What, Dixiecrats still exist?

All the other wikileaks have not been a surprise to me because I don't watch MSM but this, a Dixiecrat in the post LBJ and ((carpetbagger)) civil rights era?

(10-11-2016 11:39 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  Sure, that's a fair and nuanced view. I just object to the promotion of this "Bill Clinton is a RAPIST" theme based on weak evidence - that is like Mattress Girl, etc.

So do I. But they started it. Losing honorably is still losing and when you're dead no one will care. In the most recent escalation Paul Ryan started it, but they have been hurling dishonest lying "misogynist" accusations at Trump from day one. It's hurting Trump, and going after the Clintons is a way to level the playing field.

Besides, it might have a positive effect in the big picture. If the left suddenly starts caring about the validity of rapists claims after seeing what happened to WJC, that helps men.

(10-11-2016 11:39 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  Sure, that's a fair and nuanced view. I just object to the promotion of this "Bill Clinton is a RAPIST" theme based on weak evidence - that is like Mattress Girl, etc.

The evidence does differ. If Broaddrick made a complaint to her friends at the time, that lends credibility - the only problem is that the complaint was not recorded. It's possible he raped her. Willey is almost certainly a liar. Jones, who knows? The original American Spectator story implied she (not named in the story) fucked Bill in a hotel room.

It doesn't matter. There is no honor in losing fairly, no one will stand up and proclaim how unfairly you have been treated, there will be no retrial, no second examination of evidence, no one will change their opinion after the fact that you lost. You will be remembered a loser and shunned. This is the road that conservacucks, Christcucks and Republicans have been taking for the past decade: they lose with grace and then are steamrolled over by the giddily laughing and mocking leftists. "But at least I lost while staying morally right!" nobody cares dude.

If both parties fight fair and square, sure, take the moral high road you're both taking. But if the other party fights dirty, you also have to whip out every dirty trick in the book. The only thing that deters others from fighting dirty every time is the fear that the other side will fight dirty too.

(10-11-2016 10:37 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Bill Cosby raping white women in the 70s and 80s makes no sense because white women were still on protected species status against any black man. They were fucking him to get ahead in life. The fact that many of them returned to him later makes their claims of rape even more absurd.

I agree with the rest of what you wrote, but I think the reason why so many women had sex with Bill Cosby was because they got tingles because of his celebrity status, not to get ahead. I don't think the actress from the last american virgin, for example, got any extra movie roles from banging Cosby, she just wanted to be around him because of his celebrity status.

The rest of what you said makes sense, about JoePA, Sandusky, and Bill and Hillary

(10-11-2016 11:55 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 11:39 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 10:37 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 09:55 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 09:33 AM)Blaster Wrote:  Also, it's looking more and more like WJC actually did assault at least some of those women.

And then there's Kathy Shelton (who was not a WJC victim, she's the one HRC abused in court with lies). She is one of the best examples of what a genuine rape victim looks like. You read her story, you watch her interviews-- you know that poor girl was horribly victimized. Shelton talks about her experiences with a simple acceptance, tinged with regret and sadness, that comes from years and years of private therapy to cope with the physical and psychological damage from the traumatic experience. She is the opposite of an XoJane attention whore. She's the opposite of Mattress Girl. She's clearly a genuine victim who deserves support and sympathy.

As a former criminal defense lawyer who defended accused rapists myself, I am utterly unmoved by the Shelton story. "Abused in court with lies?" That sounds like the framing "Rape Culture" advocates make. How are we to know what are "lies?" As I say to many people, it's the jury's job to decide what happened - I wasn't there, and the prosecutor wasn't there, either.

But the Shelton story feeds into the "Rape Culture" hysteria just as much, because it promotes the idea that accused rapists should not get the zealous defense the law orders.

Anyways, the accused in that case got convicted of a lesser charge and served a year in jail.

The rest of Bill's "victims" are scorned women and pump-n-dumped attention whores.

I agree with you most of the time on rape allegations, etc. This time, I will say that the potential for Bill Clinton rapes is a little higher than say someone like Colin Kapernick or Bill Cosby, due to the fact that even when he was governor, he had serious power in terms of intimidation.

