Post: #1

Ok, strange request. (and before you ask no, it's not me)

Had a married friend come clean to me the other night about him being in a relationship with a single woman he needs rid of. He cannot break it off easily as she doesn't know he's married and she's vaguely unstable mentally. He is worried she'd lose her shit, try to blow up his marriage and/or hurt herself.

So dude wants some dirt on her, in order to try to break cleanly as "her fault" he basically asked that I try to meet her and come on to her and get the goods. As a married guy with a few plates its simply not something I could do for him. So what I've come up with is the idea of hiring a high end professional escort for this.

This would be a longer engagement, maybe multi-week to build trust - my friend is willing to pay really good money to get this done. It would require exquisite coordination. It should go something along the lines of setting up a "happenstance" meeting of the two at her gym (she's in amazing shape) and trust building etc.

Friend just wants some sms trails, as a minimum potentially proof of meetings or of the bang too. This is a mission for a sauve player somewhere in his mid to late thirties up to say 50 or so, ability to display high value etc. Friend is willing to even sponsor the right person's high-end gym membership for this purpose. This is a fairly class broad, SMV 7-8 (age adjusted), in terrific shape, well put together etc.

Ok so we're in the SF Bay area - any ideas, comments and or suggestions appreciated. Anyone who has done this before, been in the same predicament, has ideas - seriously friend is beside himself on this one. Hell anyone know of a good male escort service?

I have my flame proof suit on, I know this isn't the best way to build rep here - but this is a community of good guys that might have some good, instructive advice for the situation.

Post: #2

Why doesn't he just anti-game her?

If he knows about game, and the fundamental principles that attract women; have him do the exact opposite. She will break up with him within a month, especially if she is high value and has options.

Some ideas:
Start dressing terrible, '
Embarrass her in front of her friends,
Tell her you plan to quit high status job for low status one
Start being super needy,
Be terrible in bed (just quit in the middle and say you are too emotional right now to make love),
Constantly talk about your problems and how you cannot solve them and need help (from her),
Neglect hygiene/apperance,
etc

Post: #3

The issue is that he's a situational alpha - big guy, ripped late 40's, well dressed, well paid - in essence someone who should be a natural but kind of isn't.

(06-03-2015 08:10 AM)HenryHill Wrote:  Why doesn't he just anti-game her?

If he knows about game, and the fundamental principles that attract women; have him do the exact opposite. She will break up with him within a month, especially if she is high value and has options.

Post: #4

He could let his physical appearance go for a while.

Gain weight, dress badly, not groom himself, be slovenly. He could even hire
a makeup artist to make himself look extra ugly.

Then the girl might just leave on her own.

Then he can get back in shape and start looking good again.

Post: #5

chicks, especially ones already versed in deception and sneaking around can smell when things are off. She will sense something is weird under your plan. Anti game is probably a better choice. Your buddy is going to have to get fat, smelly and offensive. Price to pay for carelessly fucking around while married.

I heard a good saying to fit the context of this "there is no bloodless altar" aka, there is no reward without sacrifice. He's going to have to take a hit in one way or another.

Post: #6

He can't just make really crude passes at her best friend or get senselessly drunk at her sister's baby shower? Hire a PI *(cheaper than a gigolo)* since she's probably fucking around anyway?

Does your buddy think he drops such mad dick that there's nothing he could do that would force her to leave?

Post: #7

I'm in the Bay Area but too young for the job.

Sadly it sounds fun.


I think it'll be easier to just have him let himself go, act slobby and be needy then to try to set her up as a cheater. He might almost fuck himself over more by getting her into a state where she tries to rationalize cheating, stalks him and ends up finding out he's married.

Dumping a girl raises his SMV, he needs to lower it to the point where she doesnt care anymore

Post: #8

Ripped in his 40s to fat slob. Dang that is gonna be a price.

Hate to be a dick, but the guy wants an unstable chick pawned off onto some other guy?

Better bring in a foreigner who goes back to his country.

This sounds like a professional "love" assassin thing. With secret bank accounts and wiring money from suitcases like the movie.

Just messing around good luck!

Post: #9

Why doesn't he just stalk her back? Like do some crazy shit like go to her job with a bunch of flowers, constantly call her (hourly if necessary), or show up at her house unannounced in the middle of the night. I mean go full stalker beta. Nothing dries up pussy like a guy obsessed with her. Gotta turn the tables on her.

Post: #10

Best Of The Manosphere: How to Un-Pick Up Girls

Post: #11

The discussion is excellent, fuck I love this forum.

Post: #12

This is absurd. She doesn't know he's married so I'm assuming he keeps her pretty separate from his personal life.

Just fucking ghost her. Have your buddy tell her its over and stop calling or responding to texts whatever. It's shitty but way better than ruining your body or turning into a sloppy piece of shit just to break up with a girl. "Mental instability" or not - she'll get over it. They all do. She'll be an alpha widow but whatever.

