(04-16-2019 02:26 PM)Oberrheiner Wrote:  

(04-15-2019 04:00 PM)911 Wrote:  Churches have been under attack for a several decades now, but the main culprits are atheist/satanist terrorists, who have had the deep state's backing in their centuries-old war on Christianity. Someone like Varg Vikernes, who has burned down nearly a dozen churches in Scandinavia back in the 1990s. The great majority of cemetery desecrations in France and other parts of Europe are by hateful atheists/satanists.

This is just not true.
There are no real satanists in france, trust me I've looked for them.

Sometimes you will find some who pretend they are, sure - it's usually over when they turn 18
Those might do some stupid things in cemeteries when drunk, yes, but nobody can take them as a serious threat, come on.

The old mai-68 generation on the other hand yes, many have an intense hatred for christianity but not only, for their country and civilization too.
They also comprise most of the troops in all those non-profits who support "migrants" and other no-borders bullshit.

Well ok one could argue that there are indeed satanists (depending on your definition I guess) but then you don't know about them and they don't desecrate tombs in the countryside, that's for sure.

I think that 911 has converted to Islam and is busy prepping his suicide belt.

They good boys, they did nothing wrong:



10 churches attacked in France in just one week in 2019:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/110...llipe-isis

875 churches have been vandalized in France in 2018 - the overwhelming amount done by inbred Muslims:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8804063/fr...-heritage/

You have to be in Lala-land to believe that Muslims are anything but peaceful. Sure - Jewish groups brought them here and are lobbying for opening the borders, sure - secret services were doing and are doing false flags, but no one is forcing Muslims to rampage through Europe destroying churches, raping women and doing crime at rates of 4000% of the locals!

The false flags are usually major incidences and hardly register. There have been at least 2 major terrorist attacks stopped against Notre Damme.

Muslims are destroying church properties not only in France, but in Germany and Italy as well:





Obviously the reports don't get the credit for now.

And yes - the Jewish media for now wants to keep it at a down-low. They don't want the people to stop migration. They need more Muslims in Europe to trigger a future conflict and then later have the Christians and Chinese help them wipe out most Muslims from earth.

Or maybe it's just part and parcel of the future totalitarian state. Though the plans for the Middle East must be total subjugation and war since there is no other way to conquer those places for the Rainbow Flag and joint masturbation sessions in the classrooms.

(04-15-2019 02:59 AM)rockoman Wrote:  I live in Germany.

A few days back I got talking to this guy at a social occasion. It turned out he's an immigration lawyer working knee-deep in the refugee industry.

He told me that he thinks the authorities here are systematically favouring male over female refugees/migrants. So, that whereas women will feel the full force of the law and have their applications rejected if there is some problem, the system will bend over backwards to be lenient to male migrants. He offered no explanation, but this was his opinion as someone working day in day out in this area.

Make of that what you will.

I've been wondering about a similar thing for years now.

I'm half Danish and went to Bosnia in April of 2012. When I was there, I met a muslim who spoke Danish perfectly. He had moved to Denmark as a refugee from the war but was later expelled despite doing his best to assimilate. He complained that the Bosniak muslims were the only ones to get educations and jobs in Denmark, but were then expelled.

I wondered why this was while walking in Sarajevo, until I noticed that often Bozniak woman under 30 look like this:



And other muslim women in Denmark have the usual goat herder inbred look.

Basically, he has been expelled because Danish women did not want to compete with his female cousins.

Instead, Denmark gets enriched with vibrants like this:





It's been clear to me for a while that immigration policy in the west is driven by women voters who want to tilt the sexual market scales in their favor.

(04-16-2019 05:04 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Obviously the reports don't get the credit for now.

And yes - the Jewish media for now wants to keep it at a down-low. They don't want the people to stop migration. They need more Muslims in Europe to trigger a future conflict and then later have the Christians and Chinese help them wipe out most Muslims from earth.

Or maybe it's just part and parcel of the future totalitarian state. Though the plans for the Middle East must be total subjugation and war since there is no other way to conquer those places for the Rainbow Flag and joint masturbation sessions in the classrooms.

I'm pretty sure there isn't any real plan, it's just the normal ossification of late-stage-civilization where the entrenched elites are totally out of touch with the realities on the ground and what few competent or sensible officials there may be are powerless to change anything.

Only when Western European cities are utter ghettos, most of the ancient cathedrals are burned or renovated into diversity centers, and life for the average person reduced to something like postwar Germany will people wake up. By then the local governments will have fully imported Chinese surveillance and censorship via the Belt and Road, and then Europe have their perfectly tolerant globohomo police states.

< Funny - yeah - the CFR historian Carroll Quigley must have been crazy and the Reece commission on foundations that went into globalist foundation centers must have been all speaking of fake documents. And funny how the uncovered things from the 1950s fit perfectly 80 years down the line, funny how the protocols are incredibly fitting, funny how guys like George Bush sr. quip: "I don't watch news, because I know what will happen."

