Post: #26

(07-01-2015 07:34 AM)Suits Wrote:  

I want it.
I want it all.

Post: #27

Hey guys, man up!

Post: #28

This is petty bullshit and attention whoring.

This is what women do, men should never do this crap.

Post: #29

(07-01-2015 07:34 AM)Suits Wrote:  

In case you guys wanna look them up, they're a K-pop girl group, Girl's Generation

Post: #30

I appreciate & agree with the masculine non victim hood mentality expressed in the above posts.

But if the actors have officially endorsed this campaign. Then I for one salute their fiscal bravery in coming out of the 'manosphere closet'
Bold move, considering the SJW nature of Hollywood and their markets demographic.

Although a campaign directed by a (masculine) man would've been a smarter move me thinks.

Post: #31

If it was created by a woman, odds are thus us her angle to attention whore. She will get interviews etc. Very few people, maybe none at all, can do anything without some personal reward.

Post: #32

I would find it highly surprising if the actors actually endorsed it. We are not in the position where people like them can stop toeing the party line, it is much better for their income to play the feminist card.

Post: #33

(07-01-2015 06:41 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  Men adopting female tactics will not work.

(07-01-2015 09:23 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  You will never convince anyone with this nonsense or be able to join in on the perverse feminine celebration of victimhood or reap its self-destructive short-term dopamine rushes from emoting if you're a straight male unless you cut your dick off and pretend you're a woman.

The overall consensus seems to be that this campaign will not have an effect. And you are literally saying it will have NO EFFECT. While I can understand how you arrive at this conclusion from the perspective of a typical red pill RVF forum member, I still beg to differ. I think you might be so immersed in red pill sites and the blue pill-red pill dichotomy that you don't see the gradient from blue to red that is actually out there.

(07-01-2015 01:32 PM)SunW Wrote:  As others have mentioned, it sounds whiny and it's defensive.

Yes, it does.

(07-01-2015 02:39 PM)kaotic Wrote:  This is petty bullshit and attention whoring.

Yes, it is. Absolutely.

But while this may repulse any real, upstanding, adult man, we are not the target audience. The target audience speak the language of whiny, passive-aggressive wannabe victims and leftist SJWs. And they need to be talked to in their own language.

Think about this: if you want a healthy body, you need a good

• diet
• workout programme
• sleeping & recreational habits
• a mental program which allows you to switch from hardcore performance mode to relaxed recreation mode effectively
• etc.
  

Now if you have an overweight office drone who for years

• has eaten junkfood
• not done any sports
• spent his free time on TV and computer games, and
• is not used to performing or excelling at anything
  

...and then you push the full program on him... no matter how good it is... he will just give up. The change is too big.

You have to take it step by step. If there is some willingness within him to change, but only so much, then you start small. Maybe you get him to drop 2 hours of TV or games each week and instead join a "nordic walking" group or another low-level outside activity. He will not lose any weight, but he might just loose his cheesy complexion. For one guy that might be enough and he will stop at this level of self improvement, but you do it with enough people, and another guy might just want more and another one still more. They have to develop in their own time. You also didn't make the jump from blue pill to red pill, or from Incel to PUA, or from a rounded face to 10% body fat in one step.

Let me give you one example: I first came to manosphere-related sites through Arne Hofmann's german blog Genderama. The guy

• wrote some extremely blue pill books about sex (one of his book titles is actually "Masturbating for professionals" )
• is extremely pro-homo
• defines himself as leftist
• is "egalitarian" and "anti-racist"
  

...but this guy, in all of his blue pill rage and very apparent sexual frustration, is RELENTLESS in calling out radical feminism and gender-mainstreaming efforts in Germany. About three years ago, that was enough "going against the mainstream" for me. I read his blog daily, but since he only has around 2-5 small pieces of info each day, after some time it wasn't enough any more. So I sought out more info like his. And that's how I came to Dalrock, then Roissy, ROK, Rational Male etc. ...

Now he only had 200 daily visitors three years ago, but (as of December 2014), he now reports 7.000 (!) daily visitors (more proof that Germany really is a social graveyard )

I'd say that out of those 7.000, and of the ensuing growth that is still to come, some percentage will go the same way I did - be happy and content with his writing, and then after some time seek out more enlightenment. If I had come across RVF at that time however, I might have just told myself "oh, those are some terrible, women-hating men" and went on to another site. Too big a mental step.

This poster campaign and similar efforts can be a great entry point. Just because we as RVF members don't find any groundbreaking or interesting info in them or approve of their way of communication, saying they "will never convince anyone" is just unrealistic.

Post: #34

One needs only to looks at where victim politics have gotten the black community. Criminality is still rampant, poverty still rampant, the Ghettos have not improved and become nice neighborhoods. And many among the black community is still being hobbled by a prison of their own making and tearing their betters(that is the civilized black man that works hard and manages to upgrade his life) down.

They are still being suckered in the infantilizing and hobbling tactics and measures of the left encouraging parasitism,dependence and weakness instead of self-reliance and strength.

Physically they left the plantation but mentally the historically racist democrats(with the help of the degenerated blacks themselves build a plantation that they do not realize they are in) and in the end doomed to stagnancy.

Only by assuming one's own destiny, refusing to identify as a victim and doing all they can to overcome and become better men are things achieved and enemies overcome.

Considering all the achievement of our Ancestors. Why should we trap ourselves in a prison of our own making created by victimhood?

Oh and I concur that those men look like faggots.