Post: #1

"Girl Game" is a term that is occasionally mentioned on this forum, but it seems we've rarely/if ever discussed it in greater detail.

Recently, I've ran into a few sort of female "DHVs", or something. Had a date with one girl about a month ago, as soon as we sat down for food/drinks, I asked her what she did last weekend and she said "went on a double date". Now, I'm communicating online with a girl who wrote in her profile "Too be honest, I spend most of my time reading profiles on this site and going on dates!"

What are women trying to do/prove with statements like these? Are they thinking this will make me more attracted to them (a female DHV)? Are they just attention whores who are not interested in me from the start and also trying to disqualify/belittle me? The one that I had the date with came across as kind of game-y and I thought the double date comment was kind of trashy, and she later proved herself to be a lot less friendly and a lot less mature than I had gauged her to be, which is sad because she otherwise gave off the appearance of a happy/friendly/attractive feminine individual.

I've heard of the book "The Rules", but otherwise, what are the tell-tale signs of a game aware female, and what are the tactics/end-goals of Girl Game anyways?

Post: #2

Who cares what girls think. Think for yourself, not for her.

Post: #3

I remember once when out with this girl she mentioned this 'bible' of game for women. She didn't mention it to prove a point, it seemed she just let it slip. I asked her about it and she avoided the topic, enough that I just dropped it and moved on.

Could it be this 'The Rules' you mentioned?

Post: #4

All men's lives will be easier if they internally mute the words coming out of a girl's mouth. Most of the time it is sheer nonsense. Do not for a second underestimate a woman's predisposition to follow the crowd, society, alleged "rules," or whatever dumb shit she read about in Cosmo or blabbed about with her girl friends over brunch.

Lest you think this is an indictment of women, it's not. It's just their nature. I don't blame them for being unduly influenced by media, friends, and/or popular culture because a huge portion of men are similarly influenced; if they weren't, this forum would probably not exist in its current state.

Here are actual female DHV's:

* my man will be my king
* i love to cook for my man
* he will be everything to me in my life
* i have to remain beautiful for my man

These things (or very similar things) have been said to me by women. Not American women, of course. A woman's value add is not her pussy, but her sincere desire to please and serve her man. In exchange, a man will protect and provide for her. That's the real quid pro quo.

Post: #5

It's the new culture where women think we're triggered by the same things we are...great friends, great job, likes to travel, very stable, and to your OP the ability to get attention from the opposite sex.

A woman bragging about picking up guys is like a nerdy computer programmer with no social skills bragging about watching tv eating potato chips alone.

Obviously subconsciously they know we like fuckable girls (makeup suggesting they're fertile), tits (boob jobs, cleavage, etc), and asses (high heels).

I've had a girl play the 'I can get attention from other men' card (not verbally, usually by flirting with another guy and looking over at me). A very easy sign she's not date-able.

Post: #6

(04-24-2015 11:57 AM)heavy Wrote:  It's the new culture where women think we're triggered by the same things we are...great friends, great job, likes to travel, very stable, and to your OP the ability to get attention from the opposite sex.

Exactly. It's classic projection.

Women assume that men think the same way they do, and in OP's case, by bragging about how much they date, the women are attempting to leverage preselection into increasing their attractiveness. Because they would be more attracted to a man who dates lots of women, they assume men in turn are more attracted to women when seen with other men.

Reminds me of a party once in college where an attractive freshman girl and I were talking, and I could tell she was into me because she kept attempting to qualify herself. At one point, a fraternity brother of mine (tall, good-looking, popular) stops by to say hello, and when he leaves the girl turns to me and says excitedly, "Oh, you know Tony? We hooked up a few weeks ago."

I remember quite clearly the look on her face: it was one of accomplishment, like she had just been granted some big award while I was in the audience watching. I didn't have enough game at the time to play it cool, but instead tried to be "nice" and explain to her that sleeping with a buddy of mine made her less attractive, not more. She quickly left, too embarrassed to argue the point, but I could tell by how crestfallen she looked that she had been absolutely certain that pointing out her sexual association with a high-value man would have prompted increased interest on my part.

