Post: #276

(08-14-2015 10:32 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  I wonder how the twitter tweeter mom...Sarah feels that Dinovo has stolen her spotlight and assumed the limelight on this whole thing.

This Cheri DiNovo isn't credible on anything having to do with "rape." She should recuse herself from this matter entirely.

DiNovo claims to have been sexually assaulted twice in her life. If we take her at her word (and we should), that's still very unusual statistically. Even if we take the "1-in-5 women are raped" statistic as truth (though it's been repeatedly discredited as wildly exaggerated), how many women are raped twice in their lifetimes, by different people? I'm sure that's a tiny number, even by the most unscientific numbers.

Cheri DiNovo clearly has unresolved psychological issues with her own experiences with sexual assault. While, as a human being, I extend her some measure of empathy, her insistence on placing herself in this manufactured conversation about "rape culture" is intellectually dishonest and politically opportunistic (and I'll add that Roosh has been, in a sick twist of irony, disingenuously forced into that discussion, since rape isn't his message in this speech, and never has been). By her own admission, DiNovo distrusts all men (see below). This is not a person that should be speaking on any matters involving the public, but especially this issue.

Cheri DiNovo is a minor politician trying to score political points at the expense of a non-issue stirred up by non-entities who are lying about the nature of a minor event. This thing fails the smell test from top to bottom.

I'm certain she will lose more support from this foolhardy political stunt than she will gain from it. She's siding with opponents of free speech and outright criminals against a simple gathering of ordinary guys. All because she still can't trust men--as she states in her own words--after her tragic experiences decades ago.

Quote:Cheri DiNovo, Ontario NDP MPP, Says She Was Raped

Ontario New Democrat MPP Cheri DiNovo says she was the victim of sexual assault on two separate occasions.

DiNovo, a United Church of Canada minister who has represented the Toronto riding of Parkdale-High Park since 2006, shared the revelations in an interview with Maclean's reporter Genna Buck, published online Tuesday.

The MPP said both assaults happened in her 20s and were not reported to the police.

DiNovo said the first incident involved an ex-boyfriend who chased her around the house after she said she did not want to have sex.

"I wouldn’t say he was violent exactly, but it was violence without having bruises. Finally, I just kind of succumbed," she said. "It was rape. There was no question about it. I didn’t tell anybody. I walked away and life went on. I'm a Baby Boomer, and I think for my generation it was just a common thing."

The second incident involved a stranger holding a knife to her neck in an alleyway and fondling her.

"So I've experienced both the 'stranger danger' version and the 'best friend' version of sexual assault," she told Maclean's.

   

Quote:‘Finally, I just kind of succumbed. It was rape’

Excerpted from above:

The experience made me more guarded. It makes you—and this is probably true of a lot of women of my generation—you never really trust men. And I think that’s a pretty sad statement. I also felt a lot of guilt. I felt guilty for breaking up with him and breaking his heart. Maybe, somewhere deep in my psyche, I believed that this was what I deserved.

   

Post: #277

Roosh in the National Post:

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/bl...2015-08-15

Quote:Who is Roosh V? Sexist pickup ‘artist’ says outrage in Canada only makes him stronger

TORONTO — The phone call from the most hated man in Canada is being interrupted, an agitated voice audible on the other end of the line.

“Some woman is taking a photo of me,” Barack Obama tells a reporter from a building lobby somewhere in Montreal.

“Some fat person, some fat Latin woman, she’s old and ugly — I’m going to go up to the guard and say I’m being assaulted by an unattractive woman. Can you call me back?”

This is how Obama, who goes by the moniker “Roosh V,” refers to women he doesn’t like; also known as “undateables” and “unf—ables,” in his lexicon of pickup “artistry.”

Before his last appearance in Canada Saturday, the Washington, D.C.-born writer (he has self-published 15 books on how to “bang” women) and speaker (he’s here to wrap up his “world tour.” speaking to small crowds of men who want to learn “the game”) is behaving like a hunted animal.

And in some ways, he is: there’s a petition with nearly 45,000 signatures urging his public denunciation and denial from businesses for “hate speech,” which includes the idea rape should be legal if it happens in a person’s home.

Toronto Mayor John Tory and Twitter-famous city councillor Norm Kelly denounced him this week, as did politicians in Quebec. A protest against rape culture is planned in Toronto to coincide with his scheduled talk in the city Saturday. He had a drink thrown in his face after an event in Montreal and filed a complaint with police.

