(02-05-2016 07:52 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote:Quote:Dude you're stuck in denial.
Had anyone said in 2014 that 1 million Muzzies would come to Germany and get free food and housing, plus rape thousands of women, no one would have believed them then. They would have called him paranoid, and they would say it could never happen because of Civil War.
Actually, no. I could have believed them.
You can spill all your doomsday bullshit all day, the reality is you are not smarter than the elites and they have nothing to gain by doing what you say will happen.
They have everything to gain by the slow process of balkanization of Europe via slower and more controlled immigration - and that is what will happen.
Quote:take it up the ass until that even doesn't work, at which point they will fight back futilely until they are put down forever.Yep, that's exactly what history teaches us will happen
It's nice to think you are the masculine big boy in the class but the reality is, Europe was built on the backs of very violent men. These men's genes are still in the gene pool.
The only thing that's changed is culture. And it can change back. Actually, in the circumstances you envision, it will change back.
You remind me of Tyler Durden from Zero Hedge. Screaming since 2008 how the entire financial system will collapse tomorrow. Well, it somehow never happens.
Irrational paranoia is irrational paranoia. It's exactly this maniac posturing that hurts our cause. There are enough things to be concerned about without sounding like a mad doomsday protestant preacher whose irrationality is clouding his senses.
(02-05-2016 07:52 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote:Quote:Dude you're stuck in denial.
Had anyone said in 2014 that 1 million Muzzies would come to Germany and get free food and housing, plus rape thousands of women, no one would have believed them then. They would have called him paranoid, and they would say it could never happen because of Civil War.
Actually, no. I could have believed them.
Quote:You can spill all your doomsday bullshit all day, the reality is you are not smarter than the elites and they have nothing to gain by doing what you say will happen.
Quote:Quote:They have everything to gain by the slow process of balkanization of Europe via slower and more controlled immigration - and that is what will happen.Yep, that's exactly what history teaches us will happen
Quote:take it up the ass until that even doesn't work, at which point they will fight back futilely until they are put down forever.
It's nice to think you are the masculine big boy in the class but the reality is, Europe was built on the backs of very violent men. These men's genes are still in the gene pool.
The only thing that's changed is culture. And it can change back. Actually, in the circumstances you envision, it will change back.
Quote:You remind me of Tyler Durden from Zero Hedge. Screaming since 2008 how the entire financial system will collapse tomorrow. Well, it somehow never happens.
Irrational paranoia is irrational paranoia. It's exactly this maniac posturing that hurts our cause. There are enough things to be concerned about without sounding like a mad doomsday protestant preacher whose irrationality is clouding his senses.
(02-05-2016 11:50 AM)Parzival Wrote:(02-05-2016 10:04 AM)Libertas Wrote: Surprise surprise, I'm already hearing of sexual assaults at the Cologne carnival.
I did quote the news already.
But so far not as massive as the new years eve attacks.
(02-05-2016 11:59 AM)Samseau Wrote:(02-05-2016 11:50 AM)Parzival Wrote:(02-05-2016 10:04 AM)Libertas Wrote: Surprise surprise, I'm already hearing of sexual assaults at the Cologne carnival.
I did quote the news already.
But so far not as massive as the new years eve attacks.
Because women are probably traveling with men or in huge packs now.
(02-04-2016 10:17 PM)Dusty Wrote: The Rapefugees tried some Cologne shit in Russia. Let's just say the raping didn't go in the direction the rapefugees hoped for.
Refugees Go Clubbing In Russia, Harass Girls, Wake Up In Hospital The Next Morning
(02-05-2016 04:48 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote:(02-05-2016 01:05 AM)Samseau Wrote: Upping my predictions here. 3 more million Muzzies in Germany before the end of 2016, for grand total of 4.5 million in two years. And it's just going to get exponentially worse.
Again, it's why I cannot take you seriously. You are assuming stasis and no reaction of natives to changing circumstances. This is a stupid and fallacious assumption.
