Post: #1

A group of students at Cornell formed a group to combat anti-White bias.

Quote:A group of anonymous students titling themselves the “Union of White Students at Cornell” penned an open letter to the Cornell community, saying the group aims to “preserve and advance their race.”

In the letter, the group claims it is comprised of over 100 undergraduate, graduate and doctoral students who have been meeting covertly to “avoid character assassinations of the press and the Black Lives Matter extremist groups.”

“The rhetoric in mainstream media and even our own higher academia has proven to be toxic and divisive attempting to undermine the efforts of the white race and even promote shaming and self-guilt,” the letter proclaims. “We are a community that attempts to recognize the many accomplishments of the white race and preserve our heritage.”

[...]

“We have observed this here at Cornell and are ashamed at the response of the University to placate these delusional minority groups on-campus honoring their demands,” the letter says.

[...]

Speaking on their goals in creating the group, the Union of White Cornell Students said they plan to continue to unite white students at Cornell and act to counter the “nonsensical” demands of minority groups on campus.

It seems like this group is not a joke-- they have a facebook page. Small number of "likes" of course-- being associated at all with this would ruin a student's reputation.

We had to know this was coming. The Black Lives matter protests, safe space nonsense, and general hostility on college campuses sparked a pushback. What a time we're living in.

Edit-- relevant:

Post: #2

Man, frankly, I think such groups are stupid.

That said, with all the even stupider hysteria that originated it, I'm not surprised.

Segregation and separation are useless in the long run, people have got to unite and stop letting melanin run their world views.

Post: #3

A group of 100 students that has managed to organize yet stay "anonymous?" Yeah, ok. Possible, but I'd posit it's 10 times more likely to be another race hoax by some black student(s). Doesn't take 100 people to write a letter and create a Facebook group.

Post: #4

Ah the level on conniptions going on over in that part of new york must be enough to power that entire city.

Post: #5

So much divisive race baiting, its sad really.

I tend to agree that the white race should have the right to unite for their common interests and build that same brotherhood that other racial groups have, but it ought to be done in a better way than this.

Post: #6

(03-04-2016 01:20 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Man, frankly, I think such groups are stupid.

They are, however, an inevitable result of generalized racial agitation like BLM.

Post: #7

(03-04-2016 01:45 PM)Silver_Tube Wrote:  I tend to agree that the white race should have the right to unite for their common interests and build that same brotherhood that other racial groups have, but it ought to be done in a better way than this.

it ought to be done in a better way than this: in which way, please tell?: if you have some good ideas, do detail them...

Post: #8

The parts that stick out are “preserve and advance their race.” and 'to counter the “nonsensical” demands of minority groups.'

Its this anger driven race-baity crap that draws in all this needless opposition. You are inviting protests and doxxing when you come from a place like that. You are destroying your own credibility, if you have that kind of talk in your group's founding everyone will dismiss you as a hate group right from the start. It's the wrong approach.

Post: #9

(03-04-2016 01:36 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  A group of 100 students that has managed to organize yet stay "anonymous?" Yeah, ok. Possible, but I'd posit it's 10 times more likely to be another race hoax by some black student(s). Doesn't take 100 people to write a letter and create a Facebook group.

Yeah, while I agree with their point that whites get shit on by snotty millenials these days, the phrasing in that letter seems carefully written to try and cause a hysterical reaction. They hit the alt-right talking points and then add bits like "undermine the efforts of the white race" to make sure it's regarded as racist by anyone reading it.

Also, any group like this would be foolish to make their presence known, since they can no longer recruit anymore without the risk of being infiltrated by an SJW quisling.

All in all it's a better troll job than the Mizzou "Revenge of the Turd Reich" episode, although that one showed that you don't actually need to bother with subtlety.

Post: #10

This isn't a new phenomenon:
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^Very good and fair interview.




^Very good answers by Matt, but not a fair interview. Most guys here sound like this moderator.

Most of the responses here are belittling, ridiculing or criticizing.
What's your deal? There are many different race groups on campuses except when Whites do it, it's allegedly "hate". These comments are frustrating to read, I have to say.

Quote:people have got to unite and stop letting melanin run their world views.

