Post: #1

Gonna be boring and write some stuff about myself.
25 year old, 5ft 10/11 - yeah on sone days I feel taller. Fairly decent bod and face. I've been hit on like 5x over the last 2 months by women, mostly not my type but oh well. Girls complement me on my outfit etc and I've been told that I'm one of few people who can pull off pink shirt and trousers in a club or bar. My notch count is 5 + 5 escorts. Did those escorts in my most beta phase 19-22.

I'll be gaming in Leeds, bunch of tight student pussy and young professionals too. Girls tend to be cakeface so it's difficult to say whether a wild beast is hiding behind that makeup.

Up until recently I was a "beta for life". Had a gf but lost the frame completely and became clingy and jealous because she was doing shady stuff. Ended with her but still got some feels.

Over the last 2-3 months I've started going to meetups, making some closer friends etc. My social skills are much better now. Some days I feel like I can game the whole room while other days I just listen and don't feel like anything.

I'll be using zinc, multivitamin and phenibut. Phenibut works well. Once i took it and people were just drawn in to me for some reason. They'd just keep asking me questions and stuff. I was very calm and felt like I had it under control ha.

My logisrics are sort of crap now. Moving to the very centre of leeds in 2 weeks tho - partly to pull girls and also for saving time ( all my social and work life revolves around the city centre). So for now I'll try approaching girls maybe 2days a week. The goal is 5 girls per day so 10 approaches. Once I move in I wanna go our 5x a week and get 25 approaches a week.



Anyway had my approach on Tuesday.

1#
Salsa social night out. At the bar this girl is kinda looking at me a bit. I get my drink and to off to friends to chat a bit. I get back about 10min later to put the glass and the girl is dancing. I grab her hand and we dance. She's bad - can't even do mamba properly.
I tell her she's doing good. She sort of dances very close to me, maybe half a foot.
We finish dancing and I chat to her. She's Brazilian, nice rack and boobs. Kinda on a thick side tho. I'd say maybe 5-7 depending on who you ask. For me shes a 6 because I'm not a huge fan of Brazilian girls. She's obviously into me. I initiate a bit of kino, light touching on the arm and then once she says something cute "I'm the youngest child and have 3 siblings" I hug her with 1 arm and go "ooh you're adorable". I do a bit of negging to but not too much. She introduces me to her friend who's there as well. Then she tells me she's hungry and will go to eat downstairs. By that time I've spent with her like 15min chatting. I tell her to give me her number and I'll contact her later. She gives it to me and saves it and on top of it miss calls so she's got my number too. Then we say bye and she hugs me.. 3 times with last one being kinda tight hug. On the 3rd time she gives me a peck on the cheek. Funny thing is that I go for the peck too and we kinda kiss each others lips a bit. She backs out and blushes a bit and says "message me!" And leaves. Her friend stays.

I ended up talking with some girls and her friend saw it and obviously danced with a lot more friends. I also gamed those 2 young Spanish girls later on which her friend probably saw as well. The room wasn't super huge and it wasn't fully packed.


I messaged her about 30minutes afterwards which was like 11m and she replied within 2 minutes:
-it's Hairz, had fun dancing with you but I think you need some more practice.
-hi Hairz. Its first time salsa, of course I need to practice salsa xx.

I reply the next morning:
-yeah I'll teach you. Are you free on Saturday?

No reply. Been 24h.


Obervations:
She was into me from the start and liked my touching. I could probably go with her to eat and end up banging but I wanted to dance more that night. I think her friend told her that I was talking to other girls. She replied immediately that night but didn't reply at all next day. Gonna message again on Friday like nothing happened.

Post: #2

2nd approach on Tuesday.
2#
2 Spanish girls. Around 20. 1 kinda chubby but with lovely tits and other one with nice butt but kinda flat. They were sat at the table and I approached asking them "so you 2 are just sitting there or dancing as well?" They were like "yeah we're dancing". I grab one and dance with her and make a smalltalk. Then she says that I should dance with her friend too. I end up fooling with them, dancing with both at the same time. It's really easy to do kino.
Then I talk with them a bit in between songs.

