Post: #1

From the late 1800's to the 1960's women pushed for equality and slowly started gaining the rights, traits, personalities etc of men. Nowadays we see nearly zero discrepancy between the sexes. Women have started to prioritize careers over families and men have become soft, effeminate cuckolds. Although the possibility is looking bleak today, is it possible we may return to traditional roles within say, the next 50 or so years? I believe so for the following reasons:

• The slowly growing anti-pc/anti multiculturalist movement
• The inability for degenerate homosexuals/careerist women to reproduce
• Feminism is on the verge of its downfall, as shown by the desperation by third-wave feminists to find sexism in the dumbest shit
  

With events like the Paris attacks, people see the holes of leftist values and want someone such as Donald Trump to lead our country in the right direction away from liberal bullshit and political correctness. And as much as I hate to even think about it, if Bernie Sanders won presidency most of America would see the huge flaws in progressive social/economic values as his systems and reforms would inevitably fail. Also, in one of Roosh's recent videos he talks about how media propaganda is becoming increasingly easy to detect. I think this applies to third wave feminism and their childish theories and complaining. I think that these factors will slowly bring a rise to traditional views on society and gender.

What are your thoughts?

Post: #2

Short answer; yes.

As resources become tighter and the world becomes more dangerous, the independent women will go by way side if she already hasn't. As corporations become increasingly outrageous and stifling to work with and for, men will create a new. As we men see the errors of our fathers ways and quasi self ware women see the mistakes in thinking they can be happy without men, the gap will be bridged. As no fault divorce raises more questions, it will be overturned. As superacs with nasty agenda goals become exposed, the campaign contribution laws will be amended.

I could go on but, you get the idea, to every evil and idiotic policy, there is a counter balance. Those counter balances have been suppressed and narrated out of the discussion for the past 40+ years. The first step is to remove the narrator which is what this forum and many other rising media groups are doing. With the shill dickhead removed from the microphone, people will see the light. The second step is implementing the counter balance.

Humans, if nothing else, are amazingly resilient. The PC culture extinguished that fire in the soul for what is right and we are seeing what happens when that ember gets some oxygen. It roars.

Yes, the world will continue to get much uglier in the short term. Long term though, the K selected will win, we always do.

Post: #3

No. The pill and technological advancements make that impossible.

Post: #4

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Post: #5

Yes. Tradition is the natural social equilibrium that exists over centuries of clockwise and anti-clockwise swings.

I just hope it won't be population replacement by mass-immigration by elements which hold fast to traditional sex roles that will cause the swing back.

Post: #6

With two observations, the answer appears to be yes:

1. All cognitive traits are heritable, including attitudes with regard to traditional vs. liberal attitudes toward sex roles... where traditional versus liberal aren't necessarily two end-points of a one-dimensional continuum, but rather opposite directions along the principal component of a suite of beliefs

2. Relatively "traditional " groups within Western nations are outbreeding "liberal" ones--whether it be conservatives versus liberals, conservative whites versus liberal whites, latinos versus whites, Arabs versus whites, etc.

One may be careful what they wish for, though. Such breeding patterns may lead to greater "traditionality," but at the cost of lower average IQ.

Post: #7

They have never been gone.

Post: #8

They still exist even now.

But when you surround yourself with those in the hook up culture, you are bound to get a world view warped around that.

There are plenty of people out there who are actually happily married, guys who knew they were the men and acted as such and married women who wanted to be women.

Post: #9

The vast, vast majority of the world still has traditional sex roles. It's only the degenerated parts of the West that do not.

Post: #10

I say yes, for the fact that traditional sex roles make people happier and create better societal outcomes. In fact, I predict that there will be a stronger trend towards patriarchy within the next 25 years. But I think things will get worse before they improve.

Women and government can promote feminism now because they have enjoyed the benefits thus far and have not paid the costs. But once the cost become due in the forms of not getting married, getting married to a lower status male, aging out of fertility without children, lower fertility rates, lower population, GDP and less government revenue, the worst excesses of feminism will be curbed back. It won't be exactly as it was in the past, but the traditionalist element will be stronger. You can even hear women nowadays who have been ruined by feminism promoting a more traditionalist message. That's a step in the right direction.

Post: #11

Absolutely, multiculturalism is already being seriously challenged in Europe. Russia, Latin America, African countries, muslim countries, and certain parts of Asia also more or less reject feminism. Also, a calculable minority of us in the younger generation the USA/Canada are also getting pissed at liberal policies and social constructs and resorting to Neomasculinity.

