Post: #1

We are currently witnessing a resurgence of right-wing sentiment here in the United States, the most prominent example of course being Donald Trump's candidacy for President. However, his is not the only right-wing movement that has been gaining momentum, another major example being the alt-right.

The majority of men on this forum I would imagine are white. For the past several decades there has been an agenda pushing manufactured "white guilt," and immigration and feminism have greatly increased the number of non-white citizens in the United States and decreased the white birthrate significantly. The Left has increasingly rammed legislation down our throats which has resulted in national decline, such as National Health Care, Title IX and gay marriage. The culture has become so toxic that it is incredibly difficult to raise a family here, and one must plan very carefully in every aspect before doing so. Under Obama's presidency in particular, race relations have deteriorated significantly, and it seems that we are not far away from some sort of racial/ethnic conflict.

What is appealing about Trump is that he is a nationalist, but he is uniting people of all races from all walks of life. No Republican candidate has done so well with black voters in years, and he is even pulling a respectable number of muslim voters in comparison to other Republican candidates. However, there are people on both sides of the political spectrum who do not want political unity between the races, and are in fact awaiting some kind of racial conflict. For people on the left, they are hoping the conflict results in the destruction of the white race, while people on the far right are hoping for the return/creation of a white national identity resulting in the expulsion/purging of the colored population.

I do not think I stand alone in my hope that this situation we find ourselves in can be solved more or less peaceably. I think Trump is our best bet at that happening, and perhaps we can overturn some of this legislation that has reduced our country to such a pitiable state. However, will this mean that eventually miscegenation laws will be restored, since it is possible that the argument for interracial relationships led to the acceptance of same-sex relationships? Will/must racial segregation return in order to return the United States to anything close to its peak?

This is a subject that hits rather close to home. I am a product of miscegenation, and though there were no laws barring it in my home state (NJ), I cannot deny that I would probably not exist if miscegenation laws had not been struck down nationwide. But did this merely pave the way for the increasing degeneracy we have seen in the last several decades? Must laws that keep people separated by race be in place to preserve the cultural and political stability of a country? If we see these laws return, what will become of people who engage in interracial relationships and the children who result from their unions?

Post: #2

Trump isn't a white supremacist or ethnonationalist like the media tries to push as propaganda. He's obviously a nationalist.

So, no.

Post: #3

The only people calling for segregation are black university students and women. Also see: "safe space".

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #4

Degeneracy isn't from race-mixing, it's from the promotion of single-mom families via welfare and incentivized divorce.

Race mixing is one of those boogeymen that isn't as big a deal as White nationalists make it out to be. Culture is far more important. Someday I will write up a big thread on the genetics of race mixing in the deep forum and why it's not a big deal.

Post: #5

In addition to the points made above, average people don't see their coworkers or neighbors of a different race engaging in the racial politicking seen by the protesters in Ferguson, at Trump rallies over the weekend, or on college campuses. Therefore, they have no reason to call for segregation or similar laws.

At work, if Jose and DeAndre do a good job and get along, there's no issues.

Post: #6

I have to call this out every time I see it, no matter what your intentions are:

The majority of this forum is white.

The majority of the US, Canada, UK and Australia, from which we draw most of our members, are white.

The fact that we are mostly white isn't significant. It would be strange if we weren't mostly white.

Post: #7

To clarify a couple of points, anyone who isn't slavishly devoted to the MSM is well aware that Trump is no racist or white supremacist. His acceptance of Ben Carson's endorsement disproves any of those notions. He believes in meritocracy above all else.

Likewise, it is clear that the forces who are most ardently (albeit indirectly) pushing for a return to segregation are people of color, particularly groups like Black Lives Matter and professional race-baiters like Al Sharpton. I don't think most white people care about another person's race so long as they get along peaceably enough. However, white people, white men in particular, have been increasingly marginalized and denigrated in society for several decades now. I fear that we are close to waking a sleeping beast, for it is often the most gentle who are the most violent when angered.

@Samseau, I hope you undertake that project soon. You might even want to post it on ROK as well, considering the fact that Roosh came out against the alt-right.

Post: #8

Yes they will, but by the left. They are the ones fanatically pushing for safe spaces and whatever bullshit.

Post: #9

(03-14-2016 07:43 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Yes they will, but by the left. They are the ones fanatically pushing for safe spaces and whatever bullshit.

There are going to be segregated, all asian girl dorms in my lifetime, but I'll have already graduated by then...

Post: #10

(03-14-2016 12:58 AM)Sweet Pea Wrote:  I have to call this out every time I see it, no matter what your intentions are:

The majority of this forum is white.

