Post: #76

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/12/the_bro_...r_partner/


At this point, lesbian sex (the porny kind) is practically considered vanilla. But when it comes to two self-identified straight guys getting together, we tend to stiffen up, and not in the fun way.


The term “bro job” generally refers to sex acts taking place between heterosexual men. The phenomenon was recently explored by Dr. Jane Ward in her book Not Gay: Sex Between Straight White Men, who suggests it’s a lot more common than most people may think.

Sex therapist Susan Block agrees. “I hear about it going on in Saudi Arabia, in Latin America – I talk to guys from all over the world who are doing this. In all different cultures.”

Block explained to AlterNet that sexual activity between self-identifying straight males is one of the most common topics introduced during her therapy sessions with men.

“We’ve shut down on the phenomenon of male sexuality. Now, we’re starting to ease up on that natural fluidity of men. But it’s always been there,” she says. “Sometimes you hide it because you don’t want to suffer from society’s punishments.”

Of course, identity politics is a messy game. And while arousal makes up just one piece of the very complex puzzle that is sexual orientation, it is a major player. We’re quick to assign the “bisexual” label to those for which sexual arousal is not dictated by gender. But it’s not always a welcome title. “I am often forced to call myself ‘bi,’ but I rarely find labels appropriate,” says model Paul LaBlanc (a pseudonym).

As Block explains, sexual orientation goes a lot further than the sexual activities we engage in. “I think to a great degree when people think about their own sexual orientation, they’re thinking about their hopes and dreams for themselves in terms of love and romance. Not just sex.”

In her book, Ward insists that sex acts between men are not symptoms of a suppressed gay identity, but rather an example of the fluid nature of human sexuality. Still, some ask, why men?

Ward writes, “By understanding their same-sex sexual practice as meaningless, accidental, or even necessary, straight white men can perform homosexual contact in heterosexual ways.”

“Meaningless.” A hard word to sneak by a therapist. But this notion of meaninglessness may help explain what makes sex between men appealing. “Women are full of meaning,” says Block “One of the things that men like about other men is how meaningless it is. It’s just for fun.”

That’s not to say that men don’t crave intimacy – they do, in its place. But Block suggests that for men looking for free, no-strings-attached sex, a male partner may be their best bet. Removing sex from its prescribed context is often discouraged in heterosexual relationships. If you’re looking to have sex for sport, doing it with another man might make some sense.




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Professional dominatrix Sandra LaMorgese once told AlterNet, “I’m dominant in every aspect of life but I’m not going to have a submissive partner. I need someone to dominate me. That way I get the balance too.” LaMorgese refers to herself as an “alpha submissive.” It’s an experience that many men crave as well. And some will step outside the bounds of gender to achieve it.

LaBlanc explains, “I tend strongly towards being dominant with women and submissive with men. Not totally in either direction, it’s not that simple… But it is clear that I take on different roles with different genders.”

“To me, no man has the soft indescribable beauty of a woman. And no woman can ‘take me’ the way a man can.”

There are other reasons self-identified straight men might have sex with each other. Block explained that some men are looking for the BDSM element, which can involve humiliation by means of another penis, a larger penis. There’s the curiosity bit, the desire to be with someone ‘who looks like me.’ There’s also mutual masturbation. And then there’s the simple fact that males manifest their sexual excitement in much more obvious ways than women, and that’s something a lot of guys find arousing, even relieving. Of course, condensing the scope of sexual desire isn’t something that can be done in a thousand words or so.






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The recent wave of interest in this not-so-recent phenomenon says something about the our current sexual climate. We can now admit that “bro jobs” are happening, and happening often. Though where they take place is often indicative of how people expect others to digest the news of these rendezvous. “I hear a lot about secrets,” says Block.

The fact that society is starting to have more open discussions about sex is good. The fact that society only wants to discuss certain kinds of sex leaves something to be desired. But if we take a step back we might find that what traditionalists deem “unnatural” sexual behavior (i.e. anything outside the confines of heterosexual marriage) can be fairly intrinsic. However those participating in them want to self-identify is up to them.

Block suggests we take a look at our closest “kissing cousins,” the Bonobo. In her book, The Bonobo Way: The Evolution of Peace Through Pleasure, Block explains that the apes often engage in what’s known as “penis fencing,” whereby two males will rub their erect penises against each other’s.

She told us, “They stop each other from killing each other by rub rub rubbing, until they come come come. And then have a banana together or something,” adding, “I think there’s a very positive and certainly very natural aspect to this.”