I can only see this latest terror attack giving more popularity to groups like National Front, which will continue to influence change in the sociopolitical spectrum in France and other western nations. I'm glad France is now fucking up ISIS targets in Syria with extreme prejudice. I'm glad the President of France has the wisdom to identify the problem and the spine to speak and act against it, something our US administration is totally myopic and inept about.

Oh, the times, they are a-changin'.

Post: #12

No, in terms of roles there is no way back.

But the only way forward for smart women, in the west, if they want to actually snag a guy, is to become feminine - that is the future of "feminism" - actually understanding what the real metaphysical truth of femininity is.

So many men are going to EE, SEA, becoming MGTOW or just being gay, I suspect there could well be a new women's movement just around the corner, their prime biological imperative is to breed afterall!

Post: #13

(11-16-2015 09:28 PM)Cortés Wrote:  Although the possibility is looking bleak today, is it possible we may return to traditional roles within say, the next 50 or so years? I believe so for the following reasons:

I've been thinking of your question all day, but my answer is going to come out of left field.

There is one very easy way for traditional sex roles to return. Allow me to elucidate:

Let's call her, Starla. The ultimate SJW, she graduated from Yale with a degree in gender studies and is now working in some bank that needed to round out its hiring quotas.

Starla lives in New York and is popular in the club scene where she hangs out with her female posse and is very liberal with her sexual adventures. Man, woman, or Great Dane carry neither consequence, conscience, or even a second thought.

On this morning, Starla wakes up to discover she overslept. The power in her loft is out. Irritated, she looks at her expensive electronic watch some old boyfriend gave her (she can never remember his name among so many) and its dead too. Suddenly, she realizes she hears no traffic from eight stories down. Looking out her window she sees the great city she lives in has come to a dead stop.

Later she will learn that either a superpower detonated a thermonuclear device 200 miles above Kansas City or the sun gave out one heck of a solar flare and during the night while she slept, in seconds, the entire northern hemisphere of the Americas went back to the 1880s because of the resulting electromagnetic pulse.

Starla has no Internet or smartphone access. Starla has no running water. Starla has no food. And she shares her predicament with several million other city dwellers.

Starla is going to learn very quickly that a degree in gender studies, even if from Yale, carries little weight in the real world when the world becomes real. Her pussy pass is defunct. Unless she can find a man who can protect and feed her, she's in serious weeds.

And what does Starla bring to the table?

Sex and nothing else. Unless she demonstrates to a man that she can cook, sew, or do something that contributes to a man's well being, her life span in this brave new world is limited to days. When the excrement impacts the rotary blades, traditional sex roles will return if people truly wish to survive. Men must rise to fulfill the roles of kings, warriors, priests and lovers that they have been biologically given and women must become true helpmeets in the fullest extent of the word because if they don't, reality will be most brutal.

Just my thoughts.

Post: #14

Be the Patriarchy you wish to see in the world.

Find a traditional girl. Be a traditional man. Raise a traditional family. Find people who are like this, build a community. It won't be done for you, you must do it for yourself.

Post: #15

Nope. Not unless we suspend democracy, end the capitalist system, and accept significantly lower standards of living going forward.

Outside of the Middle East, most countries are becoming more Westernized. Capitalism and technology are the ultimate equalization tools that sweep old traditions away, from caste systems (India, Brazil) to gender roles (the west first, then the rest).

Even in China, Japan and other Asian countries women are becoming more career oriented, yet they never had the feminist revolutions there.

What's happening in the Middle East and Muslim Africa today is the consequence of reactionaries (Sunni Arab Revivalism, religious pushback) countering what they see as the inevitable societal change brought about by technological and political change.

Post: #16

Sad to say, but only WWIII or a huge catastrophe can bring back traditional roles on a big scale. Keep in mind that outside of this forum, probably 90-95% of the population would tell you that we live in the best era of all times due to our easy access to resources and wealth. There's no way to go back while our current system stays in place, no way

Post: #17

(11-22-2015 02:46 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  Sad to say, but only WWIII or a huge catastrophe can bring back traditional roles on a big scale. Keep in mind that outside of this forum, probably 90-95% of the population would tell you that we live in the best era of all times due to our easy access to resources and wealth. There's no way to go back while our current system stays in place, no way

Not just outside of this forum, many of us on this forum would also argue that this is the best era to be alive. Modern medicine, access to quality fresh produce and meats at all times throughout the year, instant communication, no fear of enslavement, no fear of being drafted to fight a war against your neighbour state, and of course easy access to pussy at levels not seen before for men young and old.

Even if there was WW3, why would we return to more a backwards lifestyles? After all WW2 gave us decolonization of the 3rd world, liberalism, the destruction of fascism and reactionary politics, and the banishment of ultra rightwing ideology from the political mainstream for generations.