The United Kingdom really sucks?

(07-21-2011 12:07 PM)Gringo Wrote:  The attitude of most UK women is horrendous; bitchy, violent, loud, aggressive, masculine, abrupt, nasty etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.

Agreed.

I am completely skeptical about UK women. Some might even have pretty faces, but they have no curves at all. Specially to my eyes, used to viewing curvy pubecent brazilian teens at the beach.

What might be cool about the UK/London is meeting women from other parts of the globe. That is probably the best bet.

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'Amour Fou Wrote:Some might even have pretty faces, but they have no curves at all

I don't know what clubs you went to whilst here, but in the heart-of-London and elite nightclubs which focus on Rnb, Hiphop and Funky House music, there are ALWAYS curvy-type bombshells there. It's just that there attitude is ridiculousy sour and hold no substance.

They're usually the music-industry groupies who boast about travelling to Miami, NY, ATL and LA broke off their monthly or some other suckas wages, tweet every hour and get butt-implants to look like their sister-cousins in the states from Hiphop Candy music videos.

Quote:What might be cool about the UK/London is meeting women from other parts of the globe. That is probably the best bet.

This is correct, hugely cosmopolitan.

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London -

"I don't know what clubs you went to whilst here, but in the heart-of-London and elite nightclubs which focus on Rnb, Hiphop and Funky House music, there are ALWAYS curvy-type bombshells there."

Break down some of these clubs and which nights are best if you can.

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(07-21-2011 06:02 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  London -

"I don't know what clubs you went to whilst here, but in the heart-of-London and elite nightclubs which focus on Rnb, Hiphop and Funky House music, there are ALWAYS curvy-type bombshells there."

Break down some of these clubs and which nights are best if you can.

Funky Buddha

Best time: Saturdays

Opening Hours: 22:00 - 03:00

Location: 15 Berkeley Street, Mayfair,
London.

Entry: None, normal price (Table bookings from £500)

Type of venue: Expect a host of socialites, models and celebrities partying at this trendy night-time hotspot. Led by its sophisticated furnishings and upbeat music.

Music: Hiphop, RnB, Funky House, Groove and Soul

Typical Crowd:






My report: Come here, if you have a few bucks to splash around. This is considered 2nd or 3rd-tier elite nightclub in my book.

A 1st-tier elite nightclub would be a club the Prince and King of England go to, but they're snobbish and not Hiphip-or-culture orientated.

Pull Rate: 5/10 with advanced game. Advanced game? ...You're able to pull in most clubs, if not 3-4 times a month in your own environment and condition - Majority mixed groups, so if you're good at rolling into groups with guys and can befriend, normally able to pull, you're winning.



Club Runaway

Best time: Fridays & Saturdays

Opening Hours: 22:30 - 06:00

Location: 55 New Oxford Street, Bloomsbury, London, WC1A

Entry: Guestlist or membership

Type of venue: Runway is an on trend nightclub featuring a catwalk that runs from the entrance to the bar.

They offer both bar and table service and play the latest commercial house. Runway attracts a mixed crowd from footballers and models to pop stars.

Music: Hiphop, RnB, Funky House, House, Electro and Soul

Typical Crowd:







My report: Same as Funky Buddha. I've only been here to specific nights were they were hosting an event of some sort, I haven't been here during the weekends, though I've heard its still a major spot for hot women.

Pull Rate: 3/10, girls in here are looking for athletes, musicians and any old-rich guy who has more money-than-brains to spend drinks on them and pay for their £20 black taxis back home. Lots of mixed groups, couples and WAG's.

Again, if you have that rockstar-game, and have a clothing style and swag that preceeds you, by all means, come here and rock with the big boys.

I will continue and conclude a complete datasheet, for you boys on the coming week.

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(07-21-2011 12:07 PM)Gringo Wrote:  The attitude of most UK women is horrendous; bitchy, violent, loud, aggressive, masculine, abrupt, nasty etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.

Sounds like a typical white American woman.

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Are the pictures representative? I'm asking because they all seem to be "official" pictures, and no club would post a picture with ten dudes and two ugly fat girls, even if this is what usually happens in those clubs.