Not sure if serious or just ignorant, but you certainly sound like Kasich. It's obviously about much much more than just skin color. White is a term that's used a lot by proponents and opponents but that's just a simplification. It is supposed to mean European. Obviously it's not about the amount of melanin. People always try to portrait such groups as stupid nonsensical bigots who don't have any basis for their actions. Do you know why they seem to have no basis? Because you guys are not willing to acknowledge their reasons and ignorantly reduce every bit of their efforts to being driven by skin color and hate. What nonsense.

Quote:but it ought to be done in a better way than this.

1) What's so bad about this way?
2) what Going Strong wrote

Quote: The parts that stick out are “preserve and advance their race.” and 'to counter the “nonsensical” demands of minority groups.'

Its this anger driven race-baity crap that draws in all this needless opposition. You are inviting protests and doxxing when you come from a place like that. You are destroying your own credibility, if you have that kind of talk in your group's founding everyone will dismiss you as a hate group right from the start. It's the wrong approach.

1) What anger? Which parts of their statements indicate that?
2) What place? Anger? See 1). Maybe anger for being accused of all kinds of evil shit while getting eradicated from the face of the earth. - Justified? I'd say yes.
3) What kind of talk? Their WHOLE AIM is to preserve the white race. What purpose would the group serve if they didn't state that plainly?
4) Yeah, EVERYone is dismissing them as a hate group. Including, apparently, most guys on this forum. Why though? I want reasons, quotes.
5) What Going Strong said.


Writing this, I really feel like the first guy who figured out the logical mechanisms that work in game and who now has to explain them to someone whose mom told him all his life "just be yourself and be nice to the girl and you'll find the loyal princess of your dreams". Game is a natural thing and men unknowingly used game for generations but then it got lost through Cultural Marxism and so it had to be analyzed and taught again. Same thing with race. Sorry to tell you, but it is a fundamental human trait to see race and has been like this since the first humans were around. It was a means of survival and as such has been engraved into our brains. The ones who weren't vigilant around those whose behavior and looks were different than their own tribe's were the ones who had to leave this earth early. You can tell yourselves over and over again that you don't see it and that seeing it would be bad, but you do and it's not. It is not based on hate for others, it is based on love for yourselves and it is admittedly maybe also a little about suspicion of others, which is only natural. People seem to have a really hard time swallowing this pill but I'll walk you through it if needed.
All of this doesn't mean that we also have to hit each others over the head with a stick like in the old times. Peaceful separation is the way. Separated but equal. Separated but working together for the betterment of humanity. But, yes, separated. Not a forced separation - but also not a forced mixing. If you let people do what they want, they will naturally separate by heritage and race. You can see it all the time.

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/

Post: #11

The reason people are derisive here is because they aren't employing good strategy. Think about it this way, say black lives matter tried their shtick in the 60s. It wouldn't have worked: as a bunch of whiny college kids they'd just get fire hoses and german shepherd bites for their trouble, and no one would sympathize because of their shrill delivery. Black lives matter is only effective now when most whites are anti-racists themselves and will allow that shit to be spoon-fed to them.

Post: #12

Part of the upside of being white is you don't have to kick up a fuss about this and that , you just get on with it. Any club you form is filled with cool dudes, not some dragnet that lets in a big group of people who may be mostly losers but you don't get to qualify because they are "one of you"

Post: #13

Cornell is in Ithaca, for you non-New Yorkers, that's the bluest and most liberal part of NY state outside of New York Metropolitan Area(NYC, Long Island, and the lower Hudson Valley) I've been visited friends on-campaus and daygamed on and off-campus. Based off my interactions with students and townies there, that group won't gain much traction.

Assuming this is real, as an indifferent third party, I'm unsure how much change they can effect by remaining anonymous: They can't hold rallies or any events. They cannot change any of the "anti-White" policies on campus with an e-mail or Facebook post; they'd have to try to recruit high-ranking admins and faculty which would necessitate members revealing themselves.

Post: #14

(03-04-2016 01:20 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Man, frankly, I think such groups are stupid.

That said, with all the even stupider hysteria that originated it, I'm not surprised.

Segregation and separation are useless in the long run, people have got to unite and stop letting melanin run their world views.

It's really human nature.

All this racial agitation is what is natural when you force different people and different cultures to live side by side and compete for the same resources.

