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El Chapo sends threatening message to ISIS

What are your thoughts?

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quoted from source: http://www.cartelblog.com

It turns out a Mexican blogger leaked the message after it was sent email encrypted directly to the Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, a prominent ISIS leader. The blogger has intimate ties with actual Sinaloa cartel members, so it looks as if the warning is indeed legit. !!!

The three central cartels which move drugs across Mexico, as well as the rest of the world, are The Sinaloa Cartel, The Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) and Los Zetas.

With the Middle East having become a burgeoning scene for cocaine, ecstasy and other party-based drugs, the cartels have been expanding their operational reach to these regions, hoping to heavily profit from the oil industries rich princes and wealthy businessmen who have been fueling the growing nightlife scene.

ISIS. As drugs are not a part of the organizations ideology for a Muslim State, ISIS fighters have been destroying shipments of drugs from the cartels.

The cartels have made it clear that ISIS just made a huge mistake by destroying their shipments. It’s clear from the leaked emails that they are not only extremely mad, but are definitely willing to step up and take the organization out if they continue to mess with their business.

Here’s part of the leaked email:

“You [ISIS] are not soldiers. You are nothing but lowly p*ssies. Your god cannot save you from the true terror that my men will levy at you if you continue to impact my operation.”
“My men will destroy you. The world is not yours to dictate. I pity the next son of a wh*re that tries to interfere with the business of the Sinaloa Cartel. I will have their heart and tongue torn from them.”

It looks like it’s on. It would be ironic that the group who ends up taking out ISIS is El Chapo’s drug cartel! They seem up to the task and it could be worth giving immunity to this guy in exchange for him and his boys taking out ISIS once and for all!

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My thoughts are we already have multiple threads about race, religion and politics on the first page of this subforum. "El Chapo's" tweets would be more appropriate in an already existing thread.

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The reason why i posted this is because ISIS is a very real threat to the US. It seems me like we are fighting with both hands tight behind our backs. Regardless, don't know if this blog is real or not.

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It should have been a world leader saying that, shortly before unleashing hell.

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My money is on ISIS in this one.

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Haha nice way to write an email, I would love to see a fight between them. But I doubt it will ever happen.

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(12-09-2015 07:20 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  My money is on ISIS in this one.

I think I'd take that bet. Most of the ISIS videos are fake shit. It's been discussed before. Even Hollywood pyrotechnic experts have pointed out problems in their videos. Go over to bestgore and search "cartel". Watch some of their videos. When they're sawing someone's head off with a dull knife, and you've got shitty mariachi music playing from a tape recorder to break up the screams, you know the motherfuckers are keeping it real.

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I would love to see Tarantino tackle this treatment.

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Was anyone else hoping this thread was going to be about MidWest trolling ISIS instead of this forum?

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The cartel has no way to project power like it can in its own backyard. Unless they're buying a whole mercenary army to go in and start brutalising the populace, they can't do anything outside of hiring assassins.

The best they can do is go after ISIS assets in other countries and leave the mutilated bodies for them to see. Los Zetas have tracked down social media accounts and murdered the people behind them, so if anyone comes out in support of ISIS they are a legitimate target.

The difference between the cartels and ISIS; One believes in sky fairies which limits the number of people to their cause, the other uses violence as a fun day out to gain power and money.

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Wait, aren't Mexicans somewhat descended from Spanish pirates, so they're practically all pirates? And aren't Islamic terrorists mostly from Asia, one end of which has ninjas, which practically makes all muslims ninjas? Is this yet another chapter of the eternal war between...

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My money is on the cartel.

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I think we may not be seeing the forest for all the trees here. Whether or not the Sinaloa Cartel is going to face off with ISIS remains to be seen. However what matters a lot more here is that this confirms how I expected South Americans to respond when confronted by middle Eastern terrorists. ISIS would be well advised to keep their asses out of S.A. because not only are they up against a deeply catholic/religious population, but the well established and numerous criminal slice of society is well armed, well financed, and is used to dealing with horrendous violence.

Over here in the West terrorists face at worst the death penalty (after long drawn out legal procedures spanning years) - in Europe they go to prison hotels for life where they enjoy perks and entertainment. You blow up a bar or church in South America you better get away or get shot dead because those guys will go fucking medieval on your ass.

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"With the Middle East having become a burgeoning scene for cocaine, ecstasy and other party-based drugs, the cartels have been expanding their operational reach to these regions, hoping to heavily profit from the oil industries rich princes and wealthy businessmen who have been fueling the growing nightlife scene.