Far from a victim, Obama is an intentionally offensive provocateur who considers himself a martyr-warrior in a battle of the sexes at a particularly polarizing time.

Social and mainstream media have given more prominence to feminist and social justice issues, the swell bringing in everything from the Bill Cosby rape scandal and the sordid narrative of Jian Ghomeshi to Halifax’s Rehtaeh Parsons. At the same time, there has been aggressive pushback by those who see the rising prominence of feminism as a direct threat to men, the political correctness and ideology seeking to stamp out traditional forms of masculinity.

It’s become a highly charged, all-out war. While feminists vocally denounce Obama and all he stands for, the 36-year-old says the outrage in Canada (which he claims is the most dangerous country he’s ever visited) while taken “out of context” and built on lies, only makes him stronger.

“It has validated all the ideas we have been talking about for years and years — how men are being silenced and censored and how women are elevated,” he says, adding he’s had inquiries from 70 men who want to come to his event of about 50 in Toronto.

The silencing and censorship seem to go both ways. Obama has allegedly encouraged followers of his online forum to monitor protest participants “tactics and public comments” and seduce them to draw out information.

The National Post contacted several prominent Canadian feminist activists this week to discuss the tense interactions between them and men’s rights activists.

One declined to respond because she had recently been “besieged by so much hateful, violent misogynist trolling for weeks on end that I could barely see straight.” The Vancouver woman who launched the petition against Roosh V also turned down an interview with the Post.

“To be honest he doesn’t sound like someone I want to waste time thinking about… And you can quote me on that, if you want,” said Laura Kipnis, an academic and the contrarian feminist author of Men: Notes from an Ongoing Investigation.

Lashing out can, in some ways, amount to taking the bait.

“I hate to put it this way, but they want that to happen,” says Jeff Perera, a male feminist and healthy masculinity advocate in Toronto. “You can see Roosh on social media — he’s celebrating, he’s vindicated. He’s saying ‘This is what I need to do to get myself to a mainstream level.’ ”

While that’s the “sad truth” of it, he said, it’s no reason for people not to speak out — in fact, for those activists, it may make it more necessary.

The Black Lives Matter movement, for example, reveals how thrusting the problem into the spotlight and voicing outrage whenever something emblematic of that problem occurs — say, another black youth shot by police — does lead to change, he says.

It draws attention from lawmakers like Kelly, who says he hadn’t heard about Obama until several people on Twitter flagged his visit to Toronto.

He looked deeper into Obama’s Twitter presence and “what I was able to discover, frankly, was appalling,” he said.

“Urging all venue locations in Toronto to deny @rooshv the opportunity to use their space,” he tweeted Monday. “He and his views are not welcome in Toronto.” The tweet was shared 966 times on the site.

But the Toronto show will still go on.

After the phone call interruption, Obama gets back on the line and says the woman who allegedly took his photo had asked him if he was going to rape her.

“I’m thinking, ‘No way, not even if you paid me,’ ” he says, laughing. “So she escaped into the bathroom and I’m just milling around because I want to get her photo.

“This is just some dumb stuff. But I can handle it … I’m glad you were able to hear it and see it. This is how bad it is.”

Post: #278

Rippity Rappity Rape
DiNovo wants to stir up some hate
She got pumped & dumped
By a cad with some front
But it's
Rippity Rappity Rape.

From Tuths sleuthing we can see no rapes occurred here. At worst she got touched up.

Post: #279

(08-14-2015 11:36 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  Roosh in the National Post:

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/bl...2015-08-15

Quote:Who is Roosh V? Sexist pickup ‘artist’ says outrage in Canada only makes him stronger

TORONTO — The phone call from the most hated man in Canada is being interrupted, an agitated voice audible on the other end of the line.

Quote:The National Post contacted several prominent Canadian feminist activists this week to discuss the tense interactions between them and men’s rights activists.

One declined to respond because she had recently been “besieged by so much hateful, violent misogynist trolling for weeks on end that I could barely see straight.” The Vancouver woman who launched the petition against Roosh V also turned down an interview with the Post.

So Roosh is giving interviews to the mainstream media while the feministas are refusing to speak? What kind of a crazy upside down world is this?

Post: #280

Quote:“Some woman is taking a photo of me,” Barack Obama tells a reporter from a building lobby somewhere in Montreal.

“Some fat person, some fat Latin woman, she’s old and ugly — I’m going to go up to the guard and say I’m being assaulted by an unattractive woman. Can you call me back?”

GO you good thing!

