Someone just asked me to provide evidence that refugees are more likely to commit rape. I don't normally argue with lefties but this one is an alright guy, above average intelligence and actually wants to read through it and see if there's anything that will make him believe it. He is unlikely to be swayed by just news reports on rapes, and needs official statistics before he can begin to see the truth.

Is there any succint arguments or crime stats etc that shows they are more likely to commit rape than the average population? I'm sure there are, but I don't have it all in my head, and even if I did, he would need to see the evidence himself, which is fair enough really. Maybe we could even have a thread about it like the pro-Trump arguments thread.

(06-13-2016 01:37 AM)Parzival Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 10:07 PM)lowhead360 Wrote:  Ironic that someone who (correctly) points out the mainstream media for its pro-Refugee agenda turns around and completely buys into the ridiculous idea that Serbs are the ones committing crimes, not Arabs or Africans. Of course that's what the media wants you to believe, that's how they distract you into galvanizing a Christian, European nation instead of identifying and dealing with the real culprits. Embarrassing.

I have written Serbs among the Refugees and I'm also aware that they are mostly gypsies. Still some Serbs are well known for their violent and criminal nature in Germany. Just a few days back there was a shooting and one man got killed. So for me they are not different then Arabs and Africans. And its a shame that the state don't react with force.

I don't deny that many Germans are wimpy and weak and our women are not longer our women instead they are foreigner loving. The nativity of many people here is insane. Well but whats is more embarrassing is that you Serbs jump on the track to blame every German male instead to see that this refugee invasion is an Euorpean Elite thing and almost all countries get betrayed by their leaders. That there is not a lot to do for the average citizen in Germany when the leaders don't care about the law and just open the borders for millions of savages. You said in your family they did experience war and conflicts, then you should be well aware how less people can do when the government machine runs. And the German machine runs still effective.

I said why you almost see almost no men interact when something like this happen. Furthermore the crimes are out there and some may think its all over Germany but thats not the case. When you read more you see stuff happens mostly in certain hotspots. Other areas are complete safe and you have no refugee impact at all. When I read the newspaper at mondey, turn away from the drunk brawls and fights that always exist then not a lot of refugee stuff stick out in my area.
In other areas the refugees just slip into the already criminal environment and I don't know why nothing happens there. There the state lacks complete the willpower.

Like I said, I hope the criminals of Serbian origin are shown no mercy.

But to say that we are no different that Africans or Arabs is an utterly absurd and downright ignorant statement.

No one is jumping on here and attacking every German male. I stated, throughout my post, that I'm rooting for Germany and for Christian Europe to win. Stop getting defensive, no one here is attacking the German people or "blaming" anyone but the elites. Get it together and stop generating fake outrage at accusations that were never levelled. We are on the same side.

(06-13-2016 04:29 AM)Parzival Wrote:  This times are times where Europeans should stand united.

Now you’re being disingenuous.

A post ago, you said that there’s no difference between Serbs, a Christian European nation with a 500-year track record of resisting Islam, and Africans and Arabs. I want European unity and I want Germany to win.

Do you want European unity or not? Your comments suggest that you do not.

Quote:Yes, this is all true, I fully agree the attack on Serbia was a war crime and betrayal of epic proportions by the zionist NATO. It would certainly never have happened today with Putin in charge. It was an awful betrayal and I understand the bad feelings, but even so, there was no love left between Croats and Serbs either.

As for the West, you have to understand most people are ignorant sheep who can't tell a Serb from an Shqiptar and have no idea about the history of the Serbs.

What is important is that the new right and its parties in Europe understand this, and it seems that way to me, Le Pen in France for example, Iben Tranholm who was posted in a video here before is a catholic convert who spent time in Russia and is frequently 'preaching' about Russia and the Orthodox church in radio.

I understand these feelings of betrayal from the Russian/Serbs, but I think the new generation has a better understanding because we have the internet and we travel more.

