Post: #1

Roosh tweeted this link today:

https://in.news.yahoo.com/italian-lesbia...16996.html

Quote:Pope Francis has sent his blessing to a lesbian author of children's books dealing with same-sex families, wishing her and her wife well in their work, it emerged on Friday.

As Vatican officials scrambled to clarify that the message was simply a standard courtesy which did not signal any change in Church teaching on the subject, the author told AFP she had been pleasantly surprised to have received such a positive response.
Francesca Pardi, who writes and publishes books such as "Why you have two mummies", wrote to Francis in June after the publishing company she runs with her wife came under fire from Christian groups.

She included examples of her works, some of which have recently been controversially withdrawn from nurseries and primary schools by a new mayor in Venice.

"My books present different types of families without setting any of them up as a model," Pardi told AFP, praising the pope for having responded in a manner that showed "respect and dignity" towards her, her wife and their four children.

"It was not important for me that it was the pope who said it, I am not a Catholic. But it is important to see that we are not up against a wall. A dialogue is possible," she added.
"Books are to be opened, to be read and to be criticised. What you don't do is ban them."

In his message, the pope wished the two women "ever more fruitful work in the service of young generations and in spreading authentic human and Christian values."
Francis has signalled that he wants the Church to adopt a more pragmatic and understanding approach to the situation of believers living in gay relationships, an attitude reflected in his famous "who am I to judge" remark on the subject.

But proposals to integrate a shift to a more welcoming tone into the conclusions of an ongoing Church review of its teaching on the family have been opposed by conservatives.

Bishops from around the world will return to the subject at a Vatican synod in October which will seek to find a compromise on that and other divisive issues.

Pardi and her partner got married in Spain. Italy is the only major western European country that has no provision for same sex couples to have their unions legally recognised. The centre-left government has pledged to enact legislation introducing the possibility of civil unions by the end of this year but there are no plans to legalise gay marriage.

Fucking disgusting. The Pope is a pedophile most likely as well. What man supports teaching of children about homo relationships? It is beyond filthy, not to mention contradiction of everything taught in the Bible.

If Catholics do not completely abandon their churches after this, then they just aren't even a little serious about God.

As for those on this forum who do not know the Truth about gays:

- A tremendous amount of homosexuals are the result of childhood molestation. Perhaps as high as 50%.
- Homosexuality isn't genetic. Identical twin studies reveal that when one twin is gay, the chance the other twin is gay is only 10-15%. If gayness was genetic, both twins would be gay 100% of the time because identical twins have the same DNA.
- Research of Lesbian and Gay couples reveal the children have FUCKED UP outcomes, resulting tons of sexual abuse, higher chances to divorce with a partner in the future, drug use, be unemployed, commit suicide, be raped, and become homosexual themselves.

Conclusion: Homosexuality is a disease. Either a pathogen or a mental illness. Either way, it's extremely horrible that our society promotes and tolerates a disease that causes so much death and destruction.

This Pope is antichrist (with a small 'a'). The Catholic church is beyond corrupt, as the pedo priest scandal revealed, but for the man who is supposed to represent the entire church as well as be 'infallible' to openly support homosexuality is the last nail in the coffin for this pozzed out fag church.

If you happen to know any Catholics, let them know about this so they can get the hell out.

Post: #2

The church needs Trump.

Post: #3

I honestly don't much know about this Pope, but the messages he keeps sending can't be good.

With his belief in global warming, open borders immigration policies, and his failure to condemn homosexuality can lead to a schism within the church.

The Catholic church has likely been infiltrated and I'm starting to wonder if these Pope was part of the lavender mafia

Post: #4

The chair has been empty for several decades. This anti-pope isn't even a real priest.

If you're at all religious, read about La Salette, Lourdes and Fatima some time, Rome will fall dramatically. Read about the "Enthronement Ritual" that Malachi Martin wrote about in Windswept House - that really happened.

Post: #5

To feel morally superior by conformity, ah, how sweet and easy it is to live without immediate personal consequence! 100 years ago he would have called for an exorcism of the same Sappho he now praises.

Post: #6

Well I guess the Pope listens to these guys.

Post: #7

I just find it amusing that as Europe is experiencing its worst invasion in centuries and ISIS continues to slaughter Christians and threaten the very foundation of their culture, this Pope is more interested in looking good to SJW's. The Papacy was once the foremost defender of Christendom and Western Civilization. Now it cucks for the left.

And for this privilege I get to have my city clogged to the hilt for his visit next month.