It's one of those things that people come up with: "It all just happens....." Yeah - until you are like Charlotte Thomson in the Reagan administration and find papers planning out the educational destruction of the American people. The current leaders don't just sit back - they plan, scheme and hire the best people to help them do it.

https://voiceofeurope.com/2019/03/2019-c...ut-france/

A lot of churches get attacked by the feral Muslims.

As for Bosnians being sent back - the more integrated a group is, the more European they are in genome, the less the globalists want them. I read cases of Swedish-American girls being deported who spoke perfect Swedish and whose grandparents have moved to the US just 80 years ago. Yes - they deport girls like that, but accept Ahmed the former ISIS fighter, his 4 teenage brides and his pension-drawing grandperents who haven't worked a day in Sweden. And they all get 4 houses and plenty of welfare. Meanwhile the blonde Swedish girl gets deported.

(04-16-2019 08:47 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  I'm half Danish and went to Bosnia in April of 2012. When I was there, I met a muslim who spoke Danish perfectly. He had moved to Denmark as a refugee from the war but was later expelled despite doing his best to assimilate. He complained that the Bosniak muslims were the only ones to get educations and jobs.

Indeed, Bosnians are merely former Croats and Serbs that have undergone 500 years of Islamization by the Ottoman Empire, with a minimal amount of international mixing with their Turkish overlords. They have nothing in common with the barbaric scum of Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia.

The Bosnians might not be the cream of the crop like the Czech, but in essence they're still perfectly nice Slavic-European people.

^Yes, but what is most interesting is why did they become muslims in the first place. Ottoman occupation is not the main reason, as Serbia was occupied vassal state decades earlier and didn't accept Islam, which Ottomans didn't hold against them and just decided to tax them more (jizya).

The main reason is that Church of Bosnia and various Gnostic teachings were extremely weak in producing cultural and moral cohesiveness of Bosnian people and Bosnians saw opportunity in new religion, Islam, to get their cohesiveness, which they did, even though we could easily argue modern Bosnians are not "true" muslims and would likely be considered heretic by various Islamic sects.

(04-16-2019 08:47 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  

(04-15-2019 02:59 AM)rockoman Wrote:  I live in Germany.

A few days back I got talking to this guy at a social occasion. It turned out he's an immigration lawyer working knee-deep in the refugee industry.

He told me that he thinks the authorities here are systematically favouring male over female refugees/migrants. So, that whereas women will feel the full force of the law and have their applications rejected if there is some problem, the system will bend over backwards to be lenient to male migrants. He offered no explanation, but this was his opinion as someone working day in day out in this area.

Make of that what you will.

I've been wondering about a similar thing for years now.

I'm half Danish and went to Bosnia in April of 2012. When I was there, I met a muslim who spoke Danish perfectly. He had moved to Denmark as a refugee from the war but was later expelled despite doing his best to assimilate. He complained that the Bosniak muslims were the only ones to get educations and jobs in Denmark, but were then expelled.

I wondered why this was while walking in Sarajevo, until I noticed that often Bozniak woman under 30 look like this:



And other muslim women in Denmark have the usual goat herder inbred look.

Basically, he has been expelled because Danish women did not want to compete with his female cousins.

Instead, Denmark gets enriched with vibrants like this:





It's been clear to me for a while that immigration policy in the west is driven by women voters who want to tilt the sexual market scales in their favor.

A case from the city of Nürnberg here in Germany a couple of years ago.

A middle-aged doctor had married a young Thai woman and brought her back here. The immigration authority discovered some mistake in their paperwork. I'm not sure now what it was but it was minimal.

Instead of contacting the couple in the normal way to get it sorted out, the immigration people waited one morning until the doctor had driven to work. They then knocked on the door, took the wife into custody, drove her to the airport and put her on the plane to Bangkok. She wasn't even allowed to phone her husband to tell him what was happening. He didn't speak to her until she called from Thailand after she landed there.

The couple then had to apply again and wait one year for the woman to rejoin her husband.

(04-17-2019 06:35 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  ^Yes, but what is most interesting is why did they become muslims in the first place. Ottoman occupation is not the main reason, as Serbia was occupied vassal state decades earlier and didn't accept Islam, which Ottomans didn't hold against them and just decided to tax them more (jizya).

The main reason is that Church of Bosnia and various Gnostic teachings were extremely weak in producing cultural and moral cohesiveness of Bosnian people and Bosnians saw opportunity in new religion, Islam, to get their cohesiveness, which they did, even though we could easily argue modern Bosnians are not "true" muslims and would likely be considered heretic by various Islamic sects.

When you live under Islamic rule, then there are many reasons why people convert:

+ Jizya tax too crippling for the poor
+ economic opportunities as a Muslim
+ Muslim marrying a Christian woman = children are automatically Muslim even if the woman did not convert. Marriages of Muslim women to Christian men certainly did not happen under the Ottomans, so you had a constant one-way street even if it was just 1-2% of women per generation.
+ some men converted in order to have 4 wives and fuck any girls they wanted on the side legally (in Islam that is explicitly allowed if you can afford it)

The jizya tax is not to be brushed aside - it's probably the strongest incentive for conversions later on and at times the Muslim states did a temporary stop on conversions because their income was affected too much by it.

