(12-05-2017 11:45 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  That Myers Briggs test has turned more ignorant women into experts on everything than we know. Don't ask me how I know.

It's flaws aside, I recall much delightful conversation between my parents growing up as they attempted to categorize the various people they knew according to the Myers Briggs system.

It was good for their relationship to have that shared area of "knowledge."

(12-05-2017 10:57 AM)glugger Wrote:  She's actually 100% correct. In summary:

-Brown bottles are the best at filtering out uv light.
-During WW2 there was a brown glass shortage, so 'premium' brewers used green glass to distinguish their beer from cheap clear glass brands.
- These days all colours of beer bottles have a uv protection coating.

glugger

Excellent username to post content.

Milo Yiannopoulos: Police clash with protestors outside Sydney event

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrit...zz5sa.html <--- video of protest

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/n...3c9ac523f1


Australian media cancelled all interviews with Milo now!

Milo at Parliament House

(12-06-2017 12:01 AM)fuckoff Wrote:  http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrit...zz5sa.html <--- video of protest

From that typist who wrote that article...

Quote:That's the problem with the "free speech" establishment. Make no mistake, they are the establishment, only they've successfully convinced a solid section of the population that they are oppressed "outsiders" whose freedom to be "controversial" is being curtailed.

"The Free Thinking Establishment has had enough Freedom here!"

Jesus Christ these people are evil.

Can someone with enough clout start talking about projection? And make this a national debate, an international debate? For fucks sake, this is ridiculous.

Protester Throws Shoes at MILO

Around the 3:30 mark, the Australian guys were walking around, observing and talking about the protesters: "Uni brainwashing...soy boy look...low-t...they have that look...I'm getting a headache listening to all this screaming...".






Meanwhile, MSM in Australia didn't cover what happened outside after the end of Milo's speech.

(12-06-2017 02:10 AM)fuckoff Wrote:  Protester Throws Shoes at MILO

(12-06-2017 04:11 AM)Tex Cruise Wrote:  

Arabs.


Bush shoeing incident

Victorian Police Minister tries to bill Milo 50K for police presence at Melbourne Riots

Quote:Right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos and his promoters will be slapped with a bill of at least $50,000 to cover the cost of the police numbers required to handle violent protests outside his shows in Melbourne.

...

(Police Minister) Ms Neville said the cost would be at least $50,000 and added it was common practice for organisers of large-scale or controversial events to be billed if large numbers of police resources were required.

...

She was unaware if Mr Yiannopoulos had agreed to pay the costs, but she hoped he would.

"It's a big call to say you're going to ignore a bill from Victoria Police," she said.

What a joke. She's trying to lump his talk in with major sporting events like Football Matches where organisers benefit from Police being effectively used as security.

Bill the lefty protesters instead. They're traceable. Trying to throw riot policing back on Milo smacks of the American universities that billed his talks for security while not doing the same for divisive left wing speakers.

No bets taken on the minister's hair length:



**UPDATE**

'Sue me': Defiant Milo Yiannopoulos refuses to pay police

Daily Mail Wrote:Milo Yiannopoulos and his promoters won't pay the $50,000 they will be asked to cough up to cover the heavy police presence at his Melbourne show.

Police Minister Lisa Neville said the event's organisers would be sent the bill after protesters violently clashed outside the Kensington venue on Monday night.

Yiannopoulos' Australian tour promoter Damien Costas defiantly argued 'his people' had nothing to do with the violence and said he will refuse to cover the cost.

'This is political grandstanding. It's actually absolute nonsense,' he told Daily Mail Australia on Thursday.

'My answer to politicians that like to get political mileage out of something - in this case the Police Minister - my answer to her is quite simple: "Sue me".

...

Mr Costas argued the minister could not justify the bill and said he had extensive negotiations with Victoria Police ahead of the event.

'In good faith we offered to pay [for police presence] - we asked if there was going to be a cost and the answer was no.

'For her to get involved after the event demonstrates very clearly where politics is at in this country.'

Good for them.

^^^^

This sort of bully-boy shit is a result of idiots letting parties get out of control in the suburbs. She saw this event and thought she had another couple of suburban parents she could intimidate because their idiot teenage kids let a party get out of control or couldn't keep out the yobs who go cruising to cause trouble at backyard events. That's the sort of situation where the police go around issuing bills for their attendance. Particularly noticeable by its absence is any mention of an actual formed contract. Hope they've got that assurance of no costs on e-mail or on paper.

Welcome to Prison Australia.

I'm glad he's finally gotten around to launching his own website. He should have done that immediately after leaving Breitbart. Hopefully he hasn't irreparably lost his momentum; I disagree with his lifestyle choices but he still served as a useful tool in the fight against postmodernism in 2014-16.

(12-05-2017 11:45 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  That Myers Briggs test has turned more ignorant women into experts on everything than we know. Don't ask me how I know.

Well, it seems you keep listening to them.

Milo's lawsuit against Simon & Schuster, his former publisher, has inadvertently made public the editor's pre-scandal notes on the draft of his book 'Dangerous'. I can see why they couldn't work together.

The Most Scathing Editor Comments From Milo Yiannopoulos’ Manuscript

Quote:This is definitely not the place for more of your narcissism.

Quote:This is not the time or place for another black-dick joke.