Boobs Girl 1: goo kino, she comes over and I make her turn around and then laugh at her when shes confused. Make her guess my age and then when she's right I touch her nose to make sure she's not a witch. She asks a lot of stuff about me and seems to be the nice girl.

Nice ass girl 2: we dance and bachata comes up, I don't dance it so no idea but she shows me. She puts my hand on her hip, kinda low maybe 4 inches from her pussy and almost leans a bit against me. Very chatty and smiley overall.

At this point I'm confused because I could pull them both but which one do I ask for the number? I'm thinking maybe add both to fb and decide later?

Anyway their ride is leaving as well so they almost run out after her but before they do they both hug me and the boobs girl asks if I'm coming next week. I say I do. That night I get a dream about 3someing them!

Observations:
Responsive girls. Very easy to get on a good side. Maybe I should've escalated a bit more and asked both to hang out during the weekend. I made sure not to fall into friend category. My indecisiveness proved to be my weakness. Should've gone for the one that tingled my dick more. If I see them again I'll escalate quickly. They seem like girls who wouldn't mind fucking the same guy.

Post: #3

2 girls at the salsa party.
3#
I'm walking past those 2 girls and can't help but notice that I think I know this girl. I stop and say " I think I know yo u from somehwhere" and shes like "possible". I engage a small talk. She's like a 6 her friend is very hot in a very strange way, maybe a 8. Black hair, very dark eyes and Romanian looking face. Sort of primal look. Great ass and tits and the outfit she wears just highlights these. To be honest I got intimidated by her looks a bit. She didn't seem very impressed by my approach and was just chilling. I ask the 6 if she wants to dance and she's like OK but a bachata song comes up and I cant dance so I just say "next one". I excuse myself. Later on I actually get to dance with the 8. Holy fuk she's super hot but looks to be approaching 30. After smalltalk I find she's Italian. She smiles at me and that makes her look even cuter. After the song the awkwardness comes, we just kinds stand there and then I tell her thanks for the dance. She squeezes my hand and I sort of caress her upper arm and excuse myself. I chickened out of this one. Basically she was too hot and I wasn't prepared and cool enough. Later when she leaves with the 6 girl she looks at me in passing and I give her a nod. After our dance with 8 I noticed an orbiter who came with her was giving me some mean eyes. I know that he was an orbiter because before he left he gave her sorta awkward hug.

Observations:
The 6 was friendly, I remember now that I chatted to her a bit few months back at a salsa party. This time I should've waited for the bachata song to pass and get her to dance and befriend her. The other girl would naturally fall into the convo once I neutralised he 6. I could at least make an opening for the next time. If I see her again I'll MAKE myself escalate with her. The funny thing is that I noticed not too many guys asking her to dance. I guess they were intimidated to dance with her? She wasnt great but not bad either at dancing.

Post: #4

Girl at the club
4#
Hot 7 girl at the bar, a 3 set. I open her about the flowers she got. She seems nice and chats a little. I ask where she got them and she mentions downstairs. I ask her for them and she gives them to me. I turn around to my 2 guys and 1 says that she looks better in them. I tell her that and she kind of laughs. I was rather taken a back a bit. It looks like I get this blockade to escalate wth hot women after initial interaction.
Later on caught up with the girl again but she was on the way out. Didn't get a number or anything.

Observations: she was very receptive and I could've at least gotten a mobile number. I think part of it was the fact that my boys were around so I was afraid to get turned down.

#5
Another hot brunette 7.5/8 with her short female friend 6. They were dancing around us for a while. She shot down 1 creep guy in our group and kept on dancing. I open her short friend and she says that "do you like my friend? I've seen you looking a her". I was like "yeah she's quite the looker" snd she introduces me to her. We shake hands and she gives me a dead fish hand. I neg her on that and taunt her "cmon give me a real handshake" while holding her hand. Looks like she doesn't understand what I want and tries to move off. I kiss her hand (no idea why it just felt right at the time) and she gives me that cheeky grin and a peck on the cheek and then leaves to her friends. Later on I danced with her a bit more but doesnt seem like I could get her interested. She left with her friend.

