Post: #1

So, I was googling something about men in love with two women, to try and find some non standard love stories about a guy who is in love with two women and how they "decide".

This link comes up:

http://www.davidmcelroy.org/?p=15639

It's about how a guy had a choice between two women and screws it up, having neither. Great read, though I'm not going to quote it. What I am going to quote is what people SAY in the comments about having to choose between two men. Some of this is stuff blue pill people would agree with, but seen through the red pill lens, I think it's quite interesting.

Quote:In my life I have learned that if you choose the person who doesn’t thrill you and make you glad to be alive, but instead choose stability, you’ve made the wrong choice. If you settle for stability alone, you marry at the peek of your romance and your feelings never grow into the intense romantic feelings that you have for the one who makes your heat beat faster.

A blue piller will just think that being attracted and in love is important. A red piller understands: chicks prefer the alpha fucks.

Quote:I’ve been on the other side of this. I was the girl waiting for the boy to decide to marry her. I was hurt and thought he must not really love me, so I started dating someone else and married him six months later on the rebound. My husband is a great guy and a wonderful provider, but marrying him was the worst mistake of my life. I’ll always be in love with the guy who I believe wishes he had married me, but I don’t have the courage to admit my mistake and upset everybody by getting a divorce.

Alpha widow

Quote:I am currently in this situation and I have been thinking deeply about which of the two women in my life. The first woman cheated with a friend of mine and in the hurt and betrayal the second woman came into my life. The first woman later came to apologize and explained what happened between her and my friend and I realized it wasnt entirely her fault. I accepted her back whilst keeping the second woman who was then in school. I have been seeing the first woman for close to four years and the second for three years. They both got to know about themselves and when they asked independently I denied being in a relationship with the other. The second has been respectful, she spice up my life, intelligent and brought up in a good home. The first is more suspicious and always afraid to loss me. She is supportive and stable but not exciting. My parents, siblings and neighbours knows of the first woman more than the second. Now i have realized I cant sit on the fence any longer. I want to be a man for one woman. I dont know what to do.

Never underestimate the power of guilt - it is one of the prime emotions that can beta-size a man. He knows which woman is right for him and who he prefers, but feels morally obligated (guilty) towards the woman that's wrong for him.

Quote:can you please tell me what to do? i have a 52 years old boyfriend who looks very young, very stable and above all loves me to death. we we’re together for more than 10 years and i am now at age 38. it took a while for his annulment papers to be approved.. i got tired of waiting and told myself maybe i should get involved with another man and leave him because i want to have a family of my own. i started dating this new guy which is 6 years younger than me without my boyfriend’s knowledge. my life became alive, because for the first time i feel that somebody really owns me and i own him. as time passed, i’ve learned to love him so much because we are so compatible inspite of our age differences. above all we are of the same religion. to speed up my story, the guy i was dating became my boyfriend without my supposed to be husband’s knowledge. after a month of being together with my new boyfriend,, annulment case was granted!! and my 52 year old boyfriend was devastated when he found out that i’m involved with another man..i felt so terrible.. because i still love him,, years of being together, he has been there for me through heaven and hell, he became my life.. the only thing that made me decided to have another relationship is that i thought i will never have the chance to marry him for i’ve waited soooo long, devoted my entire youth to him because i met him when i was in my early 20’s. he begged me to leave the guy ,he will convert to my religion for he believes in it and continue what we have started. i have to make a between a guy who’m i loved so much for a long time , wealthy, sincere and very kind to a younger man who loves me also to death but not yet ready to marry me though he really wanted to but ca not due to financial reasons.

This is one is interesting - this woman admits the guy has strung her along for over 15 years. Game recognized! However, he waited too long and ignored her biological clock. Now the woman gets a new guy, who isn't ready to marry her for financial reasons. Ha. Similar to the thread about black flag -/thread-35415.html - women are very strongly biologically hardwired. Beware.

Quote:I broke up with my bf of 4 years, but he still continued to hang around me, when I told him I was seeing an ex from 20 years ago, whom I broke up with 2x, he was devastated. So I tried it with him for the third time, and it has been hell, he is mean, lacks the ability to communicate when issues arise, but I have always been in love with him, but was growing tired again of his lack of communication, anger issues, disrespect, etc., I decided to break up with him again for the third time and pretty much for the same reason. The bf of 4 years treated me like a queen and I was in love with him, but over time I just wanted out of the relationship. He left to go to another city. While he was gone I started missing him like crazy and wanted him back in my life. I called him and told him I wanted him back, he said okay. I feel I made the right decision. I couldn’t wait for the other guy to grow up. It’s bee twenty years, and he still has not changed and i some ways gotten worse.

This is a great example of the thirst of betas. If a chick ditched you for her on again off again flame of twenty years, how important to her are you really? And again - clearly lack of game, self esteem etc.

There are loads more comments and very interesting for red pill guys to read and get a handle on. Most of the comments are female, not male. You can see lots of people just making bad choices.

Post: #2

I'm really starting to wonder what chicks mean when they say they "love" someone.

"The bf of 4 years treated me like a Queen and I was in love with him, but I wanted out of the relationship."

What do they mean when they say they are in love with someone? Do they lack self-awareness?

Lots more examples in your post of chicks saying they "love" the dude. But their behavior speaks otherwise. I really want to know what they mean when they say they love these dudes.

Are they lying to the public to make an impression?
Are they lying to themselves?

I really wonder what definition of love they are maintaining.

It sounds like they honestly believe they did love the dudes... But like every sentence is a contradiction.

"I loved him and he was good but I left him."
"He treats me like shit so I came back to him."

I wish there were more words in the English language to denote the subtypes of love, because just the one word is consistently too ambiguous.

Post: #3

I do think it's pretty fucked up to string a girl along for 10 years beginning in her early 20s. If she wants to settle down with you and you have no desire to do the same, just tell her so she can go be a mother and wife with someone else while she's still attractive.

Post: #4

(08-05-2015 05:24 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  I'm really starting to wonder what chicks mean when they say they "love" someone.

Love - what makes the Gina tingle. (Alpha)
Love - what is security and safe harbors (Beta)

Quote:What do they mean when they say they are in love with someone? Do they lack self-awareness?

Are they lying to the public to make an impression?
Are they lying to themselves?

They love the person they're with, comfort or fucks them really well, I believe there are 2 true definitions.

They also may LOVE the person but not be IN LOVE with the person.

Of course they're lying to themselves, they're hamster rationalization wheel is full blown.

Quote:"I loved him and he was good but I left him."
"He treats me like shit so I came back to him."

Treat a girl like shit, she'll stick to you like mud.

AKA Keep your game and your frame strong and she isn't going anywhere, if anything she's loving you even more.

Post: #5

(08-05-2015 01:12 PM)Only One Man Wrote:  I do think it's pretty fucked up to string a girl along for 10 years beginning in her early 20s. If she wants to settle down with you and you have no desire to do the same, just tell her so she can go be a mother and wife with someone else while she's still attractive.

I think this should be the #1 ethical principle of the game, even higher than "leave them better than you found them".