(08-10-2015 01:44 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  Prediction. One of these women is going to push it too far with a guy who lacks the self control or patience and is going to get knocked flat on her ass.

Regardless, it will only do harm to the movement, you know exactly how these people will sell it as to the media.

That speech that girl gave was horrendous, not well thought out and wasn't enthusiastic or emotional at all.

Dr. Helen links to Vox Day's posting:

http://pjmedia.com/drhelen/2015/08/09/ro.../#comments

(08-10-2015 02:03 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

(08-10-2015 01:44 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  Prediction. One of these women is going to push it too far with a guy who lacks the self control or patience and is going to get knocked flat on her ass.

Regardless, it will only do harm to the movement, you know exactly how these people will sell it as to the media.

That speech that girl gave was horrendous, not well thought out and wasn't enthusiastic or emotional at all.

Yes, I actually just came back in here to make it perfectly clear I don't recommend someone doing that, and then I saw your post. I imagine it will happen eventually, and I'm sure I'll get a good chuckle out of it, just as I always get a chuckle when someone trying to bully a person who is not in a position to fight back gets knocked flat on their ass. But I'm not advocating anyone lose their cool and return the violence if they can avoid it.

It will only end up bad for both the group and them on a personal level, as the law won't likely give them the velvet gloved fingers these femenazis get.

It has been nothing short of inspiring to watch the events of the past few days unfold.

My hat is off to everyone involved. Keep fighting the good fight.

(08-10-2015 02:17 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(08-10-2015 02:03 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

(08-10-2015 01:44 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  Prediction. One of these women is going to push it too far with a guy who lacks the self control or patience and is going to get knocked flat on her ass.

Regardless, it will only do harm to the movement, you know exactly how these people will sell it as to the media.

That speech that girl gave was horrendous, not well thought out and wasn't enthusiastic or emotional at all.

Yes, I actually just came back in here to make it perfectly clear I don't recommend someone doing that. I imagine it will happen eventually, and I'm sure I'll get a good chuckle out of it, but I'm not advocating anyone lose their cool and get violent back. It will only end up bad for both the group and them on a personal level as the law won't likely give them the velvet gloved fingers these femenazis get.

Every time they attack, he absorbs their energy into gaining more followers, exposure, and more leverage against them.

Men can control their emotions alot more then women, as you can tell from the video. Logic typically rules over emotions, as shown in that beer pouring video.

Don't lose your cool and remember the bigger picture.

Obviously there are certain situations where you should defend yourself.

(08-09-2015 02:37 PM)8ball Wrote:  

(08-09-2015 02:24 PM)Grodin Wrote:  I'm probably in the minority by saying this, but I don't really think theres a point in pursuing charges on those individuals. There are bigger goals ongoing here and those twats are small fish. Water finds it's own level, Roosh had to live with being a bit wet for 5 minutes but these people will be marginalized by their own mental issues for the remainder of their lives.

If Roosh doesn't press charges then this will happen again and again. The lesson they learn is: the law doesn't apply to us.

He should press charges cause we know the police won't do anything about it cause women get away with murder these days. An article about how the police didn't do shit (once again) needs to be published on ROK so people can see the bias towards men.

He can always use this as a weapon later on (no protection for men when feminists get physically abusive).

Looking back over this thread - I tell you what, if nothing else it has spawned some simply awesome gifs/memes...

(08-10-2015 12:36 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Feminist: "Yeah? Did you ask permission to film?"

Man recording: "It's a free country, we can film if we want to."

Feminist: "Yeah well if you have this attitude you don't belong here. Get the fuck away from us!"

(08-10-2015 02:55 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(08-10-2015 12:36 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Feminist: "Yeah? Did you ask permission to film?"

Man recording: "It's a free country, we can film if we want to."

Feminist: "Yeah well if you have this attitude you don't belong here. Get the fuck away from us!"

Radical SJWs hate freedom. How Orwellian.

(08-10-2015 02:55 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(08-10-2015 12:36 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Feminist: "Yeah? Did you ask permission to film?"

Man recording: "It's a free country, we can film if we want to."

Feminist: "Yeah well if you have this attitude you don't belong here. Get the fuck away from us!"

Freudian slip

noun: Freudian slip; plural noun: Freudian slips

an unintentional error regarded as revealing subconscious feelings.

(08-10-2015 02:58 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

(08-10-2015 02:55 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(08-10-2015 12:36 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

"It's a free country."

"Not here it isn't."

The entire event is badly done. A maladjusted student spouting feminist nonsense. They can be triggered by anything and anyone. It's really amazing that the media lets them talk, but at least the corporate talking heads are smart enough not to show the full craziness of their doctrine as they know that their viewers would laugh and brush them off as crazy. The TV producers know fully well that the entire feminist mantra is a mind-numbingly stupid religion. They know that they cannot let them talk about triggers, "safe spaces" etc.

