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Going to be in SE Asia from Mid-July til October (when I meet my Oz friends in Bali/ Kuta).

SE Asia =equals= Mission 'Get good at Game'
Apart from necessary down time and relaxation I wanna use my trip to improve my skills at approaching, comfort and seduc tion.

Came across ebooks on voice, body language etc.

=== Especially wanna trial Gunwitch's Dynamic Sex life which has an approaching programme approaching 250 targets in batches of 25 focusing on one component like Relaxation of outcome, Persistence, Tone of voice, Eye contact, Rapport etc. I wanna combine that with Love Systems Routines manuals I and II. ==

One of my mentors, Carlos Xuma, said that 'anything will work, so long as you actually invest the time to do it.' That's the philosophy here.

I don't like smart phones/ the internet so apart from a bit of pipelining in advance I'm going to stick to face to face approaching/ brick phones.

The holy Grail here is young - late teens, early 20's - Fit, bikini clad western girls, especially the back packer type. I didn't get the chance to sarge them back in my 20's and altho I'm 41 now I am very much in the mood to prove that age is just a number.

I do have a bit of hang up about my age going into pick up with girls around 18+ who I find can be a bit snooty anyway (and doing so as a lone wolf into the bargain).

My plan is to fly into Bangkok at the start as- I love Thailand, want to get fitted at a tailors, want to explore Laos etc.

From there I want to game the local Asian talent to gain some momentum as I think its easier gaming asian girls as a 6'4" blonde Brit.
Pros are not an option. I find that avenue just saps confidence.

No point in trying my routines/ approaches on girls who can't speak much English though, so I want to hop over to the Philippines.

Work my 250 approaches (500/ 600 approaches? ) on local girls there before I take my freight train momentum back to Thailand/ Vietnam etc and aim at the tourist chicas that abound in Thai-Laos-Vietnam-Malaysia etc.

My questions are:

Where in the Philippines is the best place to sarge? I'm not a huge fan of big cities like Metro Manila would be, I see places like Cebu and Cayagan de Oro mentioned.
Are there places that are sarged out compared to places that are
happy hunting territory?

I've also seen Jakarta mentioned a lot.
Two things there.. one is that whilst I have cash I want to save money. I'm less into renting apartments and going to high end clubs (altho I might do it a bit) and more of a beachcomber. Is Jakarta better for high end gaming lifestyle only?

How is the English language fluency there compared to the Philippines?

I think my 'practice on the ones you don't care about' to gain momentum approach is a good one and having the luxury of going across to the Philippines to do so is more than convenient, but I'd be interested in others' thoughts on this strategy.

Any insights on gaming firm young western stuck up rich little daddy's girls *(we all have our tastes - they just happen to be mine..) greatly appreciated.

I'd also be grateful for -absolutely any- two cents of knowledge/ insights that occur to you when reading this.

I've got an opportunity here, plenty of flexibility as well and I want to make use of it.

A little about me. Used to sarge in London back in the day, part of a "PUA collective" that had a bit of success. I'd say as a PUA I rate 5, 6 out of 10 in terms of ability. Hence the wish to strip my game down, polish it and put it back together.
I found that just working on something like the 3 second rule and ploughing it has brought amazing results.
Before I came across game I was an AFC in my 20's and early 30's on backpacking holidays thru the likes of Thai-Indonesia etc. with a pair of blue balls.
Speaking of Blue, my red pill-blue pill PUA awakening came in my mid-30's and just as I was hitting my stride I was also hit by a near death experience that lost me my job, my income, my flat, any women and/or fair weather friends I might have had - so that in effect I lost four good years of my life, =instead= I got a load of major injuries, a bout of being medically vulnerable homeless living on the streets and a major battle to put my life back together. In the long run thats worked out though.
I'm a funny mix of good looking, lived a bit, insecure, social, confident, loner, white knight interests/ totally unreconstructed c**t attitudes etc. I spend a lot of time doing physio work and staying in shape as well as writing and art work (hours a day on each) .
I write that not to sound like an internet dating ad but rather not to sound like a whiner when someone suggests living in a big city's bar district and spending 6 hours every day sarging women in said bars. That on its own and nothing else would send me mad. Living in a big city like Bangkok for a long time would send me nuts as well.

Thanks for any/ all insights and advice. Also let me know if you're around those dates and want to join forces.

