Post: #26

(03-09-2016 12:39 PM)Traktor Wrote:  A portrait of Josip Broz hung above a late 1980s Philips TV alongside that of his wife. He proudly showed me his medals. It was his world. Anyway the conversation drifted towards Israel as it did and his remarks were quite sober, "We Jews have created the biggest Jewish ghetto in the world. What did we expect when we came and threw them (Palestinian Arabs) off their lands. Now we are surrounded by enemies who hate us, who want to kill us. We cannot go anywhere". He said it with the bitterness of a man of his advanced years who had seen it all. He cursed Israel, Netanyahu, its army, its institutions. The old Partizan has since passed but I do hope one day that the Palestinian people do finally get justice that they deserve and are allowed to return home.

Replace "Jews" with "Europeans" and "Ghetto" with "Gated Communities".

Regarding the bolded phrase: there's not a day I don't try and come up with a solution for how to avoid this fate. Stand against the system and you alienate yourself; few North American women will stand by such a rebel. Acquiesce to the system and your descendants will be either put into the camps, turned homosexual, or have their culture destroyed, and you'll be too callow to do anything about it.

I suppose this is why people say my blog has an apocalyptic tone.

EDIT: Dear Jewish people: do you feel any regret for what your elites did to Rhodesia and South Africa yet?

Post: #27

Aurini

(03-09-2016 06:07 PM)Aurini Wrote:  EDIT: Dear Jewish people: do you feel any regret for what your elites did to Rhodesia and South Africa yet?

I have responsibility for my own actions. Why do I need to regret about things that are not related to me in any way?
Do you regret about the crimes committed in your country years ago or by members of your nationality/race?
Why should you?

Shaming on sins of the past is a leftist tactic. It is not how you move forward.

Post: #28

(03-09-2016 06:07 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

(03-09-2016 12:39 PM)Traktor Wrote:  A portrait of Josip Broz hung above a late 1980s Philips TV alongside that of his wife. He proudly showed me his medals. It was his world. Anyway the conversation drifted towards Israel as it did and his remarks were quite sober, "We Jews have created the biggest Jewish ghetto in the world. What did we expect when we came and threw them (Palestinian Arabs) off their lands. Now we are surrounded by enemies who hate us, who want to kill us. We cannot go anywhere". He said it with the bitterness of a man of his advanced years who had seen it all. He cursed Israel, Netanyahu, its army, its institutions. The old Partizan has since passed but I do hope one day that the Palestinian people do finally get justice that they deserve and are allowed to return home.

Replace "Jews" with "Europeans" and "Ghetto" with "Gated Communities".

Regarding the bolded phrase: there's not a day I don't try and come up with a solution for how to avoid this fate. Stand against the system and you alienate yourself; few North American women will stand by such a rebel. Acquiesce to the system and your descendants will be either put into the camps, turned homosexual, or have their culture destroyed, and you'll be too callow to do anything about it.

I suppose this is why people say my blog has an apocalyptic tone.

EDIT: Dear Jewish people: do you feel any regret for what your elites did to Rhodesia and South Africa yet?

The jewish people are not an entity that acts uniformly.

When I traveled to Israel, I discovered a strongly nationalistic country that is very pro gun rights. A large percentage of people open carry.

The even bigger kicker was when I got a native Israeli to tell me that people like Soros and other monied Jewish elites in America and Europe are making the world more hostile against Israel. I polled a bunch of folks at the bar I was at this very question. Their sentiment on this was very much in agreement, there are people outside of Israel calling themselves Jews who are degenerates and are very much making the world a more hostile place for other Jews.

Israel would be smart to call out these people as dangerous fools and better yet revoke their ability to travel there to make a point.

Post: #29

More from our Israeli 'heroes'

http://www.aidwatch.ps/content/how-much-aid

Quote:Shir Hever, an Israeli economist who has spent years piecing together the murky economics of the occupation, recently published a report that makes shocking reading.

Like others, he believes international aid has allowed Israel to avoid footing the bill for its decades-old occuption. But he goes further.

His astonishing conclusion – one that may surprise Israel’s settlers – is that at least 78 per cent of humanitarian aid intended for Palestinians ends up in Israel’s coffers.

