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debeguiled · 2016-08-15 17:25:00 · #1826
(08-15-2016 03:23 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Old crazy joe getting frisky with the hag.

Looks like he's checking her for weapons.
budoslavic · 2016-08-15 19:31:00 · #1827
Break out the popcorn, gentlemen.

Quote:CHAFFETZ, GOODLATTE OUTLINE CASE FOR PERJURY AGAINST CLINTON
PUBLISHED: AUG 15, 2016
Chairmen identify specific examples of false statements given before Congress

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) sent a letter to U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia Channing Phillips identifying several examples where Secretary Hillary Clinton’s sworn testimony before Congress is incompatible with evidence collected during the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) investigation into the Secretary’s private email server.

The letter is in response to a Department of Justice letter sent to Chairmen Chaffetz and Goodlatte last week saying the department will “take appropriate action as necessary” on the Chairmen’s request for an investigation into the matter.

The letter states:

“The evidence collected by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) during its investigation of Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal email system during her time as Secretary of State appears to directly contradict several aspects of her sworn testimony, which are described in greater detail below.”

During a House Select Committee on Benghazi hearing on October 22, 2015, Secretary Clinton testified with respect to (1) whether she sent or received emails that were marked classified at the time; (2) whether her attorneys reviewed each of the emails on her personal email system; (3) whether there was one, or more servers that stored work-related emails during her time as Secretary of State; and (4) whether she provided all her work-related emails to the Department of State.

Although there may be other aspects of Secretary Clinton’s sworn testimony that are at odds with the FBI’s findings, her testimony in those four areas bears specific scrutiny in light of the facts and evidence FBI Director James Comey described in his public statement on July 5, 2016 and in testimony before the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform on July 7, 2016.

Full text of the letter can be viewed here.

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Dusty · 2016-08-15 19:42:00 · #1828
   
eskimobobseal · 2016-08-15 20:41:00 · #1829
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Cobra · 2016-08-15 21:03:00 · #1830
I'm not sure that a letter from a couple republican congressmen won't just be written off as typical partisan cannon fire. Is this even worth something? I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
eradicator · 2016-08-15 21:06:00 · #1831
The email server is only one small part of the Clinton puzzle. The Clinton foundation is the real honeypot of corruption.
TravelerKai · 2016-08-16 09:43:00 · #1832
(08-15-2016 09:03 PM)Cobra Wrote:  I'm not sure that a letter from a couple republican congressmen won't just be written off as typical partisan cannon fire. Is this even worth something? I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

You are correct. It's just a gesture. A gesture tantamount to merely asking Director Comey, please do your job and please investigate this perjury.

Remember fellas! Barry Bonds did not ever get in trouble with Major League Baseball for steroid use!

He got into trouble for lying to congress! He either ignored sound legal advice, was ignorant of what Congress could do to him, or maybe both. Either way, never lie to congress if brought in for testimony. It's one of the worse things you could do because Congressmen strongly dislike being lied to and it is one of their few powers they can use to get payback or revenge upon a person. Even people high up in government. It never carries major punishment, but it can destroy your reputation as a person in this country if ever convicted of perjury.

Here is the kicker though. If Comey and others proceed and they find themselves in a position where it is obvious she lied that put the case forward, Hillary would find herself in a extremely embarrassing situation.

I think those odds are probably less than 30%, because she has too many Rep and Dem buddies in Congress that would try to mess this up, not to mention Comey and Lynch are on her side. Also, I think she has enough legal power to deal with this if it came up. It was not like she said, "I never had a private email server." Like how Barry Bonds repeatedly denied that he used steroids. (Note: Bonds likely did this to protect his legacy in hopes he could someday get into the Hall of Fame. Same goes for Roger Clemens)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Bonds_perjury_case

I think the big problem is that Speaker Ryan and too many other Republicans in Congress are in cohorts with Hillary or even Obama. With their majority, technically they should be able to go after alot more than just this, but these days, there is not much difference between the parties. It's more like Starters and The Bench guys.
CynicalContrarian · 2016-08-16 09:54:00 · #1833
Did Fat Albert lose his job?

Hillary’s Handler Disappears From Campaign Trail After Alt-Media Points Him Out

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/...ia-points/

Hillary Clinton’s mysterious handler has disappeared.

In recent bizarre events on the campaign trail a strange man was noticed at Hillary Clinton’s side.

