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Avowed feminist and shrill social justice warrior author of the Harry Potter series, J.K. Rowling, is presently under attack by members of the same progressive, politically correct club she thought she was a member of, all because her new book "culturally appropriates" Native American culture.

Quote:JK Rowling has been accused of appropriating the “living tradition of a marginalised people” by writing about the Navajo legend of the skinwalker in a new story.

The Harry Potter author posted the first part of a four-part series, the History of Magic in North America on her website Pottermore, on Tuesday. Subsequent episodes are being published each day at 2pm until Friday. Tying in to the release in November of the film Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, the short piece of writing deals with the magical New World in the 14th to 17th centuries.

Although the new insights into the universe of Harry Potter were welcomed by many, the author was strongly criticised online by a number of voices from Native American communities, particularly over her writing about skinwalkers, which in Navajo legend are said to be evil witches or wizards who can take on the form of animals.

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Responding to a question on Twitter, Rowling said that “in my wizarding world, there were no skinwalkers”, with the legend created by those without magic “to demonise wizards”.

But campaigner Dr Adrienne Keene told Rowling on Twitter that “it’s not ‘your’ world. It’s our (real) Native world. And skinwalker stories have context, roots, and reality … You can’t just claim and take a living tradition of a marginalised people. That’s straight up colonialism/appropriation.”

The academic also took issue with Rowling’s use of the phrase “the Native American community”, saying that “one of the largest fights in the world of representations is to recognise Native peoples and communities and cultures are diverse, complex, and vastly different from one another.”

“There is no such thing as one ‘Native American’ anything. Even in a fictional wizarding world,” wrote Keene on her blog, Native Appropriations. She continued: “Native spirituality and religions are not fantasy on the same level as wizards. These beliefs are alive, practised, and protected … we fight so hard every single day as Native peoples to be seen as contemporary, real, full, and complete human beings and to push away from the stereotypes that restrict us in stock categories of mystical-connected-to-nature-shamans or violent-savage-warriors”.

Navajo writer Brian Young wrote on Twitter that he was “broken hearted” about the new piece of writing. “JK Rowling, my beliefs are not fantasy. If ever there was a need for diversity in YA lit it is bullsh!t like this,” said Young. “My ancestors didn’t survive colonisation so you could use our culture as a convenient prop.”

Johnnie Jae, founder of A Tribe Called Geek, described herself as a Potterhead who had “often thought of what it would be like if Natives were represented in this world”, but that the reality was “so disrespectfully done”.

Jae wrote: “This isn’t us saying that Native people can’t be wizards or magical beings, but that @jk_rowling’s attempt is unacceptable & disrespectful because @jk_rowling has based her ‘native wizards’ off the same racist stereotypes & miseducation that JM Barrie used in Peter Pan.”

After she spoke out on Twitter, Keene said that she had been deluged with responses, “with the typical accusations of my oversensitivity and asking if I understand that Harry Potter is fictional, and more directed hate telling me my doctorate is being misused and I’m an idiot.

“Also worthy of note is that Rowling is known for responding directly to fan questions on Twitter, and overall being accessible to her fanbase. Despite thousands of tweets directed at her about these concerns, she has not addressed it at all. The silence is noted, and it’s deafening,” wrote Keene.

Rowling’s representatives have yet to respond to a request for comment.

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/ma...pottermore

Another example of an author's freedom of expression (to tell a fictional tale no less) ends where a group of perpetually aggrieved people's feelings begins.

Still, I do love watching SJWs attacking other SJWs in an unending cloud of manufactured outrage.

Also good to see the push-back against the useless person academic. More people are seeing the lines of the Matrix every day.

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I love the Harry Potter books, grew up reading them.

But reading this makes me go:



It's beginning to get tough to be part of a crumbling narrative.

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(03-09-2016 03:24 PM)DannyAlberta Wrote:  Avowed feminist and shrill social justice warrior author of the Harry Potter series, J.K. Rowling, is presently under attack by members of the same progressive, politically correct club she thought she was a member of, all because her new book "culturally appropriates" Native American culture.