The sums involved are huge. The Palestinians under occupation are among the most aid-dependent in the world, receiving more than $2bn from the international community a year. According to Hever, donors could be directly subsidising up to a third of the occupation’s costs.

Other forms of Israeli profiteering have been identified in previous studies.

In 2013 the World Bank very conservatively estimated that the Palestinians lose at least $3.4bn a year in resources plundered by Israel.

Further, Israel’s refusal to make peace with the Palestinians, and as a consequence the rest of the region, is used to justify Washington’s annual $3bn in military aid.

Israel also uses the occupied territories as laboratories for testing weapons and surveillance systems on Palestinians – and then exports its expertise. Israel’s military and cyber industries are hugely profitable, generating many billions of dollars of income each year.

Post: #30

(03-06-2016 05:52 AM)Requiem Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 09:29 PM)Samseau Wrote:  If we go back, way way back, it was Jews living there before it was conquered by Rome then Islam.

And that's why it is ok to bulldoze the homes and livelihood of Palestinians and treat them like animals in cages?

They act like animals, they get the treatment like them. It was all a desert before the jews did arrive there. Israeli people build it up. Those arabs, nothing else Palestinians are, just a gamble. They could not live in peace with the Israelis and the term Palestinians is used by other arab countries to cast them out but use them as a weapon of tears against Israel.

What do those people with all the money they get from the EU? They buy weapons. Imagine they would build up their infrastructure, schools and so on. Do you think Israel would treat them like they treat them now? Do Israelis go on the street and just stab or shoot random people? No, those arabs do it and Israel strike back with force.
Palestinians are Arabs and like most Arabs, they are not able to build something on their own. So they saw what the Jews did with the desert and went on full rage. Its the same mentality when they invade Europa and go on full rage about us as non believers and sinners. That we all go to hell and should have more faith to Allah. We in Europe should watch close and learn how to deal with this. Israel is surrounded by enemies. And those same kind of people now storm into Europe.

Post: #31

^Since I'm at 40% warning-level thanks to this non-issue (still worth it), I'll refrain from responding to you, Parzival. You're more delusional about this matter than any Israeli Jew. I hope someone else will tell you why. Probably better anyways as I don't think I'd be able to hold back my rage on this topic and your opinions especially.
I'm out.

Post: #32

This thread is about sexual assault in the Israeli military. Any further discussion of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict or Jewish issues not related to the thread topic will be met with more suspensions.

Post: #33

(03-10-2016 12:46 PM)Requiem Wrote:  Tangential, vitriolic ranting

Post: #34

Update:

Quote:IDF Chief of Staff Gadi Eisenkot has rescinded the nomination of Brig. Gen. Ofek Buchris to command the army’s Operations Division

That was expected.
He cannot stay in a position if he is charged.

To understand the importance of this position:

Quote:The position is generally seen as a steppingstone to higher office, as the brigadier general who serves in the role manages the army’s most important missions and works closely with the IDF General Staff. Indeed, many chiefs of the general staff have served in the position, including Gabi Ashkenazi, as have many major generals who currently serve on the General Staff.

A female Israeli Parliament (KNESET) memeber came forward to support him:

Quote:“I know that it isn’t popular during these times to say that I hope Ofek is found innocent in this case,” MK Merav Ben Ari (Kulanu) wrote on Facebook this week. “I may be attacked by women’s groups over my defense, but I thought about it all weekend and I couldn’t hold back my personal opinion on Ofek.”

In a Facebook post, Ben Ari said she knew Buchris personally from her army service and he always “acted respectfully and modestly toward women.”

Recent headlines were that he will be court marshaled soon.

Post: #35

Update from 2 weeks ago:

Quote:the IDF's top lawyer held a pre-indictment hearing with him and his lawyer

Having a hearing is not mandatory under the military law.

Quote:At a hearing of only a few hours, Halperin (Defence lawyer) requested to present additional evidence to IDF Military Advocate General Brig. Gen. Sharon Afek on Wednesday and to continue the hearing and Afek agreed to the request.

The general assessment is that he is going to trial, and chances are that he will be found guilty. The conviction rate in Israel (not military courts) is over 90%. The prosecution does not like to go to court without strong evidence.

