Post: #1

Here's a detailed article about what happened:

'Talk your own language, f***ing Isis b****es': Mother with a PRAM launches vile racist rant at two Muslim women on a London bus

Quote:A racist woman taunted Muslim passengers on a London bus calling them 'Isis b****es'.

In what appears to have started because two of the Muslim women were speaking their own language, the foul-mouthed woman, who had a child in a pram with her, goes on an ignorant rant in front of the whole bus.

Around five minutes of the incident was caught on camera and uploaded to Facebook by Mico Abrigo.

The black woman, who appears to be extremely annoyed by the Muslims on the 206 bus, shouts: 'Talk your f***ing language. Keep laughing. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. With your bombs hiding underneath your clothes.

'I don't f***ing like you people because you're f***ing rude. You come to England and you have no f***ing manners. Go back to your f***ing country where they are bombing every day, don't come here where we are free.'

When one of the Muslim women tries to reply to her, the racist woman says: 'Shut your mouth'.

Another woman sitting at the front of the bus intervenes, but the animated and very angry woman resorted to more abuse.

She said: 'F***ing sandbags. F***ing Isis bitches.'

The bus driver then intervenes and tells everyone to relax, but the abuse still carries on.

At one point, the child who the black woman is with, appears to ask what is happening.

Crouching down to speak to the baby, she replies: 'What happened? What happened? Isis got into the country, that's what happened.'

The woman then stares at her victims, as the other passengers sit silently.

But it only took a matter of seconds of silence, before the woman went on another rant at her targets.

She said: 'Have you both got the same husband? Have you? Are you still sleeping with the same man? Is that how it works?'

She points to another Muslim woman at the front of the bus, saying: 'Are you sleeping with her husband? Do all your kids live in the same house together?

'Dirty, dirty people. All that living together, all that 20,000 wives - I think that's disgusting.'

The Muslim women try to ignore her by speaking among themselves, in their own language, as she carries on ranting and pointing.

But she waded in with threats of violence to get their attention again.

She said: 'I will kick you in the stomach. I will pull that down and kick you, so you never have a kid again. I will donkey kick you. It will be the first time I've ever resorted to violence in public.'

One of the Muslim women can be heard asking her to 'finish' and 'stop', but she replied: 'Make me stop. Make me stop.'

At this point the bus driver got out of his cabin and asked everyone to 'relax' but he seemed overwhelmed by the incident and returned to drive the vehicle.

The woman carried on: 'You shouldn't even be in this country. You're lucky I don't work for immigration, I would run the flipping ... erm ... what do you call it?... Thing.'

As more people make their voices heard, the woman shouts: 'You're the devil. You're an Isis b****.'

A Muslim woman and child walked to the back of the bus and had 'Isis, Isis, Isis' barked in their faces.

After verbally abusing the Muslims on the bus and threatening them with violence, she then took out her phone and recorded them.

One woman was not happy about being filmed and tried to take the phone out of her hand. Three times the verbal attacker shouted at her: 'Touch me again, I'll punch you in the head.'

'Dirty sandbags, dirty sandbags', she continued. '

The bus driver was forced to get out of his cabin for a second time in a bid to diffuse the situation and again repeatedly shouted 'relax', as the video recording came to an end.

The footage of the incident, which took place on Tuesday, has been shared on Facebook more than 14,000 times.

Mike Weston, TfL's Director of Buses said: 'This behaviour is completely unacceptable and will not be tolerated on our network.

'Passengers who use our services should be allowed to do so without fear of abuse and we are working closely with Metroline and the police to fully investigate this incident.

'Crime on the bus network is now at its lowest ever level and we will continue to work with our policing partners to further reduce crime and anti-social behaviour.'

A spokesman for Metropolitan Police said: 'Officers from the Brent Safer Transport Team are investigating video footage which shows a racist incident taking place on a Route 206 bus at around 10.30am on Tuesday.

'The bus was travelling along Knatchbull Road, Brent at the time of the incident.

'Inquiries are ongoing. Anyone who has information that may assist investigation, or was on the bus when the footage was taken, is asked to call the Metropolitan Police Service via 101 or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.'

Of course "some" people are shocked:

Quote:Footage showing a woman's anti-Muslim tirade on a London bus has prompted a discussion about the fact that the abusive woman is black.
....

