Post: #26

Did you vote for bernie or something? Because that's proven to shrink your dick by roughly 2".

If she needs these orgasms, can you tease her a little more by withholding the really good lovin' till she begs for it?

Post: #27

(07-06-2015 05:21 PM)Sonoma Wrote:  Great if shes a hook up, relatively unacceptable for a girl youre in a relationship with

Agreed.

What's happening here is she's more concerned with her orgasm than yours.

Next she'll want to focus on positions that allow her to grind her clit on you, but they don't allow the pounding away that you prefer.

Then her hand will be too busy stimulating herself to give blowjobs the two-handed jerk.

Soon enough, she'll always need her hands free to rub her clit to get full pleasure out of sex, which rules out several positions, handcuffs etc.

Unless you really get off on seeing her rub her clit, then her doing this is a zero-sum game.

Post: #28

There is nothing better than having your dong rhythmically clamped during her orgasm. Usually this will set me off, as well. If she needs to participate to make this happen, so be it, as far as I am concerned. (I do not have the upper body strength to both do one-handed pushups and try to get her off manually at the same time.)
OTOH, this sheet flooding is unknown terrain to me. But if it makes her want to fuck more often, I don't see the problem, once you lay in a supply of rubber mattress covers.

Post: #29

I've got a girl who does this a lot of the time in prone position face down while I'm banging. She'd said early on that it wasn't usual for her to come that way, but now she does often. Problem is sometimes I feel like taking a break but I don't want to stop cause it sounds like she's getting close and there's momentum going. I don't like the pressure, but it's really in my head as I couldn't imagine her ever being bitchy if I decided to stop and take a break.

Post: #30

Let her do it. It's extremely common and no big deal. She's helping you out. If any guy says that this doesn't ever occur to him (her hitting her clit during sex), he's either not banging or bullshitting.

If you make a thing out of it, she's not going to get off. If she doesn't get off, then she's going to eventually leave you. Some girls need their clit stimulated in a manner that is impossible for a guy to accomplish all of the time while fucking. In fact, it's a lot of extra work. Fuck it, and let her do it. You'll see porn girls doing this too. Do you think that the porn actors pride is hurt?

If it's a vibrator, then so what. It's still less work for you.

It's either your misplaced pride or pussy. Take your pick.

Post: #31

Honestly, who fucking cares. If she's knows how to get her rocks off, then let her be as long as its mutually beneficial.

Post: #32

I don't care.

Post: #33

surprise her with a brand new magic wand and shes yours forever

Post: #34

I personally find it annoying

Post: #35

Good responses to consider guys. Overall I'm not gonna blow it out of proportion. I guess that the angle I was hinting at is this: is this a possible clue that she could secretly be a nymphomaniac (thus putting her fidelity into question)? I only say this because she already comes regularly but seems to want (even expect) more and more orgasms.

Post: #36

Here's the update. The toys are out of the picture, since I've been making her come HARD over the past couple of months. "I don't need toys, I've got MMM." However, she'll occasionally rub her clit while I'm doing her and I don't mind, less work for me.

Post: #37

One of the hottest girls I've ever landed used to finger her own asshole. She would lick her own fingers repeatedly then reinsert them into her rectum.

I found this extremely odd.

Aloha!

Post: #38

Most of my lays recently have been with chicks in their late 20s and early 30s, and in that demographic at least it appears to pretty much be the norm. Both of the girls I'm seeing right now are in that demographic and neither can get off without a lot of direct clit stimulation/vibrator work.

Are they nymphos? Have they taken a fair amount of cock in their lives? Who knows. We're having fun anyway and I'm not gonna be marrying them so...

I think you're just going to stress yourself out, jumping at shadows worrying if every little thing is a sign that a girl who is finally just a plate is an indicator she isn't some paragon of virtue. Having quick sex with girls who are okay with "casual" relationships and then trying to box them into some Madonna ideal is kind of at cross purposes.

Post: #39

OP, I'd be more concerned if she was sticking that hunk of plastic in her ass. It'd mean she's been double teamed before or it's something she's fantasized about. Not a girl I'd want to fuck with.

