Post: #26

Roland Emmerich is a horrible director.

The first independence day was pure trash too and they viral marketed the hell out of that thing. I remember the hype was extreme but when you actually saw the movie it was a massive let down. Plus Will Smith was goofy as fuck in that movie. "Welcome TO EARF! *punches alien*" People have been making fun of that scene for years.

I really doubt Emmerich's directing skills have gotten any better. Just look at the pieces of shit he's churned out in the recent past.

Will Smith's nepotism is hilarious though. He's been trying to push his goofball talentless kid on the general public for almost a decade now.

Post: #27

I liked the first one, they hardly show it these days unlike some films which get aired 10 times a year.

I didn't see a black guy or a Jew saving the world. I saw a hot shot pilot who I really liked back then in Will Smith, Fresh out of the Fresh Prince and the guy from Jurassic Park and some horror movie called The Fly.

The US of A got fucked up, as did London and they had these Aussies saying "bout bloody time". Its a kids movie with enough action to entertain adults. Now if you look at it it was at the height of 90s hope and dreams. Russia, USA, Middle East, Asia all coming together and destroying some bad guys.

Now?

Almost 16 years of increasing terrorism, outright militancy and conflict across hot spots. SJWs, gay agenda, racism and fascism are higher than they were.

Its another movie you'll enjoy for a bit in parts, thanking Will Smith for his idiocy and going on to the next thing your helpless consumerism will take to for all but 15 minutes.

It seems hollow.

Post: #28

(02-21-2016 11:40 PM)MiscBrah Wrote:  Independence Day Resurgence features a woman President.

When you think about it, it's actually quite realistic.

Post: #29

Red Pill Plot Prediction:

The aliens come and start kicking Earth's ass. The aliens form an alliance with the rapefugees and arm them with laser blasters so they can start taking out the cuck European men. European women hold up signs saying "ALIENS WELCOME" and chant in the streets. Meanwhile, America is pre-occupied with its latest media frenzy: whether or not all buildings should be equipped with special rooms so transsexuals can have sex with minors in privacy. The alien invasion isn't mentioned in media, as it would be considered anti-extraterrestrial. The entire American air force is staffed by overweight female pilots, and they pass out during takeoff from experiencing 3 G's. The female president hits menopause and becomes hysterical. She retreats to the White House 'Safe Room', where she orders all heterosexual white men into a concentration camp and then nukes it.

Before the nuking, the alien leader signs up for an RVF account and has 200 reps in one day. He pardons all forum members, beams us out of the concentration camp, and creates the RVF Round Table. They make us honorary advisers, where we teach them how to lift, game chicks and properly apply baking soda. A datasheet is dropped on intergalactic pickup.

Post: #30

^^^^^^^ This guy fucking nailed it.

Post: #31

(02-21-2016 11:40 PM)MiscBrah Wrote:  This frist thing I do nowadays before I see a movie is to look at the cast. Part of what made the original Independence Day so fun was the charismatic President who gave the great speech and was a likable guy.

Independence Day Resurgence features a woman President.

No thanks. I think I'll pass.

What perfect timing too, given it's another election year with a Clinton likely on the ballot.

Standard operating procedure in "entertainment" these days:

1. Always bring back beloved old franchises and fuck them up because they want to milk the cow and it shows.
2. Add insult to injury by sprinkling "social justice" bullshit onto it.

The president in that movie was one of its draws. He showed what a real leader is like - fighting up in the sky with his men, like Thutmose, Marlborough, Alexander, and so many other great leaders who led their men to victory and glory. I remember that fondly even though I was only 8 at the time.

Now? Well, we know.

Post: #32

(02-22-2016 12:01 AM)MiscBrah Wrote:  

(02-21-2016 11:54 PM)Alsos Wrote:  It's the spirit of the times. A female president character, an all-girl reboot of "Ghostbusters", this bizarre obsession with "strong female leads" in every movie. It's unavoidable.

