Post: #26

How does this embarrassing behavior not eventually get him fired?

Isn't his boss thinking, "pathetic"?

That other guy who wrote that email to interns got fired and he was just goofing around. But he got fired for poor judgement, I am not seeing any brilliant behavior here.

Post: #27

(07-06-2015 06:13 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  He should take the 10k and offer it to a man with massive Game for personal coaching and Red Pill course.

After a short period he would be able to understand women 100 times better and could get himself a girlfriend not as a Beta Bucks, but also Alpha Fucks. That skill is more valuable than supplying him with a woman who will likely divorce him later on anyway.

That is a solid advice.


However I fear that he does not want to make the time for this. And you need PRACTICE, while this guy just want put in the time.

Post: #28

(07-07-2015 01:15 AM)TheMaleBrain Wrote:  

(07-06-2015 06:13 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  He should take the 10k and offer it to a man with massive Game for personal coaching and Red Pill course.

After a short period he would be able to understand women 100 times better and could get himself a girlfriend not as a Beta Bucks, but also Alpha Fucks. That skill is more valuable than supplying him with a woman who will likely divorce him later on anyway.

That is a solid advice.


However I fear that he does not want to make the time for this. And you need PRACTICE, while this guy just want put in the time.

I took pity upon him and wrote him this:

Quote:Brother!

You know the story of the fish and the fishing rod? Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and give him a fishing rod and he will be fed for life.

That is what I am proposing to you.

The science of seduction and Game is real. The Red Pill to explain female behavior and attract women is real.

Take the money and do the following:

1. Contact this coach for personal sessions: http://www.pickupalpha.com/about/

He is an Asian American dating coach who also offers coachings and his Game is solid (not like some incompetent scammers out there)
https://www.youtube.com/user/SquattinCassanova

2. You can also go it alone and read first some helpful Game literature:

Roosh: Bang & Daybang
Nick Krauser: All Daygame products

3. Mentality and reality of the Red Pill:
The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi - book 1 and 2 and also blog by the same author
http://therationalmale.com/
Heartiste and his stories are helpful too (don't let his far right political views scare you away - his viewpoints are solid and helpful)
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/

A huge world will be opening up to you if you accept this and become a man who not only attracts women easily, but also keeps them hooked for life (much reduced chance of divorce).

All the best & Good Luck

Zel

P.S.: You will need a lot of luck without the mentioned knowledge above. I am sure that some women will be there who will respond to your ad. You will find one, but you will be none the wiser.

Enclosed you find a Red Pill cartoon, that is only too true in real life. The tragi part is that seduction skills can be learned. Women respond to certain stimuli and you can weaponize your intelligence. Don't let this chance slip you by.

Also I posted this pic, since you had to upload a picture there:



It's all up to him. The Asian PUA above may not be the world's best, but he is solid enough and offers long-term coaching. Plus he will probably associate with him better.

Now it's up to him - my take is that he might reject the Red Pill off the bat. Maybe after his first divorce he will be back emailing me that I was right.

We will see.

Post: #29

Excellent advice here. It is just amazingly sad that even someone with a Harvard MBA struggles to meet quality women. Hypergamy is so out of control that it is either game or having millions in the bank or no chance at all at even average women in the USA. As the govt. grows, it will take more and more of either, and most likely both, just to get a woman.

Post: #30

Chances are that this guy is probably at least somewhat socially inept or has no game.

However, this is still very worrying because this guy is clearly a high value man. He is good looking, in shape, looks relatively young, highly educated (with a Harvard MBA degree) and is successful career-wise; but yet he STILL cannot manage to secure himself a long term relationship. Imagine what the situation is like for all the other guys who are in a worse position than he is.

This would never happen in any other place outside of the Anglosphere.

Post: #31

(07-07-2015 04:02 AM)Biologist Wrote:  Chances are that this guy is probably at least somewhat socially inept or has no game.

However, this is still very worrying because this guy is clearly a high value man. He is good looking, in shape, looks relatively young, highly educated (with a Harvard MBA degree) and is successful career-wise; but yet he STILL cannot manage to secure himself a long term relationship. Imagine what the situation is like for all the other guys who are in a worse position than he is.

