From US News:

12:20 p.m.

Norway's domestic intelligence agency says the influx of migrants has a consequence for the general threat assessment in the country, mainly in the potential for a backlash.

More than 2,800 people, mainly Syrians, have sought shelter in Norway so far in Norway in September.

Siv Alsen of the PST security police says there is a potential that left-wing groups rallying to support refugee-related cases and "can lead to counter-reactions and violent clashes" with right-wing extremists.

In Thursday's statement, Alsen said asylum-seekers linked to radical Islamism are "not a central concern" in the short term, adding the main threat comes primarily from people born or raised in Norway.

The country expects to receive up to 20,000 asylum-seekers this year, compared to 11,480 people in 2014.

The Volkswagen scandal could very well be the beginning of a serious German and European financial nosedive, if the welfare dries up the real shit hits the fan...

(09-24-2015 09:26 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Political programme:

- taking Croatia out of the EU and NATO
- taking no more than a small number of actual refugees and strictly filtering and refusing all the rest by closing the border
- declaring all accumulated foreign debt illegal (declaring bankruptcy and refusing to pay any debts recklessly ran up by previous governments)
- taking control of the central bank and beginning to issue our own independent currency
- eliminating fractional reserve banking (by raising the reserve requirement to 100%)
- restoring the national control of vital national interests such as the energy sector, transportation, telecommunications, and banks
- impeachment and trials for judges and politicians who cucked for the outrageous abuses committed during privatisation or the reign of foreign banks in Croatia
- allowing freedom of choice regarding vaccination
- ban on GMO foods and crops
- legalization of production, sale and usage of cannabis
- eliminating "hate speech" laws and other tools made for suppressing public discourse

You really believe the global elite will allow this to happen in a country which is under their occupation already?

(09-24-2015 10:36 AM)Caveman Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 09:26 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Political programme:

- taking Croatia out of the EU and NATO
- taking no more than a small number of actual refugees and strictly filtering and refusing all the rest by closing the border
- declaring all accumulated foreign debt illegal (declaring bankruptcy and refusing to pay any debts recklessly ran up by previous governments)
- taking control of the central bank and beginning to issue our own independent currency
- eliminating fractional reserve banking (by raising the reserve requirement to 100%)
- restoring the national control of vital national interests such as the energy sector, transportation, telecommunications, and banks
- impeachment and trials for judges and politicians who cucked for the outrageous abuses committed during privatisation or the reign of foreign banks in Croatia
- allowing freedom of choice regarding vaccination
- ban on GMO foods and crops
- legalization of production, sale and usage of cannabis
- eliminating "hate speech" laws and other tools made for suppressing public discourse

You really believe the global elite will allow this to happen in a country which is under their occupation already?

What's the alternative? Roll belly-up and die?

(09-24-2015 10:36 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 10:36 AM)Caveman Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 09:26 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Political programme:

- taking Croatia out of the EU and NATO
- taking no more than a small number of actual refugees and strictly filtering and refusing all the rest by closing the border
- declaring all accumulated foreign debt illegal (declaring bankruptcy and refusing to pay any debts recklessly ran up by previous governments)
- taking control of the central bank and beginning to issue our own independent currency
- eliminating fractional reserve banking (by raising the reserve requirement to 100%)
- restoring the national control of vital national interests such as the energy sector, transportation, telecommunications, and banks
- impeachment and trials for judges and politicians who cucked for the outrageous abuses committed during privatisation or the reign of foreign banks in Croatia
- allowing freedom of choice regarding vaccination
- ban on GMO foods and crops
- legalization of production, sale and usage of cannabis
- eliminating "hate speech" laws and other tools made for suppressing public discourse

You really believe the global elite will allow this to happen in a country which is under their occupation already?

What's the alternative? Roll belly-up and die?

Enjoy the decline.

In other words, surrender to mindless hedonism.

(09-24-2015 10:56 AM)Caveman Wrote:  Enjoy the decline.

YMMV, of course, but I am capable of enjoying the decline while sparing a few hours or $20 to support a good cause. These are not opposing goals. Just look at Roosh!