Post: #281

Rape had Political Power at University's in the last wave of Political Correct Madness in the 90's. The difference is third wave feminists without the attention-gaining power of genuine sexual abuse would share stories of how they were 'Almost Raped'.

In the 90's, this politician would have been Almost Raped, but with the subjective reality of fourth wavers, i.e. feels = reals

Quote:"it was violence without having bruises."

... she's comfortable labelling Almost Raped as Genuine Rape, thus devaluing the pain of true victims.

Note her words:

Quote:"I wouldn’t say he was violent exactly,"

"I wouldn't" and "exactly". It's weasel language:

See this post from last year, where a Crusading Rape Survivor suddenly changed her oft-repeated story in my company. What did she say?

Quote:"I wouldn't exactly call it rape."

Back to this Politician. To make matter worse, she then describes how she was held at knifepoint in an alley, and fondled - even here she's vague about actual penetrative rape, but did nothing about it.

So on one hand, we have Roosh, being used as a symbol of rape culture, for writing a satirical article suggesting women be more cautious with their bodies.

On the other hand, we have a politician who didn't report a rape, for various hamster related reasons, that enabling a rapist to continue abusing women. How many women were raped by Cheri DiNovo's inaction? By Lena Dunham's?

Who is the person who has actually contributed to rape culture in this situation, assuming she's an reliable narrator?

What's that thing SJW's always do? It's right on the tip of my tongue...

Post: #282

Link: http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/bl...2015-08-15
I can't believe that the biggest OG in Canadian media history, Sir Conrad Black, published this trash on his website.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_Black

Post: #283

(08-14-2015 11:36 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  “I hate to put it this way, but they want that to happen,” says Jeff Perera, a male feminist and healthy masculinity advocate in Toronto. ”

Will definitely start taking advice on how to be masculine from this guy.

Post: #284

Who is Roosh V? Sexist pickup ‘artist’ says outrage in Canada only makes him stronger

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada...m-stronger

Post: #285

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-rape-...vicenewsfb

VICE news on it as well now.

Post: #286

Jesus. Reading this Vice article is hauntingly reminiscent of Atlas Shrugged.

Neither the media or these women have an ounce of integrity or self-awareness. There is no communicating logically with people like this.

Post: #287

(08-15-2015 12:23 AM)Last Parade Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 11:36 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  “I hate to put it this way, but they want that to happen,” says Jeff Perera, a male feminist and healthy masculinity advocate in Toronto. ”

Will definitely start taking advice on how to be masculine from this guy.

Wow, most amazing neckbeard I have ever seen.

Post: #288

(08-15-2015 12:23 AM)Last Parade Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 11:36 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  “I hate to put it this way, but they want that to happen,” says Jeff Perera, a male feminist and healthy masculinity advocate in Toronto. ”

Will definitely start taking advice on how to be masculine from this guy.

Post: #289

I think I saw the word healthy.

***rereads***

Yeah, saw the word healthy.

Post: #290

(08-15-2015 09:36 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  Jesus. Reading this Vice article is hauntingly reminiscent of Atlas Shrugged.

Neither the media or these women have an ounce of integrity or self-awareness. There is no communicating logically with people like this.

Just 10 minutes ago, I was taking a shower and thinking about the fact that society is getting so damn close to what Rand described in Atlas Shrugged...braindead people, no more neutral media outlets, men's incentives to be productive and useful to society going down,...

Post: #291

(08-15-2015 12:23 AM)Last Parade Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 11:36 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  “I hate to put it this way, but they want that to happen,” says Jeff Perera, a male feminist and healthy masculinity advocate in Toronto. ”

Will definitely start taking advice on how to be masculine from this guy.

After years of research, I've come up with an incredible useful formulation for analysing personalities on social media, specifically those with a political message, called Ocelot's Law™, which states the following:

Quote:"Anyone claiming to represent anything with the word "healthy" in the title is, without exception, so unhealthy that they will be dead before they reach 45."

I mean just look at this tubby fuck. He looks like a bizzaro version of Carlton Banks who got fat and joined ISIS because he couldn't handle Will's success. I wonder if he teaches an alternative to Cocky-Funny?

Maybe he teaches guys how to be Creepy-Chubby?

Dude's probably going to cause a fire when they have to cremate him in five years time.

Post: #292

(08-15-2015 09:29 AM)rottenapple Wrote:  http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-rape-...vicenewsfb

VICE news on it as well now.

It's amazing how they can turn "nothing" into a rape horror story.