Post: #1

TL;DR - Don't Bang Leipzig.

Obligatory about me: early 30s, Asian-American (though Mexicans think I'm Mexican), average height, fit but not jacked, well-dressed, London-style daygamer who generally avoids nightgame.

Came here yesterday afternoon from Kiev and only booked myself two nights, since there wasn't a lot of data about it. I wanted to scout the place before committing to it. After all, I came here based on only a few data points:

1) 20Nation's Boobs by Country Map: http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=36780
2) Deb's post on Leipzig: /thread-12905...#pid230031
3) The fact that I insta-dated and FB-closed a busty but thin 20-year-old German girl while walking around Frankfurt's Zeil Mall near the end of a early-evening layover.
4) Wikipedia says most foreigners here are Polish or Eastern European, rather than Turkish, unlike many other German cities.
5) A counterpoint: the fact that a number of posters on this forum (including one I met in Kiev) are German. Why would they be on this forum if their own women were good?

Here are my conclusions after walking around central Leipzig for two solid afternoons:

1) German girls are bustier than their Ukrainian counterparts, on average, but at about the same level as their Polish counterparts.
2) Unfortunately, bust is where the similarity between German and Polish girls generally ends. German girls tend to be heavier, neon-hair-colored, and/or frumpy more often than their Polish counterparts.
3) Factually, I already knew Germany was old, having recently surpassed Japan as having the world's lowest birth rate, but walking around Leipzig ... fuck this place is older than Tokyo! Young girls are harder to come by than in Poland or Ukraine.
4) Despite #4 from above generally being true compared to what I saw in Frankfurt, there are still definitely more foreigners in Leipzig than anywhere else I've been in Poland, even Warsaw. Some of them are obviously students though, especially the Chinese.
5) Leipzig generally does badly relative to Poland and Ukraine on the Busted Dudes test ( http://www.rooshv.com/the-busted-dudes-test ), though there aren't that many obviously young couples to begin with (a likely symptom of the world's lowest birth rate).

Based on the above, I've booked myself back to Poland. Kiev was great, but it can wait. As an early 30's guy, I'm actually only just old enough there to date girls in college or younger. And the older guys in the Revo crew didn't seem to have problems there with said girls either (more info on the Revo crew: /thread-37535...pid1103856 )

Edit: if you must go, stay in central Leipzig. That's where the foot traffic and date venues are. The train station has a decent mall for daygame, but save it for bad weather, since there's much more foot traffic across the street in the central outdoor shopping area, especially around and west of Leipzig University (which is actually in the shopping area). The Höfe am Brühl indoor mall (also in the central outdoor shopping area) is another bad weather alternative.

Post: #2

Germany is an aging country and the problem is especially pronounced in Eastern Germany where those with job skills are leaving or have already left. Leipzig is still a pretty "young" city though by German standards. You can only imagine how depressing the situation is in smaller non university towns. Choosing second tier cities in Germany is not a smart move imho.

I did see a few young people in Leipzig when I was there last summer but don't know what the situation is like in Poland/Ukraine. Women in Leipzig tend to have bigger butts and boobs compared to their counterparts in the North but are not as pretty.

Post: #3

If girls in Leipzig are anything like nearby Dresden it makes absolutely no sense to visit for the girls. Berlin is a lot of fun and quite cheap for a major city though, and my impression was the girls are really easy. Otherwise for girls I would avoid East Germany, if not the country in general.

Post: #4

Look at ''Mutti''

German(anic) girls aren't exactly known for their femininity or charm.

Fuck,I'm really sick of Germanic culture right now. People need to learn to lighten up and not scowl all the time. They say it's because they aren't superficial. That's not an excuse for constantly having a stick up ones ass. Even Spain and Italy have light flirting that makes life more pleasant. The Dutch are more outgoing. Scandinavians,while crazy feminists will put out easier and if you don't look nordic you can pull higher quality by default for being ''exotic''

Post: #5

I've never been to Leipzig but the ugliest German girls I've met were all from either Leipzig or Dresden



I love how scientific this forum can be

Post: #6

I'll be moving over to Leipzig within the next two months and would appreciate a thirst check on the city. Given that my baseline is the UK, does anybody have an idea how eastern Germany (Berlin, Leipzig, Dresden) stacks up in comparison these days?

Post: #7

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I'll be moving over to Leipzig within the next two months and would appreciate a thirst check on the city. Given that my baseline is the UK, does anybody have an idea how eastern Germany (Berlin, Leipzig, Dresden) stacks up in comparison these days?
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Its hardly going to be worse is it?....just chill out, get over there and find out for yourself would be my advice, so much more fun that way especially as you are going there anyway...I also very much doubt anyone has bothered to do a detailed analysis of those 3 cities vs the UK.

Post: #8

(04-12-2016 03:44 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  I'll be moving over to Leipzig within the next two months and would appreciate a thirst check on the city. Given that my baseline is the UK, does anybody have an idea how eastern Germany (Berlin, Leipzig, Dresden) stacks up in comparison these days?

Here's me again!

I actually happened to be in Berlin on Sunday. I've also been to London and Birmingham within the past year (also just for a day each). Also obviously been to Leipzig, as I mentioned above. So take the below for what that's worth:

Berlin is definitely younger than Leipzig. It's a bit more hipster though, so it's also probably more left-leaning.

The quality in Berlin is better than in Birmingham, though that's likely due to Berlin also being younger than Birmingham.

Berlin versus London? Berlin just edges out London in my book, since London seems to attract careerists, while Berlin is more hipster.

Finally, on Leipzig, note that both Szczecin and Prague are both about a three hour drive away, so at least you can explore those options easily. Not much going on in Szczecin from my one day observation, though the quality is Polish-level. I've never been to Prague, but there's apparently a decent-sized group of RvFers there, so that may be worth checking out.

Edit: Never been to Dresden.