No its not. The last movie I saw in theater was 13 hours. That one didn't feature any feminine bullshit.

There are too many good movies out there to concede and watch this modern SJW infected bullshit.

Watch it if you want but don't be afraid to go back and watch movies from the 50s and 60s and so on.

"Resurgence" won't be based on real events, though, unlike "13 Hours". And even then they could have still shifted the focus from the three heroic men to the primary woman involved. But that would have been....inconvenient. I shudder to think of the esophagus-deep anal probings Bay would have received from IRS, OSHA, EPA, Labor, etc. had he even hinted at taking the story in that direction.

As for watching this film? Nah. Didn't plan to. Nor "Ghostbustiers".

Edit: I missed your point. By unavoidable I meant it's going to happen, not that one has to actually suffer watching it.

Post: #33

Do people who can be swayed to a particular candidate by a "blow'em up" summer blockbuster really bother to vote? I'm not inclined to think any movie would have any affect on elections.

As for the ultimate hero a la Randy Quaid being female, I definitely see that happening. However, I would wager a few grand that she does not sacrifice her life for the betterment of mankind. Remember, female death/suffering in movies is misogynistic. Cersei has rough sex in Game of Thrones = national outrage. A boy gets stabbed through the heart and another chopped in half for being in the wrong place at the wrong time in the same show and you're checking Google to see what I'm talking about. Let's not forget jokes about steadfastly honorable Ned losing his head or all-around moral Oberyn losing his.

Post: #34

Only way I would see the sequel is if it had nothing but this scene on a loop for 2 hours:

Post: #35

(02-22-2016 03:57 PM)RIslander Wrote:  European women hold up signs saying "ALIENS WELCOME" and chant in the streets.

I think this happened in the first one.

Post: #36

(02-23-2016 02:05 AM)Tactician Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 03:57 PM)RIslander Wrote:  European women hold up signs saying "ALIENS WELCOME" and chant in the streets.

I think this happened in the first one.

Yep





The writers knew how western women would react to an 'alien' invasion even back in the 90's. Prophetic.

Post: #37

I can't believe I forgot about that scene. Prophetic indeed.

Post: #38

(02-22-2016 03:57 PM)RIslander Wrote:  Red Pill Plot Prediction:

The aliens come and start kicking Earth's ass. The aliens form an alliance with the rapefugees and arm them with laser blasters so they can start taking out the cuck European men. European women hold up signs saying "ALIENS WELCOME" and chant in the streets. Meanwhile, America is pre-occupied with its latest media frenzy: whether or not all buildings should be equipped with special rooms so transsexuals can have sex with minors in privacy. The alien invasion isn't mentioned in media, as it would be considered anti-extraterrestrial. The entire American air force is staffed by overweight female pilots, and they pass out during takeoff from experiencing 3 G's. The female president hits menopause and becomes hysterical. She retreats to the White House 'Safe Room', where she orders all heterosexual white men into a concentration camp and then nukes it.

Before the nuking, the alien leader signs up for an RVF account and has 200 reps in one day. He pardons all forum members, beams us out of the concentration camp, and creates the RVF Round Table. They make us honorary advisers, where we teach them how to lift, game chicks and properly apply baking soda. A datasheet is dropped on intergalactic pickup.

They already have that on TV in the UK

http://www.thedrum.com/news/2016/02/22/a...s-new-show

Quote:Promoting the March launch of E4's upcoming comedy drama "The Aliens", which depicts a world in which aliens have landed on earth, Channel 4's creative agency 4Creative initiated an extensive multi-platform campaign under the slogan 'Fight Human Oppression'. Video messages from the Alien League, a rebel group featured in the drama, interrupted several shows across the Channel 4 network as well as on the radio, YouTube and in the cinema.

Only in Europe would you see a TV show about aliens fighting against human oppression. Why would I want to watch aliens try to fight against me? I'm human and I want them to work the shitty jobs for no money.