(09-24-2015 10:56 AM)Caveman Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 10:36 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 10:36 AM)Caveman Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 09:26 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Political programme:

- taking Croatia out of the EU and NATO
- taking no more than a small number of actual refugees and strictly filtering and refusing all the rest by closing the border
- declaring all accumulated foreign debt illegal (declaring bankruptcy and refusing to pay any debts recklessly ran up by previous governments)
- taking control of the central bank and beginning to issue our own independent currency
- eliminating fractional reserve banking (by raising the reserve requirement to 100%)
- restoring the national control of vital national interests such as the energy sector, transportation, telecommunications, and banks
- impeachment and trials for judges and politicians who cucked for the outrageous abuses committed during privatisation or the reign of foreign banks in Croatia
- allowing freedom of choice regarding vaccination
- ban on GMO foods and crops
- legalization of production, sale and usage of cannabis
- eliminating "hate speech" laws and other tools made for suppressing public discourse

You really believe the global elite will allow this to happen in a country which is under their occupation already?

What's the alternative? Roll belly-up and die?

Enjoy the decline.

One of the chief reasons for this decline in particular is that too many people have accepted its 'enjoyment' as an inevitability.

You will never get millions of the average western man out on the streets like they did in Ukraine or any other Eastern Bloc country to change things. The fact your livelihood can go up in smoke by the likes of Anil Dash trolling your employers and customer base is too much of a burden for many.

I'll enjoy the hedonism but it doesn't mean I won't delve into the depths of depravity like many SJWs and politicians are doing, and I will almost certainly be watching my back and those of my friends and family which is what a man does best.

Instead of jumping for the stars I would prefer to start walking first.

(09-24-2015 09:26 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I hope that this is not against the forum rules - if yes, please tell me and I'll delete:
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Many evils have been identified in this thread as the factors that are working hard to bring down western civilization: the money elite, the unelected EU/USA bureaucrats running the show and the elected leaders cucking for them in defiance of the people, ludicrous immigration policies, western funding of terror groups all over the world...

The Croatian political party The Living Wall (Živi zid) has emerged as a stalwart opponent of all of these factors, winning 16% of the vote in the last presidential elections (in December 2014).

Political programme:

- taking Croatia out of the EU and NATO
- taking no more than a small number of actual refugees and strictly filtering and refusing all the rest by closing the border
- declaring all accumulated foreign debt illegal (declaring bankruptcy and refusing to pay any debts recklessly ran up by previous governments)
- taking control of the central bank and beginning to issue our own independent currency
- eliminating fractional reserve banking (by raising the reserve requirement to 100%)
- restoring the national control of vital national interests such as the energy sector, transportation, telecommunications, and banks
- impeachment and trials for judges and politicians who cucked for the outrageous abuses committed during privatisation or the reign of foreign banks in Croatia
- allowing freedom of choice regarding vaccination
- ban on GMO foods and crops
- legalization of production, sale and usage of cannabis
- eliminating "hate speech" laws and other tools made for suppressing public discourse

HCE - their program is excellent, but reads like a shortlist on how to get killed quickly as a politician. However if the general population - even some 20% of them realizes the scams, then humanity may have a chance to oust the bastards. But keep in mind that the money power will throw everything in their arsenal against those boys. There will be threats, murder attempts, money, women, honey-traps etc. - that's why such a thing cannot be won by individuals, because it only has a chance of succeeding when the population goes forward even when the figurehead is killed or bought off. Only when the people stop believing in the lies and elect only parties which reflect the main points, then we might have a small chance of change. Electing the "least evil" is just perpetuating the scam. There are small parties in Iceland and even Israel who have a similar interest free money program.

However that is a long way off from succeeding - you have to remember that there have been massive movements in the past - for example the Greenshirts in the UK with domonstrations of 300.000 people (that is tantamount to millions by current population level) - all demanding interest free money. What came from it? Nothing - squashed by the money power as usual - they have an infinite budget, all the media, the politicians and academia. The Green Shirts just had the truth and the support of part of the people - that is not enough.







Those guys were well-organized back then. But we can at least keep our fingers crossed.

(09-24-2015 10:57 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 10:56 AM)Caveman Wrote:  Enjoy the decline.

YMMV, of course, but I am capable of enjoying the decline while sparing a few hours or $20 to support a good cause. These are not opposing goals. Just look at Roosh!

Many people spared many dollars for Ron Paul's money bombs a few years ago.

Now they finally see through his son that he's been working for the establishment all this time.

To me and a few others his allegiance was obvious from the very beginning, but never mind he's still a good lesson for the many who woke up late.