If 3 million enter Germany this year, we will have actual civil war before New Year's Eve.
That's why 3 million won't enter. Elites are not that dumb.
(02-05-2016 07:52 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote:Quote:Dude you're stuck in denial.
Had anyone said in 2014 that 1 million Muzzies would come to Germany and get free food and housing, plus rape thousands of women, no one would have believed them then. They would have called him paranoid, and they would say it could never happen because of Civil War.
Actually, no. I could have believed them.
You can spill all your doomsday bullshit all day, the reality is you are not smarter than the elites and they have nothing to gain by doing what you say will happen.
They have everything to gain by the slow process of balkanization of Europe via slower and more controlled immigration - and that is what will happen.
Quote:take it up the ass until that even doesn't work, at which point they will fight back futilely until they are put down forever.Yep, that's exactly what history teaches us will happen
It's nice to think you are the masculine big boy in the class but the reality is, Europe was built on the backs of very violent men. These men's genes are still in the gene pool.
The only thing that's changed is culture. And it can change back. Actually, in the circumstances you envision, it will change back.
You remind me of Tyler Durden from Zero Hedge. Screaming since 2008 how the entire financial system will collapse tomorrow. Well, it somehow never happens.
Irrational paranoia is irrational paranoia. It's exactly this maniac posturing that hurts our cause. There are enough things to be concerned about without sounding like a mad doomsday protestant preacher whose irrationality is clouding his senses.
(02-05-2016 12:35 PM)Parzival Wrote: Police in Germany is not stupid, they still out there to do their duty for the German people. I have friends among the police but well I live in Bavaria, its less worse here. Its like the military, over the last 2 decades politicians have seen the police and the military as something they don't like but is necessary. Same for the BND, kind of the German NSA / CIA. Police and military get reduced a lot because of saving money, the whole court system lacks people too.
The whole police tactics are build up on de-escalation. Not on hit hard with force and arrest or push down protest. They are able to do it so some limit but are bound by the politicians. The speakers of the police union talk very clear about the problems in the media, same for the leaders of the military. Still they depend on the parliaments (state / federal). Its not that Germany could not deal with the whole situation, its just that our politicians don't want them to deal with it. Take a look at the tried terror attack in Berlin now, or all the other tried ones. Police is mostly aware, they also had be aware of those people that commit the crimes at new years eve. German police is not stupid.
The question is, who will stand on which side when the things will go down.
(02-05-2016 05:53 AM)Going strong Wrote: If someone liberates Europe from illegals and islamists, it'll be the Russian army in five years or, who knows, a Polish-Lithuanian army in ten years, or maybe even some Texan army 20 years from now... but certainly not the "diverse" French army.
Quote:War games show NATO’s eastern flank is vulnerable. To deter Moscow, the United States will need to deploy heavy armor on a large scale, a new study says.
If Russian tanks and troops rolled into the Baltics tomorrow, outgunned and outnumbered NATO forces would be overrun in under three days. That’s the sobering conclusion of war games carried out by a think tank with American military officers and civilian officials.
“The games’ findings are unambiguous: As currently postured, NATO cannot successfully defend the territory of its most exposed members,” said a report by the Rand Corp., which led the war gaming research.
In numerous tabletop war games played over several months between 2014-2015, Russian forces were knocking on the doors of the Estonian capital of Tallinn or the Latvian capital of Riga within 36 to 60 hours. U.S. and Baltic troops — and American airpower — proved unable to halt the advance of mechanized Russian units and suffered heavy casualties, the report said.
The study argues that NATO has been caught napping by a resurgent and unpredictable Russia, which has begun to boost defense spending after having seized the Crimean peninsula in Ukraine and intervened in support of pro-Moscow separatists in eastern Ukraine. In the event of a potential Russian incursion in the Baltics, the United States and its allies lack sufficient troop numbers, or tanks and armored vehicles, to slow the advance of Russian armor, said the report by Rand’s David Shlapak and Michael Johnson.