Of course, racist monologues directed towards other passengers on public transport and posted to social media are nothing new. But this particular incident stands out because those sharing and commenting have focussed on the fact that the perpetrator of the abuse is black. The woman, who has not been identified, has a London accent, and many comments about the video concentrate on her ethnic origin.

"I don't understand how second/third/generation immigrants can say things like 'go back to your own country' when that is the kind of prejudice that our ancestors faced," one ethnic minority Londoner commented. "As a black man I feel shame, how anyone of colour can tell another 'go back to ur country'... Coz in a hot min it will b said to her," wrote another.

"She's going on like she's English herself. Go back to your country and we will go back to ours," commented one user from a Muslim background. "Wasn't a white women this time, turns out people from other races have a nasty racist streak in them," commented another user.

How shocking...racism exists in all cultures...

Post: #2

I don't see the problem here. We've been reliably informed that only white people can be racist.
Ergo, this woman's comment wasn't racist at all, and she's fully justified in saying whatever she likes.

Post: #3

Black women on the bus have strong opinions

Post: #4

Just like Rosa Parks standing up against oppression.

Post: #5

Not white, not racist.

Now had it been a white person, then this would be terribly racist!

By the way, does she have a stroller with her?

Post: #6

(10-16-2015 01:23 PM)Mike5055 Wrote:  Not white, not racist.

Now had it been a white person, then this would be terribly racist!

By the way, does she have a stroller with her?

Yeah, her kid is in the stroller.

Post: #7

A fitting mother of the modern day!

Poor kid doesn't stand a chance.

Post: #8

Another aticle about womynz being womynz...

Post: #9

That is the most prim and proper black lady I've ever heard.

Something about the English accent makes them very non-threatening. It almost seems like a pleasant discourse over tea with a few "fucks" thrown in.

Post: #10

Hooray for multiculturalism!

Seriously though, she should be commended for having the guts to confront people in public like that. You can call her uppity, ratchet, whatever you want, but she's got more balls than the men who are too afraid and cucked to speak out against the migrant invasion.

Post: #11

(10-16-2015 02:00 PM)Veloce Wrote:  Hooray for multiculturalism!

Seriously though, she should be commended for having the guts to confront people in public like that. You can call her uppity, ratchet, whatever you want, but she's got more balls than the men who are too afraid and cucked to speak out against the migrant invasion.

I'll bet you on a bus in the not so distant past, a white woman was doing this to a black immigrant just like her. The irony is hilarious.

Post: #12

(10-16-2015 02:00 PM)Veloce Wrote:  Hooray for multiculturalism!

Seriously though, she should be commended for having the guts to confront people in public like that. You can call her uppity, ratchet, whatever you want, but she's got more balls than the men who are too afraid and cucked to speak out against the migrant invasion.

Well exactly.

I'm glad to see she's picked the right side, hopefully more of the black British community will realise that Islam poses as much risk to them as it does to anyone.

Post: #13

(10-16-2015 02:18 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 02:00 PM)Veloce Wrote:  Hooray for multiculturalism!

Seriously though, she should be commended for having the guts to confront people in public like that. You can call her uppity, ratchet, whatever you want, but she's got more balls than the men who are too afraid and cucked to speak out against the migrant invasion.

Well exactly.

I'm glad to see she's picked the right side, hopefully more of the black British community will realise that Islam poses as much risk to them as it does to anyone.

I get immigrants, but the real problems are these crazy ass sharia law protesting fuckers.

I'm not a Brit, from what it looks like, you guys have a big problem with this.

I'm curious, did the ease of immigration laws cause this ? Why is this fundamentalism different (it seems like)?

Post: #14

One minority woman attacking another, thus eroding the very fabric of the left's argument on racism, multiculturalism etc...

Post: #15

(10-16-2015 02:28 PM)Seth_Rose Wrote:  One minority woman attacking another, thus eroding the very fabric of the left's argument on racism, multiculturalism etc...

Was actually just thinking about this last night. Black people DNGAF about being PC. If Muslims try to create Sharia zones in the US the blacks will fuck them up so quickly. Also, imagine a muslim man attempting to correct a black women on behavior; record high PPV ratings.

Post: #16

(10-16-2015 02:21 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 02:18 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 02:00 PM)Veloce Wrote:  Hooray for multiculturalism!

Seriously though, she should be commended for having the guts to confront people in public like that. You can call her uppity, ratchet, whatever you want, but she's got more balls than the men who are too afraid and cucked to speak out against the migrant invasion.