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By the way, can anyone explain why the f":k it says 'male feminist' next to my name? >:\

Post: #3

You should try the Real Social Dynamics forum. I think you're going to find more people there who share your same style of game.

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Thanks. I'll give that a shot.
Most of what I've learnt though in terms of travel destinations I've learnt from this forum.
That's the reason why I'm interested to hear what people on here have to say.

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(03-04-2016 07:22 PM)Adv8nturous Wrote:  By the way, can anyone explain why the f":k it says 'male feminist' next to my name? >:\

Male Feminist is your "rank" or "status" based on post count. It basically means "noob" and it will change as your post count increases.

Post: #6

(03-04-2016 07:05 PM)Adv8nturous Wrote:  I didn't get the chance to sarge them back in my 20's

My turn... what does "sarge" mean?

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Thanks for that Ghost Tiger.

'Sarge' I think comes from the name of Ross Jeffries' dog. Ross Jeffries was one of the original seduction community gurus. I think Will Ferrell's character in The Wedding Crashers was based on him.

Supposedly he took his dog with him when he went to pick up women, dunno if that's true. But for mystery and other pua's 'Sarge' is slang for gaming chicks.

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(03-04-2016 08:16 PM)Adv8nturous Wrote:  Thanks for that Ghost Tiger.

'Sarge' I think comes from the name of Ross Jeffries' dog. Ross Jeffries was one of the original seduction community gurus. I think Will Ferrell's character in The Wedding Crashers was based on him.

Supposedly he took his dog with him when he went to pick up women, dunno if that's true. But for mystery and other pua's 'Sarge' is slang for gaming chicks.

Oh OK... thanks. But Will Ferrell wasn't in Wedding Crashers. It was Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson. But never mind. I think I get it. Have fun sarging in SE Asia.

Cheers

Post: #9

Thanks pal

Here's the link to Will or 'Chas' in The Wedding Crashers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bBe7EwydgA

Post: #10

(03-04-2016 08:31 PM)Adv8nturous Wrote:  Thanks pal

Here's the link to Will or 'Chas' in The Wedding Crashers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bBe7EwydgA

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooh yeah... forgot all about that scene. Thanks for the laughs!

Post: #11

Since you are targeting girls with 20+ year age gap, what's your strategy?
How do you look for your age? I would lie about it

Post: #12

"Sarging" ... I hate that word

Post: #13

I've met 100+ RVF guys all over the world with varying levels of game (remember the Dry Spell In Wet Season Guy?) and have never heard any of them use the term sarge, I'd be tempted to get up and walk away if one did and I'm a pretty patient guy.

OP, as a 6'4 blond Brit, your physical presence alone is enough to get what you want, forget all of the PUA jargon and techniques, most of that stuff was invented for gaming western women and won't do you any favours in SE Asia, as you'll find out if you try to neg any women there. I can almost guarantee you that if you go to a shopping mall in a city like Cebu and hand out pieces of paper with your name and contact info on it to a few girls and say nothing more than "you're cute, call me", you'll have more success than any of that western focused PUA stuff that you wrote about in your first post.

Also, get a fucking smart phone, even if its a $30 junk one, do it, all of the girls use Whatsapp/Viber/line and you will be at a serious disadvantage without one. A poor girl in a 3rd world shit hole won't think "wow he's cool, he doesn't like smart phones and prefers in person interaction", she'll think "Why the fuck doesn't this stingy Brit not have a fucking half decent phone". I'm sure that you're aware of the DHV concept.

Post: #14

I use the term 'sarge.'

Post: #15

Alright gents, the term formerly known as sarging is no longer in use by me.. Gaming rules the day.

Westsideloser, dunno really I do pretty well. One thing I DON'T do is play up the age gap. I both score with and get blown out by a lot of younger women.
They tend to believe I'm in my 20's and the ones that I get serious with tell me they don't mind when I later tell them my real age.
One approach is when they ask me my age I say 'guess' They usually come up with 27 and I smile and say 'that's a GooD guess' (don't say if its a correct guess though )
Tbh though I'd rather just tell the truth than worry about hiding my passport.
In terms of looks I do alright.. I walked in to Elite modelling agency in London when I was 34, fulling of crying teenaged girls being consoled by their families and being told to fuck off by the casting agents, and straight away the casting agents said they'd work with me. Look a bit rougher now but I scrub up okay.
A gay guy once told me that in the gay scene (with its obsession with youthful little twinks) the saying is 'the young like muscles' and I've found that to be the case. Younger girls are more easily won over by looks and less concerned -or should I say knowledgeable- about assets, industry standing etc.

