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(06-07-2015 05:26 PM)demolition Wrote: I came across this article earlier today and I was just singularly amazed at how non-objectionable this article was, and yet how uniform the SJW narrative was in the comments section:From a curious glance at the comments section I am surprised at how similar they all are. It seems to me this is a well-organized attack and not some random group of people voicing their opinions. We are well on our way to 2+2=5.
http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/jenn...1506040047
The article basically asserts the common sense that Jenner is a man. Meanwhile take a look at the comments: Are people really this psychotic? This utterly milquetoast article is called 'hateful' or 'oozing with hate' by a majority of commenters there. Being this ignorant and psychologically damaged should disqualify you from being considered a human being (hell, half these people want to be considered 'animals' to begin with).
(06-07-2015 06:55 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote: I'm shocked at how utterly-normalised this tranny crap has become in the space of under two years. There was an article in my paper yesterday about a child in 3rd class (8 years old) at a Catholic School who had decided to become a girl, and now the school, the government and some kind of 'Gender Diversity Clinic' from one of the big hospitals here were all supporting the child - a boy running in races against other girls - and shaming the parents for their transphobia.
It's simply an avalanche on the topic. Where is all this coming from? Or it is all coming from Feminist and Lesbian parents trying to turn their boys into girls because of Evil Penis?
Now the idea that what was previously considered a mental illness is simply 'a choice' by all right thinkers, this gives them their foot in the door to normalise pedophilia. Look at Mattress Girl's mother linking to her daughter naked and having sex without shame. Progressives have no boundaries.
Quote:Pedophilia: A Disorder, Not a Crime
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(06-07-2015 06:55 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote: I'm shocked at how utterly-normalised this tranny crap has become in the space of under two years. There was an article in my paper yesterday about a child in 3rd class (8 years old) at a Catholic School who had decided to become a girl, and now the school, the government and some kind of 'Gender Diversity Clinic' from one of the big hospitals here were all supporting the child - a boy running in races against other girls - and shaming the parents for their transphobia.
It's simply an avalanche on the topic. Where is all this coming from? Or it is all coming from Feminist and Lesbian parents trying to turn their boys into girls because of Evil Penis?
Now the idea that what was previously considered a mental illness is simply 'a choice' by all right thinkers, this gives them their foot in the door to normalise pedophilia. Look at Mattress Girl's mother linking to her daughter naked and having sex without shame. Progressives have no boundaries.
(06-08-2015 10:33 AM)Goldhawkstar Wrote: I understand that extreme accusations would be pointless (like "If Johnny smiles at a girl on the playground, then when he grows up he'll make hundreds of rape/sex tapes"), but there's also a lot of truth that comes from the slippery slope argument, especially with what AnonymousBosch and Zelcorpion are saying.
(06-08-2015 04:28 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:(06-08-2015 10:33 AM)Goldhawkstar Wrote: I understand that extreme accusations would be pointless (like "If Johnny smiles at a girl on the playground, then when he grows up he'll make hundreds of rape/sex tapes"), but there's also a lot of truth that comes from the slippery slope argument, especially with what AnonymousBosch and Zelcorpion are saying.
I'm not using a Slippery Slope argument at all. I've observed and noted the way this process of progressive normalisation happens since I was a teenager, and have watched it infiltrate and destroy every traditional power structure ever since. During my degree studies, I studied Cultural Marxism, (and heard Feminists at the time talk about it endlessly), which was designed to destroy traditional power structures effectively, but which now - twenty-five years later - apparently doesn't exist and is just some 'Right wing nutjob conspiracy theory'.
So, when I say pedophilia is coming, it's not a slippery slope. It's noticing the very tactics designed to infiltrate, subvert and normalise Correct Thought - the very arguments that has convinced society that a man putting on a dress makes him 'a woman' in under two years, when we already had the word Transvestite for this, (and no-one ever considered a Transvestite an actual woman) - starting to enter the mainstream dialogue via powerful media structures such as the Huffington Post, the New York Times and Showtime. These think pieces are designed to make the reader reconsider pedophilia.