The idea that people can just set aside these innate tribal instincts and work together is flawed. People can certainly assimilate to some degree but when you have large in group/out group dynamics then people will just naturally balkanize into self interested sub groups and work against each other.

Everything that we see in the anglosphere is just an experiment.

No one else around the world really believes in this multicultural stuff. You see some previously homogenous European nations foolishly buying into it to their own detriment.

There's enough evidence now that this multicultural stuff just simply doesn't work.

Post: #15

Which was exactly what I said in the following sentence...

(03-04-2016 02:10 PM)Blaster Wrote:  

(03-04-2016 01:20 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Man, frankly, I think such groups are stupid.

They are, however, an inevitable result of generalized racial agitation like BLM.

Post: #16

Oh you misunderstood. I don't believe in multiculturalism. In multiculturalism you have all these different flavors and yet they never mix, this is bound to cause trouble.

The so-called melting pot would be a more adequate way of promoting integration. I don't believe integration is impossible. Is it somewhat hard? Yes.

The problem however are not the hardships of integration but rather the constant, permanent barriers raised by all sorts of groups that end up fostering segregation even more.

Though in a way I am "biased". Some countries have different ways of integrating and other countries do not know how to integrate at all. The anglo-saxon tradition is more towards a "tolerant" segregationist method. Portuguese tend to be INTOLERANT inclusiveness. I extend this to myself, too.

In this particular case the Indian example might be used. British India had the tolerant segregation. The Indians could keep their castes and the British caste would rule above.

Portuguese India was marked by forbidding the castes and the institution of Christianity, we have a "horror" of difference, and hate even more those who self segregate and refuse to be assimilated, such as the gypsies.

I would not go to the length of using the lazy "human nature" debate. The vast majority of the world's countries do not know how to integrate, no country can claim full mastery of such a thing. But if we are to improve and move past these issues it's not something one can sleep on.

It's an undoubtedly complex phenomenon, and the world is not sufficiently civilized for it to advance, not to mention the usual deterrents for it's improvement.

(03-04-2016 10:26 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(03-04-2016 01:20 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Man, frankly, I think such groups are stupid.

That said, with all the even stupider hysteria that originated it, I'm not surprised.

Segregation and separation are useless in the long run, people have got to unite and stop letting melanin run their world views.

It's really human nature.

All this racial agitation is what is natural when you force different people and different cultures to live side by side and compete for the same resources.

The idea that people can just set aside these innate tribal instincts and work together is flawed. People can certainly assimilate to some degree but when you have large in group/out group dynamics then people will just naturally balkanize into self interested sub groups and work against each other.

Everything that we see in the anglosphere is just an experiment.

No one else around the world really believes in this multicultural stuff. You see some previously homogenous European nations foolishly buying into it to their own detriment.

There's enough evidence now that this multicultural stuff just simply doesn't work.

Post: #17

You can only have a specific group if you're a media darling.

Black student union - a great way for kids of shared experience to come together.
White student union - racists who should be attacked on campus and expelled.

Students for Democrats - loving and trying to make the world a better place.
Students for Republicans (or even Libertarians) - racists, misogynists, homophobes, religious morons.

Women's only club - empowering womyn to bravely fight the evil patriarchy.
Men's only club - the evil patriarchy.

The list goes on.

Post: #18

If this is trolling, it is excellent trolling.

Post: #19

(03-04-2016 01:20 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Man, frankly, I think such groups are stupid.

That said, with all the even stupider hysteria that originated it, I'm not surprised.

Segregation and separation are useless in the long run, people have got to unite and stop letting melanin run their world views.

I agree with the above, because the anti-straight-white-male part of SJW socialism is a red herring.

It's not about anti-straight-white-male, it's about anti-success.

Straight white males are simply the canary in the coal mine, due to the apex fallacy.

And, as folks like Roosh, Milo, and Lauren Southern have shown, non-straight-white-male identity won't protect you from SJW socialism.

Post: #20

(03-04-2016 02:57 PM)Requiem Wrote:  Not sure if serious or just ignorant, but you certainly sound like Kasich. It's obviously about much much more than just skin color. White is a term that's used a lot by proponents and opponents but that's just a simplification. It is supposed to mean European. Obviously it's not about the amount of melanin. People always try to portrait such groups as stupid nonsensical bigots who don't have any basis for their actions. Do you know why they seem to have no basis? Because you guys are not willing to acknowledge their reasons and ignorantly reduce every bit of their efforts to being driven by skin color and hate. What nonsense.