Well exactly.

I'm glad to see she's picked the right side, hopefully more of the black British community will realise that Islam poses as much risk to them as it does to anyone.

I get immigrants, but the real problems are these crazy ass sharia law protesting fuckers.

I'm not a Brit, from what it looks like, you guys have a big problem with this.

I'm curious, did the ease of immigration laws cause this ? Why is this fundamentalism different (it seems like)?

Due to H1-B visa process for the US, most of the Muslims in the US tend to be on the smarter side. Most educated Muslims tend to more liberal in regards to their feeling about western culture. There are some uneducated Muslims in the US that came over as refugees e.g. Somalis, but their numbers are not large.

The Muslims in Europe were brought over for manual work, and are not educated. The Pakistani community in UK is mostly Mirpuri, and they’re one of the most backwards communities in Pakistan. Also, because of asylum laws, UK has had a lot of people coming over from the Middle East.

In the UK the blacks would get their arses kicked if they try to fuck with the Muslims. They're massively outnumbered.

Tensions between blacks and “Asians” (actually Pakistani Muslims) have been around for long time. Here’s an article from 2005, after race riots:

The new colour of British racism

Quote:Behind the riots lies vicious hostility between the Asian and African-Caribbean communities in Birmingham, reports crime correspondent Mark Townsend

@townsendmark

Saturday 29 October 2005 21.27 EDT

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe his compassion was exhausted, but the reality suggests that Makaveli had always disliked black people. Either way, within hours of arriving from Pakistan after helping survivors of the Asian earthquake, he was brawling with African-Caribbeans on the streets of Birmingham. It felt natural; all his friends agreed with him that these people were the lowest form of humanity.

'They come in our shops, but can't stop stealing something. Niggers can't help it, they have a dirty gene. They are the lowest of the low,' hissed Makaveli. The 26-year-old spat furiously at the pavement and nodded east along Lozells Road, beyond the huddle of Asian-owned shops, to where the Rastafarians sometimes gathered.

Inside Simply Veg, a group stood beside huge spears of sugarcane, papaya and jars of Ethiopian myrrh. The mood was tense, the talk of slavery, oppression, of a black community without hope. But their stories suddenly sounded different. Their oppressors were no longer solely white. Now they felt subjugated by another race; the Asians.

'We've had centuries of slavery. Now the Asians want to take over here,' said Rob, a Jamaican, slamming the grocery counter. 'Black people need a break, but things are getting bad.' Outside, across the bustling Lozells Road, down into the red-bricked terracing of the local estates, lies a reminder of what bad can actually mean. On the doorstep of 59 Carlyle Road, lilies and carnations smother a plastic sheet weighed down with bricks.

Here, 23-year-old Isiah Young-Sam was stabbed to death during last Saturday's race riots as he wandered home; the yellow petals are a dark pointer to the new reality of race crime in Britain. The worst riots to afflict Britain's second city for 20 years challenge the most fundamental assumption of multicultural Britain - that racism is principally a white vice. Almost 40 years after Enoch Powell talked of 'rivers of blood' just two miles from where Young-Sam was murdered, a community has broken down. Powell's inflammatory rhetoric warned that immigration would inspire strife, but few predicted that the immigrants would turn on each other.

Only a few experts had observed that the scramble for the scant resources of Britain's deprived inner cities was a catalyst for conflict between competing communities. For the vast majority, particularly the government, racism remained a strictly black and white issue. Even the Commission for Racial Equality has failed to research the issue of inter-ethnic racism. For its part, the Home Office is accused of ignoring repeated warnings of conflict between black and Asian communities from its most senior strategist into race relations.

Marian Fitzgerald, now a criminologist at the University of Kent, identified the fracture lines that led to last weekend's clashes, not just in Birmingham, but throughout the UK. The rioting around Lozells Road, which left two dead in more than 200 separate violent incidents, followed a single, still unsubstantiated, rumour that 18 Asian men had gang-raped a 14-year-old black girl in a beauty parlour.

The allegation may have been the catalyst, but in Lozells Road they had been predicting a bloody night for years. Thirteen months ago a message that appeared on a black website warned that 'Birmingham's Asian and ethnic African are becoming increasingly polarised'. The author felt Asians were becoming 'more aggressive' and that the 'daily spiritual, and sometimes physical, face-offs' between the two communities had left 'indelible scars on the soul'. Violence, the emailer concluded, was inevitable. For years Lozells had been hailed as a vibrant example of the melting pot that defines urban Britain. Yet for many who lived in the tight terracing north of Birmingham's bright new centre, the area had become a racial tinderbox.