This would never happen in any other place outside of the Anglosphere.

Exactly. Even if he is socially awkward, his situation puts him in the top 25% of men. And it still is not good enough for American women.

Post: #32

Based on that other thread, what he really needs is a tattoo and access to lots of cocaine.

Post: #33

(07-07-2015 02:17 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  Based on that other thread, what he really needs is a tattoo and access to lots of cocaine.

Tattoos and cocaine would improve his chances.

Recently on Gavin McInnes's podcast (the man who told feminists they'd be happier at home), he said he advised a millenial Asian guy to get a tattoo of a knife on his forearm to ward off negative stereotypes about being a pussy and so forth.

Post: #34

Seems like a scam somehow. Not because I can't picture a Harvard grad with $ being loveless, but because I can't picture a Harvard grad being stupid enough not to realize how easy it would be to scam him out of $10k.

Or perhaps I didn't read the details. I bet I could talk my current or former FBs to go 'date' him for a while.

Actually that sounds kinda fun...

Post: #35

(07-07-2015 03:15 PM)heavy Wrote:  Seems like a scam somehow. Not because I can't picture a Harvard grad with $ being loveless, but because I can't picture a Harvard grad being stupid enough not to realize how easy it would be to scam him out of $10k.

Or perhaps I didn't read the details. I bet I could talk my current or former FBs to go 'date' him for a while.

Actually that sounds kinda fun...

A real pimp would charge more than $10k for 6 months. Try something closer to $5k for a weekend.

Post: #36

(07-07-2015 03:09 PM)Lucky Wrote:  

(07-07-2015 02:17 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  Based on that other thread, what he really needs is a tattoo and access to lots of cocaine.

Tattoos and cocaine would improve his chances.

Recently on Gavin McInnes's podcast (the man who told feminists they'd be happier at home), he said he advised a millenial Asian guy to get a tattoo of a knife on his forearm to ward off negative stereotypes about being a pussy and so forth.

I just had a great idea for my first tattoo- a naked girl snorting cocaine off a knife.

Post: #37

Is this for real?

I quickly read through the entire thread, and even if he has 'some kind of problem dealing with people', I can't see how this is 'real' or something else is wrong.

The only reasonable explanation I can see is that it was done for the publicity or someone is pulling a practical joke.

One is to believe that he has the following:
1: Reasonable good looks.
2: Works out and it shows in his body build.
3: Graduated from a top school with an in demand degree
4: Is not even 30 yet, i.e. not old , not middle age
5: Works in private equity so he makes good money and may be on track to become a top 1% earner
6: Is in a major city

But we are to believe that his dating prospects are so poor that he needs/wants to offer to pay someone to introduce him to the right person, because being in a major city (Boston) at a top school (Harvard) didn't bring him in contact with any potential top prospects?

Post: #38

I lold at the title of the article.. His first name is Harvard MBA
That's why You repels women. Obviously just another kid from an affluent family that never learned how to develop his personality, got accepted to a top university and was eager to pay the 100k for a two year masters ("then I'll be swimming in pussy!"). His problem has nothing to do with western women and everything to do with being boring, entitled, and having no identity beyond where he went to school.

Post: #39

(09-17-2015 09:02 PM)EvanWilson Wrote:  Is this for real?

I think it is 'for real'.

I had some more time to think about the scenario, and I think this may very well be 'real' and shows a growing problem. We all knew the problem has been growing but I always thought there would be an upper limit on how bad it would get. (Women only wanting 'top men' that are high in all areas of importance to women.)

My first reaction, for the reasons listed above, there has to be something wrong with the guy, since how can a guy with this background and ability need to do this, but after thinking more about it, I realize that it very well could be all true.

