Post: #1

I just got hit with a summons for jury duty.

Have any of ya'll ever been? I'd like to get out of it if possible.

If anyone was able to get out of it I'm all ears.

Post: #2

Jury Nullification.

Post: #3

I think this would work...

Post: #4

Depending on what district you are in, it is possible that you will NOT even need to go in.

I have been called a total of three times. Two of those times, when I checked in the day before, as per instructions, I was told that I was not needed; so I got to fulfill my obligation to jury duty for a number of years and did not need to do anything.

The closest I came was as an alternate the third time, but only had to be in court a few hours, as they had all of the jurors they needed and everyone else got dismissed.

In most districts you can delay when you have to serve, but at some point you will have to be available, and take the risk that you will be on a jury.

Most cases do not go to trial, and the ones that do a usually only a few days long, at most. Of course, there is always the chance you get stuck on something like the WaterGate trial or grand jury, and one of those proceedings went on for weeks.

Post: #5

FUCK THAT SHIT! I helped my girlfriend get off jury duty.

Like me, she has her own business and jury duty for two weeks would fuck that up properly and potentially lose customers.

My solution??

no 1 ignore the letters and phone calls, and if they call in person and ask for you, just say "oh, that person moved out months ago":. With luck they will give up and go away.

no 2 Doctors letter; if you have a reason why the trial will be traumatic to you. Past experiences, mental trauma, you are autistic etc.

no 3 at the court house, make out that you are prejudiced against the defendant in some way. "I DON"T LIKE BLACK PEOPLE", " ALL CRIMINALS ARE GUILTY" etc etc etc. they will send you home.

Fortunately, there are some people who actually want to do jury service, maybe they have an employer who will pay for their time there. So leave it to them.

Post: #6

Be very careful here.

Lying about hardships to get out of jury duty can be either contempt of court or perjury, depending on the situation.

On this forum, as Roosh has said repeatedly, we don't advocate any illegal activity or encourage anyone to do the same.

So, that needs to be made crystal clear.

Serving on a jury is a citizen's responsibility. You have to respond to a court summons. Unless you can show a legitimate hardship, other legal reason why you can't serve, or are striken off in the voir dire process, you have no right to lie your way off jury duty.

Encouraging someone to lie, dodge service, or commit contempt of court or perjury is illegal. We don't do that here.

It's no answer to say "Well, I know someone who got away with it." or "It's no big deal."

This is not the place for it.

Post: #7

”Have any of ya'll ever been? I'd like to get out of it if possible."

Is there a reason you don't want to go?
Is it that you won't be able to make rent that month or that you just don't feel like going downtown?

Post: #8

Does everyone regularly receive these jury duty notices? I received one when I was about twenty two, wrote that I was a law student on it, sent it in, then never got any other such notice from any court anywhere. As other posters have said, don't lie. A few months ago, I was picking a jury and some guy with a really Anglo name who spoke English with no accent at all, said that he was from a certain non English speaking European country, that he was adopted by an American family, and that he didn't speak or understand English very well. Everyone was looking at him like he was completely insane, but the judge excused him very easily. I think the more populated an area you live in the lesser the chance of you being actually called. In very rural areas, too many people know everyone and picking a jury is often a challenge, to say the least.

Post: #9

I went to one Jury Summons when I was 18 or 19, made it all the way to selections or the interview or whatever.

Never went to one again - I've gotten maybe 2 since then. It's been years since I've ever been called on.

Every time:



I think it'd be a thoughtful debate of why we should have full time jurors versus volunteers via summons.

Post: #10

My grandpa's strategy for getting out of jury duty was simple: When they asked him if he could be impartial to everyone, he'd respond, "of course, unless it's a nigger."

Somehow, he always got dismissed from the jury pool.

Post: #11

Many states let you show up on any day within a one or two-week window around the date of your summons. If there is flexibility like that, show up on a Thursday. Lawyers don't like starting a trial on a Thursday, so not many juries actually get seated on Thursday (Friday is not an option at most courts, but that is even better in this regard than thursday if it's available).

Post: #12

(03-08-2016 04:59 PM)Guitarman Wrote:  FUCK THAT SHIT! I helped my girlfriend get off jury duty.

Like me, she has her own business and jury duty for two weeks would fuck that up properly and potentially lose customers.

the government doesn't care about your piddly need to "make a living" and "support yourself" and "not miss rent/mortgage payments and end up homeless." i somehow get a summons almost every goddamn year, and last time the judge lectured us about how the right to trial by jury was one of the great freedoms americans fought for in the revolution. right, as if anyone in the 18th century was compelled to ride into town and abandon his farm for days to sit on a jury. if the whole process took an afternoon like it probably did back then, it wouldn't be so bad.

Post: #13

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AqK4fSMq7cE

Post: #14

Just say you're a neomasculine man and you don't like feminism, gays or trannys and they will dismiss you so fast your head will spin.

Basically they will dismiss you if they don't think you're going to be fair and impartial in any way. So you can subtly or not so subtly play on that and just tell the truth, especially depending on what you do for a living. If you're fit or a personal trainer or something say you don't like fat people. Say you hate old people driving all slow, or young people driving all fast. If you have any kind of office job, say you don't like stupid people. If you're a construction worker or anything manual labor say you don't like people who think they're so smart, like lawyers. Dismissed.

Post: #15

On a more serious note, one of the important constitutional guarantees is the right to a trial by jury as is part of the sixth Amendment.

While it can be a pain to serve, it is important. In one city, I know of a situation years ago where they were about to start a trial, but there was no jury available, so the judge sent the bailiff out onto the plaza and rounded up 12 people for the afternoon to serve as the jury. While extreme, the people were needed so the trial could go forward.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_Amen...nstitution
"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an <b> impartial jury </b> of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence."