Post: #40

To revisit encouraging this. One move I have is when a girl is riding me I grab her hand and place her fingers on her clit.

Often they start out a bit skeptical and forced, seeming unsure. If they stop, rub it for them a while, and then put their fingers there again.

Once they finally let loose and actually enjoy it, the difference in their presence is tangible. You can see on their face when it becomes not just about doing what you want but about getting themselves off, and the experience completely transforms at this point. I assure you the sex gets a lot better for both of you then.

Not the only way I do it but that's a main one.

Might as well accept that women are sexual creatures too. The more you get them to enjoy themselves the better.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #41

I think needing to orgasm is a negative sign if you're intending to start a long-term relationship with her… although, if she's using sex toys then she's probably highly promiscuous and you already know that and you shouldn't be trying to start a long-term relationship with such a girl in the first place!

So, here's why it's bad…

Guys should really take sex-ed seriously - learn up on anatomy, and also sex statistics to find out what's average.

So, why do girls rub their clit in the first place? Because the clitoris is the female version of the penis. This is important to understand - the vagina is not the penis; the vagina (and womb) is the female version of the balls. Males and females are essentially made of the same parts, see, but the parts are shaped differently during fetal development. So, when you're fucking a girl's vagina it's like sucking a man's balls - it cannot really lead to orgasm. Some women can and do orgasm from vaginal sex alone, but statistically most women do not orgasm from vaginal sex alone… yet they still find it satisfying.

The thing is, a female orgasm does not contribute to conception of a baby in any way. In fact, biologists are still struggling to discover why females can orgasm at all. There's some evidence that a female orgasm very slightly increases the likeliness of conception due to creating an up-suction that helps with sperm retention, but most likely the female orgasm is an evolutionary by-product of the development of the male orgasm (in the same way men have nipples that they don't need).

In any case, females aren't evolved to require orgasms for essential reproductive purposes, and how satisfying the sex is to a female should have less to do with whether or not she orgasms and more to do with whether she's satisfied with the mate who's fucking her. That is, if she's truly interested in you as a person, then sex should be satisfying for her even if she doesn't orgasm at all… and I don't mean just a little bit satisfying, like, "I suppose that'll do" - if she wants to have your children then she will be really satisfied, like, "you're the only man I'll ever want or need". What's important for a committed female is to just be fucked hard by a virile man who plainly loves her and can provide for her children.

If a girl is insisting on having orgasms then it's a sign that she's completely lost the long-term relationship track and doesn't give a fuck for you at all. She's in it for herself. She wants your money, your attention, and a quick hit of pleasure. That doesn't mean she cannot be rehabilitated if you're too desperate a guy to give her up, but I wouldn't bother… I wouldn't be with her to begin with. The road to rehabilitation is probably trying to isolate her from her sluttiness culture and encourage pair-bonding themes instead.

I think if you're just getting with a girl, though, and you want to test whether she's interested in you or just using you for money and pleasure, then fuck her in the ass. If she doesn't seem too disconcerted by the (repeated) ordeal, she's a keeper! Of course you should be unloading your bank account on her at the same time to demonstrate you can be a provider for her kids, but, yeah, she should be satisfied with one-sided sex.

Post: #42

(05-06-2016 07:31 AM)Little Bo Peep Wrote:  In any case, females aren't evolved to require orgasms
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If you don't think being able to make a girl orgasm regularly during sex with her is important in a relationship I'd bet good money you've been cheated on in every long-term relationship you've been in.

I don't give much of a shit about one night stand girls, but its a fairly integral part of any long-term sexual relationship being able to get each other off. It makes the sex much better for everyone involved.

Post: #43

(05-06-2016 06:42 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  To revisit encouraging this. One move I have is when a girl is riding me I grab her hand and place her fingers on her clit.

Often they start out a bit skeptical and forced, seeming unsure. If they stop, rub it for them a while, and then put their fingers there again.

Once they finally let loose and actually enjoy it, the difference in their presence is tangible. You can see on their face when it becomes not just about doing what you want but about getting themselves off, and the experience completely transforms at this point. I assure you the sex gets a lot better for both of you then.