“Such a rapid defeat would leave NATO with a limited number of options, all bad,” it said.
The report was released Tuesday, the same day Defense Secretary Ash Carter unveiled plans to add more heavy weapons and armored vehicles to prepositioned stocks in Eastern Europe to give the Pentagon two brigade sets worth of heavy equipment on NATO’s eastern frontier. As it stands now, there are two U.S. Army infantry brigades stationed in Europe — one in Italy and the other in Germany — but they have been stretched thin by the constant demands of training rotations with allies across the continent. The new $3.4 billion plan outlined by Carter and the White House would add another brigade to the mix, but it would be made up of soldiers from the United States, rotating in for months at a time.
Late last month, Gen. Philip Breedlove, commander of U.S. European Command, released a new strategy anticipating — and pushing back against — the call for more rotational forces. Flying troops in and out of the region “complements” the units who call Europe home, he wrote, but they’re no “substitute for an enduring forward deployed presence that is tangible and real. Virtual presence means actual absence.”
David Ochmanek from the Rand Corp., a former senior Pentagon official who has studied the challenge posed by Russia’s military, called the administration’s budget proposal for European forces an important step and an “encouraging sign.”
“Heavy armored equipment, pre-positioned forward, is the sine qua non of a viable deterrent and defense posture on the alliance’s eastern flank,” Ochmanek told Foreign Policy. But he said much more needed to be done to strengthen NATO’s defenses.
The findings from the war games will be warmly welcomed by senior officers in the U.S. Army, who have struggled to justify the cost of maintaining a large ground force amid budget pressures in recent years and a preference for lighter footprints. And the report will reinforce warnings from top military leaders, including the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Joseph Dunford, that Russia may represent the number one threat to U.S. interests.
In early 2012, the Obama administration announced the withdrawal of two heavy brigades and their equipment from Germany, cutting deeply into the U.S. Army’s traditional, large footprint on the continent. Since then, the service has been slowly trying to move some hardware back into Germany for use in training exercises with NATO partners. Last year, U.S. Marines also began to roll a small number of Abrams tanks into Romania for a series of exercises with local forces.
Since Russia’s intervention in Ukraine sparked alarm in Eastern Europe, the United States has repeatedly vowed to defend Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania in the event of an attack, citing its mutual defense obligations under the NATO alliance. In a September 2014 speech in Tallinn, President Barack Obama made an explicit promise to protect the Baltic countries.
"We’ll be here for Estonia. We will be here for Latvia. We will be here for Lithuania. You lost your independence once before. With NATO, you will never lose it again,” Obama said.
But the Rand report said “neither the United States nor its NATO allies are currently prepared to back up the president’s forceful words.”
The borders that the three Baltic countries — all former Soviet republics — share with Russia and Belarus are about the same length as the one that separated West Germany from the Warsaw Pact during the Cold War. But in that era, NATO stationed a massive ground force along the frontier with more than 20 divisions bristling with tanks and artillery.
Tanks are few and far between now in NATO countries, the report said. Germany’s arsenal of about 2,200 main battle tanks in the Cold War has declined to roughly 250. Britain, meanwhile, is planning on pulling out its last brigade headquarters left on the continent.
With only light infantry units at the ready in the Baltics, U.S. and NATO planners are also worried about the continued Russian arms buildup in the exclave of Kaliningrad on the Baltic coast between Poland and Lithuania, and Moscow’s intention to build a new air force base in Belarus, just south of the Polish-Lithuanian border.
The war games run by Rand underscored how U.S. and NATO forces lack the vehicles and firepower to take on their Russian adversaries, which have maintained more mechanized and tank units. NATO ground troops also lacked anti-aircraft artillery to fend off Russian warplanes in the Baltic scenario.
