Post: #26

^^ Yeah, I'm in the same frame of mind now.

Even last year on my blog I wrote an upbeat post about how despite the degeneracy, the U.S. was still a land of great opportunity and freedoms thanks to those dead white guys in the revolution. Now, it seems that just after the last thirty days the finality that there is nothing worth left saving and that it's all over has crept into me.

Ramzpaul made a point a few days ago that "America no longer exists" and that it's time for something new. It's hard to disagree with him at this point.

Post: #27

This is the tipping point for me, seeing this. I have always kind of supported the gays in their crusade to get married but now I see that this is what they're using that right for, to outright terrorize people that don't agree with them? Fuck it.

God hates fags, and now I'm getting to that point too.

Post: #28

(07-05-2015 12:59 PM)iamdegaussed Wrote:  This is the tipping point for me, seeing this. I have always kind of supported the gays in their crusade to get married but now I see that this is what they're using that right for, to outright terrorize people that don't agree with them? Fuck it.

God hates fags, and now I'm getting to that point too.

This really is it. If you had asked me two years ago I would have said something like, "who cares. Let them get married and be happy and I don't care what people do in their bedrooms. Get the government out of the marriage business" and then I would have made a joke about gay divorce. If you asked me 6 or more years ago, I would have been firmly in their camp. I used to have a equal sign on one of my laptops in college.

I really don't have any animosity towards any particular gay person. I know several and had one in my family by marriage. I have had friends who were gay and it wasn't a big deal.

However, constantly pushing this shit down our throats is really starting to piss me off. First I started getting annoyed with all the gay shit in the media. Shows like Spartacus, full of masculine pride and violence and tits, all of a sudden have constant gay shit. Same with Game of Thrones or The Walking Dead (thought I think the comics had a gay character) and basically it seems I can't watch a single show without some overt gay shit.

It used to mildly annoy me and now it pisses me off.

Where years ago I might have thought that these "bigots" deserved it, today I look at something like being fined 130k for not making a cake and it is insane.

I really do wonder if the homos aren't going to keep pushing to the point that they end up creating a lot of blowback.

No matter what your views are, religious or not or conservative/liberal or whatever, here in the flyover states people don't really care that much about gays. Even those who are more religious don't care that much.

Most are just too busy trying to live their lives and get by. They might make a joke here or there but most wouldn't even go that far.

Of the gays they know or interact with, most seem like upstanding people.

It is hard, even for those who condemn that lifestyle, to look at Phil who runs the local theatre group and his "roommate" who teaches English at the local community college and have anything against them. Again, people might make a joke behind their back but most wouldn't do anything like that.

They come off as normal people and not freakish at all. At most you might see one flaming guy working at the salon and even he will be liked by all the church women.

But wait until they start having these gay parades like they do in San Francisco in middle America and I suspect shit really will hit the fan.

Post: #29

Which one of you guys wants to 'get married'? We'll call all the midwestern wedding chapels until we find the one in BFE that has a Confederate flag flying in the back of his old pickup truck, sue the pants off of the guys, split the profits, and then 'break up' before the ink is dry on the court decision. EZ money.

Post: #30

Gay marriage has now been reframed as a civil rights issue by all indoctrinated pro LGBTQstds loving media outlets. So what normal person can refuse a homosexual couple their Civil Rights is their mind set in front of the courts who are brainwashed and inclined to agree.

I therefore think the better strategy for Christian Businesses is the Hawaiian Kamaaina pricing model - charge tourists as much as 4 times more than the locals or kamaaiina meaning local price.

This would further be strengthened by Peak Demand premium pricing...

So they quote the lesbies lovers $20K Peak Premium pricing instead of the $3K locals pricing,

Ironically if one of the lesbies law suiters tried to sue the Christian Business for what ever made up charges they can get to stick - the defense fund would already have been paid by the other lezzies.

Post: #31

Where do these sick fucks get off? Nowhere, evidently. This is pure maliciousness using underhanded tactics to sabotage someone's livelihood for not agreeing with your own. I wish I could say I have a shred of hope that they'll be successful in challenging the fine, I just bet I know how this will turn out.

Post: #32

The business couple is stupid. A wedding is a wedding. The money is the same from a same sex wedding or a Hetero wedding.
Mohammed Ali won his case of not having to go to Vietnam based on religion. So he did not have to serve Uncle Sam in the army. Yet therse Christians refuse to serve 2 lesbians. They get sued. I know it's 2 different cases but these lesbians are picking a fight and the business owners should be able to win just like Ali won

Post: #33

(07-05-2015 07:45 PM)tomtud Wrote:  The business couple is stupid. A wedding is a wedding. The money is the same from a same sex wedding or a Hetero wedding.

That's like saying "money is money" when you're getting shat on by a sheik.

Post: #34

(07-05-2015 07:45 PM)tomtud Wrote:  The business couple is stupid. A wedding is a wedding. The money is the same from a same sex wedding or a Hetero wedding.
Mohammed Ali won his case of not having to go to Vietnam based on religion. So he did not have to serve Uncle Sam in the army. Yet therse Christians refuse to serve 2 lesbians. They get sued. I know it's 2 different cases but these lesbians are picking a fight and the business owners should be able to win just like Ali won

The business owner wins when they book the wedding and make the money instead of their competitors. They lose when they get dragged into court and get fined. Whether or not people agree with gay marriage is a moot point because it's here and it's not going away. And if you can't beat it, profit from it.

