Post: #1

Just so I can put it all in one place starting today. I'll probably have something up soon.

Post: #2

Great to see you doing this. I'm very happy for you!

We will be here to keep you positive and help you along the way.

Post: #3

Approach 1:

Had about 30 minutes before I have to clock in at work...walk around, catch a cute tan skinned Asian girl and say 'hey, this is random but I thought you were cute and I had to come talk to you.

Her: *smirks/flustered* yeah, I have to get to work
*She starts walking away, I take a few steps back*
Me: yeah, I have to get to work too, it'll only be a few seconds.

She says no, I let her go and she keeps walking. Some European dude in a gq outfit congratulates me afterwards.

Approach #2:

Stop another girl immediately after, same opener as the last girl. Seems super receptive and smiley, I think she even licked her lips at one point. I ask her name, where she's from, where she's headed...get visibly tongue tied because I'm not used to getting girls this receptive so I just ask for her number. She tells me she has a boyfriend but she's flattered. She might've just been happy about the compliment and not actually interested - why bring up her boyfriend?

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Heading out later tonight. So far I feel like this slight tweak to my direct opener (it used to be just an abrupt 'you're pretty cute, what's your name') will get me better results, because I can tell it gets their guard down a little bit at the beginning. It feels more natural too.

Post: #4

It's great to see you going direct! You should try indirect-direct, where you ask her "Hey, where is the mall? You know where it is?" to transitioning to regular convo, qualifiers, teasing, etc. Then mid-set, you give a statement of intent. "I actually thought you were cute. That's partly why I stopped you." Then proceed.

As soon as I resume my approaches, Im gonna try that as well.

Post: #5

Glad to see you making progress. Keep it up.

Post: #6

Approach #3 (night):

Get off work, a bit stifled for the first half hour but in an unusually cocky mood. Pass by a group of plus-sized Hispanic and black girls and get my ass pinched by one of them, then I bump into a girl, notice she's cute...

Me: you're pretty cute what's your name
*doesnt respond
Me: didn't hear you.
Her: oh, I'm engaged

She walks the other way and I tell her I'm happy for her.

Approach #4:

See lots of hot fucking girls waiting in line by this club, see an 8/10 along the side of the line, walk up to her and open.

Me: you're really cute, what's your name
Her: _______
*she has this nonchalant, 'hot girl blase' demeanor that's really ambiguous*
Me: I'm ______
Her: hi ______
Me: so what are you waiting for here
Her: just blah blah blah
Me: I can get you in *dumb joke*
Her: *face lights up* really? You know blah blah
Me: no I'm fucking with you
*i walk away*

Honestly didn't know what to do with that set. Her demeanor was intimidatingly aloof at the beginning and I didn't feel entitled enough to push through. I feel like the aloofness made me try too hard to get a reaction from her, hence the joke about being able to get her into the club.

Approach #5:

See this gorgeous fucking girl, think I catch her staring vaguely in my direction, open:

Me: you're really cute what's your name
Her: ____ meet my husband

*points to some guy with his hand around some girl*

I say 'sorry!' like a chode

Husband: I don't care. It's a compliment

Keep walking.

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Taking a quick break. About to do some more.

Post: #7

Approach #6:

I'm walking next to a park, see 3 girls in front of me. Up ahead a group of chodey looking guys are offering one of them chips, I see her walk back to her group and she's cute. I keep walking, walk past them, and I'm just super pissed off that I'm about to pass that up so I walk back over to them and open the girl who's facing away.

Me: you're super fucking cute what's your name
Her: _____
Me: where are you from?
Her: _____
Me: you came all the way from there for tonight?
Her: yeah, it's only a 3 hour drive

We start crossing the street and I have absolutely nothing to say to her and I'm just trying not to burst laughing.

Me: nice to meet you

And I fuck off.


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So my biggest sticking point is that I don't know how to talk/flirt and eject too early.

Post: #8

Awesome for you for taking the initiative to do this - it takes balls to approach a stranger in the daytime and try to make something happen, but...

Quote:Had about 30 minutes before I have to clock in at work...walk around, catch a cute tan skinned Asian girl and say 'hey, this is random but I thought you were cute and I had to come talk to you.