With regards to Croats and Serbs, there were definitely problems, that’s true. My hope is that we can set aside our differences and separate from Bosnia, a failed state that doesn’t serve Croatian or Serbian interests in the slightest.

Most nationalist parties in Europe recognize the folly of supporting Islam in the Balkans and I don’t doubt that rapprochement between Serbia and the West will happen. The Austrian Freedom Party has spoken out openly against Kosovo independence and so has Marine Le Pen and the FN. The tides will turn eventually and sooner or later, European Christians will unite.

There are of course no statistics that would compare such things direct. At least not in Germany where they hide numbers. That they do so there is proof.
The next point is, you have to read between the lines. When they say refugees are not more criminal then similar German groups, you have to ask the question, what similar German groups? They did not say, refugees are not more criminal then Germans. Look at the age group, 80 % are males below 30. And when you look at the crime rates of people below 25 they are a way higher then the average population. So the refugee crimes are higher then the average German population because the average age in Germany is 43 or so. The are maybe as criminal as Germans below 25, but when you get a million of them, they bring crime with them. Crimes that we don't need nor want. 80 % arrive with no legal documents, thats also a crime itself. But the German government make it sound like this is not a crime, why is it in every country in the world, even Germany illegal to cross the border illegal with no documents? But then you look away?

(06-13-2016 11:38 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  Someone just asked me to provide evidence that refugees are more likely to commit rape. I don't normally argue with lefties but this one is an alright guy, above average intelligence and actually wants to read through it and see if there's anything that will make him believe it. He is unlikely to be swayed by just news reports on rapes, and needs official statistics before he can begin to see the truth.
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1. You should already know all of the studies for this, otherwise why do you hold the opinion? News alone is not good enough because news can be very biased.

2. It is not enough to state the facts here, unless the guy is completely unbiased.

Changing opinions which are this deep is hard. You should lead him into it by:
a. Being in a position of authority or esteem (for example, you beat him at ping pong three times in a row, you took him with you to a bjj match and kicked ass, he helped you man your table at a convention, you were talking about history/philosophy/science and you cleared up a big point, etc...)

b. Establish yourself as independent and nonpartisan. Best done by laughing at all parties involved. In general this whole time you should channel Oscar Wilde:



c. Discredit the crooked sources he has been getting his info from (this is so easy today, look at what fb and Reddit news did).

This is important because of he was MISINFORMED he was not actually wrong, just had been tricked. That allows him to change his opinion.

d. Point out the stats. Crime rates of their home countries, compare with those of the same per capita. Crime rates in Germany, recently released, per capita.

It is a long process but can yield a beautiful awakening, I've seen people stand taller, get better jobs, have better success with girls just after this. Maybe I will drop a data sheet on this. The most important things are

i. Frame control... The guy WANTS to learn, but has heard these things frames in only one way all the time... Keeping frame here will be easier depending on how well you did in (a).

ii. Knowing the facts, having the right historical context. Just go ahead and become an expert on this. Zel touches on this in a few posts, the rest can be found with a Google search or a trip to the library.

iii. Saying only as much as he can take...remember, he WANTS to believe the authorities because he has been framed all his life to think they are looking out for him. So don't say so much that the cognitive dissonance blows his brains or you'll be responsible for making him feel bad. Instead make him feel smart. If you can pull off a Socratic method approach go for it.

iv. Keeping it happy and fun. Drinks, exercise, girls, dancing, parties, it is a bit like a whirlwind adventure... you need positive connotation to change these irrational beliefs... Beliefs rooted through the sophisticated persuasion techniques employed by the media.

This is the step by step process through which each sheep goes when online:

(06-13-2016 10:52 AM)Samseau Wrote:  German courts are fucked:

http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/06/german-...-marriage/

Quote:Scandalous judgment: Islamic pedophile-marriages are valid in Germany

“A marriage that has been performed according to Syrian law in Syria with a 14 year old bride and a man of legal age, has to be recognized as valid if the husband belongs to the Sunni religion and the marriage has already been executed.”