Thus you will see edited interviews and only jeers on TV. In contrast Roosh's talk could be shown in entirety and most men would probably approve. That is the difference between reason and madness.

Thanks guys, just passing through - there's a lot of stuff grim going on my end - but this fuss had reached even me.

As for moral complexity:

You’ve all probably noticed the post-2008 retreat from encouraging an understanding of the adult complexities of the world from SJW’s / Feminists. There’s a shift in Academia towards protection from ideas and personal criticism: Safe Spaces; Trigger Words; Micro-aggressions; Rape Culture; right up to the absurdity of protesting a showing of American Sniper on a campus and replacing him with a showing of Paddington Bear.

Feminists require Useful Idiots unable to critically-think to question dogma, and, as such, it is in the interest of Academia to infantilise its female students to keep their moral reasoning in a simplified, childlike state. Children exposed to conflict are forced to self-reflect, develop a more complex understanding of social interactions, and create coping skills to deal with criticism and not getting their own way.

It greatly-empowers the movement if any of this is prevented from happening, because moral development is limited by one’s cognitive development, so follows behind. It’s possible to keep women in a childlike state, and it’s something we’ve all noticed, via the childlike interests; the shift into women needing the escapist power fantasies that were once the domain of teenage boys and immature adult men; the weird pre-sexual confusion as to the realities to human interaction and sexual intercourse; the clichéd desire of them all to be Young Adult Novelists and the general middle school reading level of their writing in general; and their fixation with scatological discourse, making their ‘shitlord / eat my cunt’ outbursts resemble teenage tough guys trying too hard.

This stupid comic – the artist actually thinks this makes her cool instead of desperately damaged – sums the mindset up.



There’s similar theories of Moral Development, but I’ll offer up this summation of Kohlberg’s Six Stage Theory, that’s divided into three tiers (Pre-Conventional, Conventional, Post-Conventional), as it’s easy to grasp:



The idea is a functioning moral adult should progress from the first – simple – stage to the sixth –complex - stage, though only about 15% of the population achieves a post-conventional morality – usually in their mid-30’s, though I'd reached it in my twenties through constant exposure to attempted religious indoctrination and attempted 1st and 2nd wave Feminist indoctrination.

Stages 1 and 2 are the Moral Constructs of Children, and are meant to be outgrown, though Narcissists can easily stop at Stage 2 – Self-Interest Driven. The less complex SJW types who doxx and dogpile have stopped here, the most famous example I've noticed being involved in Gamergate with her own set of similar-minded followers. Like tends to attract like.

However, in the interests of creating Social Justice Warriors to be furious agents of the desired change, Stage 3 must be reached – conform to the majority and thereby be a good person, whilst deliberately arresting advancement to Stage 4 where Social Authority would be respected, not challenged.

Basically, encourage the subject to remain in an early-teenage mindset – that awkward time where the conception dawns that your peers are judging you, which includes stopping them from developing the coping skills that would generate the emotional resilience to deal with social ostracisation and hardship. To that end, make them think they’re unreasonably-persecuted from an outside source – encourage a deep sense of inferiority - with the false hope that if said source is removed popularity is guaranteed, and encourage emotional hysteria as the correct reaction to minute challenges.

It is vitally-important to keep the subject free of any conflicting or challenging views, to sell the false belief that everyone in the wider world must think the same way as the subject.

With all this, you now have the perfect, obedient agent of social change, who won’t dare voice any previously-undictated dictated thought, due to threat of group exclusion, though the side effects will be obvious to a detached observer: an obvious fixation on trying to make oneself appear to have greater social capital via conspicuous consumption of the correct branded products (apple products, granny glasses, indie games); flitting from being emotionally-disengaged and ‘over’ everything to a full-on temper tantrum over not getting their own way; and an exaggerated, artificial presentation in general in a desperate attempt to appear more complex and interesting than they are, (stupid hair dyes, personal pronouns, tattoos, made up names).

They're trapped in Teen Angst and Teen Awkwardness forever. I can't think of a more hellish fate.

I can recognise Stage 3 stagnation by one other tell. You’re probably observed the transactional currency of the SJW’s by now, to the point it’s almost a cliché:

“You’re such a good person.”

Again and again, they bleat it at each other.

“You’re such a good person.”

They'll exaggerate stories and events to generate that phrase. How it must please them.

Now read the description of Stage 3 again.

Remember, they only look like adults, in which point, it’s no point getting angry in any confrontation with them, however provoked, simply treat them like the bratty little sisters they are. They’re incapable of adult understanding, adult sexuality, adult relationships, and – increasingly – adult jobs because they’re not complex entities – they’re children. (My last job had an off-the-books rule to not hire anyone under 35).

