Post: #1

Looks like McDonald's in Taiwan is trying to get on the Starbucks progressivism train; needless to say, they picked the wrong nation to do it:

http://designtaxi.com/news/384846/New-Mc...r_08032016

McDonald’s Taiwan has released its third spot titled ‘Acceptance’ under its ‘More Warmth In Conversations’ campaign to mixed response from viewers.

The 90-second ad, which features a stirring coming out scene, has drawn discontent from Taiwan’s religious fundamentalists who have called for a boycott on the fast food chain.

Chang Shou-yi, secretary general of the Alliance of Taiwan Religious Groups for the Protection of Family, mentioned in a statement to the press that the Alliance disapproves of McDonald’s openly advocating same-sex behavior, especially when children make up a sizable customer base for the brand.

At present, same-sex marriage is not legal in Taiwan but there seems to be growing support for marriage equality on the island nation.

(see link for video)

Post: #2

Some businesses should just serve burgers and coffee and shut the fuck up.

Post: #3

It's a temporary setback. Of all the Asian countries Taiwan is the most LGBT friendly and I think it will most likely be the first Asian country to legalize gay marriage, even before Japan. Since around the mid 2000s I've noticed a lot of Taiwanese youth slowly becoming more and more like the ones you see in the US with the rise in tattoos, social media attention whoring and also adopting the values that come along with it such as all the LGBT virtue signaling nonsense. Taiwan's another victim of the US Hollywood cultural warfare machine.

Post: #4

I remember when the gay movement made the argument "what is done between two consenting adults is their business". Now they are pushing their movement onto children, sexualizing them and creating gender confusion. A campaign like this at a child-friendly restaurant shows that strategy. The fact that they are currently grooming children and pushing to normalize pedophilia is disturbing.

Post: #5

(03-08-2016 04:20 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  Some businesses should just serve burgers and coffee and shut the fuck up.

This x100. I'm sick and tired of these "promotions" designed to push "equality" - nobody cares. Just shut up.

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Post: #7

(03-08-2016 04:25 PM)Wutang Wrote:  It's a temporary setback. Of all the Asian countries Taiwan is the most LGBT friendly and I think it will most likely be the first Asian country to legalize gay marriage, even before Japan. Since around the mid 2000s I've noticed a lot of Taiwanese youth slowly becoming more and more like the ones you see in the US with the rise in tattoos, social media attention whoring and also adopting the values that come along with it such as all the LGBT virtue signaling nonsense. Taiwan's another victim of the US Hollywood cultural warfare machine.

This is why we fight to get our message out, even if we leave the West - even if the decline is inevitable.

It's why I freely offered my relocation thread, and it's why I freely post updates to the Poland loophole thread. Anything to help.

Post: #8

(03-08-2016 11:28 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

Post: #9

Well let's stick to the facts here. Nothing about this ad has "backfired miserably" in Taiwan. It's being shared and liked and praised. Taiwan has been the most LGBT friendly country in Asia for a while, gay marriage is going to be in the cards soon. It's still a Chinese culture though, so no, despite all the doomsday fantasizing you won't ever have tattooed gays shoving their dick in your mouth on the street while waving a rainbow flag.

Corporations in Asia love to invoke social issues to create viral tearjerker ads so that's nothing new either.

Post: #10

If two adults want to be gay, so be it. But pushing into the minds of young children is not acceptable. This is crossing the line between "acceptance" and "brainwashing".

We should define "acceptance" as accepting that an adult is different, rather than letting everyone choose which orientation they are. Homosexuality is an (accepted) disease, not a choice that we ask our kids to make.

Post: #11

One of the world's primary contributors to obesity, elevated healthcare costs, and premature deaths is trying to claim moral authority on the issue of sexual deviants. Is there nothing that can surprise me?

Post: #12

People need to calm down a bit and take things into perspective.

In Taiwan the women are still feminine with decent personalities and LGBT shit still only goes so far. Southeast asia has way more entrenched gay and ladyboy shit going on (especially Thailand and the Philippines) but even then they more or less acknowledge it as part of their culture but they don't literally worship these people.

There's a big difference in how asian culture treats these people than the west where every fag and sexual deviant is put up on a pedestal these days with protected status and showered with all sorts of social and financial rewards.

The gender, race, and LGBT conflict in the west is much different and it has to do with different groups jockeying for victim pole (heh) position in a race against each other. This is much different than asia.

Post: #13

(03-08-2016 04:25 PM)Wutang Wrote:  Of all the Asian countries Taiwan is the most LGBT friendly and I think it will most likely be the first Asian country to legalize gay marriage, even before Japan.

Japan would be near the last. This is in their constitution:

"Article 24. Marriage shall be based only on the mutual consent of both sexes and it shall be maintained through mutual cooperation with the equal rights of husband and wife as a basis."

I wish the deviants good luck getting past that.

Post: #14

I'm in a city of 20 million and although I haven't been here long, I haven't seen one gay couple. One good thing about Chinese culture-- deviance isn't tolerated like it is in the West.

Post: #15

(03-09-2016 05:08 AM)atlant Wrote:  Well let's stick to the facts here. Nothing about this ad has "backfired miserably" in Taiwan. It's being shared and liked and praised. Taiwan has been the most LGBT friendly country in Asia for a while, gay marriage is going to be in the cards soon. It's still a Chinese culture though, so no, despite all the doomsday fantasizing you won't ever have tattooed gays shoving their dick in your mouth on the street while waving a rainbow flag.

Corporations in Asia love to invoke social issues to create viral tearjerker ads so that's nothing new either.

I can confirm Atlant knows what he's talking about when it comes to Taiwan.