“By and large, NATO’s infantry found themselves unable even to retreat successfully and were destroyed in place,” the report said.
In the war games, although U.S. and allied aircraft could inflict damage on the invading Russian forces, they also were forced to devote attention to suppressing Russia’s dense air defenses and defending against Russian air attacks on rear areas.
Although it was unclear if deploying more troops and armor would be enough to discourage Russia from gambling on an attack in the Baltics, NATO’s current weak position clearly did not pose a persuasive deterrent, the report said.
By undertaking “due diligence” and bolstering NATO’s defenses, the alliance would send “a message to Moscow of serious commitment and one of reassurance to all NATO members and to all U.S. allies and partners worldwide,” it said.
Quote:"We are in a serious situation and there is a high risk that there could be an attack. But the security agencies, the intelligence services and the police authorities are very alert and our goal is to minimize the risk as best we can.”
That’s from Hans-Georg Maassen head of Germany's domestic intelligence agency and it certainly doesn’t inspire much in the way of confidence.
In an interview with ZDF television, Maassen said the BfV has “repeatedly seen that terrorists ... have slipped into [Germany] camouflaged or disguised as refugees.”
And that’s not mere speculation. “This is a fact that the security agencies are facing,” he added.
According to comments made to the The Berliner Zeitung newspaper, BfV has received “more than 100” tips that there are ISIS fighters embedded among the 1.1 million refugees who streamed across Germany’s borders last year.
The comments come one day after German authorities arrested an Algerian man suspected of training with ISIS in Syria. The suspect, who was staying at a refugee shelter in North Rhine-Westphalia, apparently entered Germany at the Bavarian border last fall.
Several other men - two of whom were detained - with alleged ties to Islamic State were located on Thursday in a series of coordinated raids. Berlin police spokesman Stefan Redlich said they are believed to have been “planning a violent act intended to seriously damage the state.”
“Suspects encountered during a number of police raids conducted in the early morning hours Thursday had allegedly been planning to meet in Berlin to carry out terrorist attacks,” Deutsche Welle writes. “It is not known how close their plans were to completion, but German police said they believed all the suspects had active links to IS.”
(02-05-2016 01:03 PM)redpillage Wrote:(02-04-2016 10:17 PM)Dusty Wrote: The Rapefugees tried some Cologne shit in Russia. Let's just say the raping didn't go in the direction the rapefugees hoped for.
Refugees Go Clubbing In Russia, Harass Girls, Wake Up In Hospital The Next Morning
That's it - I'm moving to Russia.
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Quote:BERLIN — An Algerian couple, suspected of planning a terrorist attack in Berlin and arrested on suspicion of belonging to the Islamic State, entered Germany late last year and applied for asylum as Syrian refugees — part of a pattern of terrorism suspects entering Europe under the guise of fleeing war, the German authorities said Friday.
The police in Berlin published a photo they said was of the husband, showing a bearded man with his face blacked out, pointing a pistol at the camera, with two Kalashnikov rifles propped up beside him on a sofa strewn with other weapons. The photo was believed to have been taken in Syria, where German media reports said the man had received terrorist training with the Islamic State.
The man, not named by police but identified by the media as Farid A., 34, and his wife, 27, had been sought on an international warrant initiated by the Algerian authorities. They were under surveillance at their refugee shelter in the town of Attendorn, about an hour’s drive northeast of Cologne, and were arrested in coordinated raids in three states on Thursday. They were suspected of plotting an attack in Berlin, the police said Friday in a statement.
As many as one million asylum seekers entered Germany last year. An initial warm welcome, particularly for Syrians, soured after the terrorist attacks in and around Paris in November, which killed 130 people, and the police found documents suggesting that some assailants had entered Europe posing as refugees.
Hundreds of assaults and robberies during New Year’s Eve celebrations in Cologne, attributed to young men of Arab or North African backgrounds, further heightened fears over the consequences of the migrant influx.