I just wanted to respond to this bit. I do have respect everything else you said, as obviously your life has led you to certain conclusions which helped you form your opinion, just as mine has. I just hope you understand why people react in the way they do. But to what I bolded... come on dude, you gotta come better than that. Who describes themselves as European? "People who live in Europe dumbass" Do they? Stupid me, I thought The Sopranos was about Italians.

(03-04-2016 01:45 PM)Silver_Tube Wrote:  So much divisive race baiting, its sad really.

I tend to agree that the white race should have the right to unite for their common interests and build that same brotherhood that other racial groups have, but it ought to be done in a better way than this.

Think about what you're saying for a second. Try to really think about "that same brotherhood that other racial groups have". "Black Student Unions of course", which are made up of Americans who happen to black, because there's a big disconnect between "African-Americans" (a pseudonym for American Blacks) and ACTUAL African-Americans (The children of immigrants from African countries). Mexicans? Would you catch a Puerto Rican in a Mexican Pride Group? Asians? Come on.

So if you have pride in your ethnicity or nationality, no one will have an issue with it. You think there's gonna be hoopla over Italian/Irish/Jewish/Whatever Student Unions? You'd have ground to stand on if there was. Unfortunately, if you want to make a WHITE student union, you're saying two things: you don't want to make an AMERICAN student union, because you only want to include white people, and you're fully embracing the past of White Americans who arrived on the Mayflower, which includes Slavery and the genocide of native Americans. "WOOHOO WHITE PRIDE" You see how that sounds? Even in this climate no one is going to give you crap for being proud of your nationality or ethnicity, but yeah, when your Race (American whites) is most popularly known for doing some pretty shitty stuff, you'll run into opposition.

The reality is that the government gave White Americans "PRIDE". "You're not black, be proud of that, you are like your European ancestors..." Yeah, because we all know how much other countries love their American brethren. I've come to accept this about the manosphere: there's a lot of racism in it. Instead of dismissing it I've tried to understand, and I've felt comfortable enough with my answer that I enjoy participating in it again. There is an anger coming from the fact that other NATIONALITIES AND ETHNICITIES have found success in this great country built by your (speaking to American Whites, not you) forefathers. There is a feeling of displacement. Everyone has a home country, and yours is overrun with everyone else, taking taking taking and never saying... thank you?

To me what I see is that you guys (American Whites) want to be appreciated, but if that's true then maybe you (speaking to you here requiem) aren't as red pill and game conscious as you think.

edit: edits are in italics

Post: #21

(03-05-2016 07:47 AM)dads Wrote:  Even in this climate no one is going to give you crap for being proud of your nationality or ethnicity, but yeah, when your Race is mostly known for doing some pretty shitty stuff, you'll run into opposition.

How's that, now?

Post: #22

(03-05-2016 07:47 AM)dads Wrote:  Think about what you're saying for a second. Try to really think about "that same brotherhood that other racial groups have". "Black Student Unions of course", which are made up of Americans who happen to black, because there's a big disconnect between "African-Americans" (a pseudonym for American Blacks) and ACTUAL African-Americans (The children of immigrants from African countries). Mexicans? Would you catch a Puerto Rican in a Mexican Pride Group? Asians? Come on.

So if you have pride in your ethnicity or nationality, no one will have an issue with it. You think there's gonna be hoopla over Italian/Irish/Jewish/Whatever Student Unions? You'd have ground to stand on if there was. Unfortunately, if you want to make a WHITE student union, you're saying two things: you don't want to make an AMERICAN student union, because you only want to include white people, and you're fully embracing the past of White Americans who arrived on the Mayflower, which includes Slavery and the genocide of native Americans. "WOOHOO WHITE PRIDE" You see how that sounds? Even in this climate no one is going to give you crap for being proud of your nationality or ethnicity, but yeah, when your Race is mostly known for doing some pretty shitty stuff, you'll run into opposition.

Sorry, what?

What is this mythological people that doesn't do shitty stuff?