Observation: seems like I can open them but have trouble escalating.

Post: #5

(11-05-2015 07:12 AM)Hairz Wrote:  She was into me from the start and liked my touching. I could probably go with her to eat and end up banging but I wanted to dance more that night. I think her friend told her that I was talking to other girls. She replied immediately that night but didn't reply at all next day. Gonna message again on Friday like nothing happened.

I think the general consensus here is that taking her somewhere to eat after a night of drinking is a good way of killing any chance you had at sleeping with her that night, she ends up getting tired afterwards and just wants to sleep.

If a 6 does not respond to your texts because her friend said you were talking to other girls after she left, who cares. What are you supposed to do, sit by yourself because you met an average girl earlier? Its Saturday now, did she respond to the message you sent on Friday?

Post: #6

Sent the #1 girl reset txt. She replied like 5x saying she was busy moving etc but we can reschedule for next week.

Post: #7

Nice. I'll be checking this for updates.

Post: #8

Saturday night
#6
Opened a set of 4 Polish women walking by with a newfound friend.1 of them said something and I responded in Polish. They were bewildered as hell. 3 were at around 6-7 lookswise and 1 was a low 5. The 5 asked us where we were headed to. Made a smalltalk while we walked but then they stopped to see some guys wearing pink clothes (gay bars road) and we just kept going.

Observations:
They were so surprised that their defences were down. What are the odds of meeting a polish guy in leeds and have him open them on the street? Should've stayed with them but my buddy and me were heading to a club where his tinder date was with some gfs. Fairly good experience, just shows that the shock can work in my favour.


I tend not to notice things while they happen right there, only revisiting them later shows those. I guess with more approaches I'll learn to see the stuff like that right away.

Post: #9

That shock thing makes sense. A buddy and I were walking around and passed one of those girls that tries to pull you into a strip club. She was babbling in English and I dropped "sexy ass" in Polish. She just went silent. I started laughing my ass off and kept walking. The things you learn at a Polish wedding.

Post: #10

Nice work man, gonna keep tabs on this thread.

Post: #11

Salsa class
#7
I see this brunette maybe 6.5, slim and I think I've danced with her before but she was cold. This time I said hi and was like "I've seen you somewhere before" with thinking face on. She was like "yeah last Wednesday". We chat a bit and then the class starts. She asks on like 3 different occasions where I go dancing. She's not asking where the good places are.

I tell her about my move to the city next week and she sounds impressed because it's expensive to live in the city.

During the class everytime we rotate she kind of shows her disappointment like "ahh" sigh thing. We dance 1 song at the end of first class and then tell her "come let's grab some water" and pull her by her hand. We sit down and talk like 15min. During that time I neg her a bit and joke around. I noticed that I was quite cocky with her and she joked that she's gonna lunch me when I said something outrageous. Then we go for another class. Same thing as with first class. After 2nd class we dance a bit and then go get water. I ask where she lives and she tells me the place which is near mine. I tell her that I can drop her off. She sort of goes "oh no need" but then agrees. I tell her that we should have few more dances and then go. We do and she kinda smacks me on my ass twice by accident. I tell her to watch it and I make a joke "maybe I shouldn't be driving you home after all".

We leave the venue and I drive her off. When were there I ask her for the number. She tries to say it and I hand her the phone and say "chop chop". I ask for the surname and she asks "you want my surname too?". I reply "yeah I'm gonna stalk you online" with a grin.

She thanks me, leaves and waves.


Observations:
Fun girl. We connected and she's kinda hot. I'd defo bang her. I noticed few shit tests that she gave me at the time but didn't don't remember now what they were. I mostly A&A'ed or raised my brow once or twice and just laughed. Once or twice she gave me the look that goes from 1 side across you to the other side when we were dancing. Can't describe it properly but it looks kinda sexy.