But it's all moot anyway. The immigration sheisters are ousting the more integrated people out first. The Christian NGOs even recommend to Middle Eastern immigrants to feign being Muslim. They say that more law-abiding Christians are deported far more likely than Muslims. A Thai wife is certainly unlikely to cause trouble, but the assholes would likely import 2 mio. Rohinga Muslims instantly if they could.

(04-17-2019 06:35 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  ^Yes, but what is most interesting is why did they become muslims in the first place. Ottoman occupation is not the main reason, as Serbia was occupied vassal state decades earlier and didn't accept Islam, which Ottomans didn't hold against them and just decided to tax them more (jizya).

The main reason is that Church of Bosnia and various Gnostic teachings were extremely weak in producing cultural and moral cohesiveness of Bosnian people and Bosnians saw opportunity in new religion, Islam, to get their cohesiveness, which they did, even though we could easily argue modern Bosnians are not "true" muslims and would likely be considered heretic by various Islamic sects.

Wrong. This is what Bosnian Muslims (Bosniaks) want you to believe, because nobody wants to admit that their ancestors were Croats/Serbs, who converted to Islam in order to get better treatment. Can't blame them for that.


First and foremost, your thesis that their ancestors were Gnostics (which was proposed by Franjo Rački, if I am not mistaken, back in the 19th century) was proven incorrect even during the time of old Yugoslavia - there weren't any artifacts, and proof that Gnostics were present in Bosnia. Also, the Ottoman records did not mention them at all - and they were meticulous when they conducted their population censuses.


Instead, the Gnostics you mentioned were only present in Bulgaria, where they were called Bogumili ("favored by God" in most South Slavic languages). In Bosnia, they were never present - the Bosnian Church was, and they had nothing in common with the Gnostics in Bulgaria.


The Bosnian Church was a heretical church, primarily because Bosnia (and parts of Croatia) were, during that time, relatively isolated from the rest of the world because of very rough terrain (if you have ever been to Bosnia and Dalmatian hinterlands you would see why). That isolation caused the local Catholics (Bosnian Church was a Catholic heresy) to develop some unique characteristics. It's adherents were called "krstjani" (Christians). Eventually, Rome sent priests (Franciscans) to straighten things up. They succeeded in that task, and, by the time the Ottomans invaded, they were all but extinct. Again, if you don't believe me, refer to the Ottoman population census.


If your thesis was true, Bosnia would be majority Muslim 20 years after the Ottomans took over (because of mass conversions of Gnostics to Islam). Instead, Bosnia became majority Muslim in 18th century, due to mass population shifts that occurred in that century (Treaty of Karlovitz/Sremski Karlovci of 1699).

(04-17-2019 05:47 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  < Funny - yeah - the CFR historian Carroll Quigley must have been crazy and the Reece commission on foundations that went into globalist foundation centers must have been all speaking of fake documents. And funny how the uncovered things from the 1950s fit perfectly 80 years down the line, funny how the protocols are incredibly fitting, funny how guys like George Bush sr. quip: "I don't watch news, because I know what will happen."

It's one of those things that people come up with: "It all just happens....." Yeah - until you are like Charlotte Thomson in the Reagan administration and find papers planning out the educational destruction of the American people. The current leaders don't just sit back - they plan, scheme and hire the best people to help them do it.

Of course they do all that. The elites always think themselves omnipotent because they have money and status, so of course they'll hire people and pull strings to try to reshape things the way they see fit. But even though they want to play God, they're just self-deluded coddled fools.

This is how all civilizations rise and fall. The founders are competent and establish a culture of order and conscientiousness. The hierarchy protects a privileged class, which becomes more and more entrenched at the cost of competency. They think they have intrinsic qualities that make them more deserving of their positions than others, or worse, that their beliefs are the unshakable truth.

Don't let yourself be confused by the fact that many of the elites are massive hypocrites (like "open-minded," "tolerant" liberals living in mostly white, expensive West Coast cities while flyover country conservative "racists" are barely hanging on to their blue collar jobs in workplaces they share with blacks and Latinos). They are addicted to all the twisted values they preach, and are completely willing to impose them on society even while awkwardly avoiding them in their private lives. It's like a video game for them because it's entertaining, gives them meaning, and they don't feel like they have anything to lose from promoting their virtue-signalling garbage. They are too lazy or scared to look at the facts that would destroy their skewed worldview.

Quote:As for Bosnians being sent back - the more integrated a group is, the more European they are in genome, the less the globalists want them. I read cases of Swedish-American girls being deported who spoke perfect Swedish and whose grandparents have moved to the US just 80 years ago. Yes - they deport girls like that, but accept Ahmed the former ISIS fighter, his 4 teenage brides and his pension-drawing grandperents who haven't worked a day in Sweden. And they all get 4 houses and plenty of welfare. Meanwhile the blonde Swedish girl gets deported.