As with most previous riots, the tension had its roots in the trivial. For the black community of north Birmingham it was the manner in which Asian shopkeepers handed back their change. Already smarting over the fact that most local businesses had been snapped up by Asian entrepreneurs, a common complaint among African-Caribbeans was the treatment by shopkeepers.

'They throw the change at us as if we're lower-class citizens'. Rob raised his left arm above his head and flung a 10p into his right palm. 'Like that. They won't even touch us.'

Those beside him in Simply Veg nodded. To the Asian community, such complaints are mired in envy. 'We can work 16-hour days. We pay tax. We own the shops. They're jealous,' Makaveli said.

That the everyday rituals of capitalism became such a source of discontent is apt; experts agree that the rioting stemmed from the economics of inequality. For decades, the African-Caribbean community watched as the Asian community bettered itself. Of the 50 or so stores on Lozells Road, 90 per cent are Asian-owned. But the competition runs deeper. Amid the deprivation of Lozells, the two communities scrap for dwindling government support in housing, jobs and community projects. Asian shopkeepers rarely employ blacks; similarly, the few African storeowners can wait days for the next Pakistani patron.

In response, the African-Caribbean community of Lozells is calling for a total boycott of Asian shops. Dani arrived in Birmingham from Jamaica in 1960. He remembers when he had Asian friends. 'They became millionaires, we became beggars,' the 65-year-old said wearily.

That community elders are encouraging tension is no surprise to those monitoring the situation. Frank Reeves, of Race Equality West Midlands, describes a meeting between community leaders last week that was riven by self-interest rather than reconciliation. A cycle of rumour, bigotry and suspicion has intensified in the wake of the riots. For every story of a black schoolboy beaten by 20 Asians there is one such as that from Makaveli's best friend, Abdul, whose brother was killed two years ago; caught in the crossfire of a shoot-out between black gangs in the nearby streets.

So endemic is gangland culture that when several doctors from the nearest hospital were required for front-line medical duty during the Iraq war, they already possessed the skills required for treating gunshot wounds.

Further violence appears a question of when, not if. 'I get the impression people are getting tooled up,' Reeves admits. The police presence suggests as much. Around 600 police a day have been drafted in to keep order on the maze of streets around Lozells Road. Recent website postings earmark Eid, the Asian festival this Friday that signals the end of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan, as a flashpoint.

One entrant on a black power website reads: 'Pakistanis are marked for death. The blacks have had enough of Pakistanis running things up there.' The bigotry is never exclusive. One Asian site glorifies the alleged rape: 'Big up the Pakis dat tapped the nigger bitch in Brumland. We had the upper hand on them ever since the abolishment of slavery.'

Even now, it is unclear where the rape allegation originated from. Suggestions that it was concocted by the black community are unconfirmed. What is certain is that the rumour was perfect for a riot; a poisonous Chinese whisper that gained horror and currency with every repeat. Reeves describes the allegation as a 'textbook classic' and that it was no accident it centred around a shop run by Asians selling black beauty products.

The supposed victim was an illegal immigrant who will not come forward, a detail that also tapped into African-Caribbeans disquiet over immigration laws. 'The British took us as slaves to the Caribbean and now they won't even let us in,' said Paul, 40.

Similarly, the allegation seemed to corroborate a long-standing suspicion among the black community that Asian men gang-rape their women. 'They have been raping black girls for centuries,' said Maxine Goldman, 28. 'They make them wear hijabs, wrapping them up to their eyeballs.'

Despite a police investigation finding no evidence of the rape, the black community is adamant it is true. In turn, the Asian community believes the 'rape' was conceived as an excuse to attack their shops.

Whatever proves true, half the community is complaining that its traditional voice - pirate radio - is being persecuted. DJ Warren G made the mistake of broadcasting the rape allegations he had heard in a barber's shop. The price would be personal - within days his former schoolfriend Young-Sam was dead - and professional as police continue to investigate claims that his repeating of a rumour was incitement to disorder.

But little may change; the 1985 riots in Handsworth proved that. The people of Lozells agree that the carnations of Carlyle Road will not be the last.

Post: #17

I love how the call people from the middle east asian. Is there a reason for this?