Post: #8

(08-29-2015 04:55 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote:Vatican officials scrambled to clarify that the message was simply a standard courtesy which did not signal any change in Church teaching on the subject

Because this is not a statement about catholic doctrine, the pope here is not considered infallible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility

As for the scandals, the church is the largest bureaucracy in the world, as well as an incredibly wealth entity. Among other things, it is the worlds largest land owner. I don't have the time to check, but per capita I would expect its corruption is not unusual.

As always, sensationalism and a lack of context seems the rule of law where statements about religion are concerned.

Still, I will await the second counter-reformation.

In the meantime I would ask you this: what do you consider a viable alternative to Catholicism, which is a European religion built in a substantial part upon Roman traditions, whose saints are the greco roman gods made flesh?

Post: #9

(08-29-2015 04:55 PM)Samseau Wrote:  - Homosexuality isn't genetic. Identical twin studies reveal that when one twin is gay, the chance the other twin is gay is only 10-15%. If gayness was genetic, both twins would be gay 100% of the time because identical twins have the same DNA.

While I agree with the general direction of your post, this argument is not sound.

If one of two twin brothers becomes a track and field champion, his genetics may very well have given him a significant boost. This is not invalidated by his twin not becoming a successful athlete.

The "gay genes" (if they exist) may very well just increase the probability of homosexuality, not necessarily cause a binary state of either homo- or heterosexuality.

In addition, it could also be that a genes poses a dormant threat (of getting a certain type of cancer for example), but there still needs to be interaction with the environment to trigger the actual state (for example a high-stress phase in your life, or a hormonal level falling below a certain threshhold)

Post: #10

(08-29-2015 06:41 PM)Sgt Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 04:55 PM)Samseau Wrote:  - Homosexuality isn't genetic. Identical twin studies reveal that when one twin is gay, the chance the other twin is gay is only 10-15%. If gayness was genetic, both twins would be gay 100% of the time because identical twins have the same DNA.

While I agree with the general direction of your post, this argument is not sound.

If one of two twin brothers becomes a track and field champion, his genetics may very well have given him a significant boost. This is not invalidated by his twin not becoming a successful athlete.

Right, and no one claims becoming a track and field champion is genetic.

Quote:The "gay genes" (if they exist) may very well just increase the probability of homosexuality, not necessarily cause a binary state of either homo- or heterosexuality.

Sure. Genetics can make people suspectible to diseases. But again the variance rate between the twins was only 10-15%, which is very very low. If it was a genetic weakness that made one twin weak to gayness then the chances of both of them being gay would be much higher.

For example, alcoholism if present in one twin is almost sure to be a very real threat or present to the other twin. Alcoholism actually runs in families and there is a case for genetic alcoholism. Gayness does not because it is inherently anti-life.

Quote:In addition, it could also be that a genes poses a dormant threat (of getting a certain type of cancer for example), but there still needs to be interaction with the environment to trigger the actual state (for example a high-stress phase in your life, or a hormonal level falling below a certain threshhold)

True but this does not invalidate the soundness of my argument. This completely supports my assertion that gayness is not genetically inherited.

Post: #11

Quote:"My books present different types of families without setting any of them up as a model," Pardi told AFP, praising the pope for having responded in a manner that showed "respect and dignity" towards her, her wife and their four children.

This is also known as false equivalency. You don't have to set up a household headed by carpetlickers as a "model", all you have to do is show it's as good as a heterosexual one - when it isn't.

Quote:"It was not important for me that it was the pope who said it, I am not a Catholic. But it is important to see that we are not up against a wall. A dialogue is possible," she added.
"Books are to be opened, to be read and to be criticised. What you don't do is ban them."

When the fuck did the Catholic Church last ban a book? If anybody's screaming for the banning of books right now, it's SJWs on Amazon against a certain heterosexual author we all know.

Post: #12

(08-29-2015 06:41 PM)Sgt Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 04:55 PM)Samseau Wrote:  - Homosexuality isn't genetic. Identical twin studies reveal that when one twin is gay, the chance the other twin is gay is only 10-15%. If gayness was genetic, both twins would be gay 100% of the time because identical twins have the same DNA.

While I agree with the general direction of your post, this argument is not sound.

If one of two twin brothers becomes a track and field champion, his genetics may very well have given him a significant boost. This is not invalidated by his twin not becoming a successful athlete.

The "gay genes" (if they exist) may very well just increase the probability of homosexuality, not necessarily cause a binary state of either homo- or heterosexuality.