The elites follow a religion of diversity. They like to see third-worlders filling their countries because it makes them feel the warm glow of change, reminding them of what a splendid job they're doing of making a clear break with the evil Nazi/colonial/intolerant past.

Things will continue like this. The deluded European elites will drag out the decline of their system by relying on Chinese tech and increasingly totalitarian methods to divide and crush opposition. Trump is offering Europe the freedom and national integrity that America promised its allies during the Cold War, but the Europeans would rather sell out to the communist Chinese rather than be forced to change their ways and admit that most of what they stand for is wrong.

I wonder what western Europe with a plurality of Muslims and full of Chinese money and political influence would look like. Once Beijing gets enough of a hold on the European leaders, and mass migration threatens economic collapse, we might see surviving enclaves of Western civilization preserved here and there for purely commercial value. Certain districts of places like Venice and Paris would be kept pretty and safe in a touristy, sanitized form so that the daughters of Chinese bureaucrats and businessmen can take selfies as they walk around these "romantic" locales while holding umbrellas to avoid sunburn.

Meanwhile, with the evaporation of social welfare and economic competitiveness, native Europeans not fortunate enough to be in the pay of rich foreigners would be consigned to fend for themselves in their multicultural ghettos. Racial tensions will simmer at a low boil, again kept in check courtesy of advanced police state tech to avoid active civil war. Only then will the elite will no longer pretend to care about a future of equality, tolerance, or progress. Instead, they'll be jaded functionaries thinking only of ways to keep the Chinese investing in their failed states.

(04-16-2019 05:04 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  I think that 911 has converted to Islam and is busy prepping his suicide belt.

lol I don't know him enough to say that, but several people here have recently evolved in more extreme directions and I'm not sure how this is good if I'm honest.
I wanted to say something about it in the notre dame thread but I (and many others I'm sure) are grieving so it's not the moment for such discussions.

In any case I can understand why someone would think that, the satanic scare has been pushed hard by many media, both mainstream and the underground/reinformation type.
However it's just not true, there is no real satanic movement in france.

I can only assume 911 was kidding when mentioning vikernes

(04-17-2019 06:20 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(04-16-2019 08:47 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  I'm half Danish and went to Bosnia in April of 2012. When I was there, I met a muslim who spoke Danish perfectly. He had moved to Denmark as a refugee from the war but was later expelled despite doing his best to assimilate. He complained that the Bosniak muslims were the only ones to get educations and jobs.

Indeed, Bosnians are merely former Croats and Serbs that have undergone 500 years of Islamization by the Ottoman Empire, with a minimal amount of international mixing with their Turkish overlords. They have nothing in common with the barbaric scum of Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia.

The Bosnians might not be the cream of the crop like the Czech, but in essence they're still perfectly nice Slavic-European people.

No kidding. One thing that really sent that message home was that after 3 days of arriving in Sarajevo from Istanbul, I suddenly realized "I haven't heard the call to prayer once in a city full of mosques". I cannot say that I found the calls to prayer in Istanbul or Cairo very charming. It was mostly just poor recordings played obnoxiously loud on cheap speakers, little different than a 14 year old blasting hair metal from his parents' garage.

I actually stopped locals in the street to ask them if they had the call to prayer. They said of course we do. I had trouble believing them so I set my alarm for 11:59 AM the next day. When I stopped to listen after my alarm went off, I could just barely hear what sure sounded like mullahs singing it live from the minarets without amplification. The church bells of Copenhagen are deafening by comparison.

While Istanbul was much more historically interesting, I would much rather live in Sarajevo, even if the girls were less attractive and the food and booze were worse (they are not).

Interestingly I do not remember hearing it either in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia either, though I was only there for 30 hours.

You never heard an ezzan in Sarajevo?

Weird. I spent most of my early years there, and I was hearing it frequently.


And I have yet to finish the datasheet of that town. It's 2 or so years in the making.

God...I am lazy.

(04-17-2019 05:46 PM)Irenicus Wrote:  You never heard an ezzan in Sarajevo?

Weird. I spent most of my early years there, and I was hearing it frequently.


And I have yet to finish the datasheet of that town. It's 2 or so years in the making.

God...I am lazy.

I went all over the old city, the not so old city, and the new suburbs to the west for a week. I even went to Mostar for a day. If I did hear it, it was quiet enough that it did not register until I intentionally stopped in order to make sure that I heard it. That was not the case in Instanbul or Cairo where it was annoyingly ear splitting, but it may have been in Kuala Lumpur.

This was 7 years ago. Things may have changed.

I think that's a very interesting theory that western European women, many of whom are feminist and far-leftist support this mass immigration of predominantly Muslim men from destabilized countries to tilt the balance of the sexual marketplace highly in their favor.