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Here’s the case of a 22-year-old Syrian man and his 14-year-old wife — probably a more benign example — a couple who came to Bavaria at the end of 2015. They are also cousins — since marriages among relatives, too, is a custom that is accepted in Islam, which has for centuries harmed the gene pool of the Islamic peoples. According to one BBC study 55 % of the Pakistanis living in Great Britain are married to relatives. And worldwide, half of all Muslims are living in incestuous marriages. The consequences are an average IQ that is 10 points lower, and a significantly higher risk for psychological and physical illnesses.

...
After all this, the court came out with the real tear-jerker: The “husband and wife” had endured so much together already during their “flight”! Additionally, a recognition of their marriage for the purpose of integration is vital. The two had already rejected participation in integration courses long before their marriage was validated, the German judges seriously lamented.
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All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

Let's take this apart:

Quote:
22-year-old Syrian man and his 14-year-old wife...cousins...The two had already rejected participation in integration courses long before their marriage was validated the German judges seriously lamented.

Quote:22-year-old Syrian man and his 14-year-old wife...cousins...The two had already rejected participation in integration courses

They knowingly broke the law and they refused to rehabilitate willingly.

According to German law, sex with a minor is "child sexual abuse" and is to be punished according to the following guidelines:

Quote:The sections on child abuse (child means a person under the age of fourteen years) provide the following statutory sentencing ranges (simplified presentation):
Minor cases of “ordinary” child abuse (e.g. the offender engages in sexual activity in the presence of a child): imprisonment from three months to five years.
“Ordinary” child abuse (e.g. the offender engages in sexual activity with a child without any kind of penetration): imprisonment from six month to ten years.
Repeated “ordinary” child abuse within five years or other serious cases of “ordinary” child abuse: imprisonment from one year to fifteen years.
Aggravated child abuse (e.g. penetration of the body or the offence is committed jointly by more than one person or the child is placed in danger of serious injury or substantial impairment of his physical or emotional development): imprisonment from two to fifteen years.
5. Aggravated child abuse, by which the child is seriously physically abused or placed in danger of death: imprisonment from five to fifteen years...
Child abuse by which the offender causes the death of the child by reckless disregard: imprisonment from ten to fifteen years or imprisonment for life.

Quote:German judges seriously lamented...the two had already rejected participation in integration courses

So a foreign national commits a crime with mandatory jail time on German soil, after having been warned repeatedly by German authorities, and the German judges "lament" his criminal tendencies and decide that instead the law should be changed?

Justice is dead.

(06-13-2016 12:35 PM)storm Wrote:  

(06-13-2016 11:38 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  Someone just asked me to provide evidence that refugees are more likely to commit rape. I don't normally argue with lefties but this one is an alright guy, above average intelligence and actually wants to read through it and see if there's anything that will make him believe it. He is unlikely to be swayed by just news reports on rapes, and needs official statistics before he can begin to see the truth.
...

1. You should already know all of the studies for this, otherwise why do you hold the opinion? News alone is not good enough because news can be very biased.

2. It is not enough to state the facts here, unless the guy is completely unbiased.

Changing opinions which are this deep is hard. You should lead him into it by:
a. Being in a position of authority or esteem (for example, you beat him at ping pong three times in a row, you took him with you to a bjj match and kicked ass, he helped you man your table at a convention, you were talking about history/philosophy/science and you cleared up a big point, etc...)

b. Establish yourself as independent and nonpartisan. Best done by laughing at all parties involved. In general this whole time you should channel Oscar Wilde:



c. Discredit the crooked sources he has been getting his info from (this is so easy today, look at what fb and Reddit news did).

This is important because of he was MISINFORMED he was not actually wrong, just had been tricked. That allows him to change his opinion.

d. Point out the stats. Crime rates of their home countries, compare with those of the same per capita. Crime rates in Germany, recently released, per capita.