Are you a part of this people? Are your people better than every other race on the planet? Do your people feel particluarly vehemence against 'white' people, despite white not being a race?

And you wonder why groups troll racists like yourself.

Post: #23

(03-05-2016 08:03 AM)weambulance Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 07:47 AM)dads Wrote:  no one is going to give you crap for being proud of your nationality or ethnicity, but yeah, when your Race is mostly known for doing some pretty shitty stuff, you'll run into opposition.

How's that, now?

when your Race is mostly known for doing some pretty shitty stuff ?

some pretty shitty stuff like giving the world electricity, running water, and modern medicine. Pretty shitty stuff indeed...

For example, one "evil heterosexual White man", who did "pretty shitty stuff" that just happened to save tens (hundreds maybe) of millions of lives (not asking a dime for it):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur

Post: #24

Well, this is why white people (and white men specifically) are "known for shitty stuff" by large swaths of our society:

Post: #25

(03-05-2016 07:47 AM)dads Wrote:  So if you have pride in your ethnicity or nationality, no one will have an issue with it. You think there's gonna be hoopla over Italian/Irish/Jewish/Whatever Student Unions? You'd have ground to stand on if there was. Unfortunately, if you want to make a WHITE student union, you're saying two things: you don't want to make an AMERICAN student union, because you only want to include white people, and you're fully embracing the past of White Americans who arrived on the Mayflower, which includes Slavery and the genocide of native Americans. "WOOHOO WHITE PRIDE" You see how that sounds? Even in this climate no one is going to give you crap for being proud of your nationality or ethnicity, but yeah, when your Race is mostly known for doing some pretty shitty stuff, you'll run into opposition.

1) Funny how you wouldn't have a problem with Jewish Unions when Jews were massively involved in slave-trades for a long long time. Speaking of genocide... would you have a problem with a Turkish union?
2) So you're saying that because a part of a people has done some very shitty things at some point in history, the descendants of this people aren't allowed to feel proud of their heritage anymore? Even though said people has also done many many good things that actually brought massive developments and improvements to humanity? By this standard, pretty much nobody should be allowed to because almost every people have done tremendous crimes at some point in history. By trend of course, the less a people has achieved altogether, the less preeminent bad things it has done. So I'm not looking at a specific people here but if all a people ever did was invent a stick and cook mush, then yeah, there is probably also not a lot of opportunity to do some serious damage to others that history teachers will throw at every child that ever crosses their way.

You prove once again that multiculturalism doesn't work and thereby reinforce the point which ethnic nationalists are making: If you mix ethnicities together, then there is going to be tension. One ethnicity will blame the other for the problems the common society has. At some point, separation will have to happen OR one of the ethnicities will get wiped out. By outbreeding, by discrimination or by flight/displacement. You don't seem to realize what problems await you. The whole mixing thing was always opposed by every people throughout history. It is a new phenomenon to embrace it like you guys do, thinking you're above nature. Guess what, you're not and once the quality of life starts to go down the shitter, then just wait and see how people are going to react. Then, the real attitudes will surface. So pepper your angus.
This whole multiculti-experiment already shows a lot of blemish, but it somewhat worked thus far (although much worse than if it had been a mono-ethnic society) because the majority of people live well enough. Once that changes, I'll have the popcorn ready.
I'll say this: no matter who is complaining about "muh bad white people" and all that... all of them will miss us once we're gone, I promise you that. I probably won't be around by then anymore but who cares. Every time I think about this, I get a complacent smile on my evil white face. #Feelsgoodman.

For the love of humanity, and because I genuinely want EVERYONE, regardless of race, to be happy: The non-whites in this forum, talking to you, dads: Don't buy into the crap the media and "education"-system is selling you. It is divisive not in the form of what I preach (separatism) but it is divisive in an actually very dangerous form: it makes people HATE and BLAME each others. You might not like what I say, but I never blame specific races for specific wrongdoings (except for one tribe and I always do that with a disclaimer that most of them are not to blame) and I never come from a place of hatred. All I'm saying is, because this is my conviction, that everyone would be better off amongst their own people. But the media lies tell you that whites are to blame and so on and this doesn't cause feelings of separatism in minorities but feelings of rage and anger towards us. Which in turn causes whites to hate you back. So let's not go there.