Quote:Navajo writer Brian Young wrote on Twitter that he was “broken hearted” about the new piece of writing. “JK Rowling, my beliefs are not fantasy. If ever there was a need for diversity in YA lit it is bullsh!t like this,” said Young. “My ancestors didn’t survive colonisation so you could use our culture as a convenient prop.”

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/ma...pottermore

From the comments of the article

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^ Any writer worth his salt would also opt for the simple word heartbroken rather than the bumbling, awkward phrase "broken hearted."

Of course, his Twitter bio says he's still looking for a literary agent to buy his MS. Boy, wonder why they aren't chomping at the bit...

Anyway, Rowling -- when she started going on about how Hermione could have been black all along and called Trump "worse than Voldemort" I knew she was putting herself in the crosshairs for a future Twitter shaming. Evidently, she learned nothing from the downfalls of Joss Whedon, David Gaider, Troy Baker, and the other SJW appeasers who made the mistake of ingratiating themselves to these miscreants and were inevitably betrayed at the merest deviation from the Hivemind.

All artists and creative minds on this forum (or lurking) would do well to avoid SJW posturing in its entirety, even as a facade. I know you may think these types are easily manipulated and that you can make a buck off of them.

Don't do it.

Don't even try. Whatever money or prestige you enjoy will be a perennial hostage of their approval. The minute you stop giving them treats and morsels of social justice bromides and blandishments, they'll satisfy their hunger for outrage with your flesh.

Mark my words, one of the Star Wars cast will be the next to succumb to the Wrath of the Triggered.

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The tent (no pun intended) is getting too small for everyone that wants to be a victim.

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This is hilarious considering Rowling identifies as Pagan and the Native Americans are saying that the witchcraft of the original series isn't based on actual religious beliefs lol

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(03-09-2016 04:20 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  The tent (no pun intended) is getting too small for everyone that wants to be a victim.

Not enough room in the tepee for everyone to play Ten Little Victim Olympic Indians in a safe space.

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Maybe this Navajo dude can stop culturally appropiating Western concepts such as the alphabet and writing, pants and shirts, leather shoes, the rule of law, financial system and judicial court system.

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I'm going to just sit out of these types of discussions in life until dumb ass words phrases like "cultural appropriation" go away.

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(03-09-2016 05:07 PM)Gmac Wrote:  I'm going to just sit out of these types of discussions in life until dumb ass words phrases like "cultural appropriation" go away.

You might be waiting for quite a bit Gmac. No sign these useless people and their neologisms are going anywhere any time soon.

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All non Italians should avoid eating pasta and pizza, because they are appropriating their cuisine.

All non Americans should avoid hamburgers and hot dogs, because they are appropriating their cuisine.

All non Indians should avoid doing Yoga and practicing Kama Sutra in bed, because that is a lifestyle/sexual technique appropriation.

All non Greeks should avoid using the democratic system of government, because this is a system of government appropriation.

All non Blacks should avoid listening jazz/rap, because you encourage their current and past oppression. And it is an appropriation of their music!

All non Chinese should avoid practicing Kung Fu, because it is a fighting technique appropriation.

Etc etc.. .

Fuck...I would make such a nice SJW.

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(03-09-2016 05:08 PM)DannyAlberta Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 05:07 PM)Gmac Wrote:  I'm going to just sit out of these types of discussions in life until dumb ass words phrases like "cultural appropriation" go away.

You might be waiting for quite a bit Gmac. No sign these useless people and their neologisms are going anywhere any time soon.

Yep. 5-10 years I suppose.

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Quote:First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

This can readily be adapted to the SJWs. If any of us end up in the cross hairs, it's better to speak up and tell them to fuck off than not.

Enablers like Rowling are the reason for this mess, and most likely because she wanted to make a quick buck after her series ended just as she is now. She's getting her just deserts now.

Not to mention the term cultural appropriation makes me want to smack anyone who says it. Thankfully they won't be reproducing as they're triggered by normal relationships. Every day they grow weaker and everyday the opposition becomes stronger.

Second Trump gets elected they'll have realized they've lost and will go back to their usual pandering and acceptance approach. Too bad they'll have already fucked their reputations.

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You know if there are countless examples of people borrowing from other cultures for works of fiction.