It is a long process but can yield a beautiful awakening, I've seen people stand taller, get better jobs, have better success with girls just after this. Maybe I will drop a data sheet on this. The most important things are

i. Frame control... The guy WANTS to learn, but has heard these things frames in only one way all the time... Keeping frame here will be easier depending on how well you did in (a).

ii. Knowing the facts, having the right historical context. Just go ahead and become an expert on this. Zel touches on this in a few posts, the rest can be found with a Google search or a trip to the library.

iii. Saying only as much as he can take...remember, he WANTS to believe the authorities because he has been framed all his life to think they are looking out for him. So don't say so much that the cognitive dissonance blows his brains or you'll be responsible for making him feel bad. Instead make him feel smart. If you can pull off a Socratic method approach go for it.

iv. Keeping it happy and fun. Drinks, exercise, girls, dancing, parties, it is a bit like a whirlwind adventure... you need positive connotation to change these irrational beliefs... Beliefs rooted through the sophisticated persuasion techniques employed by the media.

You're right I underestimated this task, I was just looking for something simple and to the point, but you're right facts will probably not be enough.

I am a source of esteem and do keep things friendly, one of the few people I've argued with and we've both ended up with more respect for each other.

As for the studies, I don't need to know them, I rely on my own judgement rather than lame and boring studies. If I do read stats, I'll forget them anyway. There are plenty of reports of rape on native girls by refugees. They are mostly men who look down on our women and come from a rape culture. I don't need any more evidence than that to say that they are more likely to rape.

I'll probably give up and find a more productive use of my time.

(06-13-2016 01:51 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  As for the studies, I don't need to know them, I rely on my own judgement rather than lame and boring studies. If I do read stats, I'll forget them anyway. There are plenty of reports of rape on native girls by refugees. They are mostly men who look down on our women and come from a rape culture. I don't need any more evidence than that to say that they are more likely to rape.

Appeal to authority and name-dropping are incredibly powerful in today world: especially since most people know that they themselves would forget these studies...it immediately pegs you as an expert.

Name dropping and quoting has been used by traveling christian missionaries to 'convert' local babes for hundreds of years.

Quote:I'll probably give up and find a more productive use of my time.

It's a useful skill to have, but probably not more useful than knowing how to sell a refrigerator.

It is only a matter of time before the European actually rise up against all of this mess and kick out a lot of Muslims.

Islam is a religion of peace. My ass. The media says the following:

Early 90s twin tower bombing, nothing to do with Islam.
9/11, nothing to do with Islam.
Madrid bombings, nothing to do with Islam.
7/7 bombings, nothing to do with Islam.
Lee Rigby murder, nothing to do with Islam.
Charlie Hebdo, nothing to do with Islam.
Angels of Death concert, nothing to do with Islam.
France-Germany friendly, nothing to do with Islam.
Brussels, nothing to do with Islam.
Rotherham, nothing to do with Islam.
New years sex assault, nothing to do with Islam.
Increase of rape and crime by migrants, nothing to do with Islam.

It has EVERYTHING to do with Islam. Every single one of these acts were committed by Muslims. They are a huge part of the problem as they genuinely hate non Muslims to the point of apathy. I have never encounter a single Muslim condemning the actions of other Muslims but when it comes to resistance they are quick to place the race card.

The stupid policies make me sick and I can see Europe getting unsafer each and every passing month. The vast majority of people I speak to do can see enough is enough but the politicians will not do anything. I sincerely hope that by June 24th the results will come in for Britain's EU exit and they chose to leave. The EU project house of cards will come tumbling down. Then in November Trump wins the presidential nomination.

I have many friends who have expressed deep concern about the future of Europe to me in private. People are waking up, people are getting fed up and slowly people are starting to take action.

If none of these things happen than in 10 to 15 years or so we will start to see the break out of WW3 or various civil wars as and when the indigenous European folk wake up and take back control of their land.

Europe needs to be more hard right, nationalism needs to take rise and Islam needs to be outright banned.

The most feasible solution I can think of right now would be to ban travel to and from non European countries that are currently under civil unrest and citizens from those countries travelling from more stabilised countries.