Unless he's an idiot she shouldn't know where he lives or be able to touch his personal shit that could sabotage his marriage and livelihood.

Post: #13

He should take her on a suprise trip to Dubai to meet his "friends" there

Post: #14

Too complicated. Just use anti-game and be distant and take pre-emptive legal action. It's pretty easy to lose any woman with the right behavior in a short amount of time.

Post: #15

(06-03-2015 03:09 PM)Akula Wrote:  He should take her on a suprise trip to Dubai to meet his "friends" there

Call little dark, set up some argument and little dark will save the day and she will fall in love with him. Problem solved.

Post: #16

Damn just tell him to put up his hands and walk away.

Turning into a fat beta slob at late 40's is perhaps the dumbest shit I have ever heard. Essentially keep stringing this girl on for 6 months while you get fat and chances are she will still want his D anyways.

Guys, just do what women do to men every day. Flake. At least then they are speaking the same language.

I don't think modern women even cry anymore, I am pretty sure they just go out and try to bang your friends when they get dumped.

Post: #17

Guys suggesting that he let himself go to get rid of her are forgetting that he's also got his wife/marriage to tend to.

We all know that game doesn't cease in an LTR/marriage. This is no different.

Also, he's not a method actor, just a dood who wants to wash his hands of the situation.

Post: #18

Delete

Post: #19

Has your friend considered telling the girl he's moving for work? Has she been to his place? Does she know his full name? If the answers are no, change the phone number, problem solved.

Otherwise you could test the waters by dropping off the grid for a while.

Post: #20

Post: #21

This is easy. Have him arrange dinner with her at a classy restaurant that he never plans on going to ever again. And stage having a meltdown over the phone with a 'business partner'. Let his business partner be the one to call him. Have him act like he is in deep shit, panic, and freak out, make up a financial loss of xxx,xxx. Have him say 'I gotta go, lay-low' for a while.

And then when she texts him, have him implicate her and say 'We're fucked!', and she will say 'we?', and tell her it's best if they don't see each other because he's in deep trouble, has to 'restructure'.

Western Women are will be disgusted by this lack of frame, and will be put off by his fear, and financial distress.

Also, when he meets her, have him have his hair disheveled, as if they were talking about a prior situation, and it left him stressed.

Post: #22

(06-03-2015 07:40 PM)Nightwing Wrote:  This is easy. Have him arrange dinner with her at a classy restaurant that he never plans on going to ever again. And stage having a meltdown over the phone with a 'business partner'. Let his business partner be the one to call him. Have him act like he is in deep shit, panic, and freak out, make up a financial loss of xxx,xxx. Have him say 'I gotta go, lay-low' for a while.

And then when she texts him, have him implicate her and say 'We're fucked!', and she will say 'we?', and tell her it's best if they don't see each other because he's in deep trouble, has to 'restructure'.

Western Women are will be disgusted by this lack of frame, and will be put off by his fear, and financial distress.

Also, when he meets her, have him have his hair disheveled, as if they were talking about a prior situation, and it left him stressed.

He could then talk about moving in with her while he rebuilds his finances.

Post: #23

Come on guys, this is too easy.

He's in SF, the chick is probably a liberal Democrat.

He should just tell her he's finallly "found himself" and has to "live his truth" that he is gay.

The rules of political correctness will require that she has to be accepting and help him celebrate his new, far superior life. She will probably be angry and disgusted but will have to suppress this because it is socially a major faux pas. What is she going to do, harass him because he's gay? The horror! The cognitive dissonance will make her slink away quietly

Post: #24

Have him "come out" to her - as a gay man. "Extraordinarily gay. Steeped in gayness."

Post: #25

(06-03-2015 07:53 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(06-03-2015 07:40 PM)Nightwing Wrote:  This is easy. Have him arrange dinner with her at a classy restaurant that he never plans on going to ever again. And stage having a meltdown over the phone with a 'business partner'. Let his business partner be the one to call him. Have him act like he is in deep shit, panic, and freak out, make up a financial loss of xxx,xxx. Have him say 'I gotta go, lay-low' for a while.

And then when she texts him, have him implicate her and say 'We're fucked!', and she will say 'we?', and tell her it's best if they don't see each other because he's in deep trouble, has to 'restructure'.

Western Women are will be disgusted by this lack of frame, and will be put off by his fear, and financial distress.

Also, when he meets her, have him have his hair disheveled, as if they were talking about a prior situation, and it left him stressed.

He could then talk about moving in with her while he rebuilds his finances.

Yeah, after he tells her about the restructuring, he can change his idea, and tell her with a delayed text: ''on second thought, you mind if I move in with you?''. He first changes his mind, which women hate, he becomes clingy, and asks a question that lowers his value, and puts her on the spot.

Ask if he could borrow a few hundred thousand.

Yeah, San Francisco is like the flower in hair capital, so I guess he could feign gaiety.