Now this…
Hillary’s mysterious handler has disappeared from the campaign trail.
He’s gone and poor Hillary is on her own.


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Seems he may have been replaced by a stool...
Enoch · 2016-08-16 11:37:00 · #1834
Interesting tidbit from MikeCF twitter for those who don't check twitter:

The reason Hillary won't release her "speeches" to Wall Street Firms - she never gave them!
Cr33pin · 2016-08-16 11:51:00 · #1835


budoslavic · 2016-08-16 19:00:00 · #1836
(08-16-2016 09:54 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Did Fat Albert lose his job?

Hillary’s Handler Disappears From Campaign Trail After Alt-Media Points Him Out

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/...ia-points/

Hillary Clinton’s mysterious handler has disappeared.

In recent bizarre events on the campaign trail a strange man was noticed at Hillary Clinton’s side.

Now this…
Hillary’s mysterious handler has disappeared from the campaign trail.
He’s gone and poor Hillary is on her own.

...
Seems he may have been replaced by a stool...

Yep...Fat Albert was replaced by a piece of an object with four legs and a pin cushion or hard flat surface. Everyone, meet Pantsuit's new handler: Ms. Stool-Chair.
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Meanwhile...Mr. Trump only use a chair to stand on it if necessary. He has a lot of energy and can't sit still.


kbell · 2016-08-16 19:17:00 · #1837
https://twitter.com/hashtag/HillarysStools?src=hash

#hillarysStools is starting to trend.
Disco_Volante · 2016-08-16 19:47:00 · #1838
Democrats are way, way shrewder about understanding power and perception than republicans.

They saw the black guy with the seizure pen was making news, so they immediately removed him from the public eye without hesitation. That's how you have to run a campaign. They take care of their problems very quickly.

I finally saw a Hillary TV ad, it mentioned taxing companies who want to leave US. Literally pulled straight from Trump's ideas. They wouldn't even be talking about it if Trump wasn't so popular.

It's shallow and devious but they are very adept at painting a pretty picture of themselves. I suppose when there's no substance or ethics to your positions you get pretty good at that.
Dusty · 2016-08-16 20:03:00 · #1839
I find this clip very very interesting.

Notice they start off with this diversion showing Biden get out of the limo and greeting the homeowners. This buys time for Shrillary to get out of the car.

Then Shrillary shows up, but you never see her get out of the car (probably struggles and needs help). She immediately reaches for the hand rails when she gets into the video frame (I wonder if that was installed for her?).

She keeps reaching for the hand rail. Then at about 0:55, notice what she is doing? She is leaning into Biden.

In the house, she has her hand on a chair or table the whole time.



Dr. Howard · 2016-08-16 20:13:00 · #1840
(08-16-2016 08:03 PM)Dusty Wrote:  I find this clip very very interesting.

Notice they start off with this diversion showing Biden get out of the limo and greeting the homeowners. This buys time for Shrillary to get out of the car.

Then Shrillary shows up, but you never see her get out of the car (probably struggles and needs help). She immediately reaches for the hand rails when she gets into the video frame (I wonder if that was installed for her?).

She keeps reaching for the hand rail. Then at about 0:55, notice what she is doing? She is leaning into Biden.

In the house, she has her hand on a chair or table the whole time.




Dammit! This is how she's going to get out of the debates with trump! She can get up there on stage and as soon as trump starts to blast her be like "oh I feel faint...." Debate over. The press the next day is all about 'fainting hillary' not anything trump says.
eradicator · 2016-08-16 20:30:00 · #1841
(08-16-2016 08:13 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
(08-16-2016 08:03 PM)Dusty Wrote:  I find this clip very very interesting.

Notice they start off with this diversion showing Biden get out of the limo and greeting the homeowners. This buys time for Shrillary to get out of the car.

Then Shrillary shows up, but you never see her get out of the car (probably struggles and needs help). She immediately reaches for the hand rails when she gets into the video frame (I wonder if that was installed for her?).

She keeps reaching for the hand rail. Then at about 0:55, notice what she is doing? She is leaning into Biden.

In the house, she has her hand on a chair or table the whole time.




Dammit! This is how she's going to get out of the debates with trump! She can get up there on stage and as soon as trump starts to blast her be like "oh I feel faint...." Debate over. The press the next day is all about 'fainting hillary' not anything trump says.