Post: #39

(02-21-2016 11:54 PM)Alsos Wrote:  

(02-21-2016 11:40 PM)MiscBrah Wrote:  Independence Day Resurgence features a woman President.

No thanks. I think I'll pass.

I know nothing about the cast or plot here, but I'd bet good money that the character who ultimately saves the day a la Randy Quaid's in "ID4" will likewise be female.

It's the spirit of the times. A female president character, an all-girl reboot of "Ghostbusters", this bizarre obsession with "strong female leads" in every movie. It's unavoidable.

If it's Hillary, maybe she will turn the aliens into stone by projecting her ugly image aboard their ships?

Post: #40

(02-22-2016 12:00 AM)Speculation Wrote:  

(02-21-2016 11:40 PM)MiscBrah Wrote:  Independence Day Resurgence features a woman President.

No thanks. I think I'll pass.

They just can't leave it alone can they?

They have to shoehorn women and minorities into roles no matter how unrealistic it is compared to real life.

I get that its a movie so its already meant to have the fantastic (eg aliens), but when everything is changed to fit their agenda it breaks the suspension of disbelief.

They might as well have a child president or dogs genetically developing the intelligence to drive cars around. It makes as much sense as the disproportionate amount of women jammed into 'tough guy leader' roles.

On another note I was watching Agent Carter the other day which is a spinoff TV show of the Captain America franchise. They've got a black guy as the 'super genius doctor/scientist'. Its set in the 1940's but everyone treats him completely equally with 2016 enlightened values except for one diner owner which they showed as their token racist. Even the white protaganist falls in love with him. It just completely breaks the belief in the period.

I used to wonder what some of the guys were talking about when they said they could no longer watch modern liberal tv/movies. I'm starting to get where they're coming from.

That's why I am very much looking forward to Trump being sworn in. It would be a four year long red pill middle finger up everyone's ass pushing this shit.

Post: #41

(02-23-2016 02:11 AM)Speculation Wrote:  

(02-23-2016 02:05 AM)Tactician Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 03:57 PM)RIslander Wrote:  European women hold up signs saying "ALIENS WELCOME" and chant in the streets.

I think this happened in the first one.

Yep





The writers knew how western women would react to an 'alien' invasion even back in the 90's. Prophetic.

Brilliant - see you over in the Europe Migrant Invasion thread ;-)

Post: #42

(02-22-2016 03:57 PM)RIslander Wrote:  Red Pill Plot Prediction:

The aliens come and start kicking Earth's ass. The aliens form an alliance with the rapefugees and arm them with laser blasters so they can start taking out the cuck European men. European women hold up signs saying "ALIENS WELCOME" and chant in the streets. Meanwhile, America is pre-occupied with its latest media frenzy: whether or not all buildings should be equipped with special rooms so transsexuals can have sex with minors in privacy. The alien invasion isn't mentioned in media, as it would be considered anti-extraterrestrial. The entire American air force is staffed by overweight female pilots, and they pass out during takeoff from experiencing 3 G's. The female president hits menopause and becomes hysterical. She retreats to the White House 'Safe Room', where she orders all heterosexual white men into a concentration camp and then nukes it.

Before the nuking, the alien leader signs up for an RVF account and has 200 reps in one day. He pardons all forum members, beams us out of the concentration camp, and creates the RVF Round Table. They make us honorary advisers, where we teach them how to lift, game chicks and properly apply baking soda. A datasheet is dropped on intergalactic pickup.

Aah - you forgot the most important part of the plot. Roosh plants his first extraterrestrial flag!



Follows up with new book titled 'Bang Spabegawa' - followed by 'Don't Bang Glabuphus XII'

Post: #43

(02-22-2016 03:57 PM)RIslander Wrote:  Red Pill Plot Prediction:

women hold up signs saying "ALIENS WELCOME" and chant in the streets.