As such, I’m not convinced you can argue with them, because the early, simple stages of moral development are rigid by nature, and dependent on moral standards given by others. As such, they offer little of the uniqueness you get with more advanced moral codes – early moral stages are conformist by nature - which is why I laughed at that Nix girl calling everyone ‘sheep’. I was banging Goth Girls using that exact same terminology for those they thought beneath them since before she was born. Yawn. It’s fitting her moral reasoning is labelled as “Conventional” as it is “Conformist” by its very nature. Once again, “I’m not like the other girls”.

Anyway, knowing all this, what use is it? It makes infiltration simple by showing how to stay in character because none of them are stage six unique entities. Therefore: use the language of a young adult reading level; always keep the appearance of your morality simple; use a black and white point of view; alternate withering contempt and out-of-control hysteria with a sprinkling of scatology; remember to praise the other person; exaggerate offense grossly; overshare; and remember to use the language of liars trying to convince people they’re telling the truth: literally, actually, seriously, legitimately.

Remember, we can outlast the enemy, because the less complex moral stages are instable by their very nature: black and white moral views have zero universal appeal, and are therefore under great threat by any form of diversity, (either of opinion, or cultural diversity). More hilariously, they’re inconsistent by nature – resulting in a lot of ‘do as we say not as we do’ – and, as such, can’t be adjusted on the fly to any kind of complex realities, so they don’t recognise when they’re overstepping legal boundaries when situations escalate. Nudge them – however slightly - in the right direction, and document the evidence. Mostly likely, you won’t even have to nudge them, since their moral simplicity means they’re naturally-conflictive by nature.

My Stage 6 nature means I tend to naturally shrug off minor conflict in opinion – it’s impossible for them to do the same. Black and white. Either Or. It must be like living inside a tornado that was seeded by those who were supposed to be building you a storm cellar. Poor, poor things.

I still believe there's a possibility of physical violence down the track, but I'm not sure if they're that disassociated from reality yet, or if enough Female Incels have been cultivated by Academia. So, be wary, but don't overreact to minor threats in a way that offers them ammunition against you.

(08-09-2015 02:24 PM)Grodin Wrote:  The new video shows things a lot more clearly. The dudes who followed the group down the street are the type of bitches that only start shit when they have the numbers. Props to several guys for diffusing the situation and making the crowd back down.

I'm probably in the minority by saying this, but I don't really think theres a point in pursuing charges on those individuals. There are bigger goals ongoing here and those twats are small fish. Water finds it's own level, Roosh had to live with being a bit wet for 5 minutes but these people will be marginalized by their own mental issues for the remainder of their lives.

"They're too small for us to go after" said no SJW/leftist ever. They've been going after the smallest fish to the biggest one for years now. It's time for the piper to be paid.

(08-10-2015 12:36 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Look at the guy at 0:29 being harassed by that bitch - dressed well, well built and dominant body language.

Now compare that to almost every other guy in the video. What a stark difference.

This just happened.

Roosh retweeted the message below from professional "before"-column model Aurelie Nix. The theme will ring familiar to the forum.

   

I sent this innocuous reply to that tweet, clearing my name, and mild by comparison to her outright-criminal acts.

   

She replied with this uncreative, but unsurprising, response.

   

I pointed out her very insensitive choice of language.

   

Then this immediately after:

   

(08-09-2015 11:07 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(08-09-2015 10:54 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  I just realized where i've seen this "person" before..

I was thinking this:

Please don't go full anti-Quebec racist frogs and all.

Just remember, at least 35 men where there too ( I'm proud to say that I was one of them) and most of those SJW are just unemployed university student or cat ladies. No need top go on en economic rampage/racist trail here.
For the media, just remember they are there to change the fact all the time particularly when it is time for us to think about 'going our own way' if I can say..
You see, sometime the rest of Canada are the SJW/ media manipulator for us and our media take there side.

All this is just a good experience about how much we can trust our media in any country.

(08-09-2015 07:13 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  I genuinely feel bad for the female protestors. Theyve been led to believe their whole lives that both masculinity and femininity are illnesses. They try to cure themselves of any femininity by wearing a mask of tattoos and edgy style, but in the end they break themselves. They are the source of their unhappiness.

Watching any interviews is painful, they can't even think rationally or form coherent thoughts because they know everything they're saying is a spoon fed lie.

All they need is a masculine man to nurture their femininity and their depressive self loathing would be completely cured.

That's why Eastern women that have NORMAL family traits, if you look into the eyes of these women, most of them are sparking. A woman in the west that is brainwashed by feminism, their eyes are ALWAYS dark like the devil. Look deeper and you will always see pain in their eyes where due to atheism, they aren't in touch with themselves and what REAL happiness is!