Small states like Arkansas, Louisiana, etc. are easier to get away with stuff like this if you are at the top of the food chain in terms of power. Even Penn State's scandal festered so badly because Joe Pa, the AD, and Sandusky were very powerful in the state, because of the football program. Lots of people came out and said, that saying anything bad about any of them could get you into alot of trouble.

Bill Cosby raping white women in the 70s and 80s makes no sense because white women were still on protected species status against any black man. They were fucking him to get ahead in life. The fact that many of them returned to him later makes their claims of rape even more absurd.

Bill and Hillary as a team could threaten and bully anyone and their reputation for having a body count was before getting into the White House. If Bill told a chick he raped that she would be found in a ditch, do you think she would go to the police station in Little Rock and ask for a rape kit? I highly, highly doubt it.

Bill Clinton told Kevin Spacey he thought the show House of Cards was definitely real. That should be a major red flag to everyone because it's blatantly obvious that the show is about him and Hillary in a post 90s setting.

Sure, that's a fair and nuanced view. I just object to the promotion of this "Bill Clinton is a RAPIST" theme based on weak evidence - that is like Mattress Girl, etc.

The evidence does differ. If Broaddrick made a complaint to her friends at the time, that lends credibility - the only problem is that the complaint was not recorded. It's possible he raped her. Willey is almost certainly a liar. Jones, who knows? The original American Spectator story implied she (not named in the story) fucked Bill in a hotel room.

Yep, the evidence is weak as hell. I would prefer none of that came up and the more I think about it, Trump giving them a stage, may have been a mistake. Sometimes fighting fire with fire just makes the damn thing bigger.

Unless 20 women come out of the woodwork tomorrow and ask congress to be put into witness protection, this looks petty, partisan, and as if Trump is giving whores a platform to be salty with Bill and Hillary. I bet several of them dreamed of being Mrs. Arkansas back then like several wanted to be Mrs. Cosby back then too.

Most people are not going to go through the mental gymnastics to try and understand what they may perceive as a few whores being bitter. Real players and connoisseurs of Game, know that while they are alpha widows, they probably hate Hillary much much more, because when Bill was going through hell, they never not once called him a rapist, to my recollection. They were jealous that he stayed married to a mean ass lesbian that probably called them on the phone and cursed them out on several occasions, like some Arkansas trailer park drama made for TV show.

Hillary probably was the bad cop telling them they would end up like Vince Foster or dead in a ditch. Bill probably played good cop called them back later saying, "Come on ladies, you know Hillary doesn't mean it. I won't let her hurt you." These women are just upping the ante, because they hate Mrs. Bitch for coming after them hard all those years ago. Women always hate each other the most.

Yes that was the impression I got as well: Bill did whatever he did and then didn't contact them. If they tried to make any trouble, Hillary would call them up and threaten them to "shut up or you will end up in a ditch along route 66".

That rings a bit more true. Did Bill rape all of those women? Probably not. Did he use his influence to get them into bed and some of them regretted later that they didn't put more effort into fighting him off or saying no? Sure.

After being absence for a few days (currently in one of the former USSR countries at the moment for R&R), I'm trying to catch up with everything I missed on this forum.

Lately, WikiLeaks made good on their promise. This particular email by Erika Rottenberg is very interesting and very telling because:
1. she is in a legal professional field;
2. she is part of Clinton's inner circle of friends so they *all* obviously knew about Hillary's emails problem and multiple mobile devices (note the " : ) " in that screenshot);
3. she knew that everything HRC was doing was "above the law" - Hillary abused her power and position as Secretary of State.

These people are fucking corrupted to the core.



Erika Rottenberg


Stephanie Hannon


Ann O'Leary


Source
GAMECHANGER: New WikiLeaks Confirms Hillary DELIBERATELY, Criminally Deleted Emails

(10-11-2016 09:55 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  As a former criminal defense lawyer who defended accused rapists myself, I am utterly unmoved by the Shelton story. "Abused in court with lies?" That sounds like the framing "Rape Culture" advocates make. How are we to know what are "lies?" As I say to many people, it's the jury's job to decide what happened - I wasn't there, and the prosecutor wasn't there, either.