It already happened, in the first movie, the strippers friend of Will Smith's girlfriend goes to the top of a building with a "Welcome" sign, funny enough, she gets blowup with everyone there.





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Small spoiler

Will Smith was in negotiation to be in this movie, but he wanted to put his son Jaden in it and demanded to much money, so the producers told the scriptwriter to write two scrips, one with Smith character alive and one where his character is dead.



I assume Smith was thinking the movie will not be made without him, joke on him.

Post: #44

So basically, Smith was Trini Lopez'd.

Relevant:

http://www.dansimmons.com/Shakespeare/shakespeare.htm

Quote:1967's "The Dirty Dozen" may be one of the ultimate testosterone-movies of all time. The plot is idiotic -- a combat major is punished with the task of taking a dozen losers, in the army prison for everything from manslaughter to rape to cold-blooded murder, and training them to parachute into France just before D-Day and to blow up a huge chateau -- a sort of fancy whorehouse -- where German Wehrmacht officers will be relaxing with naughty French ladies. Most of the movie concentrates on the pranks, high-jinks, and jokes of the dozen thieves and murderers being whipped into shape -- and finding their odd unit morale -- in England before the jump.

"The Dirty Dozen's" star, Lee Marvin, called the film "crap" and "just a dummy moneymaker" and told interviewers for years that it had nothing to do with actual war. (Marvin should know; he was a decorated Marine who fought in the South Pacific.) I've never met a woman who sat (willingly) through all of "The Dirty Dozen". We guys tend to like it, especially with a cold beer and some chips and our sock feet up on the coffee table.

The young 'sixties recording star, 'Trini Lopez', was one of the Dirty Dozen. Lopez was a Latin singer who specialized in loopy 60's songs that didn't survive the decade. But as the movie ran overtime and over budget, Frank Sinatra advised Trini to quit before the "acting" cut into his recording and touring time, or, as other versions of the story go, to demand more money and a bigger role.

This is the way I heard it in the late 'sixties. Trini's agent demanded more money and script approval. In the original script, Trini's lovable character-- "Pedro Jimenez" (or "Mayonnaise" as the other killers, rapists and thieves affectionately call him) -- was supposed to climb to the roof of the Nazi chateau and blow up the radio antenna there.

Trini demanded a bigger scene. The writers added a nonsense scene where Trini's character steps through the roof of the huge chateau -- his GI-booted foot appearing in a well-lighted room below -- and where he then gets stuck. The Trini character now has to decide whether to survive by compromising the mission or die heroically. With Trini's demands escalating, the writers expanded the scene until all the rest of the Dirty Dozen pause in their many killing-Germans tasks and watch Trini's character sacrifice himself by lobbing grenades at the nearby radio antenna, thus blowing himself to bits but carrying out his mission.

It wasn't enough for Trini. He demanded more. He wanted his wounded character then to light the dynamite that blew up all of the chateau . . . and then to get away as one of the few survivors.

Watching the movie, you won't see much of Trini Lopez. He was cut from most of the scenes where he was anything more than part of the group. His one singing scene -- playing a guitar at night in the Dirty Dozen compound and singing a wretched 1960's Latin tune that was completely anachronistic for World War II -- was shortened to a "Knock it off, Mayonaise" shout and Trini hustling for cover.

You see the director's and writers' decision about Trini's agent's demands when the Dirty Dozen land at night, by parachute, in France.

Lee Marvin looks up when Charles Bronson and Clint Walker (playing the lovable illiterate idiot who killed a man by accident) show up in the dark.

"You find Jiminez?" asks Lee Marvin.

"Yeah," says Bronson with a visible smirk. "Hung up in the apple orchard. His neck was broke."

Lee Marvin shrugs and the movie moves on.

