AVOID SOYLENT

As some of you know, I was regularly taking this as a major part of my diet for several months.

After three and a half months I was feeling lethargic, gaining weight, losing muscle, and had a low sex drive.

I just got my testosterone results back.

I have a 230 serum level. Down from 650 this time last year.

Avoid this.

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I thought this was a joke (soylent green), but it looks like a meal replacement.

Soy is a phytoestrogen, so I'd expect it to lower your testosterone. I'd be curious to see your estradiol level on and off it, but it sounds like there's no way you'd go back on it. Either way, thanks for the heads up.

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I regularly ate Soylent for lunch for most of the summer. During that time, I felt more energetic, lost fat, gained muscle, and noticed no change to my sex drive.

Are you absolutely sure Soylent is to blame?

Were you eating Soylent solely by itself? With Soylent, I always blend it with various fruits, leafy greens, peanut butter, and/or protein powder and make it into a smoothie.

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Sounds like you need to get on the TRT brah

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Avoid anything soy, except very occasionally as a special treat in the case of foods you like with soy in them.

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There is a million recipes people share. From ketoylent to carboylent to everything in between. All kinds of different ingredients

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I'm on Huel which is a British vegan meal replacement drink that gets me 600 calories and 50g of protein a pop.

My BF% is now between 13-17% and I definitely see an increase in muscle definition in the mirror after 6 weeks of toning weight lifting.

I think I can still rely on Huel to underwrite the approaching bulking phase. Will check out the soy content in case it undermines my T.

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OP: The main ingredient in the powder is rice protein. Soy lecithin is in the last five of something like sixty ingredients. Maybe you should consider other causes of your T decline?

Other posters: Don't let facts slow you down. Also, Grape Nuts contain neither grapes nor nuts. Discuss.

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So you guy are using this stuff to meet your macros exactly with no need to count carbs, proteins etc? Do you feel sated in a similar timeframe after consumption than a regular meal?

I think I like steak too much.

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(12-25-2015 08:00 AM)roberto Wrote:  So you guy are using this stuff to meet your macros exactly with no need to count carbs, proteins etc? Do you feel sated in a similar timeframe after consumption than a regular meal?

I think I like steak too much.

I eat normally at lunch in the office canteen and at weekends. Breakfast, dinner and supper during the week is a 600cal, 50g Huel Shake. I felt hungry during the first week which I think was physiological.

I also take regular protein shakes before and after the gym and before bed which helps me consume 270g of protein a day. The definition of my body has definitely changed for the better and I haven't started on the heavy weights/ low reps programme yet.

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(12-24-2015 09:46 PM)storm Wrote:  As some of you know, I was regularly taking this as a major part of my diet for several months.

After three and a half months I was feeling lethargic, gaining weight, losing muscle, and had a low sex drive.

I just got my testosterone results back.

I have a 230 serum level. Down from 650 this time last year.

Avoid this.

Look on the bright side, you're now low enough to get on TRT

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It's people!!!!!

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(12-25-2015 11:14 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  It's people!!!!!

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Yikes.

I think the prefix "soy" in the name is a huge red flag.

There's stories on the internet of people living almost exclusively on this stuff. Anyone thinking of drinking this stuff should take a look at those people and see if they are the kind of folks you'd want to take nutrition advice from.

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(12-25-2015 08:10 AM)N°6 Wrote:  

(12-25-2015 08:00 AM)roberto Wrote:  So you guy are using this stuff to meet your macros exactly with no need to count carbs, proteins etc? Do you feel sated in a similar timeframe after consumption than a regular meal?

I think I like steak too much.

I eat normally at lunch in the office canteen and at weekends. Breakfast, dinner and supper during the week is a 600cal, 50g Huel Shake. I felt hungry during the first week which I think was physiological.

I also take regular protein shakes before and after the gym and before bed which helps me consume 270g of protein a day. The definition of my body has definitely changed for the better and I haven't started on the heavy weights/ low reps programme yet.

That's an incredible amount of protein. Do you notice much difference?

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