I msged her "hey its your taxi driver, you live like 3min drive from my place"
She replies with "excellent"
I reply with "cool time to sleep nite".

Don't think I should've sent the last msg. Oh well gonna see her later this week and possibly ask her out then in person.

Post: #12

Did few approaches in the night club but nothing worth mentioning. I was sober and the girls were drunk. Got shut down few times like straight away. Other few approaches were kinda me, small talk and nothing more.

Realised just how much more I've got to learn.

Post: #13

A club
#8
Nice blonde with big ass in leather pants, solid 7. She was with her fatty friend. The were dancing near us and I could see her giving me the eyes once or twice.
I notice they went to the bar and chilled there for like 20min.I go get a coke and the blonde laughs and looks at me in passing. I opened with "what's funny". She said blab blah and then they took a selfie I joked about it. They were like "oh no its a video" and we chatted some more. They gave me a shot of red stuff and it wasn't bad. I caught up with them later and offered to get them a shot each for the previous one but they didn't want to. I danced with the blonde a bit salsa. Then asked for a number and she said that she's got a bf. I responded with "I know you only few mins and you already talk about your problems with me" and said we could dance more salsa. She laughed but said no she won't gimme number but said that I seem like a really nice guy whatever that means.

Observations:
Easily opened them. Should've chatted a bit more at the bar. Maybe got them a drink in response too. I don't think I built enough attraction to get the number as I spoke with her only like 10min. She was asking questions tho so was interested for sure.

Post: #14

The same night as #8. Few small talks with women such as asking a girl at the bar where she got the hat etc. Nothing really worth talking about. I still find myself afraid of escalating the conversation after initial opener. Moving to the city centre this Thursday so I'll be out more.

My friend introduced me to an Indian girl, a good 7. I'm not a huge fan of Indian women but she was kinda hot. He met a Latvian, a 6 but chubby (could be 8 if she lost 10kg) on tinder and took her on 2 dates and this girl came wth the Indian. The Indian girl was all over me from the start pretty much, some dude was chatting her up and after a minute or so she pointed me and said I was her bf.
The Latvian said that she's gonna tell me something but I can't be arrogant about it. She said that she knows many Polish men but I'm by far the most handsome one. I just chuckled at it and was pretty flattered.
Some dude was chatting her up a some point and after she blew him off I asked "any luck there?" and she says that he told her that she's beautiful. I said "but you are" and she blushed a little. I said "but this sort of pickup line doesn't work does it? Guys show you all their cards straight away, no mystery". She says "no British guy would say something like that". I felt like fucking around with her a bit with this kind of stuff.

We left later on, I had the feeling that the Latvian wanted to fuck me, I made a joke about her giving me her nice red coat and she goes "it wouldn't fit you, you look quite muscular". At the end of the night I didn't get laid with the Indian girl. The Latvian didn't wanna sleep with my friend and she took Indian girl too. Maybe she wanted to keep me for herself.
The Indian girl lives in another city so I don't think I'll get to bang her. Got her number but she seems to be an insecure weirdo saying things such as that it talking with her only to be nice or because my friend asked me to.

This night I got much more attention than usual. The only thing I did was not jerking off for like 4 days, bit of phenibut and enjoying myself. Gotta do more of that!

Post: #15

Last weekend. Couple of uneventful approaches.

#9 my house party drinks then the city
Hit off with girl - a 7ish brunette with nice ass. I barely knew from dance classes but i invited her for drinks at mine along with other people and kissed her later on, held hand on her ass etc until she freaked out randomly with "I'm not a slag you know, just because I'm leaving to London in 2 months doesn mean I'll sleep with you tonight" and started giving me shit about kissing her roughly few minutes prior. I tried to de escalate by saying that I'm just having fun tonight and as she kept pushing I told her that I don't need to have sex with her and if she doesn't like me kissing me she should've pushed me away then not talk crap now.