Quote:Me: you're pretty cute what's your name
*doesnt respond
Me: didn't hear you.
Her: oh, I'm engaged

Quote:Me: you're really cute what's your name
Her: ____ meet my husband

Quote:Me: you're super fucking cute what's your name

Same opener every time...this is the time to experiment - go indirect (I only go direct on girls that eye-fucked me so they're clearly down).

'Hey, excuse me, where is the place? I'm new in town and want to look around...'

'Wow, that's a killer something she's wearing, my mother/sister/female relative has a birthday soon and she'd love something like that, where did you get it?'

'Can you answer something for me? Why are people in this city always so adjective?'

Adapt, evolve, refine, and most of all best luck to you.

Post: #9

The last 3 you quoted were 'night game' would you recommend going indirect at night too?

Post: #10

(06-20-2015 02:42 AM)depravity Wrote:  The last 3 were 'night game' would you recommend going indirect at night too?

At night you can ask them what bar or club they're going to and who they know there, and even drop some bait about some other, superior place you know about and friends there - girls going out at night (more and more...) seem to be more in it for the free shit and photo ops and the dancing and less about going out to meet a guy - promise them a better deal. Those last two openers I posted can be used at night if it's in a place where you can talk with her without thumping music overhead. You can even tweak the first one to 'I've heard about the thing or place in this city. Where is it/what's so special about it?'

'My buddy at X spot has tables and drinks for Cheaper than this other spot you're going to. Give me your number and I'll give you the information.'

Even switch it up - 'I have drinks at my table, stop by...', hell if she's fine/interested enough even buy her a drink to give you a bit of time. If you have good dance moves just go onto the floor to dance up on girls. I rarely night game anymore because it's just too damn energy and price intensive on me, but I've seen before that drinks + solid dance moves + interesting ramble + logistics + the willingness to isolate is a winning formula.

Get out there during the day. 100 approaches sounds like a lot but 10 a night that go nowhere can easily be spammed. Diversify your approaches to get the most experience - I don't know how old you are but when you're 35 unless you're rich and famous you'll be 'that old guy' in the club and will need to be strong in other areas.

My post in a gem thread about daygame.

Post: #11

This is great.

You have approached in the toughest environments and some very tough situations.

Rejections and not knowing what to say are just "steps" to a better tomorrow. Trust me.

By you doing these approaches, there is a long resting alpha in that subconscious of yours that is just waking up and starting his game training. And he's rested enough. It's time for him to help you get what is yours.

Keep working. Nothing comes without work and you're putting it in. I'm excited to see your progression so far and look forward to more.

Post: #12

Is there a way to improve on not knowing what to say in the short-term though? Or is it just something that I'm going to have to feel out through experience? During the day it feels easier to fill up space with basic, interview-like questions (where are you from, etc.), but when I'm talking to a girl at 2 AM I feel like I have to be saying something more dynamic and charged.

Post: #13

(06-20-2015 12:25 PM)depravity Wrote:  Is there a way to improve on not knowing what to say in the short-term though? Or is it just something that I'm going to have to feel out through experience? During the day it feels easier to fill up space with basic, interview-like questions (where are you from, etc.), but when I'm talking to a girl at 2 AM I feel like I have to be saying something more dynamic and memorable.

Depravity day game is all about being normal, calm and social. Banter over questions. (I bet you...You look like...You don't look like, There's no way you...)

This is my opener and transition to talking about her. Hope this helps.

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"Excuse me, this is really random but I had to come say hi to you." Smile. "I'm Sugar."

She says hi/I'm Jennifer/etc

"Really? You don't look like a Jennifer." Or "you're totally a Jennifer."

Either way it hooks unless she really doesn't want to talk to you.

Field tested no less than >1000 times.


1. Isn't a compliment
2. Gets her attention.
3. The "you don't look like" or "you look like" hooks because it's interesting. Think about it. If you said your name, and someone replied "you don't look like a Roosh" you would want to know why not.

Try it in field

Post: #14

What if she asks why? 'just something about you, it's probably your ____'?

Post: #15

(06-20-2015 01:50 PM)depravity Wrote:  What if she asks why? 'just something about you, it's probably your ____'?

You need to learn how to ramble, making things up as you go. Watch some Seinfeld. That may help.

