Post: #26

(05-27-2011 02:36 PM)Tommy Wrote:  I would never settle with a woman before having atleast 100 unique bangs in my history list.

god dammit now you've made me depressed. Reading things like this - when all I want is to be able to pursue a relationship with a woman of reasonable attractiveness and my choosing, and can't - ugh.

It's jealousy. You all think nothing of what other men consider beyond even their wildest dreams, speaking dispassionately of your endless trails of one-night stands and broken relationships, while others struggle through the brutal grind of modern life in the faint hope of scraping together a few semblances of female kindness and affection. You refer to those terrible beta days, when you only had a few long-term relationships, or sex once a week, little realizing that others would kill for those opportunities which you so disdain. Despite your claims, few of you have ever really had trouble with women, as you've always been able to secure some form of female attentions. And those of you who have been there, who do know the horrors of loneliness, of isolation, of desperation, show little or no sympathy towards those who are still trapped. This is what makes them angry. This is what inspires a hate so virulent. It is the hate of the weaker man to the stronger man, the inferior to the superior, the rage of impotency, the madness of powerlessness. This is the nightmare from which we cannot awake.

It's hard on my self-confidence to keep coming here and reading about such "troubles" when I still have nothing to show for my efforts. But unlike most haters, I'm smart enough to know that I can also learn something from these people. If Roosh could do it, then I, being much better off than he was at the time, can do it as well. And that is why I keep trying.

Post: #27

Are we looked down upon? I had no idea. Do we really care?

Post: #28

Anything that increases male power at sacrifice of feminine power will get attacked.

Men having choices in the dating market mean women will have to fight harder to keep men. They don't like that.

Post: #29

(05-30-2011 11:33 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Are we looked down upon? I had no idea. Do we really care?

Exactly. Having less competition works in our favour.

Post: #30

The dudes who complain want to feel better about themselves and WISHED they did the things that you single guys are doing. I am pretty much settled down (somewhat) and the married dudes have OFTEN told me how they WISHED they did all the things I did before slowing down.

Post: #31

I don't think all players and bachelors get looked down upon. Hell, look at Hugh Hefner this guy gets respect all over the place. I think it has to do with how you carry yourself and being unapologetic about your choices. Most people I know are jealous and/or curious about the lifestyle.

Post: #32

(05-30-2011 11:10 AM)thecrazyfool Wrote:  

(05-27-2011 02:36 PM)Tommy Wrote:  I would never settle with a woman before having atleast 100 unique bangs in my history list.

god dammit now you've made me depressed. Reading things like this - when all I want is to be able to pursue a relationship with a woman of reasonable attractiveness and my choosing, and can't - ugh.

It's jealousy. You all think nothing of what other men consider beyond even their wildest dreams, speaking dispassionately of your endless trails of one-night stands and broken relationships, while others struggle through the brutal grind of modern life in the faint hope of scraping together a few semblances of female kindness and affection. You refer to those terrible beta days, when you only had a few long-term relationships, or sex once a week, little realizing that others would kill for those opportunities which you so disdain. Despite your claims, few of you have ever really had trouble with women, as you've always been able to secure some form of female attentions. And those of you who have been there, who do know the horrors of loneliness, of isolation, of desperation, show little or no sympathy towards those who are still trapped. This is what makes them angry. This is what inspires a hate so virulent. It is the hate of the weaker man to the stronger man, the inferior to the superior, the rage of impotency, the madness of powerlessness. This is the nightmare from which we cannot awake.

It's hard on my self-confidence to keep coming here and reading about such "troubles" when I still have nothing to show for my efforts. But unlike most haters, I'm smart enough to know that I can also learn something from these people. If Roosh could do it, then I, being much better off than he was at the time, can do it as well. And that is why I keep trying.

I'll let you know when I hit 100.

(Most of us had trouble with women at one point or another. You realize that's why roosh's blog and this forum exist right?)

Sorry, but this self-pitying makes me want to gag. You act as if no one has ever dealt with extreme hardship before. I'm a bit insulted.

Post: #33

(05-30-2011 06:14 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  The dudes who complain want to feel better about themselves and WISHED they did the things that you guys are doing.

Post: #34

azulsombra -

"Hell, look at Hugh Hefner this guy gets respect all over the place."

Unique case.

Plus, it too him 50 years or so to get mainstream respect.

And that was more due to his enemies dying off from old age, and the younger generations getting exposed to more and more hardcore sex stuff.

Hell, these days Hef seems almost like a wholesome guy. That is how far things have changed.

He is a G though.

Did tons for racial relations as well.

Post: #35

(05-29-2011 06:43 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Nah. Most of my friends don't go out and try to game women. dunno bout prostitutes tho

This is because they can't, not because they don't want to.

Post: #36

(06-01-2011 12:39 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(05-29-2011 06:43 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Nah. Most of my friends don't go out and try to game women. dunno bout prostitutes tho

This is because they can't, not because they don't want to.

Oh, you mean they are hypocrites because they would game women if they could but do not. probably true

Post: #37

Quote:god dammit now you've made me depressed. Reading things like this - when all I want is to be able to pursue a relationship with a woman of reasonable attractiveness and my choosing, and can't - ugh.

Don't be hard on yourself--lots of men are not into the 100 woman thing. Of course a board like this selects for those that think that's the only way to be, much like a board about wealth acquisition would select for those who believe all people secretly want to be rich, they're just too scared or dumb to focus on it--the obviously most important goal.