I don't know if that will happen, but what could definitely happen is if she goes to the bathroom to freshen up, splash water on her face and maybe she just doesn't come back and goes home. Her health is rapidly deteriorating. How long has it been since Hillary's last press conference?

She is having trouble getting through speeches and rallies in front of favorable crowds, how will she hold up in more hostile environments?

This will get very interesting.
Dusty · 2016-08-16 20:42:00 · #1842
(08-16-2016 08:30 PM)eradicator Wrote:  
(08-16-2016 08:13 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
(08-16-2016 08:03 PM)Dusty Wrote:  I find this clip very very interesting.

Notice they start off with this diversion showing Biden get out of the limo and greeting the homeowners. This buys time for Shrillary to get out of the car.

Then Shrillary shows up, but you never see her get out of the car (probably struggles and needs help). She immediately reaches for the hand rails when she gets into the video frame (I wonder if that was installed for her?).

She keeps reaching for the hand rail. Then at about 0:55, notice what she is doing? She is leaning into Biden.

In the house, she has her hand on a chair or table the whole time.




Dammit! This is how she's going to get out of the debates with trump! She can get up there on stage and as soon as trump starts to blast her be like "oh I feel faint...." Debate over. The press the next day is all about 'fainting hillary' not anything trump says.


I don't know if that will happen, but what could definitely happen is if she goes to the bathroom to freshen up, splash water on her face and maybe she just doesn't come back and goes home. Her health is rapidly deteriorating. How long has it been since Hillary's last press conference?

She is having trouble getting through speeches and rallies in front of favorable crowds, how will she hold up in more hostile environments?

This will get very interesting.

Although she held her own in debates with Bernie. Except for the long bathroom breaks.
rpg · 2016-08-16 21:31:00 · #1843
(08-16-2016 08:42 PM)Dusty Wrote:  
(08-16-2016 08:30 PM)eradicator Wrote:  
(08-16-2016 08:13 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
(08-16-2016 08:03 PM)Dusty Wrote:  I find this clip very very interesting.

Notice they start off with this diversion showing Biden get out of the limo and greeting the homeowners. This buys time for Shrillary to get out of the car.

Then Shrillary shows up, but you never see her get out of the car (probably struggles and needs help). She immediately reaches for the hand rails when she gets into the video frame (I wonder if that was installed for her?).

She keeps reaching for the hand rail. Then at about 0:55, notice what she is doing? She is leaning into Biden.

In the house, she has her hand on a chair or table the whole time.




Dammit! This is how she's going to get out of the debates with trump! She can get up there on stage and as soon as trump starts to blast her be like "oh I feel faint...." Debate over. The press the next day is all about 'fainting hillary' not anything trump says.


I don't know if that will happen, but what could definitely happen is if she goes to the bathroom to freshen up, splash water on her face and maybe she just doesn't come back and goes home. Her health is rapidly deteriorating. How long has it been since Hillary's last press conference?

She is having trouble getting through speeches and rallies in front of favorable crowds, how will she hold up in more hostile environments?

This will get very interesting.

Although she held her own in debates with Bernie. Except for the long bathroom breaks.

She never debated Bernie. It was all canned, preplanned and choreagraphed bullshit. Bernie was thrown under the fucking bus by Wasserman.
TravelerKai · 2016-08-17 05:57:00 · #1844
(08-16-2016 07:47 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  Democrats are way, way shrewder about understanding power and perception than republicans.

They saw the black guy with the seizure pen was making news, so they immediately removed him from the public eye without hesitation. That's how you have to run a campaign. They take care of their problems very quickly.

I finally saw a Hillary TV ad, it mentioned taxing companies who want to leave US. Literally pulled straight from Trump's ideas. They wouldn't even be talking about it if Trump wasn't so popular.

It's shallow and devious but they are very adept at painting a pretty picture of themselves. I suppose when there's no substance or ethics to your positions you get pretty good at that.

All you are seeing is the difference between a career politician vs someone who is not.

As a person who used to be in this area in previous life, Trump is breaking almost every rule in campaigning, and it makes me cringe every day. Almost every rule some of the best political scientists in the country, I studied under, is being ignored just about. It's shocking to say the least.