Post: #16

(03-09-2016 06:31 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  People need to calm down a bit and take things into perspective.

In Taiwan the women are still feminine with decent personalities and LGBT shit still only goes so far. Southeast asia has way more entrenched gay and ladyboy shit going on (especially Thailand and the Philippines) but even then they more or less acknowledge it as part of their culture but they don't literally worship these people.

There's a big difference in how asian culture treats these people than the west where every fag and sexual deviant is put up on a pedestal these days with protected status and showered with all sorts of social and financial rewards.

The gender, race, and LGBT conflict in the west is much different and it has to do with different groups jockeying for victim pole (heh) position in a race against each other. This is much different than asia.

From what I see in Taiwan I think we're starting to get to the point where LGBT gets treated the same way do in the West, as holy innocents and secular saints. It's not like the trannies in Thailand where they're just kinda there and people don't really pay any special heed to them. Taiwan really has swallowed the worst parts of American pop culture in the last decade or so and we're seeing the effects of it today. It's pretty common to see a lot of Taiwanese pop culture celebrities promoting LGBT stuff now whether it be a big name like pop singer Jolin Tsai who had a music video that featured a lesbian couple or just Youtube/social media celebrities pushing the agenda. I know my Facebook was lighting up with rainbow flags when I was taking a look a lot of the Taiwanese profiles after the Supreme Court decision on gay marriage.

And Taiwan apparently has one of the biggest gay scenes in East Asia also as well as the biggest gay pride parade. Combine that with American pop culture drilling deeper and deeper into the social fabric and you get the results we are seeing now.

Post: #17

(03-09-2016 01:57 PM)Wutang Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 06:31 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  People need to calm down a bit and take things into perspective.

In Taiwan the women are still feminine with decent personalities and LGBT shit still only goes so far. Southeast asia has way more entrenched gay and ladyboy shit going on (especially Thailand and the Philippines) but even then they more or less acknowledge it as part of their culture but they don't literally worship these people.

There's a big difference in how asian culture treats these people than the west where every fag and sexual deviant is put up on a pedestal these days with protected status and showered with all sorts of social and financial rewards.

The gender, race, and LGBT conflict in the west is much different and it has to do with different groups jockeying for victim pole (heh) position in a race against each other. This is much different than asia.

I hate to say it but in Taiwan I think we're starting to get to the point where LGBT gets treated the same way do in the West, as holy innocents and secular saints. It's not like the trannies in Thailand where they're just kinda there and people don't really pay any special heed to them. Taiwan really has swallowed the worst parts of American pop culture in the last decade or so and we're seeing the effects of it today. It's pretty common to see a lot of pop culture celebrities promoting LGBT stuff now whether it be a big name like pop singer Jolin Tsai who had a PV that featured a lesbian couple or just Youtube/social media celebrities pushing the agenda. I know my Facebook was lighting up with rainbow flags when I was taking a look a lot of the Taiwanese profiles.

A lot of ladyboys and other freakshows are celebs in Thailand too and have been for decades. However, this doesn't make them beyond reproach either.

You're missing one important aspect.

The whole race, lgbt, and gender war thing in the U.S. is a byproduct of multiculturalism. Multiculturalism is all about different and easily identifiable groups competing against each other for scarce social rewards and diminishing advantages. The more fractured society is the more hysterical and extremist the viewpoints are. The ideologies in the west want to actively redfine all aspects of masculinity.

This is not how it is in Taiwan at all.

Taiwan is still a mostly racially homogenous nation and has feminine women. It's not America by any stretch of the imagination. I have spent a lot of time in Taiwan and in different cities aside from Taipei. The culture is nowhere even close to the west when it comes to hysterical LGBT shit.

Post: #18

(03-09-2016 05:53 AM)Rawmeo Wrote:  If two adults want to be gay, so be it. But pushing into the minds of young children is not acceptable. This is crossing the line between "acceptance" and "brainwashing".

We should define "acceptance" as accepting that an adult is different, rather than letting everyone choose which orientation they are. Homosexuality is an (accepted) disease, not a choice that we ask our kids to make.

Acceptance is brainwashing on a cultural level. Accepting something you considered abhorrent a few years ago is the end result of 40 years of their message creeping its way into popular culture.

Next it will be pedophilia or incest. It will only take a few years this time since people are conditioned to accept anything...even finding self-satisfaction and moral high ground in the twisted crap they're willing to tolerate.

Post: #19

I have faith that asian society will not go the way of the west. In the west, all of our cultural decline is attributed to the defects in a mostly sound and beneficial ideology: classical liberalism and liberal humanism. These were good ideas that gave us individual rights, freedoms, and a rules-based government. The issue is that a lot of radicalism can grow out of that liberal consensus, because some of the underpinnings of the liberal consensus are things like rational skepticism and pluralism. The radical outgrowths of those underpinnings could include a constant 'progressive' doubting of the established order (hence feminism, hence micro aggressions, hence political correctness) and a healthy pluralism (live and let live) that warps into unhealthy multiculturalism (you must embrace all cultures, not just accept them) - they start at the fringe and swallow up the center in time.

Asia, by contrast, is fundamentally a social harmony, social order based conservative culture. It's in the fabric of asian nations through millenia - stick with your group, don't be a troublemaker, avoid confrontation, follow the rules. Confucianism, among other things, is still very strong. Part of it is also due to the fact that asian population density is quite large - the individual is perceived as much weaker and much smaller, because one feels like only a small atom of many, all fit into a tiny space. The "silent majority," as to borrow the infamous Nixon, probably has much stronger gravitational pull than in the west, and is thus likely to shout down any fringe radical forces that grow too loud.