The majority of the US, Canada, UK and Australia, from which we draw most of our members, are white.

The fact that we are mostly white isn't significant. It would be strange if we weren't mostly white.

Yes but what most people are unaware of is that small-scale race-mixing does not seriously harm the White race and can actually be very beneficial, and even moderate race-mixing is either only slightly dysgenic in the short run at worst or creates a new breed of Whites with new beneficial traits altogether.

White genes are recessive, this means they cannot be removed easily through breeding as dominant genes always carry recessive genes when crossed with them.

For example, I myself look to the casual observer like any other White man, but in reality I am only 30% European because both my parents were carriers of White recessive genes even though they themselves are not of direct European ancestry.

I have found many pictures and examples to support this and plan to show it all soon, but for now I can leave everyone with another piece of info with regards to "racial purity."

Racial purity is fundamentally a Talmudic Jewish idea, Christ said to go forth and mingle with all nations but the Talmuds rejected Christ and his teachings, they refused to breed with anyone but other Jews, and the result is that over 2000 years Talmudic Jews became horribly inbred full of special genetic diseases complete with their disfigured noses and weak bodies. Thankfully for the Jews they seem to have mostly given up on the racial purity of their Jewishness as lots of them are outbreeding now, but this is an illustrative example of where "racial purity" eventually leads. It is funny how Hitler took the idea of racial purity to hate on Jews, when in fact racial purity comes from the Jews.

Anyhow there is a lot to write about on this subject, and yes I need to do the writeup soon as the race issue just gets bigger and bigger every day. I think I will have to put my Christian research on hold to get it out for this election.

Post: #11

I do not think anti-miscegenation or segregationist laws will return, but what I do think you will see is tougher laws on immigration and harsher penalties on companies that use H-1B visas and hire immigrants. If Trump is elected, you will see a kind of Pan-Americanism that you have never seen before. As an African-American, I can tell you from personal experience that while most black people do not want Trump in office, he would be the candidate that would benefit them the most with his nationalist views. A lot of immigrants can be just as racist, if not more so, than White Americans. Many of them, despite setting up shop in black neighborhoods, will hire everyone BUT blacks and all they seem to want to do is take our money. And that's fine, your business, your rules (a better job can be done on our part to support and create more black businesses) but don't shit on the very people who are the reason you are here in the first place.

Plus there is a lot of frustration with the language barrier in a lot of blue collar professions. I live in the D.C area and you can hardly go into a Home Depot without being "helped" by a person who barely knows English. I am in procurement and you don't know how aggravating this is. Not to mention the call centers for computers and credit cards are usually staffed by people who barely know English.

Post: #12

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Post: #13

(03-14-2016 09:35 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 12:58 AM)Sweet Pea Wrote:  I have to call this out every time I see it, no matter what your intentions are:

The majority of this forum is white.

The majority of the US, Canada, UK and Australia, from which we draw most of our members, are white.

The fact that we are mostly white isn't significant. It would be strange if we weren't mostly white.

Yes but what most people are unaware of is that small-scale race-mixing does not seriously harm the White race and can actually be very beneficial, and even moderate race-mixing is either only slightly dysgenic in the short run at worst or creates a new breed of Whites with new beneficial traits altogether.

White genes are recessive, this means they cannot be removed easily through breeding as dominant genes always carry recessive genes when crossed with them.

For example, I myself look to the casual observer like any other White man, but in reality I am only 30% European because both my parents were carriers of White recessive genes even though they themselves are not of direct European ancestry.

I have found many pictures and examples to support this and plan to show it all soon, but for now I can leave everyone with another piece of info with regards to "racial purity."

Racial purity is fundamentally a Talmudic Jewish idea, Christ said to go forth and mingle with all nations but the Talmuds rejected Christ and his teachings, they refused to breed with anyone but other Jews, and the result is that over 2000 years Talmudic Jews became horribly inbred full of special genetic diseases complete with their disfigured noses and weak bodies. Thankfully for the Jews they seem to have mostly given up on the racial purity of their Jewishness as lots of them are outbreeding now, but this is an illustrative example of where "racial purity" eventually leads. It is funny how Hitler took the idea of racial purity to hate on Jews, when in fact racial purity comes from the Jews.

Anyhow there is a lot to write about on this subject, and yes I need to do the writeup soon as the race issue just gets bigger and bigger every day. I think I will have to put my Christian research on hold to get it out for this election.