Quote:That new evidence reportedly included objective circumstantial evidence tending to confirm at least one of the five incidents of rape which Buchris is accused of.

One down, four to go?

It is still not over, and no new reports

Post: #36

Damn!

I had a gut feeling that ever since certain Canadian feminists from Toronto flocked to Israel a few months ago, that the feminist hysteria would have reached hysterical proportions in a country where the community is tightly knit (which means that false accusations and man-hating would be frowned upon in Israel because it can destabilize their society).

The anglophone neo-victorian feminism appears to have infected Israel too! Strange!

Post: #37

(07-08-2016 05:25 PM)RBerkley Wrote:  Damn!

I had a gut feeling that ever since certain Canadian feminists from Toronto flocked to Israel a few months ago, that the feminist hysteria would have reached hysterical proportions in a country where the community is tightly knit (which means that false accusations and man-hating would be frowned upon in Israel because it can destabilize their society).

The anglophone neo-victorian feminism appears to have infected Israel too! Strange!

Dude, the infection started long ago.



My army buddy once hooked up with some American cunt (who was also in the military), and they fucked. Next morning, she regretted it (and add some pressure from her BF, whom she cheated), and called the Metzah (MP).



I think he was not charged in the end.

Post: #38

I think it's important to remember how Isreal was established re The Balfour Declaration.

Most people think the Jews were given Israel by the British after the holocaust in WW2. This however is not true. The Balfour Declaration was signed after WW2.

Though it could be just another Jewish conspiracy theory, the story makes a lot of sense and seems to me best explanation for event. It goes like this. Around the turn of the century the Jews in Germany were doing quite well, examples being the likes of Rothschilds, Enstein and Wittgenstein. I don't think there was too much persecution against them and it would infact seem like they had some kind of golden age in Germany. I am not sure but it could be that Zionists had dreams of having a state of their own, the Protocals of the Elders of Zion (not sure if this is a hoax though) mentions this could be in either South America or Israel.

It would seem they would get their opportunity in WW1. As the war had reached a sort of stalemate in Europe, the Zionists made some kind of deal with the Brits whereby they would use their influence in America to get American involvement on the British side. In return Britain would sign over Palestine to the Zionists. It looks like this is what happened

Quote:In this critical situation it was believed that Jewish sympathy or the reverse would make a substantial difference one way or the other to the Allied cause. In particular Jewish sympathy would confirm the support of American Jewry, and would make it more difficult for Germany to reduce her military commitments and improve her economic position on the eastern front... The Zionist leaders gave us a definite promise that, if the Allies committed themselves to giving facilities for the establishment of a national home for the Jews in Palestine, they would do their best to rally Jewish sentiment and support throughout the world to the Allied cause. They kept their word.[51]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_De...orld_War_I

It just feels very dark the way Israel was created, with the use of Jewish propaganda against Germany, and the German loss in the War. Most of these Zionists had German backgrounds and many people consider it a sort of stab-in-the-back.

It's strange how the media portrays Hitler as some kind of crazy racist white-supremacist, and maybe he was just that. But we never learn WHY he distrusted the Jews. It's just "Hitler was mad. End of story". It doesn't make sense. There must have been some reason why Hitler (and most of Germany) had anti-semitic views at the time.

If the above is just a "conspiracy theory" then what else could explain
1. American involvement in the War
2. The Balfour Declaration

Also, Palestine was promised to the Arab league by the British and they were not happy about it given to the Zionists. In International Relations, you dont go against your word like that because "them jews are nice people lets give Palestine".

As much as I am no fan of the Arabs and Palestinians, I dont think I could ever take Israel seriously as a state. It is a massive source of trouble, a huge embarrassment to Jews everywhere. I just hope they can live in peace because any kind of percieved injustice against the Palestinians can easily lead to more Islamic violence in the West, and we are pretty close to an abyss as it is.

People in West, America and Europe need to remember the price payed by Germany, by Europe (would WW2 have happened otherwise) and by the world, and the cost we are still paying, just so the Jews can live in their "Promised Land".

