Post: #1

I was watching this video by Stefan Molyneux the other day (I will link below) in regards to Miley Cyrus and the usual Manosphere declaration. On how women should spend the years in their sexual prime, trying to lock down a high value man to start a family with; rather than behaving like Miley Cyrus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKC8yZ4yW2w

But what I found interesting was how he explained the process of over stimulating images of Miley Cyrus and in general (This can be expanded into pornography) do a great deal of damage to men. Firstly by blinding them, getting them into that state of heat where they lose all reason and simply want to fuck.

This of course leads to problems, as men need to be careful with who they are having sex with. Old taoist teachings laid claim that women essentially absorb that man's sexual essence and energy in the process of having sex with him. But then of course we have the practical implications, of being with a woman who may be attractive and have good marketing but essentially further down the line, could pose a threat in terms of divorce or raising your children in a dysfunctional manner.

Anyway I suggest watching the video but on a much larger note, the constant bombardment of sexual images, in porn, music or just in general. Must be leading to negative consequences in terms of distracting masculine focus and growth. Instead of developing your mind and entire self, men from the ages of 15-25 are chasing after loose women.

When you have a beautiful woman nearby and you are about to have sex, your entire brain functioning begins to shut down. Resulting you in a state where you just think with your penis, your lower self. With the promotion of porn and sexual images on a daily basis; this is constantly artificially stimulating young men to the point in which they are desensitised.

Essentially rational and reason get thrown out of the window. This is the main reason why men who have no game, usually behave incredibly stupid and strangely around attractive women. Where as the calm, cool calculated man who enjoys the moment, wins the praise and adoration from the females.

On the whole it makes us question on why the media constantly promotes sex and the whole market mechanism that makes women living by conservative feminine standards seem completely and unusual. They do say that once masculinity and femininity are forbidden to be seen in the outside arena. As you can tell by the adrogoynous society we are living in, then it becomes amplified in the bedroom, for it is the only outlet for it.

Post: #2

This is true.

You Americans don't even realize that you are obsessed about sex to an extreme level.

All the Holywood movies show that all that the young men are thinking in USA is about:
1)Getting a date to dah big and holyy "PROM"
2)losing one's virginity
3)later about scoring "notches" (or staying fateful to some unworthy bitch.)


The few American young men I have spoken with prove that they have bought these things as very important and focus on them a lot.

If I contrast that to my own youth in Eastern Europe - young boys are much more preoccupied with sports, hobbies and the smarter ones also with education. Of course worries about attracing the opposite sex are still there but it is not such a high priority as in American culture.
I imagine in some muslim country were women are veiled and cover themselves men don't give a shit about casual sex even more.

I am a big supporter of sex separated education. I believe boys would do much better without girls distracting them.

Also it's a law that the more men are thinking about sex in society the less they are getting it. "Oversexed" means that sex is shown and spoken about a lot but not much of actual sex happens in average guy's life.

Post: #3

(09-04-2015 07:02 AM)Mage Wrote:  This is true.

You Americans don't even realize that you are obsessed about sex to an extreme level.

All the Holywood movies show that all that the young men are thinking in USA is about:
1)Getting a date to dah big and holyy "PROM"
2)losing one's virginity
3)later about scoring "notches" (or staying fateful to some unworthy bitch.)


The few American young men I have spoken with prove that they have bought these things as very important and focus on them a lot.

If I contrast that to my own youth in Eastern Europe - young boys are much more preoccupied with sports, hobbies and the smarter ones also with education. Of course worries about attracing the opposite sex are still there but it is not such a high priority as in American culture.
I imagine in some muslim country were women are veiled and cover themselves men don't give a shit about casual sex even more.

I am a big supporter of sex separated education. I believe boys would do much better without girls distracting them.

Also it's a law that the more men are thinking about sex in society the less they are getting it. "Oversexed" means that sex is shown and spoken about a lot but not much of actual sex happens in average guy's life.

This is very much the same in the UK. I agree with your conclusion, as well, that the degree to which average men are so preoccupied by sex stands in an inverse relationship with the amount of sex they are getting. The elephant in the room in the Anglosphere has a name: hypergamy. It may be true that there's never been as much non-committal sex occurring as is the case today, but it's an ever decreasing percentage of the male demographic who are getting it; a fact which explains the rise of inceldom in the West.

Post: #4

(09-04-2015 07:02 AM)Mage Wrote:  This is true.

You Americans don't even realize that you are obsessed about sex to an extreme level.