With total power in the sexual marketplace they also control native population growth to an extent and can further subvert the men in their country. If the theory holds true it could really be a well orchestrated power play by the feminist movement.

If you look at the elections and political parties in Europe its mostly leftist women that support the liberal pro-refugee and immigration parties.

But if the roles were reverse and there were hundreds of thousands of Eastern European or Asian women wanting to take refuge in Western Europe all of sudden the immigration laws tighten.

Russian woman = prostitute. They're not competitive in the LTR market. Asians maybe.

(04-17-2019 09:12 PM)Design Engineer Wrote:  I think that's a very interesting theory that western European women, many of whom are feminist and far-leftist support this mass immigration of predominantly Muslim men from destabilized countries to tilt the balance of the sexual marketplace highly in their favor.

….

But if the roles were reverse and there were hundreds of thousands of Eastern European or Asian women wanting to take refuge in Western Europe all of sudden the immigration laws tighten.

I honestly believe that a significant force behind European hostility towards Russia is fear of '''unfair competition''' from 80m Russian women.

Not saying its the only reason, or even the no.1 reason, but I strongly believe there are such forces in play. Especially in the more liberal, western European countries which were never in the Soviet block, nor had other direct issues/wars with Russia (eg UK, France, Spain etc).

(04-17-2019 06:36 AM)rockoman Wrote:  A case from the city of Nürnberg here in Germany a couple of years ago.

A middle-aged doctor had married a young Thai woman and brought her back here. The immigration authority discovered some mistake in their paperwork. I'm not sure now what it was but it was minimal.

Instead of contacting the couple in the normal way to get it sorted out, the immigration people waited one morning until the doctor had driven to work. They then knocked on the door, took the wife into custody, drove her to the airport and put her on the plane to Bangkok. She wasn't even allowed to phone her husband to tell him what was happening. He didn't speak to her until she called from Thailand after she landed there.

The couple then had to apply again and wait one year for the woman to rejoin her husband.

Are there perhaps any news articles about this? It's absolutely outrageous!

(04-16-2019 02:26 PM)Oberrheiner Wrote:  

(04-15-2019 04:00 PM)911 Wrote:  Churches have been under attack for a several decades now, but the main culprits are atheist/satanist terrorists, who have had the deep state's backing in their centuries-old war on Christianity. Someone like Varg Vikernes, who has burned down nearly a dozen churches in Scandinavia back in the 1990s. The great majority of cemetery desecrations in France and other parts of Europe are by hateful atheists/satanists.

This is just not true.
There are no real satanists in france, trust me I've looked for them.

Sometimes you will find some who pretend they are, sure - it's usually over when they turn 18
Those might do some stupid things in cemeteries when drunk, yes, but nobody can take them as a serious threat, come on.

The old mai-68 generation on the other hand yes, many have an intense hatred for christianity but not only, for their country and civilization too.
They also comprise most of the troops in all those non-profits who support "migrants" and other no-borders bullshit.

Well ok one could argue that there are indeed satanists (depending on your definition I guess) but then you don't know about them and they don't desecrate tombs in the countryside, that's for sure.

This is a map with all the church attacks/destructions in the last 4 years:



The pattern of geographical distribution above simply doesn't match that of the muslim "racaille". You have "heartland" areas like the Morbihan and Finistère (south and west of Brittany for you yanks) that have very few muslims, and yet are just riddled with church attacks. The RER does not go to Laval, perhaps do you think the islamothugs hitchhiked there from the "93"?!?

As well, the kind of ritual desacration described in the reports like the spreading of feces on church walls, or the wonton defiling of religious artifacts without stealing any of the valuables in the church, those patterns of degeneracy are much more consistent with radical anticlerical hatred than with the muslim brand.

Here's an example of a church in Dordogne (which the Brits on here are familiar with), hardly a hotspot for muzzie thugs, where the vandals smeared feces in the shape of a cross on the walls...100% satanist/radical degenerates:

Quote:A spate of Catholic churched were vandalised in just seven days across France

...On February 5, an altar cloth was found burnt and crosses and statues torn down or disfigured at the recently refurbished Saint-Alain Cathedral in Lavaur, in south-central France.

The fire was found early by a parish secretary and did not spread - but the altar and adjacent walls were badly damaged by smoke.

Following the incident, local district deputy Jean Terlier said in a statement: “I strongly condemn the vandalism of Lavaur Cathedral and I share the outrage aroused by this intolerable act.”

And Lavaur city mayor Bernard Canyon said: “God will forgive. Not me.”

On February 6, just a day after the Saint-Alain Cathedral incident, vandals at Notre-Dame des Enfants (Our Lady of the Children) church in Nimes broke into the tabernacle and scattered altar hosts on the ground.

According to local news reports, the vandals also drew a cross on the wall with human excrement and damaged other religious items in the church


“The sign of the cross and the Blessed Sacrament have been the subject of serious injurious actions.”

