Post: #1

The past 24 girls I slept with, 5 of them asked to "take a break" (without having orgasmed) after about 20 minutes of sex with a condom and no lube (although the condom was slightly lubricated out of the wrapper as most condoms are). Basically they weren't enjoying it and wanted to stop.

I'm trying to figure out if using lube with condoms is actually reasonably important, or if I should just work on my sex skills (or game, so that girls are naturally wetter). I am going to experiment with using lube to test this for myself, but wanted to get some outside opinions too.

I've had sex with about 50 girls, almost always with condoms, and only used lube with 1 (she insisted). I think I've had a bit of an ego issue with lube, assuming that only chumps needed to use it, and that girls would get sufficiently wet if my game was good enough. A lot of girls do, and act as if I'm giving them exactly what they need, but this 20% who don't seem to enjoy sex with me bothers me because when it happens it seems like there's nothing I can do about it. In the future I plan to talk to girls about what's wrong, but I haven't done it in the past and am no longer in contact with any of these 20% of girls.

How often do other guys get asked to stop after a long session with a condom and no lube?

Post: #2

If using condom, always use lube. Rubber isn't the same as skin.

Post: #3

Also, you can warm them up more by fingering them and going down on them to get them super wet. Just make sure to not make them orgasm, save that for when you are banging them. Or just use lube

Also, start slower then speed up, don't just start hammering like a jackhammer when you first penetrate them.

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Or try different condoms.

Post: #4

Women dont want to have sex for longer than that. They want you to nut in a reasonable amount of time. I'm convinced that pleases them more than a marathon session.

Post: #5

(09-24-2015 06:41 AM)Vaun Wrote:  Women dont want to have sex for longer than that. They want you to nut in a reasonable amount of time. I'm convinced that pleases them more than a marathon session.

The last thing I care about is what time constraints a woman wants to put on sex. If she wants a two pump chump then find someone who fits YOUR requirements. Also don't be down on yourself for needing lube with a condom. That's a foreign substance to the body and a woman's body will not react in the same manner as going raw. Lube up and bang til your hearts content.

Post: #6

What is the typical age of these women asking to take a break?

Post: #7

One key part of your story has been left out - how are you fucking these girls?

Are these 20 minute sex sessions composed of you at one high speed Energizer bunny setting?

If that's the case, remember that issues regarding friction are bound to occur and cause discomfort for her without adequate lube (reducing her pleasure and distracting her from cumming). You'll get this without condoms as well, but it won't be as prevalent.

Post: #8

I have had girls suffer in pleasure from me fucking them for long, but I always have lube in handy. Just be sure to have a rough foreplay (biting their necks, tongue-fucking their mouths, etc...), some fingering and they should be wet as hell. If not, the girl in question might be dehydrated or naturally not as wet.

Summing up, make her drink water a while before banging, have rough foreplay and use a lube.

Post: #9

Girls ask me to take a break after 20 seconds of sex with my anaconda.. lucky for them I had already busted a nut 17 seconds ago.

Post: #10

How big are you girth wise? This could be the problem regardless of lube...

Only my current gf has said this, although an inexperienced model chick once inusiated in our drunken sex craze that IT HURTS... (And possibly told her circle that my dick is big as a result)

I know based on feedback from chicks that they LOVE THE SEX I wanna say each girl has had a "monumental" sexual breakthrough being with me...

STILL...My current gf had to "adapt" to my size as she is very small. Tightest chick I ever banged...

Took about 3-4 months, at 1st public sex was impossible BUT now she is used to it and we can go hours.

P.S...Don't go jack hammering away, using half a second thrusts (2 thrusts per second) as your max speed and anything faster should be 5-30sexs max. Although I don't know how other guys bang but take it slow focusing more on the energy of sex to really unleash the woman to get SOAKING WET where she is begging to be taken. Most guys are just thrusting away for PHYSICAL pleasure rather than in reaction of the woman's sexual PSYCHOLOGICALLY compelling him to passionately pound away. (Both pleasurable but on vastly different scales)

Post: #11

(09-24-2015 05:59 AM)Talekhine Wrote:  The past 24 girls I slept with, 5 of them asked to "take a break" (without having orgasmed) after about 20 minutes of sex with a condom and no lube (although the condom was slightly lubricated out of the wrapper as most condoms are). Basically they weren't enjoying it and wanted to stop.