Chief Bromden from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (How dare a white man write from a Native American's point of View).

The X-Files had multiple episodes where Native American mythology was referenced, there was even a character who was a WWII code talker.

Marvel's Red Wolf comic (Currently written by a white guy, and one who is *gasp* a conservative too.)

Hip Hop inspired comic book covers for Marvel. (I wrote about that when Reaxxion was still around).

Avatar the Last Airbender (Heavily Inspired by East Asian Culture) was created by a couple of white Americans.

Now that I think about it, it seems like it's usually Native Americans who cry cultural appropriation. I have seen a lot Asians do the same. Not get too far off-topic the state of Kimono industry in Japan is a good example of how Cultural Appropriation could save an industry.

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Navajo you say?

Post: #16

(03-09-2016 05:07 PM)Gmac Wrote:  I'm going to just sit out of these types of discussions in life until dumb ass words phrases like "cultural appropriation" go away.

I dunno man, mocking these people can be pretty fun.

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Good example of why you NEVER appease or suck up to the mob. You sell your soul and get nothing.

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I have a sudden urge to watch some bugs bunny cartoons...

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Cultural appropriation is a concept for losers.
They have no power, so they try to turn their culture into a secret clubhouse. No honkies allowed.
Any group with power is pleased to see their culture imitated.

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Isn't it wonderful how the Left is totally for globalisation except when it involves art?

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

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Irenicus Wrote:All non Greeks should avoid using the democratic system of government, because this is a system of government appropriation.

Hmmmmm, I think you might be on to something here.

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(03-10-2016 03:18 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Irenicus Wrote:All non Greeks should avoid using the democratic system of government, because this is a system of government appropriation.

Hmmmmm, I think you might be on to something here.

He might well be. Indeed the only white, Anglo-Saxon governmental system I can think of that we can congruently adopt would be, well, a patriarchal monarchy.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

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(03-09-2016 07:46 PM)metalfan20 Wrote:  Not get too far off-topic the state of Kimono industry in Japan is a good example of how Cultural Appropriation could save an industry.

As long as it doesn't lead to non-Japanese women wearing kimono in a painting, or at an art exhibit.

Quote: Created as a light summer distraction, “Kimono Wednesdays” invited visitors to “channel your inner Camille Monet” by donning museum-provided kimonos and posing for photos in front of Claude Monet’s “La Japonaise,” a painting of the artist’s wife wearing a kimono.

But the event quickly raised the hackles of protesters, who charged that the museum was perpetuating racist stereotypes by presenting Asian culture as quintessentially exotic.

At a celebration for departing MFA director Malcolm Rogers on June 24, a small group of protesters stood vigil. “This is appropriation, this is Orientalism,” read one sign...

On Tuesday afternoon, the MFA issued a statement that read in part, “We apologize for offending any visitors.” Starting Wednesday, visitors will be able to touch, but not to wear, the kimonos...

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(03-11-2016 10:11 AM)Rutting Elephant Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 07:46 PM)metalfan20 Wrote:  Not get too far off-topic the state of Kimono industry in Japan is a good example of how Cultural Appropriation could save an industry.

As long as it doesn't lead to non-Japanese women wearing kimono in a painting, or at an art exhibit.

Quote: Created as a light summer distraction, “Kimono Wednesdays” invited visitors to “channel your inner Camille Monet” by donning museum-provided kimonos and posing for photos in front of Claude Monet’s “La Japonaise,” a painting of the artist’s wife wearing a kimono.

But the event quickly raised the hackles of protesters, who charged that the museum was perpetuating racist stereotypes by presenting Asian culture as quintessentially exotic.

At a celebration for departing MFA director Malcolm Rogers on June 24, a small group of protesters stood vigil. “This is appropriation, this is Orientalism,” read one sign...

On Tuesday afternoon, the MFA issued a statement that read in part, “We apologize for offending any visitors.” Starting Wednesday, visitors will be able to touch, but not to wear, the kimonos...

Love how a similar exhibit was popular in Japan, but not here stateside. You don't hear complaints from immigrants about this cultural appropriation bullshit. It's always the people who were born and raised here.