Post: #77

This article is written by a woman who is likely a feminist.. It is not natural at all for hetro men to have gay sex. So I am thinking it may be another social engineering propaganda piece.

Post: #78

Post: #79

TG/DR

(Too Gay/Didn't Read)

Post: #80

Nope, not going to happen. A straight man isn't going to just magically turn gay. Sad!

Post: #81

Quote:Sex therapist Susan Block agrees. “I hear about it going on in Saudi Arabia, in Latin America – I talk to guys from all over the world who are doing this. In all different cultures.”

Who are these people?

Every 'sex therapist' I've seen have been funky, weird people. Their columns on sex advice in tabloids generally boil down to "ask her what she wants and don't be afraid of trying new things (like allowing your girl to shove a cucumber up your ass while licking her feet)".

They would undoubtedly blanch at the hair pulling, spanking and face-fucking (among other dominant and assertive behaviors that enables female arousal) that most RVF members would deem a jolly good standard rogering.

Post: #82

This story just reinforces the flaws of the whole concept of "sexual orientation." What matters is not what you're attracted to or how you "feel," but what you do. There's no difference between a guy having gay sex who lusts over other guys, or who is doing it reluctantly or out of obligation. The act, not the feelings, is what's really relevant.

I have Christian friends who experience same-sex attraction, but choose not to act on it. I don't even consider them to be "gay," really.

But this idea is a dire threat to SJWs who rely on a homosexual "identity" as their cultural battering ram. To acknowledge obvious reality would completely defenestrate their identity politics because homosexual attraction would cease to be an identity, and become just another inclination, like how some have a greater tendency toward alcoholism or risky/violent behavior than others.

Post: #83

You mean you had a conversation with a buncha fags, that trolled you by saying they were straight.

Post: #84

(06-25-2016 05:16 AM)tanner Wrote:  This article is written by a woman who is likely a feminist.. It is not natural at all for hetro men to have gay sex. So I am thinking it may be another social engineering propaganda piece.

No shit.

Post: #85

Post: #86

Well, a straight man whos getting pussy on the regular is never going to visit a "sex-therapist".

"Oh yeah, im totally not gay bro, its not gay sex if you are not gay. Yeah, of course, keep sucking man"

Post: #87

(06-25-2016 05:12 AM)tanner Wrote:  http://www.salon.com/2015/10/12/the_bro_...r_partner/

This is from Salon, huh? The Marxism will be strong with this one.

Quote:At this point, lesbian sex (the porny kind) is practically considered vanilla. But when it comes to two self-identified straight guys getting together, we tend to stiffen up, and not in the fun way.

And I was right. Look at that neo-Frankfurt School sexuality being pushed in the very first paragraph.

Quote:The term “bro job” generally refers to sex acts taking place between heterosexual men. The phenomenon was recently explored by Dr. Jane Ward in her book Not Gay: Sex Between Straight White Men, who suggests it’s a lot more common than most people may think.

Why the focus on the sexuality of white men? Could it be they are trying to promote something? Take a statistically insignificant occurrence and exaggerate it to promote something they want to see. Surely not Salon! And surely not because they hate heterosexuality and whiteness. Not Salon!

Quote:Sex therapist Susan Block agrees. “I hear about it going on in Saudi Arabia, in Latin America – I talk to guys from all over the world who are doing this. In all different cultures.”

((Susan Block)) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Block

Didn't know you could make a profession in academia from being a slut. Given she promotes stuff like this, could it be she's being ((enabled))? Also, notice the deliberate lack of her age being listed and a photo that was uploaded in 2009 but is almost certainly older. She's got to be at least 58. Seems she or her fans are a little sensitive about the age issue.

Quote:Block explained to AlterNet that sexual activity between self-identifying straight males is one of the most common topics introduced during her therapy sessions with men.

No, bitch. Those aren't straight men. Those are fags in denial.

Quote:“We’ve shut down on the phenomenon of male sexuality. Now, we’re starting to ease up on that natural fluidity of men. But it’s always been there,” she says. “Sometimes you hide it because you don’t want to suffer from society’s punishments.”

Oh, the sexually "fluid" argument again. Wait a second, aren't homos, dykes, and trannies to be given special treatment because they're "born that way?" Which one is it?

And what fucking punishment is there in our current society for not being straight? It's well established that any sexual deviation is rewarded, not punished in our current social climate.