If you are above-average in length and have good stamina, you need to make sure your girl is very sexually-aroused before penetration, particularly if their pussies are small or tight. Start with some dominant pussy ownership with your hands and fingers first: I recommend upping the intensity from simple kissing lips or breast paired with the clit stimulation into firm, deliberate penetrating techniques with your fingers to encourage her to squirt within the first few minutes of clitplay - there's instructional videos online. It'll blow her mind and she'll really want your cock in her.

The purpose of heightening her arousal before penetration is that her uterus and cervix ascends when she's turned on, lengthening her vaginal cavity. If you're big, you're likely to be hitting her cervix as you thrust if she's not aroused - you won't feel it, but she will, and it's hugely-painful for her and, obviously, a sexual buzzkill. There's still a risk of this for big guys even with arousal.

If she says this, withdraw, but go back into foreplay mode - kiss, caress, bite nipples, keep stimulating her clit with your fingers, then suggest trying a more comfortable position where she can control the depth. You can use this knowledge to strengthen her impression of you as an experienced, in-demand lover.

Have positions like these in your arsenal:

20 Hottest Sex Positions For A Large Penis

I can highly-recommend 'The Suspended Congress' - it's common to get spontaneous squirting from it, so your best bet there is to do it in the shower.

Post: #12

(09-24-2015 09:35 AM)Repo Wrote:  What is the typical age of these women asking to take a break?

They tend to be younger -- 22 to 25.

(09-24-2015 10:15 AM)Windom Earle Wrote:  One key part of your story has been left out - how are you fucking these girls?

Are these 20 minute sex sessions composed of you at one high speed Energizer bunny setting?

I tend to only intermittently fuck super hard. I try to vary it up, but on average its about as hard as you typically see in porn. I try not to go too long in the same position either. A 20 minute session might have 3-4 positions.

(09-24-2015 04:23 PM)Distant Light Wrote:  How big are you girth wise? This could be the problem regardless of lube...

About average I think. 6.25 inches of girth, 6 inches of length.

Thanks everyone for the feedback. In addition to experimenting with lube, I'll also try increasing the ratio of slow sex to fast. And I'll try to finish before 20 minutes regardless.

Post: #13

(09-24-2015 08:56 PM)Talekhine Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 09:35 AM)Repo Wrote:  What is the typical age of these women asking to take a break?

They tend to be younger -- 22 to 25.

(09-24-2015 10:15 AM)Windom Earle Wrote:  One key part of your story has been left out - how are you fucking these girls?

Are these 20 minute sex sessions composed of you at one high speed Energizer bunny setting?

I tend to only intermittently fuck super hard. I try to vary it up, but on average its about as hard as you typically see in porn. I try not to go too long in the same position either. A 20 minute session might have 3-4 positions.

I don't understand how a lot of guys on this forum frown upon lube. Every girl I've ever been with, ever, has been under 23, and most are naturally extremely wet. But that wetness doesn't last forever, and if you're going in with a condom, and you don't finish fast, you need lube.

With every pump, you're going to get drier. If you're pumping fast, then of course things will be aggravated. But I don't care what your skill is, you need lube.

(09-24-2015 04:23 PM)Distant Light Wrote:  How big are you girth wise? This could be the problem regardless of lube...

I sure hope this thread doesn't devolve into dick size.

Seriously though, if you have trouble finishing quickly enough, check out this article. It's helped me deal with the same problem.

For me, it was mostly psychological. Busting fast is mostly about letting go of everything--your anxieties about shit in life, your nervousness with a particular girl, etc.--and letting that inner cave man take over.

If you're having sex and you find yourself tensing up your dick trying to nut, then relax and try to enjoy that moment and hone in on what you're doing. Forget about worrying if she likes what's going on, and worry about yourself. You'll find yourself having much quicker and more pleasant orgasms.

Post: #14

(09-24-2015 11:28 PM)Tex Wrote:  Seriously though, if you have trouble finishing quickly enough, check out this article. It's helped me deal with the same problem.

For me, it was mostly psychological. Busting fast is mostly about letting go of everything--your anxieties about shit in life, your nervousness with a particular girl, etc.--and letting that inner cave man take over.