This is how it starts: New Research Shows they're not Bad People > They can't fight their programming -> we need to have compassion for them -> stigmatised word for pedos replaced with 'enlightened' one -> public shaming for using stigmatised word -> educated people need to be tolerant -> love is love -> support these people or you're ignorant -> you're pedophobic! -> Leftist president sends congratulatory tweet.
Programming people is that easy: most people are herd animals living in fear of social ostracism and have no fixed beliefs. A large component I'd consider Thought-Avoidant, they simply want thought dictated to them. They'll readily except 2+2=5, because they have no interest in doing any math themselves. Just pat them on the head and tell them what a clever child they are.
Now, notice what is happening with transexuality: children are being allowed to make huge life decisions about their sexual future before they even hit puberty.
If I was eight years old, and decided I wanted to be a robot, no-one would entertain the idea for a second. Why is a young boy wanting to be a girl being taken any more seriously by parents and doctors, other than the fact the parents stand to gain massive narcissistic supply from others recognising what Good, Progressive Parents they are, particularly when there's mountains of evidence that show transitioning doesn't ease the gender confusion and often ends in suicide?
I believe the endgame here is about normalising young children being allowed to have legal control over their sexual choices despite their parents wishes. This will set the precedent to allow them to enter into sexual relationships with adult partners, should they choose to do so.
Quote:According to the website, “the Virtuous Pedophiles forum provides a place where paedophiles can discuss living with their attraction, but with the shared understanding that sexual activity with children is wrong and that we are not trying to make it more acceptable.”
Mr Devin explains that the stigma of paedophilia often “prevents many paedophiles from seeking treatment, which leads to more molestation.”
“Many paedophiles suffer from things like self-hate and low self esteem. Many are even suicidal. They view themselves as monsters for their sexual thoughts, even if they don’t act on those sexual thoughts. I wanted them to have access to help,” Mr Devin explains.
Quote:“I do not think anyone’s attraction to children is a choice. My attraction to children is not a choice. I wish I was not attracted to children,” Mr Devin says.
Quote:The problem for her, and it was a BIG PROBLEM, was that the narrator in the story, was in fact, an underage girl. My friend indicated, based on the use of language in the narration, that this girl was likely no more than 12 or 13 years of age. I made mention that the girl in the story was actually getting ready to graduate college. My friend, a woman with years of experience as a clinical psychologist, whose expertise I had personally witnessed a number of times over the years, shook her head and told me that she would not be able to convince me by simply talking about it. She said I should read the book myself, but do so with the eyes of somebody whose job it had been for many years to try and protect children. As someone who has seen over and over the signs of abuse, and the damages of abuse. Because there are always warning signs. I know that. How many times have I heard people horrified in saying "I can't believe I didn't see that" "How couldn't I have known?" Or even worse, "I knew something wasn't right but I didn't want to believe they were capable of doing something like that."
Quote:The female character has no sexual experience. None. She is given the age of 21, but that age is itself a cover. Her true emotional age is much-much younger. She has never even masturbated. She has never even experienced an orgasm. That alone is one of the greatest attractions to the pedophile. That is the psychology of that kind of act. You get off on taking purity.
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(06-09-2015 06:15 AM)aphelion Wrote: The idea that 50 Shades is covert pedo stuff is absolute nonsense. Grown women talk like that all the time. Reference mattress girl's Facebook messages for starters.
(06-09-2015 10:59 AM)Menace Wrote: Almost nothing big happens in America without someone profiting from it. I think it may be the American way. So, these large pushes for gay-marriage and transgender acceptance: who is making the money and how much? How is gay-marriage and transgender acceptance monetized? Generally, to make a lot of money you need to market to either the very rich or the poor. What product or service are the interests behind these movements trying to get us to buy? I'm really curious.