Is it because of everything east is automatically asian or do they really think we're all stupid and thing Huo Ming Cho is getting into fights with Major Lazer?

Post: #18

(10-16-2015 04:40 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  I love how the call people from the middle east asian. Is there a reason for this?

Is it because of everything east is automatically asian or do they really think we're all stupid and thing Huo Ming Cho is getting into fights with Major Lazer?

In the context of the article I pasted above Asian = Pakistanis. Pakistan is not in the Middle East.

There are more people from South Asia than East Asia in the UK, so "Asian" = India, Pakistan, Bangladeshi there.

Here's a map of Asia - it extends from Turkey to Indonesia and includes most of Russia:



The Middle East is in Asia...

Post: #19

Islam is not a race, it's a belief system.

So what exactly are we supposed to be outraged about here? That someone's receiving hate for nothing more than their beliefs? That's literally the defining feature of modern leftism, so cry me a fucking river.

At least, that's what I would have said when I still thought these people have 'beliefs' and feel 'outrage'... the very fact that they chose to turn some crazy bitch's rant on an inner-city bus into public news speaks for itself, however. They're more like Patrick Bateman:

(10-16-2015 04:40 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  I love how the call people from the middle east asian. Is there a reason for this?

Is it because of everything east is automatically asian or do they really think we're all stupid and thing Huo Ming Cho is getting into fights with Major Lazer?

No, it's because media in the UK is so unbelievably narrative-driven, they attempt to obscure uncomfortable patterns/information through linguistic sleight-of-hand at every juncture. The word "Asian" has undergone a semantic shift in the UK due to our media's constant bizarre usage over the last three decades - 80% of the time, it now means "Pakistani muslim".

Pakistani muslims have been a problem group in the UK, so by subsuming them into the much broader description of "Asian" in all news reports, they deny the British public the ability to accurately describe and understand their own problems. Hell, I've even heard it used to describe black, African muslims on occasion. The side effect is that in situations like this, where a muslim is actually the 'victim' (in inverted commas because I've been shouted at by crazy ghetto bitches on a bus before and didn't make the news somehow, can't think why), they're stuck using their own retarded-ly unspecific language to describe the situation.

Post: #20

(10-16-2015 02:40 PM)greekgod Wrote:  Was actually just thinking about this last night. Black people DNGAF about being PC. If Muslims try to create Sharia zones in the US the blacks will fuck them up so quickly. Also, imagine a muslim man attempting to correct a black women on behavior; record high PPV ratings.

Muslims are respected in the US black community, which has a sizable domestic muslim population. Ever heard of Malcolm X? Ali? Kareem?

Also, the thought of "Sharia zones" in the US or in Europe is kind of ridiculous. Most muslims in America don't want it. You'd have to be totally retarded to think that those who would want it, which are a very small proportion of that community, which is itself 1-2% of the population, could ever impose that. It's a kind of irrational phobia that's carefully crafted by the media and designed to focus the attention of gullible people away from the main problems in their society.

Post: #21

(10-16-2015 01:30 PM)Mike5055 Wrote:  A fitting mother of the modern day!

Poor kid doesn't stand a chance.

I wonder how long she's ever kept a man, probably a few hours at the most.

Post: #22

MTLer is either lying deliberately or simply uninformed.

51% of Muslims in the USA want Sharia and 60% of Muslim youth in the US are more loyal to ISLAM than the USA.

The problem is with the religion of Islam. Islam is a religion of war and conquest that promotes death to all non-Muslims.

Post: #23

The main problem in Britain is muslims. They rape british girls in mass, already have Sharia no-go zones in Sweden, Britain, Austria, etc, MTLer is a freaking troll.

There are even Sharia Zones in Minnesota.

Post: #24

(10-16-2015 08:43 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  MTLer is either lying deliberately or simply uninformed.

51% of Muslims in the USA want Sharia and 60% of Muslim youth in the US are more loyal to ISLAM than the USA.

I'm atheist but am skeptical of those high numbers. Korben, where are you sources for that information?

Post: #25

I despair for humanity after reading stories like the one you posted.

Are people that weak that they have to gang-up and violently act on their tribalistic beliefs?

In the words of George Carlin, "I've given up on my species."

(10-16-2015 04:10 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 02:21 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 02:18 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 02:00 PM)Veloce Wrote:  Hooray for multiculturalism!