Feminists aren't very smart cause they are so EASILY brainwashed by feminism!

(08-09-2015 07:16 PM)komatiite Wrote:  Man, this thread has 123000 views, could Roosh eclipse the Trump thread (125k) by days end? Roosh I advise you to strike while the iron is hot and run for President

He should continue to do more tours around Canada to rattle the cage some more!

Tickets will sell out like hot cakes now that he is hot in Canada!

A lot of the feminists' actions visible in the videos are the actions of pre-high school girls who are mean to the boys they like because they have not learned how to handle their emotions. Losses in Montreal and Toronto will probably be enough to make them go home and cry and/or throw tantrums, and the ways in which they act out knowing they won't get a chance to redeem themselves against Roosh will damage their cause just as much as another stop on the tour would. They are likely to retaliate against innocents if their perceived enemy is not around, because they get a sense of powerlessness whenever they have to hold the L. The operation is ultimately not about these feminists, but reaching the hearts and minds of people who sense the wrongness of Western society and who only need a little nudge to stop accepting the current direction of their world.

(08-09-2015 07:33 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  Wait a sec.

How is holding a girl by the waist in a bar akin to raping her?

Has the definition of rape changed that much by the femtards, libtards and leftards that nowadays, even talking to a girl in a social environment like that of a bar, is now rape?

Do these people know what real rape is?

If these SJWs really care about the REAL rape issue around the world, then they should turn their attention towards where actual barbaric rape actually happens, such as the tragic plight of innocent women being captured and sold off in markets as sex slaves by ISIS.

If you SJWs really care for the well being of women around the world, then stop being coward keyboard warriors and instead do something where it matters most, about actual rape, (in the historical sense of that awful word and not what you lunatic libtards/leftards/femtards have watered it down to nothing like holding a girl by the waist in a public environment such as a bar)!

Go personally to Africa, Libya, the middle east and other places around the world where that barbaric act of raping women is still being practiced. Go where it matters most if you really care about improving and empowering girls and women!

Of course we all know the answer as to where your allegiances are and what are your real motives.

(08-09-2015 06:39 PM)Troll King Wrote:  So manboobz commenters are now saying that Roosh got the beer thrown in his face because he was trying to rape the chick.

Roosh, I really think you should sue all of these people. I would donate to a legal fund, even though I am a bit poor right now. The fact that they are all going to such lengths to damage your reputation is actually incredible.

Here is an example of what they are saying on manboobz:

Quote:Bernardo Soares | August 9, 2015 at 2:01 pm


@SFHC:


he was planning to rape her after giving a speech about teaching other men to rape.

That’s why I disagree with those who say the beer throwing was a bad idea. He had already overstepped boundaries in touching her waist. He planned to rape her. If she had thrown a beer in his face when he touched her without being allowed, or later when he would have tried more, everyone would agree that it would have been self-defense. Had she told him to fuck off, he would have tried his shit on somebody else, who might not have known who he is.

The people who followed him and yelled at him were doing this spontaneously, and while it might seem too much, I would have joined them in that situation. This way, he and his buddies were forced to go back to the hotel and didn’t have an opportunity to leave the bar and try their predatory shit in another.

So congratulations, Montréal, for making him feel as unwelcome as possible.

David Futrelle (manboobz) has clearly NEVER touched a woman before if he thinks this is rape!

I don't think he has left his basement since he started his shitty website!

I pitty the loser cause no woman would ever talk to him in real life and his
"male hating" website is the only way he can feel some kind of love from a woman.

It's the same as in our beta days when we do anything to get the attention of a woman. The only difference is that we have grown into men now while David is still a fat ugly loser trying to seek motherly love!

His photo below!

(08-10-2015 01:03 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  

Just having some fun, hope this is ok. Top that GlobalMan

I want one!!

Rooshv, please add to
http://www.cafepress.com/uncleroosh

A coffee mug would be great too! It would put a smile on my face every morning!

"Consent!!"

"Yayy!

"Wooo!!"

"Consent!!"

How the fuck can these people figure out the bus schedules necessary to get to the protest?

(08-09-2015 12:23 PM)dudeabides Wrote:  

(08-09-2015 12:22 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  Thanks for doing this but somehow my browser setting got changed. Just a heads up and warning. I don't blame the OP, it is just something sendspace does.

Seriously? That's whack. I'm sorry. I've used sendspace quite a bit for free, large file transfers without an issue. I guess I need to cross them off the list. Maybe I can think of somewhere else to put the file... Grr.

mega.nz

from the founder of megaupload who got raided illegally by americans in NZ

he's back with a fully end-to-end encrypted file sharing website

There is already a Roosh mug my friend.

(08-13-2015 07:29 AM)mikado Wrote:  I cosign.

It means the starving artist

As they often should be.