You can also look at Syriza as the most obvious example how they betrayed their people.

As for Roosh, I'm not sure he's pursuing the best strategy (regarding his own self interest), but in any case you still can't compare yourself to him, at least he's got a monetizing model for his popularity which increases when he fights good causes.

(09-24-2015 11:12 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 09:26 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I hope that this is not against the forum rules - if yes, please tell me and I'll delete:
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Many evils have been identified in this thread as the factors that are working hard to bring down western civilization: the money elite, the unelected EU/USA bureaucrats running the show and the elected leaders cucking for them in defiance of the people, ludicrous immigration policies, western funding of terror groups all over the world...

The Croatian political party The Living Wall (Živi zid) has emerged as a stalwart opponent of all of these factors, winning 16% of the vote in the last presidential elections (in December 2014).

Political programme:

- taking Croatia out of the EU and NATO
- taking no more than a small number of actual refugees and strictly filtering and refusing all the rest by closing the border
- declaring all accumulated foreign debt illegal (declaring bankruptcy and refusing to pay any debts recklessly ran up by previous governments)
- taking control of the central bank and beginning to issue our own independent currency
- eliminating fractional reserve banking (by raising the reserve requirement to 100%)
- restoring the national control of vital national interests such as the energy sector, transportation, telecommunications, and banks
- impeachment and trials for judges and politicians who cucked for the outrageous abuses committed during privatisation or the reign of foreign banks in Croatia
- allowing freedom of choice regarding vaccination
- ban on GMO foods and crops
- legalization of production, sale and usage of cannabis
- eliminating "hate speech" laws and other tools made for suppressing public discourse

HCE - their program is excellent, but reads like a shortlist on how to get killed quickly as a politician. However if the general population - even some 20% of them realizes the scams, then humanity may have a chance to oust the bastards. But keep in mind that the money power will throw everything in their arsenal against those boys. There will be threats, murder attempts, money, women, honey-traps etc. - that's why such a thing cannot be won by individuals, because it only has a chance of succeeding when the population goes forward even when the figurehead is killed or bought off. Only when the people stop believing in the lies and elect only parties which reflect the main points, then we might have a small chance of change. Electing the "least evil" is just perpetuating the scam. There are small parties in Iceland and even Israel who have a similar interest free money program.

However that is a long way off from succeeding - you have to remember that there have been massive movements in the past - for example the Greenshirts in the UK with domonstrations of 300.000 people (that is tantamount to millions by current population level) - all demanding interest free money. What came from it? Nothing - squashed by the money power as usual - they have an infinite budget, all the media, the politicians and academia. The Green Shirts just had the truth and the support of part of the people - that is not enough.







Those guys were well-organized back then. But we can at least keep our fingers crossed.

Indeed, but look at the quality of the common man back then in the final photo you posted. The sense of pride, of good conduct and proper manners regardless of birth, of belonging to something that they had an obligation to uphold - and contrast it with the ill-dressed, unruly, uncouth rabbles that turn up to demonstrations and political rallies nowadays.

Photos like that are a stark illustration of how much damage has been done to the spirit and aspiration of the working man in the West.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/migr...cid=SMSDHP

That article really has some juicy bits:

Quote:There are well-dressed Iranians speaking Farsi who insist they are members of the persecuted Yazidis of Iraq. There are Indians who don’t speak Arabic but say they are from Damascus. There are Pakistanis, Albanians, Egyptians, Kosovars, Somalis and Tunisians from countries with plenty of poverty and violence, but no war.

It should come as no surprise that many migrants seem to be pretending they are someone else. The prize, after all, is the possibility of benefits, residency and work in Europe.

Good luck deporting them. The reporter somehow omits the fact that meanwhile almost the same amount of Central Africans are continuing to flood into Italy and Spain while the media is focused on this route.

Quote:Swimming in the river of humanity are shady characters, too, admitted criminals, Islamic State sympathizers and a couple of guys from Fallujah, one with a fresh bullet wound, who when asked their occupation seemed confused.

“Army,” said one. His friend corrected him. “We’re all drivers,” he said.

Ah - potential true story: "Fought for Al-quaeda for 1500-3000$/month (actual real wages - those buggers aren't fighting for free). Got shot. Medical help is lousy there. Need to come to Germany to tend to my wounds."