Day later, on February 9, a similar attack occurred at the Church of Notre-Dame de Dijon, Côte-d'Or, about 175 miles south-east of Paris.

The tabernacle was opened and the Eucharist scattered, while the altar cloth was soiled and a sacred missal was torn.

According to Le Bien Public, Notre-Dame Father Emmanuel Pic believed the vandals wanted to show anger towards the “heart of the Catholic faith” as nothing of monetary value was stolen.

Guys like Zelcorpion/SS who are muzzie obsessed, weened on ZOG, and who know very little about W. Europe wouldn't get any of this, you won't hear any of it on Paul Joseph Watson (or on cucked alt-right French sites like Riposte Laïque for that matter).

Quote:This is just not true.
There are no real satanists in france, trust me I've looked for them.

France has been ruled by satanists for the last two centuries, with few interruptions. People like Bernard Henri Levi, Jacques Attali, Jack Lang (who has participated in satanic pedo orgies where children were raped to death in atrocious circumstances), frankist banker tribes like the Rothschilds, Pierre Bergé and Yves St-Laurent, Mitterrand, and now Macron.

Satanism is not just about goth kids larping, there is a hardcore masonic anti-Christian cabal that has been hard at work for three centuries now. Real satanists don't have inverted pentagrams branded on their foreheads, they are adepts of the kabbalah, the zohar, Cathare heresies, luciferian materialism and masonic dogmas. Nearly every minister of education has been a freemason pushing their dogma and subverting our ethics, here you have former education minister Vincent Peillon laying it out in the open, saying that Catholicism must be replaced by a masonic kabbalistic dogma.

Quote:I can only assume 911 was kidding when mentioning vikernes

And yes Rheiner, Varg did torch a dozen churches in Norway, that is a fact. Churches have been set on fire for decades in Europe, well before Abdul and Mohamed showed up in Oslo. Do you think there are fewer characters like Varg today running around than in the 1990s?

(04-17-2019 09:12 PM)Design Engineer Wrote:  I think that's a very interesting theory that western European women, many of whom are feminist and far-leftist support this mass immigration of predominantly Muslim men from destabilized countries to tilt the balance of the sexual marketplace highly in their favor.

With total power in the sexual marketplace they also control native population growth to an extent and can further subvert the men in their country. If the theory holds true it could really be a well orchestrated power play by the feminist movement.

If you look at the elections and political parties in Europe its mostly leftist women that support the liberal pro-refugee and immigration parties.

But if the roles were reverse and there were hundreds of thousands of Eastern European or Asian women wanting to take refuge in Western Europe all of sudden the immigration laws tighten.

Another data point from years ago on the forum:
Swedes marrying Thai's

Hooligan Harry:

Quote:Now this is a chuckle if ever I have seen one. There are tons of Aussies marrying Thai, Indonesian and Filipino women in Aus, and not the first or second generation immigrants either. They are finding these women in their own home countries.

Very often its the older guys, 40-55 who have been ass raped in the divorce courts and dont want to deal with an Aussie bird again. You see them walking around all over the place hand in hand with younger Asian women, often with a pram or young children.

Now you can imagine this pisses off the local women no end. They accuse them of being sex tourists, predators, losers, you name it. There is the constant shaming about the abuse these women must suffer at the hands of these guys who "are such losers that they could not get local woman to marry them". There are also more and more men admitting that their wives are taking abuse directly from Aussie women too. Who would think all these strong, independent Australian women could be so threatened by silly little Asian farm girls?

Who would have thought though that Sweden, SWEDEN, would now be home to the most foreign Thai brides in the world? The response to it is funny as fuck, because you can see how the local woman are now clamoring for laws that prevent men from taking foreign wives. I thought it would be Australia, but its a cold, North European country 20 bazillion miles from Thailand instead.

Quote: Sweden has emerged as the country with the highest percentage of local men with Thai wives or life partners.

As well as a growing number of Thai workers travelling to Sweden as seasonal workers, the number of Thai women arriving in Sweden has increased three fold over the last 10 years. Over 80% of Thai immigrants to Sweden are relationship partners or Thai wives of Swedish men and Sweden, like Germany has a long tradition of men seeking Thai women as life partners. Sweden is one of a few countries where there is now a second and third generation Thai community which still maintains very close links with Thailand. However, the increased levels of younger Thai women now entering Sweden has now become a political issue.

Last year, a female governor of one rural Swedish province requested that the government look into this situation, investigate abuse and perhaps even limit the number of Thai women permitted into the country. She has now been given a mandate from the Swedish government to investigate the trend although government agencies and leading academic have also conductive a qualitative studies into the nature of the growing number of relationships between Swedish men and Thai women. Although Sweden portrays itself to be one of the more liberal countries in Europe, the Swedish government is concerned with this as immigration becomes a powerful and divisive political issue.

In fact, the Swedish government has had several issues to deal with. In spite of it representing its country as liberal and progressive, Swedes has been putting their government under pressure to investigate such issues as gay and lesbian marriages, the ordination of lesbian bishops and the growth of the sex industry in Sweden, including the large numbers of Thai massage parlours in Stockholm.