Post: #16

I got summoned at my parent's home address last summer. I'm assuming they run off old/inaccurate data since I haven't lived there in 7 years. I went online and put in my current address which is in another county. The whole process took about thirty seconds and I was done with it.

If it had been the other way around, it would've been a crazy coincidence that I happened to be staying with my parents for an extended period of time.

Kidding aside, I think it would be an interesting experience if not too much of an inconvenience on work/obligations.

Post: #17

I did jury duty last month in NJ. Usually call in the day before to see if your selection pool is still requested. The summon is usual for two days. If you are not call for a case in those two days, you ar good for 3 years until the next summons. Jury selection for the case is usual civil or criminal case. For everyday on Jury Summons you get paid $5 by the state. Depending on the length of the case you are selected, you can get paid more. I was able to get off a civil case when I report to the judge I have schedule conflict with the trial and previous medical experience will make me bias in the case. I was dismiss and left that day. Usual the judges and lawyers for civil case will work with you to see where your stand on the case. I suggest you go and see what happen. Its annoying, but your may find yourself in position to help a someone out.

Post: #18

(03-08-2016 05:09 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  Be very careful here.

Lying about hardships to get out of jury duty can be either contempt of court or perjury, depending on the situation.

On this forum, as Roosh has said repeatedly, we don't advocate any illegal activity or encourage anyone to do the same.

So, that needs to be made crystal clear.

Serving on a jury is a citizen's responsibility. You have to respond to a court summons. Unless you can show a legitimate hardship, other legal reason why you can't serve, or are striken off in the voir dire process, you have no right to lie your way off jury duty.

Encouraging someone to lie, dodge service, or commit contempt of court or perjury is illegal. We don't do that here.

It's no answer to say "Well, I know someone who got away with it." or "It's no big deal."

This is not the place for it.

I get called at least once a year.

Not only is it a forum rule, but with the court, don't do anything that could get you into more trouble than you're already in.

This was my fathers advice:

"You're gonna have a hard time finding a jury that is sympathetic to some jackass who wound up in court trying to get out of jury duty."

Like I said, I gotta go at least once a year. I've never been picked for a trial.

The reason, I simply tell them I don't want to do it. Works every time.

Aloha!

Post: #19

I've never gotten any kind of jury duty notice in the 10+ years I've been eligible. I've moved around a lot (all over the country) and I sometimes wonder if I'm just not getting notices that are sent, and one of these days I'm going to get arrested for it at a traffic stop or some shit.

Post: #20

(03-08-2016 10:24 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 05:09 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  Be very careful here.

Lying about hardships to get out of jury duty can be either contempt of court or perjury, depending on the situation.

On this forum, as Roosh has said repeatedly, we don't advocate any illegal activity or encourage anyone to do the same.

So, that needs to be made crystal clear.

Serving on a jury is a citizen's responsibility. You have to respond to a court summons. Unless you can show a legitimate hardship, other legal reason why you can't serve, or are striken off in the voir dire process, you have no right to lie your way off jury duty.

Encouraging someone to lie, dodge service, or commit contempt of court or perjury is illegal. We don't do that here.

It's no answer to say "Well, I know someone who got away with it." or "It's no big deal."

This is not the place for it.

I get called at least once a year.

Not only is it a forum rule, but with the court, don't do anything that could get you into more trouble than you're already in.

This was my fathers advice:

"You're gonna have a hard time finding a jury that is sympathetic to some jackass who wound up in court trying to get out of jury duty."

Like I said, I gotta go at least once a year. I've never been picked for a trial.

The reason, I simply tell them I don't want to do it. Works every time.

Aloha!

Could go both ways though, Hulk is going against gawker if I was on that jury no way would he lose.

Post: #21

Intelligent people retreating from jury duty leaves important legal decisions in the hands of dolts. I can spare a day, a week, or whatever to help justice stay on track. Just read the comments on news articles about arrests and you'll gain some insight into the Pavlovian minds of your "peers" - your apathy can put them in charge of others' fate.

Post: #22

^ What chrome said.

I think the intelligent members of RVF would do society a disservice by not serving as jurors. Juries are far, far from perfect, and with a justice system that is already fairly crooked, it would be nice to have some people serving on there who would actually use their reasoning abilities to come down on the side of justice as much as possible. Maybe you'll serve on a case where false rape is a prominent possibility - you owe it to men everywhere to hear all the facts and make an informed decision, as opposed to some SJW idiot who will likely come down against the man no matter the evidence. I read about all these wrong verdicts and I actually itch to be a juror on those cases.

Post: #23

I'm sure you'll all be happy to know that I adhered to my civic duty and showed up for jury selection.

Two dumbasses decided to fight their DUI cases. I wasn't even called on. Maybe next time.

Post: #24

I served on a jury some years ago. It was actually quite enjoyable and I learnt a lot about the law and how the US legal systems work. It was also great entertainment because the defendant was dumb as a brick.

However this was at the time when I had a boring 9-5 office job and it was fucking awesome getting out of there for 2 weeks.

Post: #25

Turning up to jury duty was the correct thing to do. Jury trial is perhaps one of the most significant aspects in the development of Western Civilization. There is no greater check on the excesses of executive zeal and abuse of power. For more than 800 years, since Henry II formalised it, it has proven to be a remarkably consistent arbiter of justice and guarantor of fairness in hostile and unfamiliar surroundings for those on trial. Equity before the law is nowhere more clearly demonstrated than in the continued use of trial by jury. It would be a very grave day for the freedoms we all hold so dear (and are often very fond of moaning about the erosion of) should it be abolished. If you do not actively participate in the instruments of freedom, you can have no complaints when your freedoms are taken from you. I would encourage everyone who loves their country, and the freedoms it represents, to give of their time for jury service.