How women square this projection simultaneously with the knowledge that men generally disdain sluts, I have no idea.

Post: #7

I went out with a girl from Tinder last year and while we were sitting at the bar she said she knew all about how guys gamed women and said she was familiar with the book "the game". She then went on to say how she suspected the bar tender was "such a player". I faked being mildly surprised and asked her how this "whole game thing" worked. Fast forward to about an hour and a half later I'm balls deep in her pussy

Post: #8

I know a girl with pretty solid game. She locked down a guy I know by cooking for him, cleaning for him, paying for his guitar lessons with a well-known guitarist and generally knowing what makes him tick.

Game recognised.

Post: #9

Girl Game is simple and they will find more in the 1980s or before than now.

Currently there is the advice between the bad:





and the outright fucking terrible:

http://elitedaily.com/dating/bitchs-guid...ing-a-man/

Most female advice is terrible - the only thing that they learn for real is to give BJs before marriage. And even that is optional for feminists.

Women are getting currently only bad advice - they don't know how to get a guy.

Quote:The bitch shows that she is not afraid to be without him. If the choice is between her dignity and having a relationship, the bitch will prioritize her dignity above all else. If it appears that you feel disrespected by a man’s actions, he will feel like he has a hold on you. Telling a man no, expressing your own opinions shows self-respect, and he will respect you even more. In conversations, not always agreeing with him makes you even more attractive in his eyes.

So essentially women are getting taught to be assholes. Too bad that we are not into assholes like they are.



Yeah - right - we love bitches indeed - so much better than a hot nice girl, we absolutely adore a hot bitchy one - especially being with her. Even better - boring bitch is the best one:

Post: #10

Asian girls have the best girl game.

Post: #11

^ What makes you say that?

Post: #12

The dozen or so Asian girls, specifically Taiwanese were good conversationbalists

girly, wore dresses
minimal shit tests that seem more like teasing
tight pussy
most are thin
Indicators of interestr easier to read
seemed more logical

Post: #13

Female usually isn't what they think it is. Female DHV's for me:

* Being attractive

* Being obedient as well as sexually and emotionally submissive.

* Not being be bitchy, rude, or dismissive. Giving me little or no shit tests. But instead being warm and emotionally caring.

* Not being needy or clingy.

* Coming to terms with the fact that I will never be monogamous, even though I expect her not to bang any other men. I know it's not fair, but that's what I demand out of a relationship.

* Holding herself to agreed upon standards without complaint. You agreed on the rules after all, and can leave at any time.

* Using some form of verifiable birth control such as: an IUD or sterilization. Agreeing in advance to get an abortion in the event of an unplanned pregnancy. Having papers from a recent STI screening. If she doesn't have papers, then going to the doctor and getting some. That way I can raw dog it without worrying about pregnancy or disease.

* Not trying to use sex as a bargaining chip, and expecting to receive extra: time, money, labor, or commitment just because we banged. Realizing that if we bang it's for both of our benefit and I don't owe you anything.

Post: #14

Girl game is for the most part non-existent.
Have you ever had a girl thirsty for you? Holy shit their "game" is terrible.
Needy, clingy, send millions of restart texts that just say "hey" or "hey haha whats up."
After you don't respond for a few days they start sending random unsolicited snapchats of them in their underwear.

It actually opened my eyes up because I know now just how unattractive that is when somebody acts that way.
I have been guilty of being needy and sending 2 or 3 "heys" in a row with no reply, and now I just cringe when I think of it.

Post: #15

There is such a thing as girl game.

1) "I went on a double date"
- she's oblivious
- she doesn't like guy immediately

Neither of there are considered offensive girl game.
It's defensive game at best, probably more of a default "game", in that girls are always running defense.

2) I spend more time reading profiles
- oblivious
- doesn't like the guy

Not true girl game either.

3) Rules

An urban legend that players tell newbs about. Technically the book exists, but few if any girls follow it to the letter.