ISIS claims responsibly for fatal stabbing of a police officer and his wife in suburbs of Paris. The couple and attacker are dead, their child rescued.

Looks like we've entered the era of lone wolf attacks. Expecting more I'm the coming weeks.

(06-13-2016 12:46 PM)Zep Wrote:  

So the SJW "artist" thinks it's more important for Britain to be "interesting" than it is for low-skill workers to have some semblance of dignity. He'd rather be poor and entertained. He even said as much "all this focus on money..."

That is such a twisted way of thinking. No wonder you can't use arguments based on logic with the SJW. When someone places his/her need to be entertained ahead of more basic needs, they've gone off the rails and can't be reasoned with.

French cop and wife killed by man pledging allegiance to ISIS this morning. Kid survived.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36524094

Quote:French police chief's killing a 'terrorist act'

The attack on a policeman and his partner by a man claiming allegiance to so-called Islamic State is a "terrorist act", France's interior minister says.

The man stabbed the officer to death and took a woman and child hostage in their home in Magnanville, near Paris, before being killed by police.

The partner was found dead but the child was rescued.

French media say the attacker had been sentenced in 2013 for involvement with jihadist groups with links to Pakistan.

Unnamed sources identified him as 25-year-old Larossi Abballa, who lived in nearby Mantes-La-Jolie and was convicted for "criminal association with the aim of preparing terrorist acts".

He was sentenced to a three-year term, with six months suspended, they said.

Islamic State's Amaq news agency said an IS "fighter" carried out the attack.

If that is confirmed, it would be the first militant attack in France since a state of emergency was imposed following last November's attacks which left 130 dead in Paris.

And it happens as the country is in high alert as it hosts the Euro football championship, which started on Friday.

"An appalling terrorist act was committed yesterday in Magnanville by an individual who attacked a police officer and his wife, who was herself an official in a police station," Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said.

Speaking after a cabinet meeting held by President Francois Hollande, Mr Cazeneuve said more than 100 people seen as potential threats have been arrested in France this year, including in recent weeks.

French prosecutors have launched an anti-terror investigation into the incident.

Witnesses quoted by AFP said that the knife-wielding man may have shouted "Allahu akbar" (God is greater) when he attacked the 42-year-old policeman, who was not in uniform, outside his home.

The attacker then went inside the house and took the woman, who was also a police officer, and a child hostage.

He is reported to have claimed allegiance to IS while talking to police negotiators.

Interior ministry spokesman Pierre-Henry Brandet said France's elite police Raid unit was brought in after the officer's killer took hostages at around 21:00 (19:00 GMT).

He said negotiations had been unsuccessful and a decision had been made to "launch an assault" at about midnight.

Witnesses reported hearing loud explosions as the officers from the Raid unit moved in.

"This commander, this police officer was killed by the individual... (and) we discovered the body of a woman. The assailant, the criminal was killed. Thankfully, a little boy was saved. He is safe and sound," Mr Brandet told reporters.

The victims have not yet been named. Magnanville is about 55 km (35 miles) north-west of the French capital.

^^ So now should I put American, French, or Gay pride flag on my Facebook?

(06-14-2016 03:07 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  ^^ So now should I put American, French, or Gay pride flag on my Facebook?

Better use this one!

   

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/a...ellen.html

Quote:Exemptions for religious reasons, it should be gone away by the Minister of Justice considers. That's why Heiko Maas wants Muslim multiple marriages future deny recognition.

"Everyone must abide by the law, whether he grew up here or new to us," Maas said. In practice polygamous family relationships among migrants from Arab states from German authorities would tolerate often implied, the newspaper said. "The law is equal for all."

Polygamy is indeed already banned in Germany currently, however, discussed in German politics about how to proceed against forced marriages of underage migrants. "We need to consider this very carefully," said Maas. "Forced marriages, we can not tolerate, and certainly not when underage girls are affected."

Good interview with Mike Cernovich.