Those lobbying the Swedish government highlight the number of Thai women who appear to be discarded by their male Swedish partners or seek help from Sweden's welfare agencies. Women's groups claim many Thai women have been subjected to abuse by Swedish men. However, like Finland and Norway, while there are documented cases of abuse, most relationships between Thai women and Swedish men are successful. Although there is no accurate data on relationship breakdown between Thai women who marry Swedish men, it is likely to be lower than the overall divorce rate in Sweden which is now nearly 55%. One UK man living in Sweden estimates that over 85% of marriages between Thai women and Swedish men are successful.

http://www.thailovelines.com/Frontinfo/t...weden.html

Thanks 911 for providing an alternative viewpoint, it's important to have such voices otherwise we run the risk of succumbing to groupthink.
As for myself, am in Switzerland for a little while and will update the thread with my observations in coming days.

One of the hardest things to reconcile with is the implications of accepting that satanic forces are real.

If you accept that to be true then you must also accept that satanists are the beneficiaries of those forces and that for the regular folk the playing field is not at all equal. It makes you question to what degree the elites are actually smarter and more disciplined that the rest of us and to what degree they are simply enjoying the fruits of having sold their souls in this life in return for dark powers to tip the scales in their favor.

I try to see it as a good reason not to be disheartened that dislodging their evil is such a daunting task. In a way if these people were just flesh and blood tyrants rather than the literal servants of satan then their total domination of all human power structures would be somehow even more demoralizing.

(04-18-2019 06:28 PM)911 Wrote:  This is a map with all the church attacks/destructions in the last 4 years:
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I don't really disagree here, we are just talking about different things.

Maybe I'll restate so that it's clearer :
my point was that this kind of church/cemetary desecrations have been done by 1 muslims 2 may sixty-eightards 3 drunk teens.

Regarding muslims I'm sad to say I believe you underestimate their representation all over the territory.
In 2000 the left (jospin) pushed a law called SRU which forced any village bigger than 3500 inhabitants to have 20% of social housing.
This number was pushed to 25% in 2013 by the way.

If you read the "official" numbers muslims are supposed to be 5% of the population.
If you ask me for an honest opinion I would say more between 20 and 25%, based on the numbers our politicians foresaw in 2000 and 2013, simple as that.

Regarding the may68 boomers they are also underestimated, even here in france most people have no idea how active they are.
Those two populations are a much bigger threat than "satanists", unless you consider the (more or less) hidden elite to be satanists too.

And yes the elite should be our number one priority, regardless of whether they are satanists or not.
When someone bored a hole in the hull it's pretty useless to grab a bucket and try to throw water back in the sea, if you see what I mean.

So anyway, when you consider how much of a problem this elite plus millions of hostile immigrants are, frankly I find it pretty useless to discuss people like varg.
They should be very low on your list of priorities.
They're not even on mine ..

911, I hear other christians talking about the masonic and satanist angle. It seems to be something going around in catholic circles. They make the same argument you do, don't focus on the muzzies, focus on those who have subverted the church within. I heard a catholic woman in mainstream radio talk about "communist infiltration" since the 1920s. This stuff is definitely registering. The preoccupation with feces is most certainly not islamic. I do know of other groups who have been known to sling feces.

(04-18-2019 06:28 PM)911 Wrote:  

(04-16-2019 02:26 PM)Oberrheiner Wrote:  

(04-15-2019 04:00 PM)911 Wrote:  Churches have been under attack for a several decades now, but the main culprits are atheist/satanist terrorists, who have had the deep state's backing in their centuries-old war on Christianity. Someone like Varg Vikernes, who has burned down nearly a dozen churches in Scandinavia back in the 1990s. The great majority of cemetery desecrations in France and other parts of Europe are by hateful atheists/satanists.

This is just not true.
There are no real satanists in france, trust me I've looked for them.

Sometimes you will find some who pretend they are, sure - it's usually over when they turn 18
Those might do some stupid things in cemeteries when drunk, yes, but nobody can take them as a serious threat, come on.

The old mai-68 generation on the other hand yes, many have an intense hatred for christianity but not only, for their country and civilization too.
They also comprise most of the troops in all those non-profits who support "migrants" and other no-borders bullshit.

Well ok one could argue that there are indeed satanists (depending on your definition I guess) but then you don't know about them and they don't desecrate tombs in the countryside, that's for sure.

This is a map with all the church attacks/destructions in the last 4 years:



The pattern of geographical distribution above simply doesn't match that of the muslim "racaille". You have "heartland" areas like the Morbihan and Finistère (south and west of Brittany for you yanks) that have very few muslims, and yet are just riddled with church attacks. The RER does not go to Laval, perhaps do you think the islamothugs hitchhiked there from the "93"?!?