You - Oh Shit! You look like a ghost!
Her - WTF! Why? What's wrong with you?
You - I dunno, you got that white shirt on, and you got that pale white makeup on. Lemme see your hands. (compliance)

Her - Sure. Teehee.

You - *mutters* then laughs

Then you go into a diatribe about how in the old world, you could always tell who was an aristocrat by the paleness of their skin and color of their veins. Blue bloods they called them because they used silver and through generations of mixing with other blue bloods blah blah blah...maybe tease her about having a family fortune...etc etc. This is where your fancy book learnin' helps you out.

You get the idea? The above is a stretch, but still. Damn. I need to go approach. Also, learn to get your mojo up, man. Listen to your favorite tracks to pump you up before you go out.

Post: #16

(06-20-2015 01:50 PM)depravity Wrote:  What if she asks why? 'just something about you, it's probably your ____'?

I'm usually just honest. For example here in the Bay area I meet tons of Asian or half-Asian girls with white girl names. I always bust on them - "That's a while girl's name!" Sometimes she will pretend to be offended, but I will already be talking about something else like what we're doing today.

Post: #17

Approach #7:

Get off work at night. Go 3 hours without approaching a girl somehow. Wasn't feeling it, the streets were dry and it was getting late, saw someone half-decent and approached half-assed because I didn't want to go home without approaching someone, barely even made eye contact:

Me: you're pretty cute, what's your name
Girl: no.

Start heading to the train station. See some jacked, massive jawed dude walking in front of me get his arm stroked by some random 6-7 Asian girl passing by him on an empty street - he just dismisses it nonchalantly and keeps walking - and after that I'm just in low spirits.

Post: #18

For you next couple of approaches, go indirect or indirect-direct. Don't be too upbeat. Try to maintain a more relaxed vibe.

That rejection was brutal. I probably would have responded with "You don't have a name?" and walk away laughing.

Post: #19

It's weird because I still have approach anxiety, but there's nothing a specific girl has said or done to me so far that's really hurt or lingered in my mind for more than 10 seconds.

And I'll have to warm up to the idea of going indirect.

Post: #20

depravity:
I'm going to do you a huge favor here. This may sound extremely basic, but I've never seen it posted anywhere on the forum. Buy two packs of gum, either Dentyne or Trident, total investment, approximately $3.50 in New York. Ask every quality girl you see if she wants a piece of gum. Most of them should accept the gum and should then be more receptive to you. Some guys may say this is beta or whatever, but I've banged countless girls over twenty-plus years doing this, so I know it works.

Post: #21

What usually happens after you offer the gum? Do you just make an observation about her and go from there?

Post: #22

Approach #8:

Bought a pack of trident, see a cute girl.

Me: hey, want a stick of game, i'm trying to get rid of these *I'm nervous and rush the delivery*
girl: I actually have to go, not really
Me: just take one

*hand it to her*

girl: okay

and she keeps walking

Approach #9:

me: want a stick of gum?
girl: no thank you

she looks like she's in a bad mood and keeps walking.

Post: #23

Try an indirect opener, pretending you are lost or asking for directions....and then casually slipping a piece of gum into your mouth. At the same time, chew and furrow your brow and offer her a piece, all while still talking. You need some more nuance and finesse in your social interaction.

You - Hey, you know where Starbucks is?
Her - I think it's on H. Street.
You - *Takes out gum and pops a piece in your mouth* I don't even know why I bother to walk this far for crappy coffee anyway.

--This is where you offer the gum--

It has to look very casual.

Then you can transition about how you are meeting your friend Bill and you guys are maybe going to Top Golf afterwards blah blah. Do a cold read on her and proceed forward.

Just offering the gum is gonna look very strange.

Also, when you open, many times the girl is gonna hit you with a time constraint ("I gotta go", " I need to wash my hair", etc.). It's your job to to drag out the set as long as possible. Or screen for better prospects. Look for girls walking slowly or already sitting. Try some malls.

"Dont worry. I'm not trying to sell you anything." Use that.

Post: #24

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Post: #25

(06-22-2015 08:39 AM)depravity Wrote:  ...

I really respect what you're doing, man. Hang in there, keep going. Just keep approaching, lock that abundance mentality in your mindset.

Remember: you are the prize. If some chick doesn't recognize that, its her loss.