On Friday, the head of Germany’s domestic intelligence agency, Hans-Georg Maassen, said the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, was using the wave of newcomers to infiltrate Europe.
The authorities in Europe have “seen repeatedly that terrorists are being smuggled in, camouflaged as refugees,” Mr. Maassen said on ZDF public television. “That is a fact that security authorities must always seek to recognize and identify.”
The Berlin police said on Friday that they had first received a tip in December from Mr. Maassen’s agency, the Office for Protection of the Constitution, that a terrorist plot might be brewing. On Jan. 10, the agency gave an unspecified concrete tip that involved suspected supporters of ISIS possibly involved in planning an attack in Berlin, a police statement said.
The tip “was taken very seriously” and intensive surveillance began, the police said. “That procedure established that the affected persons were behaving very noticeably and in a conspirative way.”
Considering the danger of a possible attack, the police weighed the chances that the suspects would detect the surveillance against the prospect of obtaining more information and decided to go “into the open,” the statement said. About 300 of the 450 police officers involved in Thursday’s raids were deployed in Berlin, where four homes and two businesses were searched. The other raids were in Attendorn and in Hanover.
In Berlin, the police arrested a 49-year-old Algerian man who they said had lived in the German capital since 2000 under various identities. He left Germany in 2013 and returned a year later with fake French identity papers, the police statement said. He had been sought on charges of falsifying documents, and remained in custody on Friday, as did the Algerian couple.
The police said they had so far not found any evidence of a concrete target in Berlin for a terrorist attack. No weapons or explosives were found in Thursday’s raids, but the police said they had seized a large number of computers, documents and mobile phones.
Another 30-year-old man was investigated in Berlin and a 25-year-old man at a refugee shelter in Hanover, the police said, but they were not detained. Both were also Algerian citizens.
The 30-year-old came to Germany in spring 2004 and currently had a valid residence permit, the police statement said. It said without further detail that the 25-year-old had had “proven contact” with Belgium, where several of the Paris terrorist assailants also had ties. German media, citing unidentified security sources, said the younger man had recently visited Molenbeek, the suburb of Brussels where several Paris assailants lived or visited.
The police statement said that all five people connected with Thursday’s raids had been offered to be formally questioned, “and this offer was partly accepted,” suggesting that one or more of those held might give more information about the alleged plan for an attack.
Asked how much Germany should fear a terrorist attack, Mr. Maassen suggested that was the wrong question.
“The expression ‘fear’ is the wrong one here,” he said. “We are in a situation which is serious, and we have a high risk that there can be a terrorist attack.”
But, he added, security services and the police are on high alert. “Our goal is to minimize the risk,” he said.
Quote:Berlin (CNN)A Berlin teen who claimed to have been abducted and gang-raped by migrants, sparking angry protests and an international row with Russia, has admitted making up the story and was found to have been staying with a German man instead, an official said Monday.
The 13-year-old girl -- a member of Berlin's Russian-speaking community -- made the rape claim to police when she returned after a 30-hour absence last month. She alleged that three men of Arabic and Turkish descent had dragged her into a car at a train station and abused her.
(02-05-2016 05:58 PM)redpillage Wrote: Lucky - have you been catching up on the European threads lately? Because the link you posted about ISIS smuggling terrorists via migration routes was posted twice today - once by me and once by Samseau. The story about the teen lying about the rape has its own thread already. Just FYI ;-)
(02-06-2016 04:37 AM)Mrredsquare Wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...onths.html
Quote:Iraqi migrant raped a 10-year-old boy at a swimming pool in Vienna and told police it was a 'sexual emergency' because he hadn't had sex in months.
This boils my blood to the core.
(02-05-2016 05:19 AM)Tresor Wrote: Assuming that only 1% of the refugees that came to Europe in 2015 are able/willing to organize and fight, they have already outnumbered the French military - which is supposed to have roughly 30 000 combat-ready men at any given time - by a ratio of more than 3 to 1.