There's an entire industry of women advising women on how to deal with men. On top of the profiteers, there women's socialization with each other - the sort of thing that has happened naturally over time in every culture.

4) Is she game aware?

All girls are red pill.
Some girls have heard of "Pick up", a handful have read articles, and a statistically insignificant number have read actual material.

She's generally aware that men are trying to pick her up, but the same way that we're all generally aware that we breath oxygen. It's a part of her life, that she doesn't REALLY think about.

The problem with describing and trying to understand women's game, or their mating strategy, is that you haven't completely absorbed the reality of things.

For most women, sex is easy.
For attractive women, sex with attractive guys is easy.
She can get commitment from lesser men.

But can she get a great man to commit to her AND maintain all of her advantages?

So natural genetics, diet, exercise, grooming, clothing, styling, body language, positioning - all of that is part of EVERY girls upbringing, whether or not she chooses to use it. Typical Matthew effect, if the chick is even somewhat attractive, she'll take the womanly arts like a duck to water.

That's why when you see a beautiful head of hair, chances are high that when the chick turns around you'll be impressed.

But like height or muscles on a male, all that does is garner attention.
She still has to investigate what the guy is about. Then she has to confer with her network, because as they say eggs are expensive and sperm is cheap.

That's where the game gets real for her.

She can attract lots of Brad Pitt clones, but can she pull Brad Pitt.
So she meets him, laughs at his jokes, a little casual contact, some flirting and suggestive language.

He's interested?

For some chicks, that'd be the end of it. She got her little ego boost, and now that this super hot alpha wants her, SHE'S NO LONGER INTERESTED. Clearly he's not as alpha as she thought, other wise he would have dismissed her. He's gullible and pliable like all the rest. Deep down a lot of these chicks want to be dominated, in rapture, total submission, enthralled - and other words you might find in the thesaurus. Every girl is looking for richer, smarter, stronger, taller, more socially connected, more powerful than herself, than other guys...- so the Man in her life is bigger than her life. She doesn't want to drive the car, she wants to sit in the passenger seat (and tell him where to go, and how he's driving lol)

But let's say our Waffle House Waitress in a mini-skirt does fancy this guy.
She lets him lead her back to his place. Gives a good blowjob, but not her absolute best - because she doesn't want to absolutely reveal how much of a whore she truly is. Post climax, when he's most reachable, she wants to break through the ice and get to his emotional center and "connect".

The player gives her that false connection, the alpha might keep up his defenses until she breaks him down further.

So that's where her game kicks into high gear.
She knows, like we all know, her beauty fades and the thrill of sex will wear off.

She needs to bind him to her will.
At the same time, we as players know, that if she manages to do this - she loses interest.

In the long term situation, your primary job is giving her things to do, things to keep her emotional and mental interest - so she keeps working, she keeps investing - until she's yours.

Most young players just getting into the game, will run through their first 10, maybe first 20-30. Then they'll upgrade, meet an 8 who's also cool to hang out with after the bang.

Her game worked.

Even if you're both League of Legends players and bond after fucking with a quick online session - the emotional part will wear off. Whatever cool thing she does, will lose value over time.

If you remain "alpha" or keep some plates spinning, she'll have to keep doing shit to keep you interested, and do a fair amount of self-editing.

But there's only so much time that she has.

What's good, for her at least, most men aren't players.
Most "alphas" are white knights.
Lots of bad boys can be tamed if she stays in there long enough.

What's good for you, is that you understand what's going on.

Being cute, pretty, sexy, thin, cooking, cleaning, nurturing - that's all part of her opening game. That draws you in, it draws many men in.

But even after she's got an audience, she still needs to pick a guy (or a few guys) to play parts in her life. So her middle game is ferreting out the real "men", and her end game is getting them to commit.

And once she has her president or team captain, she's queen of all other women. Because even with the wedding day and the kids, this for her is still a competition with other women.

That's my perspective at least.