More points upon reflection:

1: He appears to be looking for a LTR, not an ONS. That is why I think he specified the time for the relationship of at least six months. I also think that he is probably looking for a woman that is marriage material and suitable mother for children that he might want to have later. In that case, where he is now 29 years old, and has not found someone, I can see why he would offer money to find someone within the next few years, especially if he wants to have children in his early to mid 30s, that way his kids are through college before he retires. Anyone waiting until their 40s to have children are still going to be dealing with raising them in retirement when they are over 60, and may not have the energy to enjoy them or do everything with them that parents should do.
If that is what he is looking for, then he might be looking for a 'unicorn' in today's environment, hence the need to offer $10K to anyone that can find such a woman.

2: We know from other sources that high income appears to becoming of little to no use in pulling high value women, and even the best men with high incomes plus game have their women 'flake' on them for no apparent reason after a while and the relationship is dead. I remember one of the ROK articles about the guy that arranged an apartment and car (BMW class) for a former Miss Mexico and sued her in court after she left him for a MMA fighter. (I think the guy is not going to win the lawsuit and suing is just a further fail on his part.) I also remember a comment from one person about how their sister had the opportunity to marry into a very wealthy family, like top 1%, but turned the guy down because 'she felt she could do better'. There was also the story about the law school student who started an intense exercise regime to build muscle mass to get back with a former girlfriend because she said that is ‘what she wanted in a man’. He ended up spending months doing nothing but school and working out; only to have her leave him after a few months because she was bored or something. (One possible explanation with game principals, is that by doing so much, just for her, while he was building muscle, it was taken and felt by her as ‘beta behavior’ because he was only doing it for her because she wanted him to. As we all know, that just made her lose the 'tingles' for him and leave him. He should have made it clear it was to get other women also, not just for her. I think he needed to be ‘spinning plates’ in order to have ‘kept her in her place’ if he didn’t want her to leave him.)

3: I think this situation shows just how bad women may becoming in the west with the standards of what they expect a man to be in order for them to be with him. I had thought for the last few years that these ‘rising expectations’ of women would not continue to rise, but I think this may be one of the first situations showing that these expectations are rising (or have already risen) to the level such that soon, no man will be able to meet them. If that happens I expect flaking will always be happening also.
There have been other threads that mentioned or shows this rising expectations problem. Roosh use to tell women who complained that they could not get the man they wanted that they needed to improve themselves or lower their own expectation of what they could reasonably expect to get for a man. Instead, one poster said that he knew a woman that had lower SMV due to aging (late 20s?) who said that ‘she is not lowering her price’ and was still alone with no one. We also have the poster who related that he got a date from one of the online sites, I think OKC or Tinder, and told the guy she had some ridiculous amount of contacts/emails/winks/nudges, likes, 2,800+. The problem is that getting picked by her to even go on a date is more like random luck since there is no way she could even glance at all of the contacts. (Looking at each contact for 15 seconds each would take over 11 hours. There is no way anyone would bother doing that so if a guy gets picked out of that many contacts, while partly how he looks and such, it is also partly luck since she probably didn’t even bother to look at 90%+ of the attempted contacts.)

4: His attitude may change over time on what he wants. If things are really getting that bad for anyone wanting a LTR, then I think this guys attitude may change over time as to what he wants or expects will be possible. The one thing I do NOT want to see, is that in ten years he gets ‘divorce raped’ because he settled for some ‘land whale’ (or woman who became a land whale once they had a few kids).

5: I think a lot of men look at this as unbelievable because if this guy, with all of his looks, money, potential, is having this kind of problem finding a good LTR, then what chance does the typical guy have? The answer of course, is almost none, if you want only a LTR. Unless someone is a multi millionaire or a movie star with the looks and money; but it looks like those things are not working anymore. Game helps so you do not end up alone, but it looks like women (at least in the West) may be becoming so bad off with things like iPhones, attention whoring, etc. that there is nothing that can be done.

6: His personality. I do not think it matters, since as we all here know, the bigger a jerk a guy is, the better he does with women. Even IF he ‘has’ asperser’s, it didn’t stop him from developing his body or completing a MBA at Harvard. I even question if asperser is really a ‘disorder’ and more of a category of people, since a lot of the men who are ‘diagnosed’ with it, sort of like the ADHD ‘diagnoses’ where the doctor wants to start up the medicine cabinet full of pills for the ‘disorder’.
I think the problem is that we may be seeing a new level to which the women in the West have been ruined. If this is the case, we will know because we will start to see more and more of these situations, where men of top quality are unable to find someone suitable for marriage and the ones that do, only could marry because they found a ‘unicorn’. If this is the case, then I also expect we will see marriage rates drop more and divorce rates rise more, until it reaches the point where marriage is rare and almost everyone that did marry gets divorced.