In my case I can cum fast if I want to. I usually try to get the girl off first (I know some PUAs say not to worry about the girl's pleasure), then cum myself. So in the cases where it goes ~20 minutes then I get asked to stop, I'm specifically trying not to come while I experiment to figure out what the girl likes, then eventually I get stopped before I figure anything out.

Btw thanks for the thoughts on the lube issue.

Post: #15

I used to last too long with girls once upon a time, and 20 minutes generally is too long. That was a direct consequence of jerking too much, and the psychological vicious circle of wanting to cum but not being able to.

I'd say it was 90% jerking, 10% worry.

When I stop jerking for just 2-3 days, I can finish really quickly. And that means not even touching my dick... I keep myself busy and out of the house so that I come back home exhausted and fall straight to sleep. I don't even entertain my boners. I used to think stroking without blasting was fine... it's not. Shit robs me of my power just as much, if not more.

Some guys want to last a long time, but I've found when I started cumming more quickly, girls came more quickly along with me, and they enjoyed that little psychological boost of making me cum fast. You can see them thinking 'yay, I have a nice pussy!' and they sort of let go psychologically. They're relieved in a way, and I see them enjoying themselves more. A lot of times I enjoy the 2nd round more because that proverbial load is off MY shoulders too. So I can just relax and settle into making a better impression, if I want. And if round 2 drags on a little too long, hey, you busted, so it's alright.

Once I figured my rhythm out going through new notches, I found that the best strategy for me was to try and cum as quickly as possible, usually about 5 minutes or so, sometimes even less if it's really good pussy. If my 'preparation' is up to par, and by preparation I mean no jerking the previous days, then I can stay inside after the nut, and slowly move in and out. Usually I'm back in commission for round two within 60 seconds. Change the condom if you want, a lot of times I don't. I know, I'm an idiot, or maybe just sterile.

Usually my best bangs are not on the first date. But my best first date bang came with a girl where I worked this little strategy out. I banged her 3 times within an hour, with about a 5 minute refractory period between bangs 2 and 3, if I remember correctly. By the 3rd time she was moaning loud as hell, still sopping wet, saying 'My god, you're like a machine!' in a cute Chinese accent. To date that's still my best first date, but I've had a handful of similar success stories, after several rounds of subpar outings and downright no-bust first-bangs.



Anyway, that's my take...

Don't jerk, cum quick, stay in, talk smack, reload, change condom, kill it in round 2 or 3

Post: #16

Dry condoms suck, better to buy variety packs, try literally everything till you find one that feels good, there is an incredible amount of variety and its very worth the experiment-after all why spend all that effort if the sex is only subpar after? Then buy them in bulk on ebay. For me I liked some of the trustex flavored condoms.

Post: #17

(09-25-2015 01:24 AM)Kamikaze Wrote:  Once I figured my rhythm out going through new notches, I found that the best strategy for me was to try and cum as quickly as possible, usually about 5 minutes or so, sometimes even less if it's really good pussy. If my 'preparation' is up to par, and by preparation I mean no jerking the previous days, then I can stay inside after the nut, and slowly move in and out. Usually I'm back in commission for round two within 60 seconds. Change the condom if you want, a lot of times I don't. I know, I'm an idiot, or maybe just sterile.

Usually my best bangs are not on the first date. But my best first date bang came with a girl where I worked this little strategy out. I banged her 3 times within an hour, with about a 5 minute refractory period between bangs 2 and 3, if I remember correctly. By the 3rd time she was moaning loud as hell, still sopping wet, saying 'My god, you're like a machine!' in a cute Chinese accent. To date that's still my best first date, but I've had a handful of similar success stories, after several rounds of subpar outings and downright no-bust first-bangs.

Anyway, that's my take...

Don't jerk, cum quick, stay in, talk smack, reload, change condom, kill it in round 2 or 3

Interesting. I'm in a similar position where the time is only limited by my physical fitness and energy (I just stay hard indefinitely), and that it's more pleasant just to bust early to get the first 'sensitive one' out of the way, rather than fighting it.

One problem is that when I do, sometimes the girl thinks "that's it?", so she gets annoyed briefly until its apparent that I've only just begun.