Post: #35

@phoenix,,, the shitting by a sheik is a bad analogy.
Apples ceo is gay so using Apple products supports gay led companies is a ridiculous thing to say.
The gay community is small, they hang out in gay villages and some have a lot of money. Why not use that audience from word of mouth and help your business prosper. Like I said a wedding from one couple or another brings in money. That's why you have a business

Nightclubs have face control, race control, amount of men coming in control, style control .... Just a matter of time before some high end clubs start getting sued if a banquet hall discriminates and can be sued and found guilty then a nightclub can fall to the same set of laws.....

Post: #36

I realized, it is a good thing crowdfunding exists so Christians can support their coreligionists.
But at the same time, this could be the beginnings of scams.
Fake incidents of gays threatening to sue Christians, something like that

Post: #37

I would have just hung up as soon as I found out it was a gay couple. Don't even dignify them with a response.

Post: #38

(07-05-2015 09:18 PM)tomtud Wrote:  @phoenix,,, the shitting by a sheik is a bad analogy.
Apples ceo is gay so using Apple products supports gay led companies is a ridiculous thing to say.
The gay community is small, they hang out in gay villages and some have a lot of money. Why not use that audience from word of mouth and help your business prosper. Like I said a wedding from one couple or another brings in money. That's why you have a business

No it's a perfect analogy. You could equally say "receiving $1000 per day for providing sheik human toiletry services" is better money than "receiving $80 per day being an excel monkey", but the key difference is actually you are getting shat on by a sheik.

The Christians would rather not recognize the fag marriage than receive the money. It's called having morals. Exercising your morals is pleasurable, in the same way spending earned money is pleasurable. For them to tolerate the discomfort of breaching their moral convictions they'd have to charge a much higher price, which would probably still attract a discrimination lawsuit anyway.

The rate you'd have to charge me to willfully throw away my morals and recognize gay "marriage" by being a marriage celebrant to two fags, would be well north of any sum they'd be willing to pay. There is little I can do with my limited means to actively counter the Left, but at the very least I'm not going to willfully support them unless they shove a gun in my face.

Post: #39

(07-05-2015 11:57 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(07-05-2015 09:18 PM)tomtud Wrote:  @phoenix,,, the shitting by a sheik is a bad analogy.
Apples ceo is gay so using Apple products supports gay led companies is a ridiculous thing to say.
The gay community is small, they hang out in gay villages and some have a lot of money. Why not use that audience from word of mouth and help your business prosper. Like I said a wedding from one couple or another brings in money. That's why you have a business

No it's a perfect analogy. You could equally say "receiving $1000 per day for providing sheik human toiletry services" is better money than "receiving $80 per day being an excel monkey", but the key difference is actually you are getting shat on by a sheik.

The Christians would rather not recognize the fag marriage than receive the money. It's called having morals. Exercising your morals is pleasurable, in the same way spending earned money is pleasurable. For them to tolerate the discomfort of breaching their moral convictions they'd have to charge a much higher price, which would probably still attract a discrimination lawsuit anyway.

The rate you'd have to charge me to willfully throw away my morals and recognize gay "marriage" by being a marriage celebrant to two fags, would be well north of any sum they'd be willing to pay. There is little I can do with my limited means to actively counter the Left, but at the very least I'm not going to willfully support them unless they shove a gun in my face.

Post: #40

Bottom line is that as the reality of social hostility hits them, serious conservative Christians are going to bunker down and become closed off to the wider community. Just more fracturing, and everybody loses.

Post: #41

Quote:everybody loses

The real outcome of this whole debacle^^^

The entire lgbt "community" is a self perpetuating train of misdirected anger and hate. Who woulda thunk that the 21st century equivalent of Hitler turned out to be a bunch of confused cross dressers

Post: #42

(07-04-2015 10:21 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  If this keeps up they will have to be more clever...instead of refusing to hold the marriage, perhaps agree to do it, but then also invite the "God hates fags" protesters from Florida to show up.

Either that or deliberately go out of their way to ruin the lesbians' "special day" like having pigs run loose through the service.

Post: #43

(07-06-2015 07:54 AM)lemko Wrote:  Either that or deliberately go out of their way to ruin the lesbians' "special day" like having pigs run loose through the service.

That would already be happening:

Post: #44

(07-06-2015 10:09 AM)RIslander Wrote:  

(07-06-2015 07:54 AM)lemko Wrote:  Either that or deliberately go out of their way to ruin the lesbians' "special day" like having pigs run loose through the service.

That would already be happening:

Post: #45

(07-04-2015 08:56 AM)Renzy Wrote:  ordered them to pay an additional $3,000 to the women.

This part feels like a huge can of worms. If homosexuals can profit from these types of stunts then the courts are effectively incentivizing this behavior. These hags just received a bonus to go toward their honeymoon in San Francisco. #lovewins Everybody line up and get a portion of your marriage paid for by the religion of your choice!

Post: #46

The government bullying people around for no good reason other than pandering to the ideals of the protected and privileged classes.

Small family owned American businesses being rubbed out and falling through the cracks because of intolerance. Livelihoods taken away. Is this freedom? Is this what America is about?

You're free to do what we tell you.