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(07-22-2011 03:26 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  Are the pictures representative? I'm asking because they all seem to be "official" pictures, and no club would post a picture with ten dudes and two ugly fat girls, even if this is what usually happens in those clubs.

Yes the pictures are representative of the "talent" that goes to those clubs. Funky Buddha is considered one of the better clubs in London, or at least in use to be. Believe it or not, these clubs have a strict door policy and you will have to be on a guest list or know someone to get in.

The girls seem a bit fat to me and not that attractive to say the least.

I cannot imagine anyone here on this forum packing there bags and going to visit London. I lived there and trust me the UK sucks.

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You can do way better than what you see on those pics in London.

I'm not saying it's great, it may be among the worst places in Europe for girls, but it can be a damn sight better than that. Funky Buddha has long descended into one of the lower tiers of the 'bottles and models' segment of London nightlife.

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I am going to jump back into this thread and make a couple of points.

- If you notice, most of the "UK sucks", and "the girls are ugly and have really bad attitudes" comments are made by guys from the UK, or those who spent a significant amount of time there and left.

- The UK has a lot of fatties, and ugly drunks, as has been demonstrated here over and over again.

However,

- The UK and London in particular has a lot of stunners, and above average women that most guys on here would love to get with. Besides the local women, it is crawling with hot women from all over the world.
- British women are easier and more open to ONS than any other English speaking culture.
- If you have something different to offer than the British guys, example an American or Canadian accent, French, Spanish, Italian background etc. you will have an easy time gaming the hottest women. Much easier than the local UK guys.

So, while the 'UK sucks" comments might be somewhat valid, they might not necessarily apply to you.

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Agree that london can suck if u don't have money. All good clubs charge guys 20 quid to get in. Girls get in for free before 23ish so early on clubs are full of girls and hardly any guys. The ratio starts reversing past midnight. Drinks are expensive 6 quid beer and 12-22 mixers. Funky buddha is not top tier place but good if you like chinese and middle-eastern girls. Amongst top places are whisky mist (p diddy was partying there 2 weeks ago), maddox, cuckoo club, jalouse, china white, amika, boujis, kensington roof gardens. You need to always be on guestlist or come with a promotor. It makes sense to become friends with a promotor so you have no problem to get in and get some free drinks at their table where all the hotties congregate. If you arrive in all male group you are almost guaranteed not to be let in. Enjoy london nitelife. I will next weekend when I am back[/quote]

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(07-22-2011 03:26 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  Are the pictures representative? I'm asking because they all seem to be "official" pictures, and no club would post a picture with ten dudes and two ugly fat girls, even if this is what usually happens in those clubs.

The more north you go the better the very hot girls get, but the overall proportion lowers. so brum nightclubs for example would have during term time, and where you went maybe 10 solid 8's and 1 or 2 9's but like a bjillion uglies. the more north you go the more stark the contrast between the attractives and non attractives are.

generally from what ive heard nottingham seems to be a great place for tail

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As a previous poster mentioned, outside of London, the talent and swag is so lacking that you will get 7 and a 8 acting like a 3 (meaning she is easy to swoop and close).

They DO get easier the further from London you get and having a Canadian/American accent might get you further if you add in swag.

I know a guy from Brooklyn when I was there who slayed a flat full of Spaniards and was hitting lizards from the left to the right.
However, I think this guy had game and would have probably done equivalent damage in Brooklyn.

But would I recommend UK for guys who are coming and want to fcuk a lot in the space of a week? I wouldn't recommend London and I can't really speak for any city other than London.

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This idea that outside of London girls who are considered '8s' are easy to get with I don't think is true. I live in a shitty small city in Scotland and even the ugly / fat girls here (most of them) are bitchy as fuck, full of attitude, think they are above everyone not to mention being aggressive, lairy, masculine, rude etc. These girls are far from being in the top tier of good looking girls so where people are finding really good looking girls who are easy I don't know.