Not the only way I do it but that's a main one.

Might as well accept that women are sexual creatures too. The more you get them to enjoy themselves the better.

This sounds like a great solution for guys who are offended by this. If you are the one to suggest it (nonverbally), then it isn't like she is saying that your dick isn't enough for her, she is only doing what you have instructed. And then, if she declines to keep doing it, you are still happy.

Post: #44

(05-04-2016 04:30 PM)Kona Wrote:  One of the hottest girls I've ever landed used to finger her own asshole. She would lick her own fingers repeatedly then reinsert them into her rectum.

I found this extremely odd.

Aloha!

One of my exes used to do this!

I personally find it hot. The dirty and more open to it a girl is the better.

Nothing wrong with a girl enjoying herself in whichever way makes her cum.

Don't get some of the ideas expressed by some of the posters.

Some girls have never experienced vaginal orgasms, and seem incapable of it. Another ex used to stimulate her clit during sex only to cum and she was so into me, it was heartbreaking to end it with her.

Post: #45

The presumption is that all chicks are capable of vaginal orgasms, this is simply not true. I'm older and am just south of a 3 digit N. I have had partners that simply cannot come from vaginal penetration alone - no matter the amount of foreplay etc. I've had those who thought that they were unable to come given previous experiences and then end up being an orgasm machine with me - some turned into squirters etc. Some already could and do, it runs the gamut.

I'd say that if you can make 95% of your partners have rip-roaring orgasms, multiples etc. you're fine and it's her thats got her wires crossed. All too often I've found it has to do with confidence or body image issues. If you make her feel safe and beautiful and wanted she stands a chance to cut loose with you - you need to create the "zone" for her.

I'm in my 40's and have had my share of much younger gals, and frankly the millennial chicks are all kinds of fucked up often, it's like its a performance, they think they need to behave like porn stars - I think this detracts from everyone's experience. I can only imagine this is the case with young men too - meaning how they behave with their partners.

Anyway the senile musings of an older guy...

Post: #46

If Little Bo Peep was banned for that spiel of verbal diarrhea it would to my mind seem completely justified.

I think the influence of porn on it is overestimated. I guarantee girls have been doing "porn star" stuff and having screaming orgasms long before the invention of the camera.

Post: #47

Reminds me of this...




"Women have two types of orgasms, the actual ones and the ones they make up on their own.

And I can give you the male perspective on this, which is, we're fine with it.

You do whatever the hell it is you gotta do."

Post: #48

(05-09-2016 12:15 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:  If Little Bo Peep was banned for that spiel of verbal diarrhea it would to my mind seem completely justified.

My first impulse upon reading that post was wanting to ask the guy when he'd last even been laid. I decided to keep my mouth shut but bullshit meter was on high alert.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #49

I've had girls do this and i could care less, the problem is though that they tend to be super super slutty. Never had a "normal" girl do this, but this one chick in particular always did this..I wouldn't wife them up or get into serious relationship..

(07-12-2015 10:54 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  David Shade, sex guru, would say this is a big red flag.

According to him, girls that have become dependent on external or clit stimulation to orgasm have mental blocks.

He would say to next her and find a girl who is highly vaginally orgasmic. A girl you can fuck and make cum with your dick/dirty talking/bedroom dominance.

There is a way to fuck a girl missionary and stimulate her clit with your pelvis, if you can imagine that. It's kind of a wave-like motion.

Anyway. I would use the concept of anchoring with her cumming to your voice. My last girlfriend would cum almost instantly when I was fucking her/rubbing her clit when I would tell her to "cum like a good girl."

Post: #50

(05-04-2016 11:31 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  Let her do it. It's extremely common and no big deal. She's helping you out. If any guy says that this doesn't ever occur to him (her hitting her clit during sex), he's either not banging or bullshitting.

It's the norm for girls I fuck to not ever rub their clits unless I tell them to.

No bullshit, I can't even think of one example where a girl did it unprompted.

It always seems strange to me when girls in porn do it and do it a whole lot.