Quote:Of course, identity politics is a messy game. And while arousal makes up just one piece of the very complex puzzle that is sexual orientation, it is a major player. We’re quick to assign the “bisexual” label to those for which sexual arousal is not dictated by gender. But it’s not always a welcome title. “I am often forced to call myself ‘bi,’ but I rarely find labels appropriate,” says model Paul LaBlanc (a pseudonym).

Here's an appropriate label for you, "Paul:" gay.

Quote:As Block explains, sexual orientation goes a lot further than the sexual activities we engage in. “I think to a great degree when people think about their own sexual orientation, they’re thinking about their hopes and dreams for themselves in terms of love and romance. Not just sex.”

In her book, Ward insists that sex acts between men are not symptoms of a suppressed gay identity, but rather an example of the fluid nature of human sexuality. Still, some ask, why men?

Ward writes, “By understanding their same-sex sexual practice as meaningless, accidental, or even necessary, straight white men can perform homosexual contact in heterosexual ways.”

“Meaningless.” A hard word to sneak by a therapist. But this notion of meaninglessness may help explain what makes sex between men appealing. “Women are full of meaning,” says Block “One of the things that men like about other men is how meaningless it is. It’s just for fun.”

That’s not to say that men don’t crave intimacy – they do, in its place. But Block suggests that for men looking for free, no-strings-attached sex, a male partner may be their best bet. Removing sex from its prescribed context is often discouraged in heterosexual relationships. If you’re looking to have sex for sport, doing it with another man might make some sense.

Nope, not pushing an agenda at all.

Quote:There are other reasons self-identified straight men might have sex with each other. Block explained that some men are looking for the BDSM element, which can involve humiliation by means of another penis, a larger penis. There’s the curiosity bit, the desire to be with someone ‘who looks like me.’ There’s also mutual masturbation. And then there’s the simple fact that males manifest their sexual excitement in much more obvious ways than women, and that’s something a lot of guys find arousing, even relieving. Of course, condensing the scope of sexual desire isn’t something that can be done in a thousand words or so.

Ah, no. There are no reasons why straight men have sex with each other for sexual pleasure, because an actually straight man wouldn't have sex with a man unless being coerced, desperate for money, or raped.

Quote:The recent wave of interest in this not-so-recent phenomenon says something about the our current sexual climate. We can now admit that “bro jobs” are happening, and happening often. Though where they take place is often indicative of how people expect others to digest the news of these rendezvous. “I hear a lot about secrets,” says Block.

Typical leftist tactic. Write article about a subject that pushes the Narrative, a subject that is almost wholly invented out of thin air, laud it, then self-refer the article as proof the Narrative "happens, and happens often."

Quote:The fact that society is starting to have more open discussions about sex is good. The fact that society only wants to discuss certain kinds of sex leaves something to be desired. But if we take a step back we might find that what traditionalists deem “unnatural” sexual behavior (i.e. anything outside the confines of heterosexual marriage) can be fairly intrinsic. However those participating in them want to self-identify is up to them.

As opposed to the sexual behavior Social Justice scum deem unnatural -- like standard male heterosexuality?

Quote:Block suggests we take a look at our closest “kissing cousins,” the Bonobo. In her book, The Bonobo Way: The Evolution of Peace Through Pleasure, Block explains that the apes often engage in what’s known as “penis fencing,” whereby two males will rub their erect penises against each other’s.

She told us, “They stop each other from killing each other by rub rub rubbing, until they come come come. And then have a banana together or something,” adding, “I think there’s a very positive and certainly very natural aspect to this.”

Oh the Bonobos - that shining example that proves the feminist sexual utopia of gender and sexual fluidity to be true. Except... for the Bonobos being an evolutionary dead end, one of the least numerous primate species still in existence and that due to the Bonobos own cultural patterns, and that it took decades for scientists to recognize Bonobos as a separate species. It used to be thought that a Bonobo was just a really weak, pussy kind of Chimpanzee.


Tl;dr Fuck Salon and their push to normalize disturbing sexual pathologies.

Post: #88

(06-25-2016 10:36 AM)Germanicus Wrote:  

Quote:Sex therapist Susan Block agrees. “I hear about it going on in Saudi Arabia, in Latin America – I talk to guys from all over the world who are doing this. In all different cultures.”

((Susan Block)) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Block

She's got tranny face.

Post: #89

This is dupey as hell: /thread-51047.html

Post: #90

What exactly the fuck is Salon? Why do I get the feeling they basically put a bunch of the most fucked up individuals they can find on a massive acid trip, hand them a laptop, and say: "OK, type the most anti-social, fucked up shit you can possibly conjure up in your head, our editor will do the rest".