WIA

(04-24-2015 11:38 AM)blacknwhitespade Wrote:  I've heard of the book "The Rules", but otherwise, what are the tell-tale signs of a game aware female, and what are the tactics/end-goals of Girl Game anyways?

Post: #16

(05-03-2015 02:12 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  ...
For some chicks, that'd be the end of it. She got her little ego boost, and now that this super hot alpha wants her, SHE'S NO LONGER INTERESTED. Clearly he's not as alpha as she thought, other wise he would have dismissed her. He's gullible and pliable like all the rest. Deep down a lot of these chicks want to be dominated, in rapture, total submission, enthralled - and other words you might find in the thesaurus. Every girl is looking for richer, smarter, stronger, taller, more socially connected, more powerful than herself, than other guys...- so the Man in her life is bigger than her life. She doesn't want to drive the car, she wants to sit in the passenger seat (and tell him where to go, and how he's driving lol)

That's a very limited view on women frankly. What you describe is only a small subset of women during a limited time in their lives. That is the equivalent of a female super-slut in the extreme party years. No matter who she gets, - son of a billionaire with model-looks and massive Game and Alpha-state - she dumps him because she loses interest right when he wants her to stick around?

Those kind of women are utterly and completely broken and serve only as cum-buckets. I doubt that this concerns most women. Even young ones will bond with a strong guy unless they are truly in massive slut phase and even then will they want to become the girlfriend of the local captain or popular frat boy. That LTR may last longer.

Also it is interesting that girls of 8+ caliber try to use their beauty earlier on (around 22-25 already) unless they slip into the female Dark Triad path of prostitution or jet-set-babe lifestyle.

If love and all relationships would look like you described them, then truly there would be no reason to have any bond with any woman.

Post: #17

(05-03-2015 04:07 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(05-03-2015 02:12 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  ...
For some chicks, that'd be the end of it. She got her little ego boost, and now that this super hot alpha wants her, SHE'S NO LONGER INTERESTED. Clearly he's not as alpha as she thought, other wise he would have dismissed her. He's gullible and pliable like all the rest. Deep down a lot of these chicks want to be dominated, in rapture, total submission, enthralled - and other words you might find in the thesaurus. Every girl is looking for richer, smarter, stronger, taller, more socially connected, more powerful than herself, than other guys...- so the Man in her life is bigger than her life. She doesn't want to drive the car, she wants to sit in the passenger seat (and tell him where to go, and how he's driving lol)

That's a very limited view on women frankly. What you describe is only a small subset of women during a limited time in their lives. That is the equivalent of a female super-slut in the extreme party years. No matter who she gets, - son of a billionaire with model-looks and massive Game and Alpha-state - she dumps him because she loses interest right when he wants her to stick around?

Those kind of women are utterly and completely broken and serve only as cum-buckets. I doubt that this concerns most women. Even young ones will bond with a strong guy unless they are truly in massive slut phase and even then will they want to become the girlfriend of the local captain or popular frat boy. That LTR may last longer.

Also it is interesting that girls of 8+ caliber try to use their beauty earlier on (around 22-25 already) unless they slip into the female Dark Triad path of prostitution or jet-set-babe lifestyle.

If love and all relationships would look like you described them, then truly there would be no reason to have any bond with any woman.

Some not all.

But I see your point.

What reason is there to bond with women?

WIA

Post: #18

The reason is an innate human desire to love and be loved.
Is it a bullshit desire that will lead to unhappiness? Most likely.

Post: #19

(05-03-2015 11:56 PM)The_e_man Wrote:  The reason is an innate human desire to love and be loved.
Is it a bullshit desire that will lead to unhappiness? Most likely.

I have lost this sensation with game and scoring with women. Best thing that ever happened to me.

Post: #20

Relevant:
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/

Post: #21

That's right. Real girl game is where a girl has the personality, attitude and looks that guys want.

Such girls are almost never single for a long period of time. And almost all of them get married
by the time they are 27 if they are really serious about it.

Those are the professionals.

Also just because a girl is good at "dating" doesn't mean she has game.

The true test for girl "game" is whether you can get a guy to want to marry you.