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(07-22-2011 03:34 PM)Gringo Wrote:  This idea that outside of London girls who are considered '8s' are easy to get with I don't think is true. I live in a shitty small city in Scotland and even the ugly / fat girls here (most of them) are bitchy as fuck, full of attitude, think they are above everyone not to mention being aggressive, lairy, masculine, rude etc. These girls are far from being in the top tier of good looking girls so where people are finding really good looking girls who are easy I don't know.

Maybe if you put on a Yank accent they might sweeten up, nae?

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(07-22-2011 10:00 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  I am going to jump back into this thread and make a couple of points.

- If you notice, most of the "UK sucks", and "the girls are ugly and have really bad attitudes" comments are made by guys from the UK, or those who spent a significant amount of time there and left.

- The UK has a lot of fatties, and ugly drunks, as has been demonstrated here over and over again.

However,

- The UK and London in particular has a lot of stunners, and above average women that most guys on here would love to get with. Besides the local women, it is crawling with hot women from all over the world.
- British women are easier and more open to ONS than any other English speaking culture.
- If you have something different to offer than the British guys, example an American or Canadian accent, French, Spanish, Italian background etc. you will have an easy time gaming the hottest women. Much easier than the local UK guys.

So, while the 'UK sucks" comments might be somewhat valid, they might not necessarily apply to you.

I would not say they have alot of stunners, you sure they were not girls passing through the place? I do agree some english girls can be cute/attractive but I found social circle was big there and they actually preferred dating english men. I am talking about the nicer looking girls that I was more interested in.

My Canadian accent got me noticed and maybe through a few doors but it did not land me a hottie.

In terms of ONS yes they are probably the easiest girls in the world and even easier when you catch them on holiday. Sluts sort of turn me off though and I am not into girls that are collecting flags or numbers.

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(07-22-2011 08:26 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Yes the pictures are representative of the "talent" that goes to those clubs. Funky Buddha is considered one of the better clubs in London, or at least in use to be. Believe it or not, these clubs have a strict door policy and you will have to be on a guest list or know someone to get in.

I should probably clarify as my question was more about the ratio than "talent". The last pic, for example, has eight girls and two dudes. One above it, one dude with three girls. Is it really the case?

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The girls seem a bit fat to me and not that attractive to say the least.

Indeed. Which begs another question - after all, they were chosen for a model shot to be put on a club's web site, so I guess they at least tried to choose the best looking ones. If this is the case, this is not impressive at all.

Quote:I cannot imagine anyone here on this forum packing there bags and going to visit London. I lived there and trust me the UK sucks.

Not for the girls for sure.

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(07-19-2011 09:47 PM)London_Hunk Wrote:  ^^ Those birds are from Newcastle (Where Geordie-Shore was filmed), and they're not even the 6's. They're like 3's and venture to the less lush nightclubs there.

3?????? 3 is like an average white or Indian Bay Area chick.

There is no way for any of those mutants to have a positive score. I was thinking about storing that picture and show it to my son when he goes to school, and say that if he doesn't study well, I'll send him to study in London and that's what gonna surround him. But then I though it is cruel - anyone who showed a picture like that to a teenager should be charged with child abuse.

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(07-23-2011 02:44 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(07-19-2011 09:47 PM)London_Hunk Wrote:  ^^ Those birds are from Newcastle (Where Geordie-Shore was filmed), and they're not even the 6's. They're like 3's and venture to the less lush nightclubs there.

3?????? 3 is like an average white or Indian Bay Area chick.

There is no way for any of those mutants to have a positive score. I was thinking about storing that picture and show it to my son when he goes to school, and say that if he doesn't study well, I'll send him to study in London and that's what gonna surround him. But then I though it is cruel - anyone who showed a picture like that to a teenager should be charged with child abuse.

OK Guv'na.

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Upper middle class to upper class women in London are some the cutest and most elegant on this planet. Guys who rail on English chics are being forced to choose from the bottom %60, which are indeed horrendous. Same thing in America. You will not find hotter women than upper middle class white girls in Manhattan if you travelled to a hundred Ukraines, Colombias, Brazils, or Poland. Those countries simply cannot compete. But you will also never see as many fatties and uglos in all the Ukraines, Colombias, etc, as you will see in many American cities.

