(05-28-2016 05:23 AM)Paracelsus Wrote: I have to say I love the whole own-goal quality of protesters waving placards stating "America was never great". That would include all of Obama's tenure, as well as Hilary's tenure as Secretary of State. It is an insult to anyone outside the extremist left. I think that sign does more damage to the Leftist cause than La Raza terrorists waving Mexican flags at Trump rallies.
They probably learned all of their history from books like this:
Quote:A People’s History caught the imagination of the public, or a portion of it, for several reasons. Foremost was its uncomplicated and ideologically attractive message, enlivened by Zinn’s palpable passion and customarily lucid prose. An easily drinkable blend of the radical history that was now ripe on the vine, the book gave readers the American experience as seen by the losers and the victims. Or as Zinn memorably put it: “the discovery of America from the viewpoint of the Arawaks, of the Constitution from the standpoint of the slaves, of Andrew Jackson as seen by the Cherokees, of the Civil War as seen by the New York Irish … the Gilded Age as seen by southern farmers, the First World War as seen by socialists, the Second World War as seen by pacifists, the New Deal as seen by blacks in Harlem, the postwar American empire as seen by peons in Latin America.” In casting himself in solidarity with grassroots movements of protest, Zinn found a winning formula: how could you not root for Zinn and his rag-tag cast of plucky underdogs against the slaveholders, robber barons, imperialists, and protectors of privilege?
Well, El Chinto, I know we argued a little bit over Mexican immigration and I have to say that after reviewing these photos, you were right. Just as a note when I said I lived in the SouthWest, I meant Arizona.
These progressive Mexican activists in SoCal suck.
Almost all of the Mexicans I have met in Arizona have been nice to me and have treated me well.
This is further proof that Red states are superior to Blue states and that progressivism is a cancer to society.
I have lived in AZ and NM for a decade and the Mexican protesters you see at these rallies are no more representative of the general population than the white and black protesters you see in Chicago, Cleveland, or anywhere back east. They are all outliers.
Regardless of their politics most Mexicans who are legal, and even many that are illegal, in the southwest are hardworking, respectful, and loving people. I have lived all over the country and would put Mexicans right up there with Southerners and Midwesterners as the friendliest people in America.
When I see these violent protesters, I seriously think about getting a job with the future Trump Deportation Security Forces (could be ICE/Border Control as well). This is assuming Trump wins obviously; no way in hell am I doing THAT gig under a President Clinton. I joined the military post 9/11 partly because I wanted to fight terrorism from abroad and get the fuckers responsible for 9/11. At that time in my mind, that was the real threat to America.
Today and for some time now: subversion from within, be it Mexican or Islamic supremacists being the two big ones, seems to be the major current threat to the United States. One or two more election cycles of unchecked illegal immigration and the libtards will have a demographic majority to own elections forever and shit will spiral out of control.
Just look at places where libtards have unchecked majorities and what they have done to middle class communities; driving them out at the expense of thugs, illegal immigrants, and scumbags. Rent controls, expensive real estate, weak law enforcement, high taxes, non-existent self-defense laws, ultra political correctness, and reverse discrimination are the realities of unchecked libtard majorities more often than not.
Can you all imagine if we were in Mexico or Colombia and flying around American flags and attacking THEIR Presidential candidates? They'd probably shoot us on sight.
This sign truly pisses me off - That the MexiDrug narco Terrorists Cartels members and supporters would actually brazenly threaten the life of the next President of the USA??? I do not know what is worse - that under the anti-American Obamunist administration that this behaviour has not only become acceptable and encouraged - or - that these cartels have become so successful forcing out the Jamaicans, Colombians and Chinese gangs and taken over illegal poisonous highly addictive drugs distribution in over 300 USA and now Canadian Cities and all 50 US states with fentanyl cut heroin and cocaine causing an epidemic of drugs deaths across America - over 400 in New Hampshire and we border Canada NOT Mexico yet I can walk around Nashua, NH and take pictures of 20 bodegas with multiple Latin America based cash transfer "cambio del dinaro" services.