He addresses all the relevant issues and ultimately the war on the WEst and their euphemisms like diversity, multi-culturalism etc.

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/a...mlich.html

Quote:Officially decrease the number of refugees. Relieved dedicated to the policy new topics. However, illegal immigration across the open borders continues - and the frustration of the Federal Police rises.

Ten years ago, cars were still here stopped, the trunks searches, personal checks, lowered barriers. Today, on the border theres is not much to see neither the German nor the Polish state power. Strokes take a couple of policemen to a traffic accident, over look a few police officers from a safe distance to. Checks? No longer provided in the roster. Within the European Union will apply from Warsaw to Lisbon Currency: Free travel for free citizens.But the free ride on the 460-kilometer-long German-Polish border do not only tourists, businessmen or commuters advantage. International traffickers have long since discovered the uncontrolled border for their own purposes. Especially in Slubice, the Polish or city on the right bank, refugees are hard to miss. They are driven by their drivers to the current, they go to walk across the bridge to a new life in Germany.

In a confidential management report of Federal Police Frankfurt (Oder), the present of the "Welt am Sonntag", "clear signal for further increasing migration pressure on the German-Polish border" is one of the speech. The text reads like a complaint catalog of German border guards, addressed to the German policy.

The motorway crossing A12 from Germany to Poland: Earlier here more cars were stopped. Despite "significantly reduced" contingent workforce were in May 2016 "after all, still 114 illegal entries detected" been. The police report further notes that the arrested, illegal immigrants often contacts were detected to smugglers upon further review - but the ability to determine in these cases is wider in scope, given the "existing resources already be described as borderline". Especially "the influx of Russian nationals of Chechen ethnicity" hold "on to".

Then dedicated to the management report of precarious staff situation of border guards: "The decline of the findings (Of illegal immigrants) of BPOLI Frankfurt (O) is due to the significantly reduced personnel in regular service." In eight layers so lamented, was "below the minimum strength" in May. In conversation, it brings a federal police to the point: The guards were occupied sparse, there is hardly any patrolling. "The border to the east is completely open!"

The mood of the border guards is miserable. "For that we are not take on", laments a German policeman. "The smugglers are laughing at us!" How many refugees undetected enter daily on Germany's eastern border, no one knows of them exactly. Some officials go of 1000 illegal crossings on the day of

"If not controlled, you will be able to also find on the border no irregular migration," said Bosbach and an ironic comparison can not resist: "When we abolish the ticket checks in the S-Bahn, then we will get no more Dodger - then go to the official statistics, the numbers back, but the actual number of fare dodgers should rise. "

In some Swiss cities new procedures for dealing with asylum seekers are tested precisely. In Zurich specifically a center has been established, the applicants jointly supervise where interpreters, doctors and the authorities. The experience there: 32.4 percent of the asylum seekers have disappeared without trace, before they could be deported, in control mode, there are only about ten percent. "I suspect that many of these people travel to Germany," says Bea Schwager, director of the Swiss State Secretariat for Migration.

The invaders come not over the Polish or Swiss border to Germany. Politicians reduce police force, so police don't catch illegal border crossing - and magical the crime number goes down. Same like they do now in Bremen and Berlin, where they just don't control criminal hotspots any longer. Its a nice tactic to make your numbers look nice. Whey not ban the police complete? When you have no police, you have no one that can report crimes - this mean no crime at all. Right?
All in this report is quite frustrating. State Police and Federal Police feel like stabbed into the back from higher politics because of cost reduction, lack of willpower to fight crime of non Germans and the bend over for multiculturalism.

Sexual assaults get to a scale where they say, they have to make it public to warn the public. At first they write about the already postet case of the three girls that got assaulted but did not say it because of political correctness.

http://www.huffingtonpost.de/2016/06/14/...55266.html

Quote:For the three Hessian girls school was last evidently only a burden. By bus and tram they drive every morning from the surrounding area in their school to Kassel.
But on the way to school they were last pressed regularly, men would have taken them to the butt, on the chest and in the step. The alleged perpetrators had made obscene gestures or them "whore" shouted, reported in the 16 to 18-year-old alleged victim a few days ago in an interview with the Hessian Niedersächsische Allgemeine (HNA) and a local victim initiative.