Although the narrative above doesn't come from 'official' sources, so it may be inaccurate. I would be interested in The Male Brain's version of events, as it may reflect the opinion of Israelis.

Given the above, I would advise against Goyim looking at Israel as some kind of example.

Post: #39

3-day suspension to Atheistani for again derailing thread. To reiterate:

(03-10-2016 03:10 PM)Soma Wrote:  This thread is about sexual assault in the Israeli military. Any further discussion of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict or Jewish issues not related to the thread topic will be met with more suspensions.

Post: #40

(07-08-2016 05:25 PM)RBerkley Wrote:  Damn!

I had a gut feeling that ever since certain Canadian feminists from Toronto flocked to Israel a few months ago, that the feminist hysteria would have reached hysterical proportions in a country where the community is tightly knit (which means that false accusations and man-hating would be frowned upon in Israel because it can destabilize their society).

The anglophone neo-victorian feminism appears to have infected Israel too! Strange!

I think it's the other way around, if you try to scratch the surface and look into the roots of radical western feminism.

Post: #41

(07-08-2016 08:31 PM)911 Wrote:  

(07-08-2016 05:25 PM)RBerkley Wrote:  Damn!

I had a gut feeling that ever since certain Canadian feminists from Toronto flocked to Israel a few months ago, that the feminist hysteria would have reached hysterical proportions in a country where the community is tightly knit (which means that false accusations and man-hating would be frowned upon in Israel because it can destabilize their society).

The anglophone neo-victorian feminism appears to have infected Israel too! Strange!

I think it's the other way around, if you try to scratch the surface and look into the roots of radical western feminism.

Dude
Radical feminism never started in Israel. We were late to adopt it.
And a big YES - The anglophone neo-victorian feminism has infected Israel too. It is a few years behind the anglosphere but it is getting there.

Post: #42

Update:

He is now former Brigadier General.
One potential reason for his retirement is pension. If he is found guilty, he will lose his rank and pension privileges.

Also possible, is the moral responsibility:

Quote:"I believe the excepted norm, from an officer of my rank, is to retire from service and to deal with the allegations in the only proper place, the court," Buchris said.

The funny thing is that the other side layers think so too:

Quote:"Without connection to the results of the criminal proceeding," Flanter said, Buchris should be given credit for taking the step.

Win-Win.

The trial is startibg, and it seems that the Buchris has changed his version.
He now says that he has kissed one of the prosecutors, but it was not against her will.

Not a good sign, when you change your version.

Post: #43

Update

Quote:Former Brig. Gen. Ofek Buchris confessed to some of the charges  and apologized for them in a statement issued Thursday.
The apology was made as part of a plea bargain stipulating that he would admit to having a sexual relationship with a soldier and will be charged with forbidden sexual relations by consent. The rape charges will be erased and he won’t be imprisoned.

Note that the website is a leftist one, so the tone is a little bit "against him".

In other news, SJWs are furious:

Quote:The strong denials of Buchris have been revealed as nonsense, and here the revered officer admitted to past serious sexual offenses against his junior officers,” said Orit Sulitzeanu, chairwoman of the Association for Rape Crisis Centers in Israel.
...
She added: “It is unclear why the rape charge was removed and why it was decided to devise a plea deal that constitutes a slap in the face to the brave women who dared to complain.”
...
MK Ayelet Nahmias-Verbin (Zionist Union), who spoke about having been sexually harassed in the past in a TV interview earlier this year, said that some workplaces are a “battlefield” for women.

“Like in a battle, with sexual violence we must fight hard in order to deter future harassers,” she stated. “Forgiving punishments, as in the case of Ofek Buchris, harms the victims and legitimizes the future harassers and assaulters.

My guess is that even if he was acquitted, they would still be at his throat.
BTW - the rape charge was cleared because (just guessing) there was no evidence of rape, or (heaven forbids) it might have not even happened.
As for the MK, it seems that women who were offended now want to punish everyone, believing that punishment deters potential harassers. Guess that she did not hear the word that punishment does not deter criminals.

I believe (and it is only a belief) that he probably messed around with his subordinates. It usually worked well, until it did not.
As a smart guy, he probably did not rape, but was aggressive.