These evil scum Narco MexiDrug Thugs are truly merchants of DEATH. I was at the local man cave and speaking to a former US Navy Nuclear Submarines officer and we were discussing Trump over good cigars - I have him on our side now - and I mentioned that I was astounded that Obama has done nothing to prevent the flood of deadly narcotics from El Chapo Sinaloa NarcoTerrorists and the other 80 Drugs Thug Gangs in control of Mexico.
I could only imagine 2 scenarios - Obama fears that he and his family will be targeted like El Chapo targeted Trump with a reported $100 Million hit contract or more likely - follow the money - Carlos Slim Phat Helu the MexiCartels telecoms Billionaire is spreading around millions in lobbying and direct contributions to Obama, Hillary, the Obamunist Democrats in the US Senate and US Congress to ignore the Drugs trade which feeds Helu's many money transfer and mobile phone services that the Cartels and Mexican government depend upon that transfer $25 Billion USD a year back home to drugs villages across Mexico - these Death merchants and their Mega Billionaire tech and mobile enablers like Helu are making massive profits on the death and misery of others. Who cares they are only estupido Gringos... Obama DOES NOT CARE. Hillary DOES NOT CARE.
DEATH to the DEATH MERCHANTS and TRAITORS.
The Former Nuke Subs Officer looked at me with a wry look on his face and said no rule says we can't make Mexico the 51st State! Go in with our entire Armies and Air forces that we bring back from all the phucked countries who will not defend themselves (Japan, Korea, England, Germany, Sweden, Norway, France, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iraq) - nuke the phuck out of ISIS and come home and put the Narco Terrorists waging deadly war against the young dumb civilian opiate addicts and hence the entire USA - put them out of business - prosecute all of the Narco Gangsters, their Police and Politicians on the take and enable the good hard working people of Mexico to return their country back towards legitimate businesses and Make the Americas Great Again...
Well, El Chinto, I know we argued a little bit over Mexican immigration and I have to say that after reviewing these photos, you were right. Just as a note when I said I lived in the SouthWest, I meant Arizona.
These progressive Mexican activists in SoCal suck.
Almost all of the Mexicans I have met in Arizona have been nice to me and have treated me well.
This is further proof that Red states are superior to Blue states and that progressivism is a cancer to society.
It's not a big deal because I expect everyone's personal life experiences and views to differ a bit.
I went to a high school and university that was heavily mixed latino and had a lot of friends that were actually Mexican. Unfortunately quite a few acquaintences I knew back then bought into the La Raza type thinking too. This mentality has been going on for as long as I can remember.
Part of it is because of the history latinos have had in CA. It's always been sort of antagonistic with the government, police, and other races and this goes way back to the zoot suit riots and modern day black/latino relations etc.. Let's just say the neighborhood I grew up in had pretty violent relations between the different races. Most didn't personally have any beef with me but there was definitely a sort of arrogance about the whole Mexican pride thing.
All this came to a head in CA way back when proposition 187 was being put up in the early 90's. That is when I noticed a lot of what we would call "progressive" Mexicans were definitely very pro Mexico and anti everyone else in their identity. The types you see at protests are a huge slice of the Mexican demographic in CA too. They aren't all just college libtards a lot of them really are just street thugs who want a chance to shit on whitey and break stuff.
I would generally agree the southwest has race relations which are a little different. I have a few relatives in Texas and talk with a couple forum members here offline from the southwest who have mentioned that as well.
The blue states are definitely way more fucked up. However some of the most volatile Mexican community protests against Trump happened in New Mexico too.
The reason I bring up CA a lot is because it tends to lead the way when it comes to future U.S. demographics and race relations. This is troubling when you look at things a little bit ahead of the trend.