Long the young women have been silent, the paper said. For the men, they would regularly harassed and groped so massive, were "likely to refugees". therefore one of the students said the "HNA": "We do not want refugees are discriminated against."

Quote:According to the "HNA" are the assaults are "not isolated incidents". In early June a 26-year-old student was harassed by several men in Kassel.The student was asked in English and broken German, surrounded and touched, she said the "HNA". Afterwards she asked had herself whether they had been wrong dressed and the men have about provoking.

Quote:In Kassel and the surrounding area will be considerable debate about allegedly committed by refugee and migrant groups sex attacks. "Cologne is not over -. also in Kassel women being harassed here by men" says the "HNA".

According to the descriptions of the victims of the type of attack is always the same. "Young and of foreign-looking, not German speaking" It should be assumed that among the perpetrators were also refugees, the newspaper said.

A representative of the Working Group "Together against sexual violence active" (Gesa) told "HNA": "We did not get to the refugees, a huge package of sexual violence of men do so." The perpetrator would "often from cultures with a different image of women ".

Quote:"Sex attacks as recently in Darmstadt accumulate", is at least Rainer Wendt, chairman of the German Police Union (DPolG), confident. He refers to the mass sexual assaults of Cologne, the attacks at the Duesseldorf Japan Day and the events on the Berlin Carnival of cultures. also in the Bergkirchweih in Franconia Erlangen came last to 14 sexual assaults.

In Cologne hundreds of sex attacks were counted on New Year's Eve, other cities were severely affected. Such dimension did not reach the in the following months by groups of men committed sexual assaults. In Darmstadt, however, the end of May went to a music festival, a minimum of 26 ads from women who are victims of Antanzbanden were by its own account.
And at a town festival in Schleswig-Holstein Ahrensburg should have been even old only between 15 to 17 years the five victims of sexual assaults.

Often the perpetrators of the victims and the police as a "North African", but sometimes also as were, like "described african" "Arab" "southern" or in Ahrensburg as.

There is no real summer now, often rainy and this plays down possible attacks because girls go out less. So it even seems like the weather plays in the hand of the cultural marxist.

Belgian and French security services have released another statement in Captain Obvious-style:

https://www.rt.com/news/346745-isis-belg...ice-alert/

Quote:Belgian and French security forces have received an anti-terror alert about a group of Islamic State fighters who recently left Syria and are heading to Europe. They are allegedly planning attacks in Belgium and France, according to security sources cited by Reuters and AP.

No shit, Sherlock! ISIS fighters have been allowed to enter Europe undetected during the last year or two, and now they release this. Given that their societies are already crawling with Muslim immigrants, legal and illegal, who represent a dangerous pool of potential terrorists, this is like saying the sky is blue. They would be better off actually combating terrorist threats and doing so in secret, instead of spreading panic with useless statements like this.

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/a...erzte.html

Quote:Interior Minister Thomas de Maizière (CDU) has called for the removal of obstacles to deportation no recognized asylum seekers. "There are still too many issued certificates of doctors, where there are no real health problems for no deportation," de Maiziere told the "Rheinische Post"."It can not be that 70 percent of men below 40 years are explained of deportation for ill and not fit for transport. Speaking against every experience."Next demanded de Maizière: "There must also benefit cuts if applicant does not help in forging identity or not to leave in the event of rejection." The legal instruments for this have been created in the past year, and now they need to be applied consistently.

Very hypocritical. So far he is right, the numbers of deportation are very low. Even when you are not accepted you can mostly just stay in Germany. Still the real problem of all the problems is not the lack of deportation. Its the open borders where 80 % of people can come to Germany with no legal documents. Its the lack of willpower of the EU to protect the outside borders.