7: What to do? I have no idea. While I have known things were bad and getting worse for years, I never thought it would come to this. I do not know what is going to come next but I do not expect it will be good.

Post: #40

Could just be gay. And not coming to grips with it well.

Post: #41

Doubt it. I've run into weird "prestigious" types who think that all their problems in life can be solved with a more prestigious resume.....the kind that actually thinks girls give a Shit about their job at Blackrock or Goldman and that getting into Harvard will help.

It wont with the exception of mid level gold diggers who are probably going to be cheating all over your symp ass the first chance she gets.

Post: #42

Maybe this shows what is happening with men also, in that they are losing their ability to socialize with other people?

This all seems like an approach like what some women would do, turn to social media and broadcasting the situation out to everyone.


I thought more about it.
1: Gay explanation? I do not think that is what is going on here. If that was the case I would expect he would have realized it years ago.

2: More prestigious resume? If this was the problem, I would have expected that some 'gold digger' would have got him into a marriage and even had kids by now. Instead, I get the impression that even the gold diggers are not anywhere around.

One thing that did occur to me, is that his approach to the situation, broadcasting this out on the media, seems to be something like an iPhone and social media addicted woman would do. Is it possible that many men are now becoming so unable to socialize that things like this are going to start to happen more and more, even with men, that by most objective standards, would be considered successful?

If that is the case, then the study of game should be able to change things for the better, since he has a good base to work from (good looks, high income, educated, business network, private equity firm employment suggest economic and even political power access), he would just need to know how to use the materials he has to work with to get what he wants. What I would find alarming is that with being in the market for over a decade of dating, is this is what the results are for him and maybe many other men. All of the potential prospects seem to be gone and there are none left around them.

Post: #43

Maybe this guy and J. J. WATT can get together once a month and discuss strategies.

This is the type of man who is most likely to be taken advantage of for hoe wanna be house wife. At the rate this carousel is spinning, their will always be a vagina ready to jump off for a good setup. Its clear with this story that there is no shortage of men desperate enough for a 'girlfriend' that their wiling to pay.
We all know here that tou pay for pussy one way or he other and this suckers gonna be paying, big time.

Post: #44

(07-07-2015 04:08 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(07-07-2015 04:02 AM)Biologist Wrote:  Chances are that this guy is probably at least somewhat socially inept or has no game.

However, this is still very worrying because this guy is clearly a high value man. He is good looking, in shape, looks relatively young, highly educated (with a Harvard MBA degree) and is successful career-wise; but yet he STILL cannot manage to secure himself a long term relationship. Imagine what the situation is like for all the other guys who are in a worse position than he is.

This would never happen in any other place outside of the Anglosphere.

Exactly. Even if he is socially awkward, his situation puts him in the top 25% of men. And it still is not good enough for American women.

Yeah, but hey just get over it, in the US being highly educated and successful career-wise is not worth that much if you have little social skills and most importantly if you're not "cool".

You say:

(07-07-2015 04:02 AM)Biologist Wrote:  Imagine what the situation is like for all the other guys who are in a worse position than he is.

Well depends, if they're in a worse position financially but are actually cooler than him, then they will be successful with girls. I for my part don't mind that in the US coolness is so important. It's easier to be cool than rich ..

(07-07-2015 04:02 AM)Biologist Wrote:  this guy is clearly a high value man.

Yeah so what - in the US girls don't need your money - there are so many chumps out there who will pay for all types of shit + government handouts so that girls don't really need "a high value man" from a financial standpoint.

It's just from your perspective that he's "high value". You look at it objectively - good education - check - makes good money - check - good body - check. But for girls it's different - they're not objective. It's really all emotion.