Quote:Ego and self-aggrandizement backfire in book.

Quote:When he calls feminists “attention-seeking:”
Comment [A198]: This is what people say about you.

(12-29-2017 09:46 AM)ElFlaco Wrote:  Milo's lawsuit against Simon & Schuster, his former publisher, has inadvertently made public the editor's pre-scandal notes on the draft of his book 'Dangerous'. I can see why they couldn't work together.

The Most Scathing Editor Comments From Milo Yiannopoulos’ Manuscript

Quote:This is definitely not the place for more of your narcissism.

Quote:This is not the time or place for another black-dick joke.

Quote:Ego and self-aggrandizement backfire in book.

Quote:When he calls feminists “attention-seeking:”
Comment [A198]: This is what people say about you.

Followed the link and read this. The editors sound like out of touch feminists from the 70's.

They seem to have no idea why Milo is popular or even who he is. They sound like a liberal at a Ben Shapiro talk trying to criticize him when they have no facts or perspective, only party line SJW talking points.

They write as if traditional publishing still has some sort of authority and they are handing down unassailable judgments from a literary Olympus.

Out of touch. Out of tune. SJW attempt at a derail.

Sad.

(12-29-2017 02:48 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  The editors sound like out of touch feminists from the 70's.

Quote:SLATE: As Mei points out, Yiannopoulos’ editor Mitchell Ivers is a conservative himself—in fact, he’s the editorial director of Threshold Editions, an imprint of Simon & Schuster that specializes in conservative nonfiction. But while there’s a possibility he agrees with Yiannopoulos on some points, even Ivers could see that the man and his manuscript had gone very far off the conservative deep end.

They don't really seem to understand Milo.

You have to remember where the publishing establishment comes from. These are people who have bachelor's degrees and more from elite schools--Harvard, Bennington, Williams, etc. Most of them are on the lunatic fringe of the left. A lot of them are also women. Of course, each one will hire a token conservative or two. And they will be more middle than conservative.

I don't expect any of them to understand Milo.

^ They don't even understand Trump.

(12-29-2017 05:41 PM)puckerman Wrote:  You have to remember where the publishing establishment comes from. These are people who have bachelor's degrees and more from elite schools--Harvard, Bennington, Williams, etc. Most of them are on the lunatic fringe of the left. A lot of them are also women. Of course, each one will hire a token conservative or two. And they will be more middle than conservative.

I don't expect any of them to understand Milo.

This publishing house is token conservatism, they publish empty shell 00s AM talk radio conservative shills like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh.

To a certain extent, Milo is also a token conservative, because while his opinions aren't 100% kosher, his degenerate persona is an embodiment of cultural marxism.

I have never been involved in publishing but I am surprised an editor would write comments in such a style. They are written very personally and not in a professional way.
I am sure many first drafts of manuscripts are terrible so the substance of the comments aren't surprising. However if i was an author I'd be offended at the judgmental and demeaning tone used in many of the comments. They come across as very personally critical rather than professional critique of the work.

All that being said though, I did buy and read Milo's book and I can't say it's terribly good. I hope his next one is better.
I saw it described as "at best, a superficial work full of incendiary jokes with no coherent or sophisticated analysis of political issues" and to be honest, that's quite an apt description.

Actually, despite liking Milo’s attitude toward the establishment, his book is fucking terrible & I couldn’t get thru more than a chapter & a half before I was saying to myself everything it turns out his editor was too.

It’s fucking terrible, self aggrandising rubbish & even more gratuitous than the shit he spouts off in public.

I can very much imagine that his book is bad. It seems to have been written while he was riding the wave of his rising popularity at full speed late 2016/1st half of 2017 and was overstretching the "depraved gay" shtick more and more. For a while it seemed as even he himself didn't understand what people liked him for. Unlike what he claims, it's definitely not primarily for the offensive and crude anti-liberal jokes coupled with flamboyant gay shit. That may get you laughs from college-aged millennials but not real recognition. People liked him because when it mattered, he was (and still is) a very competent speaker and debater and did best when he combined that with easy charm and a light touch of "BTW I'm gay" that didn't cross the line to full on self-referential fag theatrics. His appearance on Maher was his low point. Awful and cringeworthy.

Then the whole scandal, cancelled book deal etc seemingly brought him back to earth for a while, but it's still hard to say whether he learned from it. He did have some good interviews recently, but he also said he's writing a book about the Hollywood sex scandals now which just seems like another attempt at cashing in on public sentiment.

I think it's hard for someone with this style to accurately translate that into a book and I don't think it's a style that really works for a book.
For his books at least he should concentrate on the substance of his viewpoints and put forward his logical arguments but in a way that is lighter, interesting and accessible for the sub-35 audience which is his main fan base.

(01-02-2018 09:00 AM)atlant Wrote:  People liked him because when it mattered, he was (and still is) a very competent speaker and debater

That's a good way to put it. Competent, although it's a bit like a chess master (not a grandmaster) playing against an amateur. He would not do so well against serious competition. Milo is good at what he does, but he's a lightweight, just like Michael Moore on the other side.

What's up with Milo hiring this guy http://deepfreeze.it/journo.php?j=ian_miles_cheong .. https://www.dangerous.com/author/miles/ ?