Quote:The refugees report that a forged Syrian passport can be bought on the Turkish border for as little as $200.

200$ and you are a Syrian. Refugees Welcome.

Quote:When asked by a reporter where they were from, the men answered, “We are from Syria.”

When a reporter switched to the North African dialect, the men laughed nervously. “We are Algerians,” they admitted.

Hamza, 27, is from Algiers. “I am illegal, not refugee,” he said. “In my country, the only thing you can do there is either drugs or crimes. So I was in prison several times, for drugs, also for trying to kill another guy.”

Haha - the reporter is so funny. Guess what Hamza, you won't find any job with your skills either, because I don't think that you are the cherry-picking kind who will work back-breaking labor for 1000EUR/month in Belgium when he can get 800EUR/month for playing Playstation in Germany. It is rather more likely that you will pick up on your old job skills and go back to dealing drugs and killing people. #blessedEU Those are the people that Europe desperately needs to fill in their demographic holes and "contribute" to their pensions.

Quote:“We flew to Istanbul and then took a bus to Izmir. There we destroyed our passports and just mixed with the Syrian refugees. We then took the boat from Izmir to Greece. From there to Macedonia, Serbia, Hungary and now we are in Vienna,” he said.

Did Hamza feel guilty? Not at all.

“It’s really easy now to travel with these refugees. We received food and shelter, and a nice welcoming from people so far.”

He said he has met Tunisians, Moroccans and Libyans playing the same game.

Of course it's easy. The European elite has decided to betray it's people, so why shouldn't you take advantage of it. You were likely even welcomed by a bunch of brainwashed SJWs who were singing Kumbaya in the train station.

Hm - I wonder what the Europeans would have done in the early 20th century?

Europe of course should do what Saudi Arabia would do - I wonder what that would be when an army of illegals try to cross the border?




Saudi tank battalion welcoming potential refugees on the Iraqi border.

The only good thing about this crisis is that more people start to mistrust the mainstream media. We will see what what happens, Trump is another sign that the people are getting fed up and prefer a straight-talking billionaire to a sniveling liar.

Quote:You can also look at Syriza as the most obvious example how they betrayed their people.

Come on, surely Syriza betraying people doesn't mean that every party is going to do the same, especially a party that is not heavily based on ridiculous leftism like Syriza is. The Living Wall has been a very harsh critic of Syriza, openly calling Tsipras out on his high treason and slamming the Greek people for voting for him again.

I just don't get the defeatist attitude. Yes, the forces arrayed against them in Croatia and the world are very strong, but is that a reason to just give up completely? Why are we even having this 96-page thread and spending inordinate amounts of time compiling examples of EU's hypocrisy when it's impossible to do anything?

Supporting this party by giving them a few $ and destroying some trolls on their Facebook or mainstream media news articles isn't preventing me from hustling and advancing on my plan to leave Croatia. Again, one thing doesn't exclude another.

(09-24-2015 09:38 AM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  From US News:

12:20 p.m.

Norway's domestic intelligence agency says the influx of migrants has a consequence for the general threat assessment in the country, mainly in the potential for a backlash.

More than 2,800 people, mainly Syrians, have sought shelter in Norway so far in Norway in September.

Siv Alsen of the PST security police says there is a potential that left-wing groups rallying to support refugee-related cases and "can lead to counter-reactions and violent clashes" with right-wing extremists.

In Thursday's statement, Alsen said asylum-seekers linked to radical Islamism are "not a central concern" in the short term, adding the main threat comes primarily from people born or raised in Norway.

The country expects to receive up to 20,000 asylum-seekers this year, compared to 11,480 people in 2014.

I like to Cuck! and I cannot lie
All you other brothers won't deny
When a "refugee" walks in
With a big wide grin
And waves a huge knife in my face
I get Sprung! Wanna open my ass
To a big cock from Madras

I haven't studied Social Credit in great detail but I am favourable to what I have read so far.

It is a well kept secret that Social Credit became extremely popular within the White British Empire and the USA (what we term the Anglosphere).

The movement was supported well by WW1 veterans who saw the ghastly waste of life so that usurious war pedlars could profit.

(09-24-2015 09:38 AM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  From US News:

12:20 p.m.

Norway's domestic intelligence agency says the influx of migrants has a consequence for the general threat assessment in the country, mainly in the potential for a backlash.