Seriously though, she should be commended for having the guts to confront people in public like that. You can call her uppity, ratchet, whatever you want, but she's got more balls than the men who are too afraid and cucked to speak out against the migrant invasion.

Well exactly.

I'm glad to see she's picked the right side, hopefully more of the black British community will realise that Islam poses as much risk to them as it does to anyone.

I get immigrants, but the real problems are these crazy ass sharia law protesting fuckers.

I'm not a Brit, from what it looks like, you guys have a big problem with this.

I'm curious, did the ease of immigration laws cause this ? Why is this fundamentalism different (it seems like)?

Due to H1-B visa process for the US, most of the Muslims in the US tend to be on the smarter side. Most educated Muslims tend to more liberal in regards to their feeling about western culture. There are some uneducated Muslims in the US that came over as refugees e.g. Somalis, but their numbers are not large.

The Muslims in Europe were brought over for manual work, and are not educated. The Pakistani community in UK is mostly Mirpuri, and they’re one of the most backwards communities in Pakistan. Also, because of asylum laws, UK has had a lot of people coming over from the Middle East.

In the UK the blacks would get their arses kicked if they try to fuck with the Muslims. They're massively outnumbered.

Tensions between blacks and “Asians” (actually Pakistani Muslims) have been around for long time. Here’s an article from 2005, after race riots:

The new colour of British racism

Quote:Behind the riots lies vicious hostility between the Asian and African-Caribbean communities in Birmingham, reports crime correspondent Mark Townsend

@townsendmark

Saturday 29 October 2005 21.27 EDT

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe his compassion was exhausted, but the reality suggests that Makaveli had always disliked black people. Either way, within hours of arriving from Pakistan after helping survivors of the Asian earthquake, he was brawling with African-Caribbeans on the streets of Birmingham. It felt natural; all his friends agreed with him that these people were the lowest form of humanity.

'They come in our shops, but can't stop stealing something. Niggers can't help it, they have a dirty gene. They are the lowest of the low,' hissed Makaveli. The 26-year-old spat furiously at the pavement and nodded east along Lozells Road, beyond the huddle of Asian-owned shops, to where the Rastafarians sometimes gathered.

Inside Simply Veg, a group stood beside huge spears of sugarcane, papaya and jars of Ethiopian myrrh. The mood was tense, the talk of slavery, oppression, of a black community without hope. But their stories suddenly sounded different. Their oppressors were no longer solely white. Now they felt subjugated by another race; the Asians.

'We've had centuries of slavery. Now the Asians want to take over here,' said Rob, a Jamaican, slamming the grocery counter. 'Black people need a break, but things are getting bad.' Outside, across the bustling Lozells Road, down into the red-bricked terracing of the local estates, lies a reminder of what bad can actually mean. On the doorstep of 59 Carlyle Road, lilies and carnations smother a plastic sheet weighed down with bricks.

Here, 23-year-old Isiah Young-Sam was stabbed to death during last Saturday's race riots as he wandered home; the yellow petals are a dark pointer to the new reality of race crime in Britain. The worst riots to afflict Britain's second city for 20 years challenge the most fundamental assumption of multicultural Britain - that racism is principally a white vice. Almost 40 years after Enoch Powell talked of 'rivers of blood' just two miles from where Young-Sam was murdered, a community has broken down. Powell's inflammatory rhetoric warned that immigration would inspire strife, but few predicted that the immigrants would turn on each other.

Only a few experts had observed that the scramble for the scant resources of Britain's deprived inner cities was a catalyst for conflict between competing communities. For the vast majority, particularly the government, racism remained a strictly black and white issue. Even the Commission for Racial Equality has failed to research the issue of inter-ethnic racism. For its part, the Home Office is accused of ignoring repeated warnings of conflict between black and Asian communities from its most senior strategist into race relations.

Marian Fitzgerald, now a criminologist at the University of Kent, identified the fracture lines that led to last weekend's clashes, not just in Birmingham, but throughout the UK. The rioting around Lozells Road, which left two dead in more than 200 separate violent incidents, followed a single, still unsubstantiated, rumour that 18 Asian men had gang-raped a 14-year-old black girl in a beauty parlour.

The allegation may have been the catalyst, but in Lozells Road they had been predicting a bloody night for years. Thirteen months ago a message that appeared on a black website warned that 'Birmingham's Asian and ethnic African are becoming increasingly polarised'. The author felt Asians were becoming 'more aggressive' and that the 'daily spiritual, and sometimes physical, face-offs' between the two communities had left 'indelible scars on the soul'. Violence, the emailer concluded, was inevitable. For years Lozells had been hailed as a vibrant example of the melting pot that defines urban Britain. Yet for many who lived in the tight terracing north of Birmingham's bright new centre, the area had become a racial tinderbox.