The main issue is the interruption. Either with condoms or without, to be safe you have to take a break between to dispose, wash off, take a piss, put on a fresh condom etc, before you can come back. It just messes with the whole mood or 'love bubble' if you will.

Post: #18

(09-25-2015 02:33 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  The main issue is the interruption. Either with condoms or without, to be safe you have to take a break between to dispose, wash off, take a piss, put on a fresh condom etc, before you can come back. It just messes with the whole mood or 'love bubble' if you will.

I hear you, especially if you're going raw you gotta wash everything off and pee. But I'm a lot less careful when I'm using condoms... I've stayed in for round 2 using the same condom a bunch of times, never an issue... but when I do switch mid-round I make it very quick, 10 second transition at most hovering right over the pussy. I also talk while I'm inside, just to stay hard and be ready for round 2, that's probably the easiest time for me to talk to a bitch, so the 'love bubble' doesn't pop so easily

But I might have a deathwish. I don't know, I've just never had a scare. If I'm regular with the girl I also ask about her cycle to see just how careful I should be... beginning or end I'll go raw, but won't bust inside. Ovulating mid-cycle I'll actually avoid banging, but I'll bag it up if I do.

Post: #19

If girls had their way you would nut the first time you looked at them.

Post: #20

(09-25-2015 05:34 AM)Sooth Wrote:  If girls had their way you would nut the first time you looked at them.

Post: #21

(09-25-2015 12:48 AM)Talekhine Wrote:  In my case I can cum fast if I want to. I usually try to get the girl off first (I know some PUAs say not to worry about the girl's pleasure), then cum myself. So in the cases where it goes ~20 minutes then I get asked to stop, I'm specifically trying not to come while I experiment to figure out what the girl likes, then eventually I get stopped before I figure anything out.

It's not always about you. Some girls come like crazy from PIV, others never do and need a vibrator.

My advice: worry less about making her come first with PIV. Definitely give her a good bang, but keep in mind that lots of girls enjoy sex even when they don't come. They are not as orgasm-focused as guys are. You can always get her off with your hands later, anyway, as a lead-up to round two.

Regarding the lube: take it on a case-for-case basis. In my experience, lube has rarely been necessary for vaginal sex, even with condoms and bangs of moderate length. But it depends on how wet the chick is. Sometimes lube can be quite helpful, especially for marathon sessions (e.g., when drunk).

Post: #22

My girlfriend absolutely gushes. I put layers and layers of towels and blankets underneath us when we get to business (I don't yet have a mattress cover). She destroyed my previous bed. She is a squirter, that's for sure.

Even so I use a little bit of lube just to enter at the beginning. Nothing wrong with using lube.

Post: #23

(09-24-2015 08:04 AM)Dino Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 06:41 AM)Vaun Wrote:  Women dont want to have sex for longer than that. They want you to nut in a reasonable amount of time. I'm convinced that pleases them more than a marathon session.

The last thing I care about is what time constraints a woman wants to put on sex. If she wants a two pump chump then find someone who fits YOUR requirements. Also don't be down on yourself for needing lube with a condom. That's a foreign substance to the body and a woman's body will not react in the same manner as going raw. Lube up and bang til your hearts content.

Call me crazy but I want her to come back for more. "banging away till your hearts content" gets boring without nutting after a while, so whats the point?

Post: #24

(09-27-2015 10:41 AM)Vaun Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:04 AM)Dino Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 06:41 AM)Vaun Wrote:  Women dont want to have sex for longer than that. They want you to nut in a reasonable amount of time. I'm convinced that pleases them more than a marathon session.

The last thing I care about is what time constraints a woman wants to put on sex. If she wants a two pump chump then find someone who fits YOUR requirements. Also don't be down on yourself for needing lube with a condom. That's a foreign substance to the body and a woman's body will not react in the same manner as going raw. Lube up and bang til your hearts content.

Call me crazy but I want her to come back for more. "banging away till your hearts content" gets boring without nutting after a while, so whats the point?

I can't really help you on that one without more data. Post a video of you screwing and we can see if anyone can offer up some assistance to keep you from getting bored.

Post: #25

Tell her to moan and talk dirty and teach her to reach under and squeeze your balls. You're welcome.