ISIS. As drugs are not a part of the organizations ideology for a Muslim State, ISIS fighters have been destroying shipments of drugs from the cartels."

Actually this part got me thinking as it suggests that ISIS taking over Western countries represents a problem for drug cartels. Devout Muslims living within a Muslim state pray five times a day and widespread drug use would be actively and severely punished. The unintended consequence of ISIS blowing up drug shipments may be that they just made an enemy that does not play by the rules and is used to dealing with guerrilla warfare.

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One half of the sheikhs are dropping Dubai deuces on instagram models and the other half has been funding jihadis.

WIA

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Isis fighters would beat the cartels, their armies are larger and more well equipped. They are also driven by deep seated hatred for the West and a belief in eternal happiness through martyrdom.

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When you pit mass delusion & violent ideology against paid mercs & profit i'm going with mass delusion and ideology winning in the end. Plus ISIS has a far deeper recruitment pool.

Cartels have been shown to be vulnerable when you crush their head guys and the money flow gets interrupted. They have to reform under new management and their operation tends to fragment easily. With muslim fundamentalists they tend to be more resilient like cockroaches after nuclear winter.

Plus ISIS are backed by significant cash resources..oil commodities. That is worth more than even drug money and supplied by global intel networks.

Who knows how many ISIS and "moderate" fundamentalist allies are trained by proxy or directly by Israel or various western special forces too.

This would be an interesting fight to the death though. If you think about it both the cartels and ISIS behave and are run like feudal medieval kingdoms.

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(12-10-2015 09:52 AM)Gmac Wrote:  My money is on the cartel.

My money is on nothing happening other than some more e-thugging on social media.

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This will still be bloody. Despite how retarded the West is our security forces are amazingly proficient at doing their assigned task.

Not so with South America, but SA has more fighting spirit. So while I bet on the cartels too, there will be major losses.

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(12-10-2015 10:50 AM)redpillage Wrote:  I think we may not be seeing the forest for all the trees here. Whether or not the Sinaloa Cartel is going to face off with ISIS remains to be seen. However what matters a lot more here is that this confirms how I expected South Americans to respond when confronted by middle Eastern terrorists. ISIS would be well advised to keep their asses out of S.A. because not only are they up against a deeply catholic/religious population, but the well established and numerous criminal slice of society is well armed, well financed, and is used to dealing with horrendous violence.

Over here in the West terrorists face at worst the death penalty (after long drawn out legal procedures spanning years) - in Europe they go to prison hotels for life where they enjoy perks and entertainment. You blow up a bar or church in South America you better get away or get shot dead because those guys will go fucking medieval on your ass.

Given the Imperative of Jihad. They will never stay out of S.A no matter the cost. In the same way they kept fighting the Byzantine Empire until they finally took Constantinople.

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History Channel Should Make an "Ultimate Soldier Challenge" episode about this:

ISIS vs. Cartels

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That's all bullshit. Do you remember the talibans in afghanistan, they were considered a radical muslim party while they were drug traffickers themselves.

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(12-15-2015 02:06 PM)thecrazy Wrote:  That's all bullshit. Do you remember the talibans in afghanistan, they were considered a radical muslim party while they were drug traffickers themselves.

That's actually not entirely true. The taliban (pre 9/11) cracked down on drug trafficking and opium cultivation and was actually given money by the U.S. government. Drug cultivation was at a historical low during this period.

After the war the various afghan tribes and taliban remnants started opium cultivation and trafficking again as a source of revenue due to the fact the country was in complete ruin and disarray.

It's one of the great ironies in the "post" war rebuilding process. It has allowed drug trafficking to flourish again.

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(12-15-2015 04:26 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 02:06 PM)thecrazy Wrote:  That's all bullshit. Do you remember the talibans in afghanistan, they were considered a radical muslim party while they were drug traffickers themselves.

That's actually not entirely true. The taliban (pre 9/11) cracked down on drug trafficking and opium cultivation and was actually given money by the U.S. government. Drug cultivation was at a historical low during this period.

After the war the various afghan tribes and taliban remnants started opium cultivation and trafficking again as a source of revenue due to the fact the country was in complete ruin and disarray.

It's one of the great ironies in the "post" war rebuilding process. It has allowed drug trafficking to flourish again.

Just like how the "dancing boy" pederasty was cracked down upon by the taliban, only to flourish after they were deposed.