Quote:This shoot was about my life and who I am as a person. It’s not about the fanfare….”
— Caitlyn (formerly Bruce) Jenner
It was, perhaps, only coincidental that the shy, elderly, Olympic decathlon champion and Wheaties box icon ended up on the cover of America’s glossiest glossy magazine attended by a squadron of make-up artists, costumers, publicists, drapers, lighting designers, endocrinologists, agents, and managers under the direction of supreme photographic commander Annie Liebowitz. And, perhaps, another coincidence that the E! Network is producing an eight-part reality show (“docu-series”) on the journey of America’s new transgender sweetheart from sweaty, hairy, testosterone-jacked athlete to air-brushed pin-up “girl.” I guess fanfare is sometimes just the unexpected cherry-on-top of life’s big creamy cake.
But doesn’t it all raise the question: why is it so important for the nation’s cultural stage managers to make the case that a life of sexual confusion is the highest-and-best way of being in this world? It’s everywhere. A day does not pass lately when The New York Times fails to run a front-page story about the triumph of transgender life. One easy theory might be that old chestnut about folks out on the “cutting edge” always needing a new way to épater le bourgeois, shock and horrify the middle class (into the recognition of their pathetic, mind-numbing dullness.) Maybe the middle class doesn’t have enough to think about with keeping a step ahead of the re-po man, or being billed $30,000 to give birth in a hospital, or working 70 hours a week.
The best explanation (not mine originally), may be that in a “liminal” moment of history, when great scary trends and events trigger society’s existential dread, all kinds of boundaries dissolve. And sex, being among the humanity’s most compelling drives, fraught with heavy cultural regulation, ends up being the means of expression for our collective anxiety over the dissolution of things. It also happens that America today is at once an exceptionally pornified society and an exceptionally puritanical one. Rome under Caligula did not have the internet, enabling 12-year-olds to spectate on every imaginable sex act. But neither did the witch-obsessed settlers of the Massachusetts Bay Colony have the equivalent of the young woman (Emma Sulkowicz by name) who idiotically lugged a mattress around the Columbia University campus as a combination political protest / senior art project to draw attention to her dubious rape case (which was dismissed by Columbia’s own administrative kangaroo court).
The tension between these forces of extreme prurience and extreme Puritanism must be immense, probably intolerable, especially for the young who, even in the most settled times, are beset by insecurity over their sexual development — of how to grow into a man or a woman in the world. It’s also interesting that we want to talk about “sexuality” all the time — if media chatter can be taken for public “conversation” — but only in highly circumscribed ways. Overstep the conventional thinking du jour, and you invite a tsunami of censorious opprobrium… which I will now proceed to do.
For instance, I would propose the theory that homosexuality is lately promoted as a desirable way of being in the world because it allows those who behave that way to avoid and escape a primary source of tension in human life: the difficult relations between men and women. These tensions inevitably fluoresce in adolescence, and so now the choice is offered to opt out. I’d expect gay opinion to argue that opting into that way of being in the world actually generates greater tensions and torments, and that may indeed be so — but it is often the case with avoidance behavior that it invites unhappy complications.
I would also propose that the Caitlyn (Bruce) Jenner spectacle represents “peak transgender.” Now that the culture stage managers have made the point that the paragon of maleness — a ten-sport Olympic champion — can opt late in life to become a simulacrum of femaleness (with strange overtones of sexual availability, but to whom, or to what?), there’s nowhere further to go… we finally come to the actual long-sought edge of the cutting edge and drop off into an abyss.
Or maybe this is all just the result of life’s supreme test: keeping up with the Kardashians. After all those years of slip-sliding in Clinique Anti-blemish solution and L’Oreal True Match, poor Bruce just caved, surrendered, resorted to the tactic that could tempt even the most driven competitor: if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.
All right, now I will step aside and endure all the punishment I have invited for venturing to have some opinions on these matters.