Beauty distribution is different in different countries. A typical rule of thumb Ive been developing is that in many poor countries, the bottom 60% will be much hotter - slimmer, better dressed, and more feminine - than the comparable population slice in rich countries, but the top 40% in rich countries will be SIGNIFICANTLY hotter than the comparable percentile slice in poor countries.

If a guy is used to pulling from the bottom 60% of women in, say, England or America, and then goes to a place like Ukraine or Thailand or Poland, his will rave about how hot the women are. If a guy is pulling from the top 40%, he will find even the best looking women in the Ukraine or Thailand distinctly unimpressive.

I find this an extremely useful tool to use in determining the credibility of reports about specific countries - has he been to poor countries? Did he find it *pussy heaven*? Did he think the girls were so much hotter than the USA or England? Does he think girls in the US or comparable countries are *pigs* and *unfeminine*? A guys perception of the beauty of a countries population is a direct reflection of the beauty level of the pool of girls he is able to get.

I firmly believe this accounts for the wildly different reports you hear about different countries.

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I disagree with many things on here. I find english girls to be extremely friendly comparing to other nations in Europe, plus english girls have a good sense of humour and if your game is tight and you visit the right city you will fuck a lot.

London is one of the baddest city in the world to game, the quality of girls is not that great, although you will see some bad chicks but the stress you go through in order to fuck them is not worth it. So when you eliminate London from your list and you go visit other cities in the UK, thats when you get extremely easy girls, i still havent visit the nordic countries but i cant think of any european women that can be easier than the english women that lives outside of London.

The UK is really good during summer , London has so many events during that time that it can be worth a visit.

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(07-19-2011 09:31 PM)London_Hunk Wrote:  Moma is misinformed on other parts of the UK.

I would recommend going outside London to anyone who is looking for relationships and women.

Bristol, Reading, Leeds, Slough, Newcastle, Hertfordshire, Watford, Cardiff (Wales), Nottingham and Huddersfield to name a few.

They're all light-years behind in terms of the sophistication of London. These towns and unitary authorities are like NJ, as apose to London being NYC - You can still find hot women out there, but not as much as a hassle to pull in larger cities if you get my drift. You don't pay cover charge for the majority of the clubs out there, the booze or beer is much cheaper, as London's elite clubs and mst frequented venues, you're looking at £4.50-5.00 a beer - Thats about $6-8 USD. Outside of these London venues, drinks are from £2.50 which is about $3 USD.

Don't waste your money in London. You will be rejected by managers and doorstaff, if you havent come in with a bunch-of-women by 11PM. Most clubs open around 9PM and finish by 3AM. Some clubs go on till 4AM, latest. These are the clubs were the ''Hot 10's'' are (Penthouse, Funky Buddha, Faces etc).

Americans are NOT loved nor entirely liked here, I don't know where another poster said you will get browny-points for having an accent, but don't come here thinking you will. I recently saw a group of Abercrombie-esque-all-American lads get humiliated by some girls in West End's Bar Rumba and got CRUSHED, verbally crushed.

Aussie-men/women and SA's are more tolerated than US residents here. I have no clue why. Maybe because of similiar sports/culture.

If you're going to go to London, go to Lounge-Bars and Open-Bars which are FREE or £5 cover charge before a specified time. They're much much much more consistant in fun, pulling and booze and much easier on the wallet.

Unless you have boss-paper to travel via black-cab which starts at £10 and have an apartment/flat inside Central London's hotspots, goodluck pulling hotties back from any of those Central London clubs.

Sorry but most of that post is wrong.

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(07-24-2011 01:23 AM)georgec Wrote:  Upper middle class to upper class women in London are some the cutest and most elegant on this planet. Guys who rail on English chics are being forced to choose from the bottom %60, which are indeed horrendous. Same thing in America. You will not find hotter women than upper middle class white girls in Manhattan if you travelled to a hundred Ukraines, Colombias, Brazils, or Poland. Those countries simply cannot compete. But you will also never see as many fatties and uglos in all the Ukraines, Colombias, etc, as you will see in many American cities.