Post: #45

(09-19-2015 11:15 AM)Ice Wrote:  

(07-07-2015 04:08 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(07-07-2015 04:02 AM)Biologist Wrote:  Chances are that this guy is probably at least somewhat socially inept or has no game.

However, this is still very worrying because this guy is clearly a high value man. He is good looking, in shape, looks relatively young, highly educated (with a Harvard MBA degree) and is successful career-wise; but yet he STILL cannot manage to secure himself a long term relationship. Imagine what the situation is like for all the other guys who are in a worse position than he is.

This would never happen in any other place outside of the Anglosphere.

Exactly. Even if he is socially awkward, his situation puts him in the top 25% of men. And it still is not good enough for American women.

Yeah, but hey just get over it, in the US being highly educated and successful career-wise is not worth that much if you have little social skills and most importantly if you're not "cool".

You say:

(07-07-2015 04:02 AM)Biologist Wrote:  Imagine what the situation is like for all the other guys who are in a worse position than he is.

Well depends, if they're in a worse position financially but are actually cooler than him, then they will be successful with girls. I for my part don't mind that in the US coolness is so important. It's easier to be cool than rich ..

(07-07-2015 04:02 AM)Biologist Wrote:  this guy is clearly a high value man.

Yeah so what - in the US girls don't need your money - there are so many chumps out there who will pay for all types of shit + government handouts so that girls don't really need "a high value man" from a financial standpoint.

It's just from your perspective that he's "high value". You look at it objectively - good education - check - makes good money - check - good body - check. But for girls it's different - they're not objective. It's really all emotion.

Bingo. Ice has hit the nail on the head.

Young women in the United States (and this is particularly true of those in progressive, highly educated urban centers like DC, Boston, NY) are not particularly concerned with any of the things that make a man "high value" from our perspective. Many of the posts here are engaging in classic projection - objectively, we as men can see high value, but women are looking for different things.

It is nice to have a good education, make good money, and be in shape. All of those are great things for a woman to have in a future long-term mate or partner, but this is not what most young single women are looking for. What they seek above all else is fun and excitement.

They are not asking "is this guy healthy?" and "can he give my children legacy at an elite school" or "can he afford to provide a great lifestyle for me and my 2 or 3 kids?" Many of these women are approached by multiple men who can give her all of that and more, only for her to completely blow them off.

They are asking "is this guy cool?" and "will my friends like him and respond positively to my being seen with him" and "will we make a cute couple?"

I'll quote an excellent post by WestIndianArchie that sheds light on this dynamic:

(06-27-2013 11:17 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Unlike men, a target looking good is just the beginning of the analysis.

She see's a 6'2" dude in some nice jeans, no gut, decent shirt, and chiseled jaw - that's when the questions start.
- Who's he with
- How's he interacting with people
- Does he look confident
- What do my friends think? Do they think he's attractive? Would we make a cute couple?
- Can he fuck?
- These shoes hurt
- My titties are getting sore, I hope I don't start bleeding early
- Is he talking to that skank...

None of these concerns go to his degree or status as a good provider. She's not looking for that because she doesn't need it - she has her own job and a host of other means with which to provide for herself that don't require your help. If she's your typical college-educated progressive girl, then she also likely has a very heavy ideological investment in doing for herself and remaining independent of what we would consider traditional male financial support for as long as she can, and it would take quite a bit for her to abandon that.

What she really wants is a cool guy who can excite her and make her feel good.

If you are the most well credentialed guy in the world and you are a) not cool and b) unable to excite her and keep her entertained (read: you're boring), you will be on your own more often than not.

There do exist women who are more concerned about the things we think matter (ex: degree, future earning potential, etc), but good luck finding one who is single and attractive at 20+ (they are in short supply and high demand, so just about all are pretty much on lock down before they hit 22/23) in the United States. Good luck finding one, especially in a liberal urban hotspot like Boston or New York.

This guy would be best served keeping to himself now, grinding and saving for a long while, and then exiting the USA down the road in order to settle in a part of the world in which women may be more likely to value what he brings to the table. He's got very little hope of finding what he wants in a place like Boston.

Post: #46

He should have gone to Booth. We have better women.