As well, the kind of ritual desacration described in the reports like the spreading of feces on church walls, or the wonton defiling of religious artifacts without stealing any of the valuables in the church, those patterns of degeneracy are much more consistent with radical anticlerical hatred than with the muslim brand.

Here's an example of a church in Dordogne (which the Brits on here are familiar with), hardly a hotspot for muzzie thugs, where the vandals smeared feces in the shape of a cross on the walls...100% satanist/radical degenerates:

Quote:A spate of Catholic churched were vandalised in just seven days across France

...On February 5, an altar cloth was found burnt and crosses and statues torn down or disfigured at the recently refurbished Saint-Alain Cathedral in Lavaur, in south-central France.

The fire was found early by a parish secretary and did not spread - but the altar and adjacent walls were badly damaged by smoke.

Following the incident, local district deputy Jean Terlier said in a statement: “I strongly condemn the vandalism of Lavaur Cathedral and I share the outrage aroused by this intolerable act.”

And Lavaur city mayor Bernard Canyon said: “God will forgive. Not me.”

On February 6, just a day after the Saint-Alain Cathedral incident, vandals at Notre-Dame des Enfants (Our Lady of the Children) church in Nimes broke into the tabernacle and scattered altar hosts on the ground.

According to local news reports, the vandals also drew a cross on the wall with human excrement and damaged other religious items in the church


“The sign of the cross and the Blessed Sacrament have been the subject of serious injurious actions.”

Day later, on February 9, a similar attack occurred at the Church of Notre-Dame de Dijon, Côte-d'Or, about 175 miles south-east of Paris.

The tabernacle was opened and the Eucharist scattered, while the altar cloth was soiled and a sacred missal was torn.

According to Le Bien Public, Notre-Dame Father Emmanuel Pic believed the vandals wanted to show anger towards the “heart of the Catholic faith” as nothing of monetary value was stolen.

Guys like Zelcorpion/SS who are muzzie obsessed, weened on ZOG, and who know very little about W. Europe wouldn't get any of this, you won't hear any of it on Paul Joseph Watson (or on cucked alt-right French sites like Riposte Laïque for that matter).

Quote:This is just not true.
There are no real satanists in france, trust me I've looked for them.

France has been ruled by satanists for the last two centuries, with few interruptions. People like Bernard Henri Levi, Jacques Attali, Jack Lang (who has participated in satanic pedo orgies where children were raped to death in atrocious circumstances), frankist banker tribes like the Rothschilds, Pierre Bergé and Yves St-Laurent, Mitterrand, and now Macron.

Satanism is not just about goth kids larping, there is a hardcore masonic anti-Christian cabal that has been hard at work for three centuries now. Real satanists don't have inverted pentagrams branded on their foreheads, they are adepts of the kabbalah, the zohar, Cathare heresies, luciferian materialism and masonic dogmas. Nearly every minister of education has been a freemason pushing their dogma and subverting our ethics, here you have former education minister Vincent Peillon laying it out in the open, saying that Catholicism must be replaced by a masonic kabbalistic dogma.

Quote:I can only assume 911 was kidding when mentioning vikernes

And yes Rheiner, Varg did torch a dozen churches in Norway, that is a fact. Churches have been set on fire for decades in Europe, well before Abdul and Mohamed showed up in Oslo. Do you think there are fewer characters like Varg today running around than in the 1990s?

I am with 911 on this one.

Muslims in France (majority is north african) are an intersting bunch.
They commit a lot of crimes and thus make up the majority in prisons in France. Some really hate France. But still the vast majority don't dream about burning a Church or shooting up christians at mass.

They know that catholicism is almost dead in France so it's not a danger for them.
They are quit woke and red pill, they understand which group is pulling the strings in France (hint: it's the same group that invaded Palestine).

They have a deep rooted hatred for jews for having the power and in a way "ruling over them" and also because of Palestine and the destabilization of muslims countries like Irak, Lybia, Syria...
They also despise the atheist french, that they find weak and with no honor, two unforgivable things for them.

So actually catholics have more "respect" in their eyes. I've put that in quotation marks because ultimately the mentality of muslims is "us versus everybody" and when the time will come they will turn against everybody that is not muslim.

But seeing the situation in France right now, catholics are the least of their concerns.

I am not saying that muslims don't vandalize churches, it happened in march this year at the basilica of Saint-Denis by a Pakistani (fresh off the boat), but it is a minority. And like the Pakistani that arrived two months before the attack, I am quite certain that most of the muslims that did get caught vandalizing churches where newly arrived in France. They are still in the old country mindset that any display of christianity is to be destroyed. They don't understand the dynamic here, they don't understand that christianity in France is almost dead and is not a threat. North Africans that have been here for generations understand this and knows that it is useless to beat a dead horse.


For me the culprits are the free masons and the zionists. They are satanic in essence, anti-god and anti-christian. They run the show in France behind closed doors since the french revolution.
They have a legion of useful idiots, mostly self-loathing native french from the far-left who receive the orders and implement them on the ground.