Beauty distribution is different in different countries. A typical rule of thumb Ive been developing is that in many poor countries, the bottom 60% will be much hotter - slimmer, better dressed, and more feminine - than the comparable population slice in rich countries, but the top 40% in rich countries will be SIGNIFICANTLY hotter than the comparable percentile slice in poor countries.

If a guy is used to pulling from the bottom 60% of women in, say, England or America, and then goes to a place like Ukraine or Thailand or Poland, his will rave about how hot the women are. If a guy is pulling from the top 40%, he will find even the best looking women in the Ukraine or Thailand distinctly unimpressive.

I find this an extremely useful tool to use in determining the credibility of reports about specific countries - has he been to poor countries? Did he find it *pussy heaven*? Did he think the girls were so much hotter than the USA or England? Does he think girls in the US or comparable countries are *pigs* and *unfeminine*? A guys perception of the beauty of a countries population is a direct reflection of the beauty level of the pool of girls he is able to get.

I firmly believe this accounts for the wildly different reports you hear about different countries.

Thunderous applause!!!

I could not get past the bottom 60% of girls in London, which as you rightly said are not spectacular. So I ventured to the mainland Europe on a regular basis and was able to pull much higher quality.

I am also a sucker for a posh upper middle class english girl in a summer dress and nice heels. I was actually living in Primrose Hill/Camden area for a bit and the local pubs/bars catered to that clientele, but I was pretty much invisible to them.

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(07-24-2011 06:40 AM)billy Wrote:  

(07-19-2011 09:31 PM)London_Hunk Wrote:  Moma is misinformed on other parts of the UK.

I would recommend going outside London to anyone who is looking for relationships and women.

Bristol, Reading, Leeds, Slough, Newcastle, Hertfordshire, Watford, Cardiff (Wales), Nottingham and Huddersfield to name a few.

They're all light-years behind in terms of the sophistication of London. These towns and unitary authorities are like NJ, as apose to London being NYC - You can still find hot women out there, but not as much as a hassle to pull in larger cities if you get my drift. You don't pay cover charge for the majority of the clubs out there, the booze or beer is much cheaper, as London's elite clubs and mst frequented venues, you're looking at £4.50-5.00 a beer - Thats about $6-8 USD. Outside of these London venues, drinks are from £2.50 which is about $3 USD.

Don't waste your money in London. You will be rejected by managers and doorstaff, if you havent come in with a bunch-of-women by 11PM. Most clubs open around 9PM and finish by 3AM. Some clubs go on till 4AM, latest. These are the clubs were the ''Hot 10's'' are (Penthouse, Funky Buddha, Faces etc).

Americans are NOT loved nor entirely liked here, I don't know where another poster said you will get browny-points for having an accent, but don't come here thinking you will. I recently saw a group of Abercrombie-esque-all-American lads get humiliated by some girls in West End's Bar Rumba and got CRUSHED, verbally crushed.

Aussie-men/women and SA's are more tolerated than US residents here. I have no clue why. Maybe because of similiar sports/culture.

If you're going to go to London, go to Lounge-Bars and Open-Bars which are FREE or £5 cover charge before a specified time. They're much much much more consistant in fun, pulling and booze and much easier on the wallet.

Unless you have boss-paper to travel via black-cab which starts at £10 and have an apartment/flat inside Central London's hotspots, goodluck pulling hotties back from any of those Central London clubs.

Sorry but most of that post is wrong.

OK.

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(07-24-2011 01:23 AM)georgec Wrote:  You will not find hotter women than upper middle class white girls in Manhattan if you travelled to a hundred Ukraines, Colombias, Brazils, or Poland.

Just wonder if you are comparing upper middle class girls in Manhattan with upper middle class girls in Brazil, Ukraine, Colombia?

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(07-24-2011 07:25 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(07-24-2011 01:23 AM)georgec Wrote:  You will not find hotter women than upper middle class white girls in Manhattan if you travelled to a hundred Ukraines, Colombias, Brazils, or Poland.

Just wonder if you are comparing upper middle class girls in Manhattan with upper middle class girls in Brazil, Ukraine, Colombia?

Yes.

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