In addition, it could also be that a genes poses a dormant threat (of getting a certain type of cancer for example), but there still needs to be interaction with the environment to trigger the actual state (for example a high-stress phase in your life, or a hormonal level falling below a certain threshhold)

I think the whole gay gene thing is BS. I believe from my analysis that it is a development of taste. We acquire a taste for alot of different things. Some get a taste for gay. We are going to see a whole lot more of this because kids are being pushed towards it with the gay agenda getting so much play.
If you dont believe me, think back to how you acquired the taste for pussy. Pussy is fucking ugly. Until you get a taste for it.

Post: #13

You can at least admire the fact that Islam has stayed the same for centuries while Christianity has been co-opted countless times and had the rules re-written to suit whoever at the time. Islam will proudly throw you off a roof for being gay and they're beloved by SJWs while Christianity conceeds to SJWs and becomes more hated. It's like Trump vs Cuckservatives.

Post: #14

(08-29-2015 07:15 PM)EuphoricWizard Wrote:  You can at least admire the fact that Islam has stayed the same for centuries while Christianity has been co-opted countless times and had the rules re-written to suit whoever at the time. Islam will proudly throw you off a roof for being gay and they're beloved by SJWs while Christianity conceeds to SJWs and becomes more hated. It's like Trump vs Cuckservatives.

This isn't true my friend, Islam has also had periods of corruption and being co-opted. Never with this gay shit though.

Post: #15

Fortunately, the record of Popes changing doctrine is against him.

Catholic forums are not afraid of him, and also expect Liberal Catholicism to die out as they are less fecund and less devoted generally.

Post: #16

This shouldn't surprise anybody. The Roman Catholic church has always been corrupt. It's the Whore of Babylon.

From banking scandals to assassinating it's own pope's to the Jesuit Order being banned because it meddled with nations.

Post: #17

It's funny to argue homosexuality from an evolution point of view.

When I used to waste my breath with the vehement science crowd I would lead them along as if I was some sort of religious bigot against homosexuality.

Then switch to "Homosexuality is totally against evolution. It's a disease that should have been killed out but somehow has kept going. Science needs to come up with a way to cure homosexuality in order for our species to progress".

And then watch them fizz.

Post: #18

The church is just another business these days.

Post: #19

I could say - "It's the year 2015, why is anyone paying attention to a man in a dress?"

Yet, over there happens to be Bruce "Caitlyn" Jenner...

Post: #20

Samseau, what do you think of this video? Starts at 2:10. Watch the whole thing through.

Post: #21

I will be honest, as an Orthodox Christian I find a certain level of amusement reading about the the current Pope and his successful undermining of the Catholic Church.

Post: #22

(08-30-2015 04:14 PM)FilipSRB Wrote:  I will be honest, as an Orthodox Christian I find a certain level of amusement reading about the the current Pope and his successful undermining of the Catholic Church.

This is an important point to raise. People who sweep the catholic church together with Orthodox and Protestant divisions and call it 'the church' or 'christianity' are making an error. The entire protestant separation happened because people believed that the word of god is contained in the bible, not a man with a funny white hat. The catholic church kept the bible out of normal people's hands and said "oh no, we'll read it all to you in a language that you don't understand and then tell you what it means...and then trump it with the Pope's authority if we need to".

When the papacy shows its corruption, serious protestants say "told you so" they don't try to defend it. Much of english and irish history has people dying to oppose the catholic church and vice versa.

Remember, catholics are the only 'church' that worships Mary, catholics are ones who ran the spanish inquisition...and guess what people were killed for? Being protestant sympathizers, owning bibles, disavowing the pope etc. Catholics are the ones with the global kid fucking scandal...not 'christians' or 'the church' a a whole.

Post: #23

(08-29-2015 06:41 PM)Sgt Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 04:55 PM)Samseau Wrote:  - Homosexuality isn't genetic. Identical twin studies reveal that when one twin is gay, the chance the other twin is gay is only 10-15%. If gayness was genetic, both twins would be gay 100% of the time because identical twins have the same DNA.

The "gay genes" (if they exist).......

*spoiler alert*


They don't.

Post: #24

It's pretty well known that the Roman Catholic Church has a lot of gays in the priesthood. There has even been talk of a "gay lobby" inside the Vatican.

Still, I don't see how Protestants can feel superior on this issue. Here in New England it seems like half of the Episcopal and Unitarian churches are flying rainbow flags with signs saying, "A Welcoming Congregation" or something like that. Granted, you have your different denominations.

Post: #25

Rather the pope goes retard.