The most important thing to know if you are sentimental and soft--besides the fact the world would even more hellish without people like you--is to GET TO EE OR ASIA AND SEE FOR YOURSELF. You will find your kindness is not viewed with horror as it is in Bushland. Reflect on what kind of country picked such an arrogant, unaccomplished buffoon as their LEADER. The IGNORANCE.

I still remember thirty years on the agonized sadness on the face of a girl I gamed when I was 20 when she realized I had been toying with her.

Women frequently cue me, but I'm not into one night stands except in unusual circumstances. I do not want to be the one associated with that humiliated, sad look on someone's face. Just my preferences, not judging anyone.

I guess if you just hammer home you're a player right from "go" you can avoid that. Somehow I suspect the 100-woman men tend to conveniently leave that part out.

Some people are just hard-wired differently in my opinion, and no way is right or wrong. If you want to get in really deep to the neurochemical substrates of personality I recommend a researcher named Cloninger. He postulated a personality trait called "reward-dependence."

Some of us like being strongly attached to, and in mutually dependent relationships with our sex partners.

Game for us soft hearted "losers" is just a way to find the best level of person with whom to form strong bonds.

Post: #38

Sometimes I feel bad for playing a girl to get some ass. Then I think of all the times I was used by females and had my head messed with. That's just me though. This game's not for everyone.

Post: #39

I actually had a revelation about game the other day. I was reviewing my "notch count" (for me a notch is when a girl seems to be interested in me, though my estimate's nowhere near accurate as I am notoriously bad at picking up on signs of interest, to the point where other people comment on it) and realized that I had a higher count BEFORE I started employing game than afterwards. It turns out, as I learned from a female friend, that what I thought was being aloof and disinterested came across as stiff, cold and distant. Someone said that the highest level of game is being yourself, and I think this may have something to do with it.

ADHD males are notorious for being successful with the ladies despite being a little eccentric, because of their sense of humor, charisma, and just generally being "fun." Every ADHD guy I've ever known has never had any women trouble, myself being the exception. But I've found that, with my depression out of the picture, I can channel that natural charisma like the others. For me, I think running "game" is like taking steroids instead of working out - sure, you'll be more "alpha," but at what cost? Why go for artificially generated "charisma" when I can effortlessly access the real thing? I think I'm going to try going "game-free" for a while and see which ends up working better: "artificial" game, which got me rejected with zero notches, or depression-free ADHD "natural" game. From the times I've tested it so far in NYC, it's extremely good at taking down a woman's defenses - even the fieriest Latina girl or sassiest black woman is smiling and laughing within 30 seconds or so. Which makes me happy, naturally. More research is required!

Post: #40

(06-03-2011 11:37 PM)thecrazyfool Wrote:  I actually had a revelation about game the other day. I was reviewing my "notch count" (for me a notch is when a girl seems to be interested in me, though my estimate's nowhere near accurate as I am notoriously bad at picking up on signs of interest, to the point where other people comment on it) and realized that I had a higher count BEFORE I started employing game than afterwards. It turns out, as I learned from a female friend, that what I thought was being aloof and disinterested came across as stiff, cold and distant. Someone said that the highest level of game is being yourself, and I think this may have something to do with it.

ADHD males are notorious for being successful with the ladies despite being a little eccentric, because of their sense of humor, charisma, and just generally being "fun." Every ADHD guy I've ever known has never had any women trouble, myself being the exception. But I've found that, with my depression out of the picture, I can channel that natural charisma like the others. For me, I think running "game" is like taking steroids instead of working out - sure, you'll be more "alpha," but at what cost? Why go for artificially generated "charisma" when I can effortlessly access the real thing? I think I'm going to try going "game-free" for a while and see which ends up working better: "artificial" game, which got me rejected with zero notches, or depression-free ADHD "natural" game. From the times I've tested it so far in NYC, it's extremely good at taking down a woman's defenses - even the fieriest Latina girl or sassiest black woman is smiling and laughing within 30 seconds or so. Which makes me happy, naturally. More research is required!

You probably just need to play more to your natural strengths. You can game with a high-energy fun guy, party boy type of vibe or a more chill, laid-back style, both of which can be used successfully in a number of different situations. Since the former is closer to your natural tendencies you'll probably be more successful if you concentrate on developing that skillset first. Choose venues that reward that kind of game, like loud, crowded house parties, bars, and clubs.

I agree that thinking too much about the pickup while you're gaming a girl can be counterproductive if you get inside your own head too much. The most important thing is to have fun and people will naturally gravitate to you and want to share in that. I don't think it ever hurts to have a working knowledge of game concepts and female psychology though.

Post: #41

I still go by that old Roosh quote: "If women rewarded men who worshipped them, then maybe my first book would have been titles Compliment & Cuddle instead of Bang, but they don't." Frankly, I would prefer to have stayed in the wonderful world that I imagined with perfect love with a perfect romantic girl. Does such a world exist? Alas, no. Thus I adapt. When women I meet start being lovable romantic figures, I will go back to "normal".

Post: #42

All males want to get laid all of the time by as many women as possible. The only difference is how good of a job each one is doing at it.

The ones "looking down" are just liars. Most married men with subpar game, and money, bang hookers.