Funny thing is prior to that flip out like 5min earlier she asked me what I liked to do to girls in bed. I replied with "many things" and she pushed again and I was like "I like to fuck them rough" and she laughed. I went cold on her and then later on she tried to re-engage but I was pissed by that point. At the end she ended up just begging for attention. We were in a small circle maybe 6 people and she just came up to me and was dancing in front of me and looking at me. I was against the bar so I acknowledged her but didn't dance with her jus kinda moved a little - about as much as before she came over.

I left with my bro and another girl to mine because they left their stuff there. The #9 msged me "where are you" and I replied that I went home to get other people stuff. The club was 10min walk from my place. She said that everyone's gone and she's outside. I replied that I was going back. By the time she replied she was already in taxi. No contact since that night.

Observations:
Was quite tipsy, my bro tried to steal her but I shut him down. Just told him good luck. I half did it for the sport tbh.
The girl was very responsive, she let me touch her hands etc, then have my hand on her ass on the top and kissing. She told me that she likes me and then said that we talked on tinder few months back but my game was complete shit then. We kissed a bit but not crazy amount and she got me 2 drinks.
Everything was going lovely but her ASD kicked in before I even did anything remotely sexual. If she flipped out like this at my place I'd kick her out right away. She's defo a crazie. Not sure if I should reengage next time I see her in dance classes casually as if nothing happened.
Next night I spoke with another girl who was there and saw that I couldn't keep my hands off her. I asked if it looked creepy and she said nope she just said I looked like on fire whatever that means. Apparently the brunette kept asking her what sort of guy I am and what this girl thinks of me - that good ol' preselection.

#10 Italian girl
Same night as #9, after she flipped out and before she danced in front of me. This one was like 6.5 but I felt like I could try. Little talk and I ask for mob. She's got bf so I hit her with "I know you 5min and you're already talking about your issues" and she resists and I kinda push a little more. She says that she can teach me Italian and I'm like "sure why not" and I'm thinking "however you want to justify possibly meeting and fucking me".

Observations:
Easily opened, I didn't give a damn and was approaching her to get something that night and for the other chick to see me talking to other girls too. Weak defense with bf stuff, could be shroedinger bf. Still got to msg her.

Post: #16

Next night a lot of small talks with girls, it's becoming easy to open them just say something to get their attention - even I'm gay would work tbh.

#11 sat night
3 blondes at the bar ranging from 6 to 7.5. 1 is dancing and pulling up her dress. I thought it was a top but it's the actual dress. All I see is tiny thong. My friend is near and sees it and laughs. I'm like "was I staring?" And he's like YES. Some beta provider bought them a champagne, I cringed hard. He didn't know them.
OK so 1 other blonde bends over at the chair and other 2 spank her ass. I kind of mention "you 3 need a 3some" and I rink she understood it as them 2 and me. She grabs my face and her friends that was spanking other girl and 3 way kisses me and her.
I'm like whaaat just happened? And he kisses me with her tongue for like 5 sec. I was quite shocked honestly. I got a kiss off her again and got a nice ass squeeze too and went like "you got an - all right body" and she chuckled. I turn around to give my friend money for the pint and they're gone. I find them later as they're leaving but didn't manage to get them.

So yes boys I missed an opportunity to fuck 3 blondes or at least the one that made out with me.

Observations:
I just stood there are she wanted a dick and I guess she happened to like me. I could probably hang her friend - the one that bentover coz she gave me sexy eyes few times. The blonde with her dress up was quite drunk though, not quite the "rape level" drunk but obviously pretty done already. Her friends were much more sober. I was quit tipsy myself so didn't realize it then. Funny night regardless.

Oh and I got hit on by like 4 dudes that night too. I guess I must have a good dress sense.

Post: #17

Supermarket
#12
I'm searching for tea and there's this fairly cute shop assistant. She's cutting the plastic off cans. The knife looks kinda funny so I make a comment "that's an interesting looking knife" . She smiles and continues doing her work. I carry on with my business.

Guess she was busy.