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I'd like this thread to compile any and all interesting analyses of the West by former Soviet dissidents. In the 20th century, Democracy, Fascism, and Communism squared off against each other. Fascism was the first relegated to the dustbin of history, and our liberal democracy was the ultimate victor, but Communism survived for quite a long time as a society apart from ours in a way that no large region of the world can really claim to be. As such the brilliant men from the USSR have a unique outsider's perspective on our system to offer us.

Here is Vladamir Bukovsky, Soviet Dissident who was called on by the Russian government to provide testimony on whether the Communist Party had been a criminal organization. In the investigation he was allowed access to many documents which are to this day classified. He recounts a pact between the former USSR and leftist parties in Europe to swing the EU towards socialism.

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Quote:n 1992 I had unprecedented access to Politburo and Central Committee secret documents which have been classified, and still are even now, for 30 years. These documents show very clearly that the whole idea of turning the European common market into a federal state was agreed between the left-wing parties of Europe and Moscow as a joint project which [Soviet leader Mikhail] Gorbachev in 1988-89 called our “common European home.”

The idea was very simple. It first came up in 1985-86, when the Italian Communists visited Gorbachev, followed by the German Social-Democrats. They all complained that the changes in the world, particularly after [British Prime Minister Margaret] Thatcher introduced privatisation and economic liberalisation, were threatening to wipe out the achievement (as they called it) of generations of Socialists and Social-Democrats – threatening to reverse it completely. Therefore the only way to withstand this onslaught of wild capitalism (as they called it) was to try to introduce the same socialist goals in all countries at once. Prior to that, the left-wing parties and the Soviet Union had opposed European integration very much because they perceived it as a means to block their socialist goals. From 1985 onwards they completely changed their view. The Soviets came to a conclusion and to an agreement with the left-wing parties that if they worked together they could hijack the whole European project and turn it upside down. Instead of an open market they would turn it into a federal state.

According to the [secret Soviet] documents, 1985-86 is the turning point. I have published most of these documents. You might even find them on the internet. But the conversations they had are really eye opening. For the first time you understand that there is a conspiracy – quite understandable for them, as they were trying to save their political hides. In the East the Soviets needed a change of relations with Europe because they were entering a protracted and very deep structural crisis; in the West the left-wing parties were afraid of being wiped out and losing their influence and prestige. So it was a conspiracy, quite openly made by them, agreed upon, and worked out.

In January of 1989, for example, a delegation of the Trilateral Commission came to see Gorbachev. It included [former Japanese Prime Minister Yasuhiro] Nakasone, [former French President Valéry] Giscard d’Estaing, [American banker David] Rockefeller and [former US Secretary of State Henry] Kissinger. They had a very nice conversation where they tried to explain to Gorbachev that Soviet Russia had to integrate into the financial institutions of the world, such as Gatt, the IMF and the World Bank.

In the middle of it Giscard d’Estaing suddenly takes the floor and says: “Mr President, I cannot tell you exactly when it will happen – probably within 15 years – but Europe is going to be a federal state and you have to prepare yourself for that. You have to work out with us, and the European leaders, how you would react to that, how would you allow the other Easteuropean countries to interact with it or how to become a part of it, you have to be prepared.”

This was January 1989, at a time when the [1992] Maastricht treaty had not even been drafted. How the hell did Giscard d’Estaing know what was going to happen in 15 years time? And surprise, surprise, how did he become the author of the European constitution [in 2002-03]? A very good question. It does smell of conspiracy, doesn’t it?

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/865

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08-13-2015 07:09 AM
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From the horse's mouth

Matriarchy begins, Gorbachev says

Quote:Moscow, September 25 (MIA) - Matriarchy begins, former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev said at a conference "Challenges and Values of the Modern World: Dialogue of Women."

- We are moving towards the matriarchy and men should be prepared for this that they should rest in the next 100 to 200 years, he said.

- Family, education, culture, health, science are due to the efforts of the women in entire world, he pointed out.

Similar views were expressed by other participants at the conference - experts, social workers and politicologists from US, Germany, French and other countries. New book of memoirs dedicated to Gorbachev's wife was presented at the conference.
08-13-2015 08:34 AM
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This guy explains it all.

Long but once you see it, you cant un see it.

Yuri Bevmanov

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5It1zarINv0
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08-17-2015 05:57 PM
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I don't think fascism ever really ended. In fact, I see collusion between government and corporations getting worse with socialism being a means to pacify the masses as the change continues.
08-17-2015 08:40 PM
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