He still stays competitive because the very same things that made politics a science, now pisses off the common man. It just goes to show you how bad of shape this country is in. Everyone is on edge and when desperation sets in, all rules of engagement are thrown out. We can talk about stereotypical things like Trump is tall, male, not bald, good on TV, etc. but this election itself is not normal at all. Alot is at stake and the previous administration has crossed the line in certain areas, just like the one before it did, and people are fed up and want something completely different, no career politician can provide. The rally numbers and the silent majority numbers back this up.
Slim Shady · 2016-08-17 07:22:00 · #1845
So what you guys are telling me is this; Hillary made another fit to work black man lose his job and livelihood? Wow, #blacklivesmatter. Hillary Clinton doesn't care about black people.

(08-16-2016 09:54 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Did Fat Albert lose his job?


Hillary’s Handler Disappears From Campaign Trail After Alt-Media Points Him Out

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/...ia-points/

Hillary Clinton’s mysterious handler has disappeared.

In recent bizarre events on the campaign trail a strange man was noticed at Hillary Clinton’s side.

Now this…
Hillary’s mysterious handler has disappeared from the campaign trail.
He’s gone and poor Hillary is on her own.


[Image: Cp8M-9kUMAE9dH2.jpg] [Image: CpOm4EoXYAASN2M.jpg]

Seems he may have been replaced by a stool...
Sombro · 2016-08-17 09:25:00 · #1846


Libertas · 2016-08-17 10:37:00 · #1847
Hillary's stools were exploding on the trends yesterday. Trump better make sure that Hillary doesn't get to sit during the debates. Her health is one of the best angles he has right now.
TravelerKai · 2016-08-17 11:19:00 · #1848
Interesting story on Fox News' site:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/...ation.html

Quote:State Department sought land deal with Nigerian firm tied to Clinton Foundation
James Rosen
By James Rosen Published August 17, 2016 FoxNews.com

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Clinton Foundation dogged by more allegations of impropriety
EXCLUSIVE: Shortly after Hillary Clinton left the Obama administration, the State Department quietly took steps to purchase real estate in Nigeria from a firm whose parent company is owned by a major donor to the Clinton Foundation, records obtained by Fox News show.

On March 20, 2013, William P. Franklin, an “international realty specialist” at the State Department, emailed Mary E. Davis, an American diplomat stationed in Africa, instructing her to “put on Post letterhead” an “expression of interest” by the department in purchasing property at Eko Atlantic, a massive real estate development off the coast of Lagos. Franklin further instructed that the signed letter was to be “delivered to Ronald Chagoury.”

The draft letter, also obtained by Fox News, was undated and addressed to Chagoury care of his firm South Energyx Nigeria Limited, a subsidiary of the larger Chagoury Group that is spearheading the Eko Atlantic real estate venture. The State Department letter sought, among other things, to confirm that the department could proceed with “acquisition of the real property…[at] the asking price of $1,250 per square meter.”

Overtures to real estate developers from State Department officials scouting locations for embassies, consulates and other diplomatic facilities would ordinarily not arouse interest. But in this case, the budding transaction – never completed, the department now says – raised eyebrows because Ronald Chagoury is the brother and business partner, in the Chagoury Group, of Gilbert Chagoury, a Lebanese-born businessman whom federal records show has donated between $1 and $5 million to the Clinton Foundation.

Indeed, Gilbert Chagoury’s friendship with the Clintons can be traced back to the Clinton presidency. In the mid-1990s, Chagoury donated nearly $500,000 to a voter-registration drive designed to help Democratic candidates, attended a White House dinner for premium donors, and met with high-ranking officials in the Clinton White House – including Susan Rice, now President Obama’s national security adviser – who were shaping U.S. policy toward Nigeria.

More recently, the Chagourys’ close ties to the Clintons generated headlines when a separate series of emails from 2009 – between Doug Band, an aide to former President Clinton and Huma Abedin, an aide to Secretary Clinton – revealed the eagerness of the State Department to oblige a request for Chagoury to be granted access to senior officials working on Lebanon.

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The State Department’s outreach to the Chagoury family, looking to buy property from the brothers, came less than a month after former President Clinton himself toured the Eko Atlantic project – for the second time. The first occasion was the ground breaking, in 2009, in which the former president participated. By all accounts, Eko Atlantic represents a staggeringly ambitious undertaking: the dredging of millions of tons of sand from the sea floor off Victoria Island and the creation of an estimated 3.5 square miles of new land, on which the Chagourys aim to establish what they call a “21st century city … for residential, commercial, financial and tourist development.”