(05-28-2016 09:07 AM)Deepdiver Wrote: The Former Nuke Subs Officer looked at me with a wry look on his face and said no rule says we can't make Mexico the 51st State! Go in with our entire Armies and Air forces that we bring back from all the phucked countries who will not defend themselves (Japan, Korea, England, Germany, Sweden, Norway, France, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iraq) - nuke the phuck out of ISIS and come home and put the Narco Terrorists waging deadly war against the young dumb civilian opiate addicts and hence the entire USA - put them out of business - prosecute all of the Narco Gangsters, their Police and Politicians on the take and enable the good hard working people of Mexico to return their country back towards legitimate businesses and Make the Americas Great Again...
Even during the early 2000's when the phrase "regime change" was being said all the time, I kept thinking to myself:
"What about Mexico? They seem pretty ripe for some regime change."
1. Cartels running entire sections of the country. Lots of influence elsewhere. This isn't half a world away; this is a country with a huge border with us.
2. Massive drug trade that damages US population, innocent native Mexican populace, and surrounding countries.
3. No help with border enforcement.
4. Using us as a dumping ground for undesirables/low-class people into the US.
We could have dumped that trillion plus we spent in the Middle East and potentially cleaned up Mexico instead.
Or we could have at the very least just:
1. Built a wall - stop the flow of illegals/drugs/money
2. Enforce border controls/deportation laws,
3. Decriminalized drugs - reduce demand/price for drugs = kill money flow for cartels
We could clean up a lot of Latin America potentially if we cut off the money flow to these cartels. We know Trump is gonna do the first two; I wonder if he will do the third option (decriminalizing drugs) to really give the big fuck you to the cartels.
(05-28-2016 01:42 AM)LeoneVolpe Wrote: ^ Exactly, philosophical_recovery. The protesters are disgusting. I don't know who would look at a group of people who look like that and feel proud of associating with them. They're all dirty losers.
You have to love the photo of the guy in the camoflauge "Make America Great Again" hat, flipping the bird to a bitch while sporting a shit-eating grin. You can almost feel the emotion of that moment through the picture.
Notice that our Brother in Arms in the Camo MAGA hat flipping the Bird to the MexiDrug LaRaza illegal Narco Terrorists was holding a VETERANS FOR TRUMP sign. Amazing the restraint that our guys are showing - these Reconquista LaRaza Gringo hating anti-Americans get out of hand we might have to show up with pepper spray, AR-15s, Glocks and 357 Magnums to protect our patriotic brothers at these rallies especially at the Cleveland GOP Convention.
This Memorial Day may God bless all of our Men at Arms across America and around the world and all those who have served and especially all those who have been lost to defend our beloved country to truly MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN...
And of course Phuck the LaRaza Obamunist Narco Terrorists.
Notice her eyes. They want to fuck white boy. 100%
Edit. Beat by Ghost Tiger.
5. Joni Ernst
4. Bob Corker
3. Chris Christie
2. Mary Fallin
1. Newt Gingrich
I personally like Senator Corker because he is the current US Senate Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committe and totally neutralizes Hillary's so-called strengths and claims to fame.
Gingrich is also a superior choice as he is former Speaker of the House and knows how to get needed legislation passed with a pat on the back or some arm twisting in the right proportions as may be needed to implement the Trump Make America Great Again agenda as quickly as possible.
(05-28-2016 11:51 AM)T and A Man Wrote: How are white Americans illegal in the SW?
Mexicans loyal to Mexico claim the land was stolen from them.
Sore losers. "The strong do what they can and the weak bear what they must." If you are alive then it is because of some so called 'injustice' done to a competitor by your ancestor. If they follow their own logic all human beings need to fly the fuck back to bumfuck Ethiopia and commit suicide as remittance for our ancestors surviving and winning at the cost of someone else. I have no interest in any kind of balancing of so-called historical inequity because inequity is the way of the world in a Zero-Sum Game and any such appeal is nothing more than a power grab for the particular Tribal group that espouses it. Believing the world is unfair and that you are the descendant of marginalized victims is the most pathetic, self-loathing Ideology I can think of. If you aren't ashamed of your ancestry there is no way to avoid mental gymnastics and self-loathing by believing in such things.
