Post: #26

I've had girls ask me : ''did you take the red pill'' ? Or - ''Are you red pill''?

Surprises me because it's not something that's very mainstream here.
At the same time, I realize they must just love alpha cock, and thats why they are familiar with the term.

Post: #27

(04-30-2015 02:13 PM)FrenchCanadian Wrote:  I've had girls ask me : ''did you take the red pill'' ? Or - ''Are you red pill''?

Surprises me because it's not something that's very mainstream here.
At the same time, I realize they must just love alpha cock, and thats why they are familiar with the term.

NEVER discuss game with your girlfriend or admit you are red pill in any way shape or form.

Right up there with never admitting you cheated.

Post: #28

(04-30-2015 02:40 PM)Saruman Wrote:  NEVER discuss game with your girlfriend or admit you are red pill in any way shape or form.

Right up there with never admitting you cheated.

Yes, you shouldn't use terms like that. However, I've got no problem telling women (whether I'm dating them or not) that I'm old school in that I think feminine women are most attractive to masculine men and vice versa. None of this "we're exactly the same" bullshit that society tries to push on us. I get very little if any pushback when I word it this way. I also get great behaviour from them around me.

Post: #29

(04-29-2015 12:52 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  The thing that annoys me is that she had feminist sort of beliefs without identifying as one.

This is most women today. The overwhelming majority of women will look you straight in the eye and tell you they aren't a feminist, then proceed to spout feminist bullshit immediately after.

Post: #30

(04-30-2015 09:59 PM)Other Barry Wrote:  This is most women today. The overwhelming majority of women will look you straight in the eye and tell you they aren't a feminist, then proceed to spout feminist bullshit immediately after.

Funny, I find it's the opposite. Most women tell me they are a feminist, but then proceed to be old-fashioned, let me take charge, etc. Maybe it's just the college girls who identify as feminist though?

Post: #31

Hi roc, in my experience, the women that flat out deny being feminist are of a wide age range. I've heard it from younger broads right through to chicks in their 50's and older.

It may be because, in society, the Feminine Imperative is so ingrained that it's just the normal state of affairs.

Post: #32

(04-30-2015 10:14 PM)Other Barry Wrote:  Hi roc, in my experience, the women that flat out deny being feminist are of a wide age range. I've heard it from younger broads right through to chicks in their 50's and older.

It may be because, in society, the Feminine Imperative is so ingrained that it's just the normal state of affairs.

I'm not sure what you mean by your last sentence. Did some googling of the Feminine Imperative, couldn't find a clear definition.

Post: #33

(05-01-2015 07:46 AM)roc_student Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 10:14 PM)Other Barry Wrote:  Hi roc, in my experience, the women that flat out deny being feminist are of a wide age range. I've heard it from younger broads right through to chicks in their 50's and older.

It may be because, in society, the Feminine Imperative is so ingrained that it's just the normal state of affairs.

I'm not sure what you mean by your last sentence. Did some googling of the Feminine Imperative, couldn't find a clear definition.

Here.

http://therationalmale.com/the-best-of-r...-year-one/

Scroll down to the section titled "The Feminine Imperative." This is also known as the Matrix or blue pill conditioning. It is the state of affairs where the feminine (i.e. women) is the operative for everything gender-specific, relationships, sex,marriage, etc. in our world and they do so via multiple social conventions, feminism, victim mentality. Stuff like that. Rollo goes into a lot more detail though. I recommend it.

Post: #34

There's a lot of dumb feminist bitches majoring in journalism out there in medium sized Midwestern towns.

I heard the word "neg" from them maybe two months after I read "The Game" (this was 2010 IIRC) and well before I saw this forum. Salon or HuffPo probably did a big Neil Strauss interview featuring it at the time.

'Negging' causes those insecure dumbshits to completely melt down. It causes them no lack of grief that a man might consider knocking them down a peg. They're also stupid enough to think that since it makes them respond, men like to get negged too.

There's like 20 game elements pioneered in "The Game" but that's the only one anybody gets huffy about.

A few of my friends list on facebook read a lot of the ROK and some of the forum once the "Girls With Short Hair Are Damaged" went viral. Two or three dudes read it and basically affirmed what was written. Good times.