As with most previous riots, the tension had its roots in the trivial. For the black community of north Birmingham it was the manner in which Asian shopkeepers handed back their change. Already smarting over the fact that most local businesses had been snapped up by Asian entrepreneurs, a common complaint among African-Caribbeans was the treatment by shopkeepers.

'They throw the change at us as if we're lower-class citizens'. Rob raised his left arm above his head and flung a 10p into his right palm. 'Like that. They won't even touch us.'

Those beside him in Simply Veg nodded. To the Asian community, such complaints are mired in envy. 'We can work 16-hour days. We pay tax. We own the shops. They're jealous,' Makaveli said.

That the everyday rituals of capitalism became such a source of discontent is apt; experts agree that the rioting stemmed from the economics of inequality. For decades, the African-Caribbean community watched as the Asian community bettered itself. Of the 50 or so stores on Lozells Road, 90 per cent are Asian-owned. But the competition runs deeper. Amid the deprivation of Lozells, the two communities scrap for dwindling government support in housing, jobs and community projects. Asian shopkeepers rarely employ blacks; similarly, the few African storeowners can wait days for the next Pakistani patron.

In response, the African-Caribbean community of Lozells is calling for a total boycott of Asian shops. Dani arrived in Birmingham from Jamaica in 1960. He remembers when he had Asian friends. 'They became millionaires, we became beggars,' the 65-year-old said wearily.

That community elders are encouraging tension is no surprise to those monitoring the situation. Frank Reeves, of Race Equality West Midlands, describes a meeting between community leaders last week that was riven by self-interest rather than reconciliation. A cycle of rumour, bigotry and suspicion has intensified in the wake of the riots. For every story of a black schoolboy beaten by 20 Asians there is one such as that from Makaveli's best friend, Abdul, whose brother was killed two years ago; caught in the crossfire of a shoot-out between black gangs in the nearby streets.

So endemic is gangland culture that when several doctors from the nearest hospital were required for front-line medical duty during the Iraq war, they already possessed the skills required for treating gunshot wounds.

Further violence appears a question of when, not if. 'I get the impression people are getting tooled up,' Reeves admits. The police presence suggests as much. Around 600 police a day have been drafted in to keep order on the maze of streets around Lozells Road. Recent website postings earmark Eid, the Asian festival this Friday that signals the end of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan, as a flashpoint.

One entrant on a black power website reads: 'Pakistanis are marked for death. The blacks have had enough of Pakistanis running things up there.' The bigotry is never exclusive. One Asian site glorifies the alleged rape: 'Big up the Pakis dat tapped the nigger bitch in Brumland. We had the upper hand on them ever since the abolishment of slavery.'

Even now, it is unclear where the rape allegation originated from. Suggestions that it was concocted by the black community are unconfirmed. What is certain is that the rumour was perfect for a riot; a poisonous Chinese whisper that gained horror and currency with every repeat. Reeves describes the allegation as a 'textbook classic' and that it was no accident it centred around a shop run by Asians selling black beauty products.

The supposed victim was an illegal immigrant who will not come forward, a detail that also tapped into African-Caribbeans disquiet over immigration laws. 'The British took us as slaves to the Caribbean and now they won't even let us in,' said Paul, 40.

Similarly, the allegation seemed to corroborate a long-standing suspicion among the black community that Asian men gang-rape their women. 'They have been raping black girls for centuries,' said Maxine Goldman, 28. 'They make them wear hijabs, wrapping them up to their eyeballs.'

Despite a police investigation finding no evidence of the rape, the black community is adamant it is true. In turn, the Asian community believes the 'rape' was conceived as an excuse to attack their shops.

Whatever proves true, half the community is complaining that its traditional voice - pirate radio - is being persecuted. DJ Warren G made the mistake of broadcasting the rape allegations he had heard in a barber's shop. The price would be personal - within days his former schoolfriend Young-Sam was dead - and professional as police continue to investigate claims that his repeating of a rumour was incitement to disorder.

But little may change; the 1985 riots in Handsworth proved that. The people of Lozells agree that the carnations of Carlyle Road will not be the last.