Had a rough grappling session so gonna avoid typing more, apologies.
The whole La Raza thing must be a Southwest/Cali thing.
My personal experience with legal and illegal Mexicans here in Florida is anything but violent. Very prototypical 'new American' people who are humble, work hard, keep their head down, care for their families, are very pious, save a surprising amount of money, and are typically apolitical. The ones I've been around try their best to have their children learn English and get an education. The worst trouble most get into are stupid blue-collar crimes (DUIs, Suspended license, domestic shit). In fact, most are extra careful in respect to the law because they fear a minor infraction will result in deportation. No gangs, gang culture, etc.
Again, might be a regional thing. Most Mexicans here in West Central FL seem to originate from the rural areas of Mexico. My girl's parents are from Zacatecas and they're all cowboys, ranchers, farmers, etc historically. These people have a romantic attachement to Mexico the people and culture but certainly not the government in its present chaotic and nearly-failed state. In fact, groups like La Raza seem to really turn off 'working' Mexicans; my girl's father even remarks how "uneducated trash make all of us look bad for living here."
Sidenote - girlfriend (1st-gen American) and parents (immigated illegally, but granted amnesty under Reagan - pay taxes, save, work hard, honest-to-goodness 'Americans') hated Trump in the beginning the this cycle, but now have come to see that he's offering a realistic worldview and perspective on things and will now vote for him. So, +3 there.
Quote:Vandals in Venice defaced a memorial to Vietnam War veterans who were Prisoners Of War (POW) or who never returned home because Missing In Action (MIA).
The culprits behind the vandalism are unknown.
According to CBS Los Angeles, the vandalism–consisting of spray-paint placed over the names of those POW or MIA–stretches for “about one hundred feet.” The paint covers hundreds of names of those lost during the war.
Venice Chamber of Commerce chairman George Francisco responded to the vandalism by saying the graffiti is “a desecration.” Francisco said, “I’ve known the sacrifice these people made in an incredible unpopular war. [And] to continue the mistreatment of Vietnam veterans is somewhat shocking; somewhat shocking and quite sad.”
Francisco worked to bring a replica of the Washington DC Vietnam War Memorial to Venice in March. His father was a combat vet in the war.
Above the paint, the memorial’s words still appear: “You Are Not Forgotten. 2,273 POW/MIAs Still Unaccounted for in Southeast Asia.”
The LAPD says it “is not actively investigating” the vandalism.
(05-28-2016 01:11 PM)GlobalMan Wrote: Vandals in Venice defaced a memorial to Vietnam War veterans who were Prisoners Of War (POW) or who never returned home because Missing In Action (MIA).
The culprits behind the vandalism are unknown.
Basic investigative work here.
Find out what the tagging handle is from the piece. With this type of high profile incident it's doubtful the tagged handle is ffrom the actual tagger with that name who did it or it's a completely new invented handle.
If it's an existing handle then it's most likely done by someone he had beef with and is trying to fuck him over. Find who out from the enemies list is and narrow it down to a list of suspects. Mark each one off according to daily alibi.
I'm sure they would eventually find the person responsible.
This election truly is the United States last stand. I can't imagine the amount of damage Clinton will be able to do in four years.
- Supreme Court position will probably go to a dyke with a shaved head.
- Hostilities with Russia, if not all out war.
- Probably another 3 countries in the Mid East will go the way of Syria, Libya, Iraq.
- America overrun by illegals who are essentially promised citizenship and benefits. Democrats will own the voting base forever
If I lived in the States it would be Trump or a move to South America.
(Ironic that a racist Trump supporter such as myself would be happy to move somewhere like South America, while all the SJWs threaten Canada)