Post: #35

I've never really met a girl who was hip to this stuff on her own, but when my ex-wife and I were still together we watched the 1st season of Mystery's reality show. She totally knew what a neg was after that, and was kind of into the idea that these nerdy loser guys could learn stuff and and have a shot with decent looking women. Despite occasionally running her mouth about feminist crap, she was quite feminine and appreciated when a guy, or girl- just "gets it." We'd talk about that stuff a lot, although back in my more Blueish Pill days I was a bit more careful about what I said. Sometimes she'd go off and dish out the shaming. Typical girl doublethink.

A girl I dated for almost a year after that actually tracked a comment I left on a Roosh article back to an email address of mine (I'd accidently emailed her from the wrong account once, and she googled it or some shit) When she tried to throw the comment in my face a couple months later I dumped her immediately. I was legitimately scared by the level of online stalkery with this one. She'd gone through a lot of private stuff before that as well, and it had gotten to the point where it was a matter of when she'd be nexted. That incident clinched it.
When she came to pick up her stuff a couple days later she totally used Roosh's bathroom trick to get in the house (I'd brought her stuff to the door of my building). I didn't think it was intentional, but even if it wasn't it just goes to show how natural some of this shit is to women. She tried very hard to get me to not break up with her. Took an hour and a half to get her the fuck out. About Roosh, she said "You know he's a rapist right??". I imagined her sitting in her office reading Jezebel, but said nothing. Moments later she was finally gone.

Couple months later at a bar I ran into her. I was friendly. She says something kind of underhanded, but was friendly for the first couple minutes.
Turns out she was on a date, and she made the date stand around and wait while she tried to re-engage our breakup conversation. After tears almost came she resorted to shaming and mockery.

"WHAT?? ARE YOU GONNA USE DREAD GAME?"
"YOU NEED TO STOP READING THAT STUFF!!"
I'm reasonably certain I could've lead her out of the bar, taken her home, and banged her right then. But instead I got up, wished her well, and walked out the door right past date guy who was outside smoking.

(Thing of Charlton Heston laughing)

Post: #36

(01-08-2016 09:16 PM)Hades Wrote:  I heard the word "neg" from them maybe two months after I read "The Game" (this was 2010 IIRC) and well before I saw this forum. Salon or HuffPo probably did a big Neil Strauss interview featuring it at the time.

Of course "Style" is now a reformed sex addict.

Quote:Does he think he was truly a sex addict?

“I believe I had core intimacy and relational issues relating to my family of origin that I worked really hard on. Does that fit the diagnostic criteria for sex addiction? I don’t know.”

...

He sought out a prominent psychiatrist who scanned his brain and determined Strauss had devoted so much intellectual and emotional energy to seducing women that he was still wired to prey.

The game was “so deeply ingrained, you’re not going to be able to just walk out of here and stop it,” the shrink said.

Strauss reluctantly accepted his fate and then indulged it, immersing himself in various polyamory and swinging communities.

He attended spiritual, New-Agey orgies, some less sexy than others (“Flaccid wands and hairy cathedrals were everywhere”); he took Viagra and Ecstasy at an Eyes Wide Shut-themed sex party; he lived in a free love commune in California—a short chapter roughly 300 pages into the book that’s written as a graphic novel.

It’s hard to believe these raucous adventures were motivated purely by soul-searching. Surely some of it was simply color for the story, I suggest.

“No, because a lot of it isn’t even in the book! I really wanted to find a better way to live and be free, but I realized that being free and unattached is a trap. It’s like being a bird that can’t land—at least for me. It’s exhausting.”

The Truth was originally going to be a book about how marriage is anachronistic and monogamy isn’t natural, but that changed as he was writing it.

“I thought it was going to be about how marriage is broken, not that I was broken,” he tells me.

“The Game is a book about trying to heal low self-esteem with the bodies of others, and The Truth is about healing from within,” he adds, slipping into therapy-speak.

...

He’s referring to the infamous manipulative tactics employed in The Game, like “negging” a woman with a backhanded compliment that temporarily lowers her self-esteem and suggests arrogant but appealing disinterest.

“I definitely set a lot of justifications for manipulation that I truly believed at the time!” he says, laughing sheepishly. “Anything you have to justify with some kind of overly logical argument often means there’s no justification for it.”

He used to believe that there were good and bad pick-up artists. “The good ones are shy nerds, and the bad ones are the ones we see in the news—misogynistic, hateful, really damaged.”

