Post: #1

After reading some of Roosh's accounts on women from the various countries he has visited, I've noticed some significant cognitive dissonance within him. Roosh has stated many times his disdain for women from the USA and the UK, which are the two most hyper capitalist economies on Earth. Roosh has also stated many times his disdain for socialism, yet he finds the women in the more socialist countries, (especially the Soviet Bloc) the most desirable. Furthermore, if I'm not mistaken, he now resides in the Soviet Bloc. Perhaps Roosh, or someone else can explain this apparent contradiction and make some sense of it.

Also, I know that in the USA, feminism generally aligns itself with the political left, but the political right (conservatives) is as bad as it gets when it comes to white knight behavior. So while I do recognize that feminism has infiltrated the political left (at this point it's mostly an online problem but I fear it could spread beyond), one can not consider modern feminists to be socialists. Socialism is one branch of the political left which I believe harbors the most masculine component in politics generally: unions. Unions are composed of workers who don't just bow their heads down to whatever their corporate overlords demand of them. They stand up for themselves, and other workers as well. There isn't anything more masculine than that. In fact, feminism and capitalism seem to go hand in hand.

Post: #2

(07-06-2015 02:16 PM)DetroitGame Wrote:  Roosh has also stated many times his disdain for socialism, yet he finds the women in the more socialist countries, (especially the Soviet Bloc) the most desirable.

You're mixing up politics and pussy. You can't fuck a political ideal but you can fuck this:

Post: #3

Quote:Roosh has stated many times his disdain for women from the USA and the UK, which are the two most hyper capitalist economies on Earth.

Please explain how Central Banks, buying their own bonds to artificially suppress interest rates, is capitalistic? I'll start here.

Post: #4

(07-06-2015 02:16 PM)DetroitGame Wrote:  So while I do recognize that feminism has infiltrated the political left (at this point it's mostly an online problem but I fear it could spread beyond),

There's a multiple things incorrect in your post but this one sticks out the most. You have to be kidding with it just being online.

The entire culture in the west has been feminized, and in the U.S. this has been the case since the late 80's, with the mid 90's being probably the worst of it, because men had no outlet and couldn't come together and "unplug" from it like now. The online people you're referring to are just the retarded, pierced, tattoo'd, blue haired fat face of it. Feminism isn't just the mentally disabled SJW's, its all around you, its the suppression and shaming of masculinity that can be seen and experienced at every turn if you have your eyes open, but its so normal to you that you don't even realize it.

The feminization of western culture is well and truly established and has been for 25+ years.

And to answer your question- Correlation does not equal causation. You might as well have said "English language and Feminism", because both the UK and US speak English.

The connection is Liberal Progressivism/Leftism and Feminism. Countries like Sweden, Denmark, Spain etc are socialist countries, but they have some of the strongest feminist societies in the world, arguably more so than the US and UK.

Places like Poland are desirable because they still have a (diminishing) sense of traditional values, its not because a socialist economy.

(07-06-2015 02:16 PM)DetroitGame Wrote:  feminism generally aligns itself with the political left, but the political right (conservatives) is as bad as it gets when it comes to white knight behavior

I don't even.....

Its pretty clear you're a leftist trying to disassociate your political beliefs from their direct connection to feminism, and attach it to the political right, by using some absurd logic.

Post: #5

False dichotomy. Just because Roosh doesn't support Socialism does not mean he supports unbridled Capitalism either.

The world isn't merely Socialism vs. Capitalism. Things a way more nuanced than that.

Also, the socialist countries that produced beautiful women weren't actually very socialist. Women couldn't get knocked up by a bad boy and then have the state raise the child. That never happened in Russia, Poland, Ukraine, etc.

Post: #6

(07-06-2015 04:47 PM)Samseau Wrote:  False dichotomy. Just because Roosh doesn't support Socialism does not mean he supports unbridled Capitalism either.

The world isn't merely Socialism vs. Capitalism. Things a way more nuanced than that.

Also, the socialist countries that produced beautiful women weren't actually very socialist. Women couldn't get knocked up by a bad boy and then have the state raise the child. That never happened in Russia, Poland, Ukraine, etc.

But in the USSR women could get knocked up by a "bad boy" and get an abortion.

Here's some quotes from the Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Russia

Quote:The Soviet government was the first government in Europe to legalize abortion. In October 1920 the Bolsheviks made abortion legal within the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic their “Decree on Women’s Healthcare.

Quote:The Soviet Union became the first country to have abortion available, on request, often for no cost

Quote:The enormous rate of abortions being performed also caused many doctors to become concerned and restrictions started being passed to limit abortion after the third month of pregnancy and to ensure that priority was given only to women deemed too poor, single, or who already had several children

Quote:In 1936 the Soviet Union made abortion illegal again, stemming largely from Joseph Stalin’s worries about population growth. This decree provoked widespread resentment and opposition, with urban women arguing that it was often impossible to have a child when they were trying to further their careers (as the Soviet state actively promoted female education and work placement)

Quote:After Stalin’s death in 1953, the Soviet government revoked the unpopular 1936 laws and issued a new law on abortion.During the late 1950s and 1960s, it is estimated that the Soviet Union had some of the highest abortion rates in the world. The abortion rate during this period is not known for sure, because the Soviet Union did not start releasing abortion statistics until perestroika. The best estimates, which are based on surveys of medical professionals during this time, say that about 6 to 7 million abortions were performed per year.

Quote:By the end of the Brezhnev era in 1982, Soviet birthrates hovered just at or below replacement level except in the Muslim-majority Central Asian republics.

Post: #7

OP - you are also missing another important point.

The so-called socialist countries are in some points less socialist than the Western ones. You cannot really survive being jobless for years and decades like in the West. Also single mothers don't make it in EE/FSU if they don't work a good job or have a husband.

In that respect the socialism is more prevalent in the West and the US. And this is a very important point when it comes to carousel riding and mindless pregnancies by drug dealers. There is a far greater incentive to do that in the US & UK.

Post: #8

Absolutely, the old association of 'The West' with capitalism is laughable now. It's like associating beauty with American girls because of baywatch.