I have read a Frontex report - Frontex is the EU border unit - not only about the mistakes from last year that the countries let the invaders pass or that Merkel said the borders for Germany are open. What did increase the numbers of invaders, also the lack of willpower to control and stop them. Many politicians in Germany have still the illusion that it is a human right to just move from a poor and messed up country to Germany and Germans have to pay for everything.

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/a...elfte.html

Quote:Islamic fundamentalist settings are prevalent among immigrants from Turkey. The statement "Muslims should return to a social order as in the times of the Prophet Muhammad seeks," vote according to the Emnid poll for the University of Muenster 32 percent of respondents "strongly" or "somewhat" to.

The statement "The observance of the commandments of my religion is more important to me than the laws of the state in which I live" agree to 47 percent of respondents. Every second person in the affirmative "strongly" or "somewhat" to "There is only one true religion". 36 percent are convinced that only Islam is able to solve the problems of our time. In the term of use, researchers have those respondents who agree with all of these four statements, a "comprehensive and strengthened Islamic fundamentalist worldview". They account for 13 percent.

83 percent of immigrants and their descendants explain it make them angry if after a terrorist attack as First Muslims suspected. Three quarters calling for a ban on books and movies that hurt the feelings of deeply religious people. Two thirds of respondents think Islam passe quite in the Western world, while 73 percent of the total population in Germany think the opposite. For Pollack is the Islam "from the perspective of the Muslim minority to an attacked religion, which is to protect against injury, prejudices and suspicions".

A significant proportion of respondents holding for the use of force is appropriate. The statement "The threat of Islam by the Western world justifies that Muslims forcefully defend" every fifth participant agrees to strongly or somewhat. The forcible dissemination and enforcement of Islam hold about seven percent of respondents justified.

When asked about the cultural adaptation to the German society is certainly a different picture: 72 percent of the older generation consider this to be necessary, but only 52 percent of the younger. 86 percent of second and third generation think we should confidently stand for their own origin, but only 67 percent of the first generation.

Just another proof of the radical and fanatic views of Muslims that in general don't fit into western societies. But well, we need to be more tolerant.

Not to be edgy or anything, but there are over 400 pages on this subject: has anyone here taken some action to prevent if but 1 immigrant from entering Europe?

From the United States Declaration of Independence:

Quote:That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Governments can become tyrannical and then the tree of liberty is to be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

To protect against the possibility of despotism, the same despotism they had been fighting during the revolution, they gave the citizens certain rights. Obviously a tyrannical government first attempts to take away these rights one by one. And just as obviously such a government would do so under the guise of noble reasons instead of outright proclaiming their intentions.

It is our right and most definitely our duty to fight such a government and the institutions that enable them, cover for them, provide the muscle or the intellectual justification.

One problem is how to spot such a government and how to convince other people of that unfathomable reality while staying under the radar. It stand to reason that such a government-gone-rogue takes steps to prevent a popular revolt. Media control, speech criminalization, gun confiscation. You're only a hero when the people think you were doing the right thing. And oppressive regimes have a habit of not seeming like oppressive regimes until it is too late.

But our laws are very clear: It is justified to violently overthrow a corrupted government that actively works against the interests of the people.

How many people in the gulags or gas chambers you think wished someone had resisted? We all think it can't happen here. But it has never not happened in human history.

(This is all a theoretical discussion. But you have to admit it is pretty funny that talking about this subject can very much be illegal in our societies, which is exactly the legal framework you'd erect if you had bad intentions. Gun confiscation, hate speech laws, ending internet anonymity.)

But what about #NotAllMuslims and #YouAintNoMuslimBruv? Surely hashtag activists wouldn't be wrong?

One of the most alarming pieces from that article is "The observance of the commandments of my religion is more important to me than the laws of the state in which I live." Assuming the polling population was statistically significant, that is insane! And the Western world is trying to integrate these people? You can't integrate people who deem your laws and customs second to their religious beliefs.