Mr. Clinton toured the Eko Atlantic site for the second time on February 21, 2013 – twenty days after his wife left the State Department – to celebrate the Chagourys’ reclamation of 5 million square meters of land, a critical juncture in the project.

Smiling and animated, Mr. Clinton was photographed conferring with Gilbert Chagoury and Jeffrey J. Hawkins, the consul general for the State Department in Nigeria. Twenty-seven days later, when William P. Franklin would order aides to begin exploring the acquisition of land from South Energyx, the Chagoury-owned company, Hawkins would be one of four State Department officials copied on Franklin’s email.

“A month after Bill Clinton visits a Gilbert and Ronald Chagoury-run land project in Nigeria, the U.S. State Department wants to buy the same land,” said David N. Bossie, president of Citizens United, the conservative advocacy group whose litigation against the State Department pried loose the Franklin email and accompanying letter. “Who could be so lucky? A major donor to the Clinton Foundation, that’s who.”

Queried by Fox News about the matter, the State Department said its officials had “prioritized” the search for a new consulate location in Lagos back in 2011 – when Mrs. Clinton was secretary of state – and that an “independent international real estate firm” had identified Eko Atlantic as a potential site the following year.

“Our site search process … is managed by career real estate professionals in the Bureau of Overseas Building Operations, with input from independent real estate firms and other department stakeholders,” said Elizabeth Trudeau, a State Department spokeswoman, at a briefing for reporters on Monday. “The department has had conversations with multiple property owners and their representatives about the possibility of acquiring property for a new consulate in Lagos.”

Trudeau could not explain why a “prioritized” mission had dragged on for five years without success, noting only that “acquiring property that’s appropriate” for a diplomatic facility can be “a long process.” Asked if Secretary Clinton had been aware of her department’s identification of the Chagoury-owned land as a potential site for a consulate, Trudeau replied: “I’m not aware she was.”

The Clinton campaign did not respond to a request for comment. Mark Corallo, a Washington-based spokesman for Gilbert Chagoury, said in a statement that given the project’s “state-of-the-art urban design,” including advanced telecommunications and security features, “it should come as no surprise that the United States government and other governments from around the world are considering Eko Atlantic as a new opportunity for locating their offices that operate in Lagos.”

John Bolton, a former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations and Fox News contributor, said the entire series of events involving the Clintons and the Chagourys appeared, at a minimum, poorly handled to insulate Secretary Clinton from conflict of interest charges.

“The impression left is that there’s favoritism involved,” Bolton said. “And it’s just very unusual in State Department real estate and housing transactions overseas to have this kind of focus on someone with such clear financial connections to even the departed secretary of state. Normally, there’s much more competitive activity involved, [of] which we haven’t seen any evidence from the State Department.”

Experts agreed the March 2013 email from William P. Franklin to Mary E. Davis, triggering the State Department’s letter to Ronald Chagoury for a possible real estate transaction, would likely have formed only one set of documents in a longer trail that would have dated back to 2012 – the year the State Department said Eko Atlantic had been identified as a potential site for a new consulate.

Such a trail would presumably include internal correspondence addressing the suitability of the Eko Atlantic site and, perhaps, flagging the potential conflict of interest that could be cited, given the longstanding ties between the Clintons and the Chagourys.

But Citizens United said no other documents on the consulate-scouting effort were turned over by the State Department. The group filed its initial Freedom of Information Act request with the State Department for records relating to Gilbert Chagoury back in 2014, and, receiving no reply, filed suit in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia in April 2015.


James Rosen joined Fox News Channel (FNC) in 1999. He currently serves as the chief Washington correspondent and hosts the online show "The Foxhole." His latest book is "Cheney One on One: A Candid Conversation with America's Most Controversial Statesman" (Regnery, November 2, 2015).
debeguiled · 2016-08-17 11:59:00 · #1849
(08-17-2016 10:37 AM)Libertas Wrote:  Hillary's stools were exploding on the trends yesterday. Trump better make sure that Hillary doesn't get to sit during the debates. Her health is one of the best angles he has right now.

At first I thought this was a new health revelation.
Dusty · 2016-08-17 13:52:00 · #1850
(08-17-2016 11:59 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 10:37 AM)Libertas Wrote:  Hillary's stools were exploding on the trends yesterday. Trump better make sure that Hillary doesn't get to sit during the debates. Her health is one of the best angles he has right now.

At first I thought this was a new health revelation.

   
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