Scotian, fair do's I'll get a smart phone then.

In terms of the western style 'game' negs etc. the SE Asian girls are a fun prelude to the real targets, the "young - late teens, early 20's - Fit, bikini clad western girls, especially the back packer type" that I mentioned above. The routines, snapped in, should stand me in good stead with them.
I believe that polishing things like body language, speech etc. will improve my game with Asian girls and Western girls both.

Thanks for the advice pal.Would you recommend Cebu city over anywhere else in the Philippines?

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(03-04-2016 07:22 PM)Adv8nturous Wrote:  By the way, can anyone explain why the f":k it says 'male feminist' next to my name? >:\

We've been here before.

Post: #17

You can go up to random girls in the mall and take their hand and spin them around to face you.

Then you ask to read their palm.

If they say no then proceed to neg them with "Asian girls don't like palm reads?" and then ask them "what does pork fried rice tastes like?" Kino their upper arm and touch their lower back repeatedly. If they resist just escalate.

When random local guys (BETAS!) come near amog them mercilously with negs and shove them aside. If you see some guy sitting with his girl game her too.


Good luck.

Post: #18

Good luck on the SE Asia adventure. I just got back from Thailand and you're in for a good vacation with that kind of quantity of approaches. Here's a guide to pretty much everything you need to know about the sarging the Philippines:

Do the Philippines: How to Make Love with Filipino Girls in the Philippines by Matt Forney

amzn.to/1VYqOvW

Post: #19

Sarging

I don't know about the rest of you guys but I hate that damn word.

Post: #20

That type of game does not work on Asians. Also there is a language barrier so even if it did work they probably still won't understand it. Even if they speak good english they still do not know American lingo or sarcasm.

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(03-05-2016 06:13 PM)Shimmy Wrote:  That type of game does not work on Asians. Also there is a language barrier so even if it did work they probably still won't understand it. Even if they speak good english they still do not know American lingo or sarcasm.

So how do you suggest adjusting game for SE Asia?
My idea is play alpha with some beta tendencies, minimal kino in public, try to isolate for make-out, and then the obvious pull to hotel. Though I don't have much experience.



Adv8nturous, try to stop by Hoi An in Vietnam first to hit up the tailors. I can assure you that they'd be better/cheaper than in Thailand. My very customised suit with 3 shirts came to 200 USD and I wasn't bothered bargaining.

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OP, you might be disappointed in the quality of Western female backpackers roaming SEA... I mean, do not expect meeting Jessica Alba in a hostel in Cambodia...

But you won't be disappointed in local Asian women's prettiness, so, go for it... the Phils obviously seem the place to be for you, or BKK, or Saigon.

Post: #23

I'll make a note of Hoi An. Thanks Mr sloth.

In terms of game in SE Asia it's interesting...

I've read a lot of other posts where people say that the High Society / High End Bangkok ladies are pretty much out of bounds but then they have seen some farangs with seriously tight game having success.

I think I've already said that the plan is to tighten my own game. So their might have been some confusion here. I haven't been arguing about whether western style game is necessary in SE asian girls or not. Just I'm looking to practice somewhere easy before moving onto my target audience.
A lot of that comes down to keeping an alpha frame and my self discipline no matter what; things like tone of voice, posture can be focused on even if language barrier is proving a struggle.
If you're really keen on this shit you can even suck through a straw whilst doing a ton of press ups in an alley and then emerge and approach straight away - just to get that light headed, sweaty palm feeling that our own type hot girl 9s and 10s can bring on.
To be honest, hell, I could run through those drills in outer mongolia opening squat middle aged farmers wives and I reckon, just focusing on my own actions, I'd see a ton of improvement.

In the case of doing that in the presence of young attractive live female strangers - thats a bonus. Drilling like that and focusing on non verbal cues will bring results. I reckon..
Doesn't matter if some patterns don't translate at the time. Drilling them will have helped when I eventually come across my target young bikini Western audience just a bus ride away..

Post: #24

Thanks for the encouragement going strong, last time in SEA plenty of those backpacking chicks were smoking hot..

A few fat friends but.. :/

Post: #25

Scotian probably gave some of the best advice I've seen on this forum regarding a smart phone. Good job.