(Note: It's fun to hunt for Trini Lopez Deaths in other movies. One of the most notorious was the sad off-screen death of "Fat Clemenza". Richard Castellano, the actor who played Peter Clemenza in the first "Godfather", received the highest pay of any of the non-star actors and received some of the best lines in the movie, including our guy-favorite, " Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. " Everyone agreed that Castellano had put in a wonderful performance opposite Al Pacino and the other up and coming superstars.

Castellano knew that the story for "Godfather II" had Clemenza as a central character in the sequel. Since both the history of Vito Coreleone (now played by Robert DeNiro) and the "current-day" 1950's strand of the two-part tale had the character of Peter Clemenza in it -- the young Clemenza played beautifully by the young actor Bruno Kirby -- Castellano knew that he had a lot of negotiating leverage. And it was to be the Clemenza character who, thinking Michael Corleone had attempted to assassinate him, betrays Michael and become the number one government witness at the federal (and televised) organized crime commission hearings.

Richard Castellano, "Clemenza", demanded not just script approval but the contractual right to create his own lines. And he wanted a lot more money -- money right up there with Al Pacino (and, of course, more than the newcomer Method Actor Robert DeNiro.)

So there we are in the opening of Godfather, Part II -- the long scene at the new Corleone compound on the shores of Lake Tahoe with hundreds of people there, Nevada politicians, casino owners, and rich folks, all to celebrate little Anthony Vito Corleone's confirmation -- and Fredo (the brilliant John Cazale) and his bodyguards welcome an old-time Mafia mustache "from Back East"(and new character to the story) Frankie Pentangeli (played by Michael Gazzo) and his bodyguard Willi Cicci (played by Joe Spinell) and the old-man Pentangeli character has a black armband on, and after they're finished hugging, Pentangeli -- who's obviously had almost as much to drink as the drunken Fredo -- points to his mourning armband, and Fredo looks down and says, "Oh, yeah, old man Clemenza. We were all real sorry to hear about that. Heart attack, wasn't it?" and Pentangeli, who's been given all of Clemenza's great scenes in "Godfather Part II", right down to the Roman suicide in the bath on the army base while in protective custody, says --

"Heart attack! That was no heart attack!"

And nobody comments on that during all the rest of the movie, but somewhere Francis Ford Coppola and Mario Puzo, the co-screenwriter, were smiling. They'd found Clemenza in the apple orchard and his neck was broke.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #45

There are so many spoilers in this thread!!! It reminds me of that thread from six or so months ago when someone got mad about members spoiling Seinfeld.

EDIT: I found it! /thread-48003...pid1036483 Classic thread.

Post: #46

(02-25-2016 01:30 AM)RIslander Wrote:  There are so many spoilers in this thread!!! It reminds me of that thread from six or so months ago when someone got mad about members spoiling Seinfeld.

EDIT: I found it! /thread-48003...pid1036483 Classic thread.

Dude 1996.

Post: #47

(02-25-2016 04:05 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:30 AM)RIslander Wrote:  There are so many spoilers in this thread!!! It reminds me of that thread from six or so months ago when someone got mad about members spoiling Seinfeld.

EDIT: I found it! /thread-48003...pid1036483 Classic thread.

Dude 1996.

Post: #48

(02-25-2016 06:07 PM)RIslander Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 04:05 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:30 AM)RIslander Wrote:  There are so many spoilers in this thread!!! It reminds me of that thread from six or so months ago when someone got mad about members spoiling Seinfeld.

EDIT: I found it! /thread-48003...pid1036483 Classic thread.

Dude 1996.

Post: #49

I've checked out of Hollywood for the most part once in a while a movie intrigues me but mostly it's just reboots and sequels no one asked for or that we're never intended to be sequels. not saying you can't pick up later and make a great sequel such as the back to the future movies but by and large I am not going to give my money to them.

Post: #50

New trailer



So independence day 2 will have a woman as president of the united states, and it's election year...

Guess this movie is pretty much ruined,i hope the aliens win this time.

And no Big Will???