More than 2,800 people, mainly Syrians, have sought shelter in Norway so far in Norway in September.

Siv Alsen of the PST security police says there is a potential that left-wing groups rallying to support refugee-related cases and "can lead to counter-reactions and violent clashes" with right-wing extremists.

In Thursday's statement, Alsen said asylum-seekers linked to radical Islamism are "not a central concern" in the short term, adding the main threat comes primarily from people born or raised in Norway.

The country expects to receive up to 20,000 asylum-seekers this year, compared to 11,480 people in 2014.

Definition:

^ "Right wing extremists" : 1. Orwellian newspeak for those who wish to resist the balkanization of their countries. 2. Orwellian newspeak for those who oppose the new world order/schemes of the left wing /cultural marxist elites.

Sometimes I find it very difficult to differentiate between cynicism and cowardice in opinions.

(09-24-2015 10:56 AM)Caveman Wrote:  Enjoy the decline.

Very original and inspiring.

(09-24-2015 11:37 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I just don't get the defeatist attitude. Yes, the forces arrayed against them in Croatia and the world are very strong, but is that a reason to just give up completely? Why are we even having this 96-page thread and spending inordinate amounts of time compiling examples of EU's hypocrisy when it's impossible to do anything?

This 96-page thread is for a small group of enlightened people to share information of what's really going on out there. It's not meant for public consumption although it is publicly available on the internet.

And my attitude is not defeatist at all. I just don't care about the 90% sheeple population when they don't care for themselves in the first place.

I'm only concerned how this whole crisis will affect me and my future and a few people around me that I care about.

(09-24-2015 11:37 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Come on, surely Syriza betraying people doesn't mean that every party is going to do the same...

I just don't get the defeatist attitude...

Ignore it. This is a mindset of massive inward thinking. Nothing against caveman, but there won't be any enjoyment to some decline when you house becomes a de facto castle against roving barbarians of various assortments and the eventual take over by a foreign power. You won't be able to escape to a neutral culture. Why? Your money will be made meaningless when the dam breaks sooner than expected and South America, Russia and the Pacific won't accept anyone but the earliest arrivals once it's apparent what's happening. Not all skillsets are as transferable as we hope when they've become degraded in value worldwide.

A men's forum, but everyone wants to run. I'm kind of bewildered. It only appears as the easier alternative when staying to object, fight or rally is the more direct answer in actuality.

Wherever productive men run off to, the elites will make sure the easily controlled third world masses will follow so that's a losing strategy right from the start.

A girl from Tinder I text ever so often is a German 7.5 and is living there until the end of this year.

This is her view on the ground.

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(09-24-2015 12:37 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 11:37 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Come on, surely Syriza betraying people doesn't mean that every party is going to do the same...

I just don't get the defeatist attitude...

Ignore it. This is a mindset of massive inward thinking. Nothing against caveman, but there won't be any enjoyment to some decline when you house becomes a de facto castle against roving barbarians of various assortments and the eventual take over by a foreign power. You won't be able to escape to a neutral culture. Why? Your money will be made meaningless when the dam breaks sooner than expected and South America, Russia and the Pacific won't accept anyone but the earliest arrivals once it's apparent what's happening. Not all skillsets are as transferable as we hope when they've become degraded in value worldwide.

A men's forum, but everyone wants to run. I'm kind of bewildered. It only appears as the easier alternative when staying to object, fight or rally is the more direct answer in actuality.

Well look. I completely agree with you, and in fact made that same point in the past, that at the end of the day, there will be nowhere to run.

But there is no point in fighting, either. Why? Because the people you are fighting for are in fact your biggest enemies. How do you save a drowning man who crazily believes the act of drowning offers some sort of salvation, and maniacally slashes with a knife at all who would come near him? Because that is what is going on in the West. The third world invasion is flooding Europe, but the Europeans would destroy anyone who tries to even stop the tsunami, let alone start draining the water already there. Yes, public opinion shows most people are against immigration. But tell them that you vote for the "far right" and these very same fools will shun you like the plague and do their utmost so that you lose your livelihood. If you take any physical action against the invaders, the police state will come down on your skull like a bag of depleted uranium with full support of the populace.

The only solution, such as it is, is to find the highest ground you can and stay dry for as long as possible. With any luck, you'll be dead before the floodwaters reach the mountain top.