I'm not saying racial mixing is good, bad or neutral. It just irritates me when I see statements like that, probably because I have to see every day little barbs like "Trump's rally, which was predominately white..." No shit, what is it supposed to be? Predominately Indonesian?

Post: #14

(03-14-2016 11:48 AM)Sweet Pea Wrote:  I'm not saying racial mixing is good, bad or neutral. It just irritates me when I see statements like that, probably because I have to see every day little barbs like "Trump's rally, which was predominately white..." No shit, what is it supposed to be? Predominately Indonesian?

Call that out for what it is. Racism against Whites.

Post: #15

(03-13-2016 10:09 PM)rw95 Wrote:  However, there are people on both sides of the political spectrum who do not want political unity between the races

Where on the (Alt?) Right have you seen people who did not want political unity between the races?

(03-13-2016 10:09 PM)rw95 Wrote:  , and are in fact awaiting some kind of racial conflict.

Only because this is the only realistic scenario in which segregation would come about again. The leftist governments and brainwashing force us to hope for that. It would be much preferred to just abolish the brainwashing and forced programs.

(03-13-2016 10:09 PM)rw95 Wrote:  For people on the left, they are hoping the conflict results in the destruction of the white race,

More or less consciously, yes.

(03-13-2016 10:09 PM)rw95 Wrote:  while people on the far right are hoping for the return/creation of a white national identity resulting in the expulsion/purging of the colored population.

Since "minorities" (not for long) already (/still) have their identities, the comeback of a white identity would automatically lead to segregation. It would be a pretty voluntary process and doesn't have to involve a violent expulsion (at least in most parts of the US. Europe would require some harder measures, yes).

(03-13-2016 10:09 PM)rw95 Wrote:  However, will this mean that eventually miscegenation laws will be restored,

It would be necessary for some time, but I highly doubt this will ever again be the case.

(03-13-2016 10:09 PM)rw95 Wrote:  since it is possible that the argument for interracial relationships led to the acceptance of same-sex relationships?

Good point. Never thought of it this way, but the homo --> trans --> pedophile --> necrophile chain might in fact have started one step prior.

(03-13-2016 10:09 PM)rw95 Wrote:  Will[...] racial segregation return in order to return the United States to anything close to its peak?

Probably not.

(03-13-2016 10:09 PM)rw95 Wrote:  [...]must racial segregation return in order to return the United States to anything close to its peak?

Definitely yes.

(03-13-2016 10:09 PM)rw95 Wrote:  But did this merely pave the way for the increasing degeneracy we have seen in the last several decades?

Yes. See this slide from Ramzpaul's presentation at American Renaissance:

^"Complexity" as in complex societies. Technology is a part of it, but also having to interact on a daily basis with many different people who are unlike you. It's a constant stressor and often times works as such subconsciously. How your primitive brain experiences a multi-ethnic society can be seen here:
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1...96301.webm
and here:
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1...83447.webm

(03-13-2016 10:09 PM)rw95 Wrote:  Must laws that keep people separated by race be in place to preserve the cultural and political stability of a country?

Without a doubt. Better yet, don't have countries with multiple ethnicities.

(03-13-2016 10:09 PM)rw95 Wrote:  If we see these laws return, what will become of people who engage in interracial relationships and the children who result from their unions?

They would be frowned upon by their relatives, peers and neighbors. The mixed children would hate their parents for it, the parents wouldn't enjoy their marriage much. --> Few people would engage in this. In the process of establishing such a society, mixed people would have to choose partners from one of the ethnicities of their parents.

Post: #16

(03-14-2016 11:48 AM)Sweet Pea Wrote:  It just irritates me when I see statements like that, probably because I have to see every day little barbs like "Trump's rally, which was predominately white..." No shit, what is it supposed to be? Predominately Indonesian?

They're obviously saying that to imply he's racist, but chances are, if you went to a Clinton or Sanders rally, it too would be predominately white. Maybe not to the same degree, but the statement likely still holds. Does that make them racist too?

Post: #17

Trying to stop race mixing is a fool's folly. It will occur.

There's some cultures that are doing well with purity tests though...

Economist Wrote:Statistics on the prevalence of marriages between close relatives today are scarce. Once common practice in Western societies, estimates suggest the Middle East, along with Africa, continue to have the highest levels in the world. In Egypt, around 40% of the population marry a cousin; the last survey in Jordan, admittedly way back in 1992, found that 32% were married to a first cousin; a further 17.3% were married to more distant relatives. Rates are thought to be even higher in tribal countries such as Iraq and the Gulf states of Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Kuwait.



http://www.economist.com/news/middle-eas...-it-family