Sometimes I think these people are so leftist it's not real anymore, it's just trolling.

Post: #91

Post: #92

^ He's a comic named Ben Hoffman.

This is standard Marxist Subversion in action. The Easily-Offended should be horrified by the language in a song like this, but because it's mocking straight-white male culture, it's being praised by Rolling Stone, NPR and gay activists.

They used to champion Free Speech in the service of this kind of subversion.

Post: #93

(06-25-2016 10:59 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

(06-25-2016 10:36 AM)Germanicus Wrote:  

Quote:Sex therapist Susan Block agrees. “I hear about it going on in Saudi Arabia, in Latin America – I talk to guys from all over the world who are doing this. In all different cultures.”

((Susan Block)) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Block

She's got tranny face.

Looks like a man in drag all right

Post: #94

(06-25-2016 03:56 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  ^ He's a comic named Ben Hoffman.

This is standard Marxist Subversion in action. The Easily-Offended should be horrified by the language in a song like this, but because it's mocking straight-white male culture, it's being praised by Rolling Stone, NPR and gay activists.

This used to champion Free Speech in the service of this kind of subversion.

Yeah, I know it's a character. Still cracks me up.

Do you honestly believe that Ben Hoffman is consciously trying to bring down capitalism? Or do you see him as more of a useful idiot, or what?

I am pretty sure a lot of rednecks think he is funny too, and treat it as more of a joke than a threat.

Post: #95

(06-25-2016 04:14 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

(06-25-2016 03:56 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  ^ He's a comic named Ben Hoffman.

This is standard Marxist Subversion in action. The Easily-Offended should be horrified by the language in a song like this, but because it's mocking straight-white male culture, it's being praised by Rolling Stone, NPR and gay activists.

This used to champion Free Speech in the service of this kind of subversion.

Yeah, I know it's a character. Still cracks me up.

Do you honestly believe that Ben Hoffman is consciously trying to bring down capitalism? Or do you see him as more of a useful idiot, or what?

I am pretty sure a lot of rednecks think he is funny too, and treat it as more of a joke than a threat.

Agreed. Hoffman is from Kentucky and happens to know Sturgill Simpson who let him 'borrow' his band to record the album as wheeler walker jr. If it was part of an "agenda" you'd see Wheeler Walker on the country music awards, not getting the David Allan Coe treatment.

my personal favorite is "drop em out", "beer weed n cootches" is also good.

Post: #96

How did this thread suddenly surface again? Sad!

I've been alive longer than most guys here and can say with certainly that in all my dealings with men, I have NEVER seen what this woman claims as reality. (And since when does a woman get to say what men supposedly do in private?)

Anyway, this behavior didn't go on in school, in sports, at the beach, at work, or at happy hour -- or in any "male-dominated" (hahahahaha) space I was ever in.

I'll tell you the one place I did see it, though: When a bunch of us went to a gay bar in college. The gay guys on the dorm hall took us all there one night to see what it was like. Funny enough, it turned out I was pretty popular.

However, that got no one anywhere BECAUSE I'M NOT GAY! Then we went back to the dorms and had sex with our girlfriends and forgot about the whole thing...until this idiotic, non-factual propaganda piece appeared.

Post: #97

There was a dupe yesterday.

Post: #98

Ya DOBA I've never seen a dude I hung around pull a move. Any of the very few times someone said something overly suspect they got ostracized.

I'm 29, technically a millennial and I did roll with the trouble makers in school, but we weren't having any of that fag shit. Faggot was pretty much the ultimate insult, someone called you that left right left right til they hit the floor.

Now these kids call each other faggot as an "ironic term of endearment." Hell no.

Post: #99

(06-26-2016 10:36 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  How did this thread suddenly surface again? Sad!

Because of our resident veganfag, tanner. Alas, he has now been flattened. May he continue to enjoy munching on his celery, keeping his testosterone below 100ng/dL, and pondering where his next lay will come from this decade.

Post: #100

Glad that Salon raised the issue. Don't know what all the commotion is about in this thread. The feminist-dominated elites are apparently against us and the decline of this society is imminent. Decadent Western women feed their egos on dating sites and no respectable male should pay attention to these overweight bitches. There has never been a worse time to be a straight (white) man. Men begin to wake up and realize that dating women increasingly becomes a bad deal in this age. They call it bro job. I call it rebellion. In many traditional cultures it's not considered homo to relieve yourself with not-too-hirsute companion as long as you remain the active part. (Meaning that you insert your erected phallus into someone else's anus.)