...

Does he feel at all responsible for propagating PUA techniques in The Game?

“Certain things are picked up as symbols, and I think The Game just happened to be labeled the douchiest book, maybe deservedly or maybe undeservedly. I can’t tell because I’m too close to it. I’d say the world it describes might deserve that label, but I don’t think the book does.”

Link

Post: #37

The only game tactic that self-proclaimed "aware" women seem to know anything about is the neg. I have seen it plenty of times in snarky abrasive OKC profiles of anti-social feminist types in the "message me if..." section saying they won't respond to "negs."

As was mentioned, the only women who would read this stuff are anti-male bitches looking for more shit to be outraged about. It's hate porn for maladjusted females is all.

Although, with the rise in popularity of the manosphere and people becoming more wise to the negative impact of feminism and what it takes to get girls' attention these days, it would not surprise me that more people, both men and women, start becoming aware of these things. Holy run-on-sentence.

Also, if you run a Google search for "roosh v" the forum is the 5th result on the list.

Post: #38

(04-29-2015 09:31 PM)Ingocnito Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 11:02 AM)southamerica Wrote:  It would be awesome if girls read the forum and started being more attractive and feminine. But I'm tempted to believe that they would promptly leave and start attention whoring on all social media platforms. They wouldn't understand men's logic either. At least they can't come in here and ruin it for everybody.

I had an LTR find out, logged on my old account years back. Dumb bitch didn't learn a fucking thing, just used it as fight fuel down the road.

Women are not logical enough to capture all this and put it cohesively together.

Partially because literally, a TON of game is just breaking men of their inherited habits and cherry picking the pieces of women's behavior that we can mimic and use right back at them.

You might ask;'Why wouldn't a woman be able to figure out how to act like a selfish woman, and realize men are basically just doing that, plus the manly shit?"

I'd respond:"Is any woman even able to figure themselves out?" Fuck no.

Thus, men have the potential to not only exhibit better masculine traits, but some of the neomasculine traits common to women's behavior that they intrinsically do without knowing, and will never even know why they do it besides a baseline of selfishness.

For instance: Abundance mentality, objectifying humans of the opposite sex, frame.. etc. << this is all auto pilot shit for women.

The reason for this is because they don't have to "put it together" in order to get laid or get into a relationship with a guy. A man, in complete contrast, has to run an assault course of tribulations just to be even considered by a frumpy plain Jane. Worse still, a knowledge of Game is quickly becoming a prerequisite for success in the Anglosphere, rather than just a method of optimising bangs, as used to be the case.

Women aren't going to get their heads around the core principles of Game anytime soon, in my opinion, because the idea of their having to exert any effort in order to secure a mate is about as intelligible to them than if I were to propose selling snow to eskimos. They simply can't comprehend the difficulty that even many good-looking guys endure in attracting women, especially so given that they are the primary beneficiaries of a dating market so markedly skewed against men, as it is in the Anglosphere more than anywhere else. The luxury of not having to subject themselves to the harsh tribunal of sexual selection is also the chief reason, in my judgement, for their solipsism and extreme self-centredness, as well as their general inferiority to men in terms of abstract reasoning capacity, on account of the following consideration:

That only by being forced to recognize constraints external to oneself, on pain of starvation - both literal and sexual - is one brought to the point of having to develop an appreciation for the objective state of reality. This is the world that men, especially those who frequent the hallowed halls that are RVF, are more than familiar with. Women, in contrast, have been mostly shielded from the consequences of a failure to acknowledge and act upon such constraints, the result being that they never developed the same refined capacities that would enable their recognition of objective truths that men were forced to develop over millennia.

The situation is entirely analogous to the piss-poor, grouchy service one would have received, had one had the misfortune to wander into a restaurant in East Germany under Communism. If one were to ask the question, "Why have I received such a rude and obnoxious treatment by those supposed to be serving me?", the answer would, of course, have been: Because they don't need to serve you and, because the restaurant is not threatened by any consequences for its shitty behaviour towards its "customers", it knows it can do as it pleases and still get away with it. And so it is with women, especially modern women in the Anglosphere, where a misandric socio-political framework coupled with the abandonment of all societal expectations on women have led to a shit storm of biblical proportions that men now have to face head on in all aspects of their lives.