All the Holywood movies show that all that the young men are thinking in USA is about:
1)Getting a date to dah big and holyy "PROM"
2)losing one's virginity
3)later about scoring "notches" (or staying fateful to some unworthy bitch.)


The few American young men I have spoken with prove that they have bought these things as very important and focus on them a lot.

If I contrast that to my own youth in Eastern Europe - young boys are much more preoccupied with sports, hobbies and the smarter ones also with education. Of course worries about attracing the opposite sex are still there but it is not such a high priority as in American culture.
I imagine in some muslim country were women are veiled and cover themselves men don't give a shit about casual sex even more.

I am a big supporter of sex separated education. I believe boys would do much better without girls distracting them.

Also it's a law that the more men are thinking about sex in society the less they are getting it. "Oversexed" means that sex is shown and spoken about a lot but not much of actual sex happens in average guy's life.

I think too that the problem with an oversexed society is that the more you want sex, the less you get and it gets in the way of doing other productive things with your life such as saving money, staying fit and active, and doing social activities such as sports and music. You attract girls by being a better person and not by wanting them so bad; society needs to stress this rather than the sheer need for sex. That is the one of the things that has attracted me to this forum. I know because this distracted me during college. All people talked about was girls and sex and I suffered throughout college focusing on that instead of getting good grades and achieving academically.

Post: #5

(09-04-2015 07:35 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 07:02 AM)Mage Wrote:  This is true.

You Americans don't even realize that you are obsessed about sex to an extreme level.

All the Holywood movies show that all that the young men are thinking in USA is about:
1)Getting a date to dah big and holyy "PROM"
2)losing one's virginity
3)later about scoring "notches" (or staying fateful to some unworthy bitch.)


The few American young men I have spoken with prove that they have bought these things as very important and focus on them a lot.

If I contrast that to my own youth in Eastern Europe - young boys are much more preoccupied with sports, hobbies and the smarter ones also with education. Of course worries about attracing the opposite sex are still there but it is not such a high priority as in American culture.
I imagine in some muslim country were women are veiled and cover themselves men don't give a shit about casual sex even more.

I am a big supporter of sex separated education. I believe boys would do much better without girls distracting them.

Also it's a law that the more men are thinking about sex in society the less they are getting it. "Oversexed" means that sex is shown and spoken about a lot but not much of actual sex happens in average guy's life.

I think too that the problem with an oversexed society is that the more you want sex, the less you get and it gets in the way of doing other productive things with your life such as saving money, staying fit and active, and doing social activities such as sports and music. You attract girls by being a better person and not by wanting them so bad; society needs to stress this rather than the sheer need for sex. That is the one of the things that has attracted me to this forum. I know because this distracted me during college. All people talked about was girls and sex and I suffered throughout college focusing on that instead of getting good grades and achieving academically.

Sure, I agree but it's not that simple, especially not for young horn dogs in their late teens and twenties. If the price of sex wasn't so highly inflated in the Anglosphere, guys wouldn't fret so much over it and this is a point that you need to keep in mind, just as the guy from eastern Europe makes clear. In other words, the obsession with sex in the West is not a phenomenon that has arisen sui generis without a context, but is itself a reflexion in large part of the distressed sexual market place for the vast majority of men.

Post: #6

The reality is that extreme sexual prevalence in media would be present today regardless of American men's desire for casual or constant sex. Business moguls, especially those detached from concern for maintaining the traditional values of the land, have no qualms in exploiting base desires that are hard to control in order to become richer.

If you actually look into popular media featuring young males, most of it relies on fear mongering over social standing to sell its product. The prom trope:
you'll set your legacy by who you take and if you have sex. Going alone or not going is social death.
Losing virginity:
men are typically lesser creatures of women and need to beg an act of them to gain a certain level of self respect and respect from others. Do what you have to in order to earn the embrace of a woman. Your bodies are strange, embarrassing and deformed compared to the female version.
The terrible/whoring girlfriend trope:
This is the best the common man can expect and as much as he can ask for. Looking for better involves much pain and only a "soul mate" will value you as a person. Deal with it

In the media's own interest, mildly attractive girls like miley cyrus sell us sex on looping broadcast because it's in the best interest of the soulless corporate boards to keep making profit on what they believe is an endless supply of male angst and desperation.
Sometimes it's just the perfect storm culturally for such things. In the multicultural united states there are unintended causes of this at times and other times it's nonviolent culture clash.

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/201...f-culture/