But the Shelton story feeds into the "Rape Culture" hysteria just as much, because it promotes the idea that accused rapists should not get the zealous defense the law orders.

Anyways, the accused in that case got convicted of a lesser charge and served a year in jail.

The rest of Bill's "victims" are scorned women and pump-n-dumped attention whores.

Kathy Shelton was in a coma for 5 days, and there was DNA evidence that "disappeared".

She WAS brutally raped and Clinton even implies that in her comments about the polygraph test.

The point of bringing this up is that Clinton portrays herself as a defender of women and rape victims, when she is anything but.

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/18539

Edit: Looks like a translated document but HC still forwarded it without comment.

^^^ I can't tell from reading that email if its her or its a block of quote by some Israeli intelligence spoke person. If its her its definitely the most damaging thing to come out of wikileaks.

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-sand-wikileaks-dump/

CLAIM: Hillary Clinton called Muslims "sand ******" in an email leaked by Wikileaks.

MOSTLY FALSE
WHAT'S TRUE: The term "sand ******" appears in an e-mail from Hillary Clinton published by Wikileaks.

WHAT'S FALSE: Hillary Clinton did not use the term herself to describe Muslims; she forwarded an op-ed piece written by someone else that contained that phrase.

I had to look up "sand nigger" on urbandictionary. It's just a disparaging term for someone from the Mideast. I doubt this will really hurt Hillary much at all, she could start spitting on black people with her poisonous saliva at rallies and CNN would call it a win for her.

(10-11-2016 04:34 PM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  http://www.snopes.com/hillary-sand-wikileaks-dump/

CLAIM: Hillary Clinton called Muslims "sand ******" in an email leaked by Wikileaks.

MOSTLY FALSE
WHAT'S TRUE: The term "sand ******" appears in an e-mail from Hillary Clinton published by Wikileaks.

WHAT'S FALSE: Hillary Clinton did not use the term herself to describe Muslims; she forwarded an op-ed piece written by someone else that contained that phrase.

You really believe SNOPES ?

The left leaning "fact checker" shill site ?

I wouldn't believe Snopes but I did read the email, it's an op-ed about an event that happened in Israel. Policemen left an injured illegal alien (who stole a car and crashed it) from Gaza on the side of the road and he died. So the "sand nigger" part is the author's reconstruction of the thought process the cops might have had when they decided to dump the guy.

It's a translation, though, so is there a "sand nigger" equivalent in the native (presumably) Hebrew? Or is that an invention? I am curious more than anything else, I don't really give a fuck about racial slurs no matter whom they're leveled against. It'd be convenient to find some coming straight from Hillary in light of this latest brouhaha, though.

How can all these liberal Hillary voters buy into her bullshit of 'Russian aggression'? After Bush they were all 'we had no legit reason to be there!'

Only a few years later, we're in a similar situation of agitating shit we don't need to be involved with, Hillary is indicating she would escalate against Russia (who, unlike Saddam, have WMDs). Are they too fucking to stupid to see that Hillary would provoke a nuke war with Russia? I thought these were pacifist 'coexist' hippies. Now they're voting for a warmonger? Trump says he prefers to get along with everyone, yet he's the bad guy now?

(10-11-2016 05:18 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 04:34 PM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  http://www.snopes.com/hillary-sand-wikileaks-dump/

CLAIM: Hillary Clinton called Muslims "sand ******" in an email leaked by Wikileaks.

MOSTLY FALSE
WHAT'S TRUE: The term "sand ******" appears in an e-mail from Hillary Clinton published by Wikileaks.

WHAT'S FALSE: Hillary Clinton did not use the term herself to describe Muslims; she forwarded an op-ed piece written by someone else that contained that phrase.

You really believe SNOPES ?

The left leaning "fact checker" shill site ?

Yes, I'm aware Snopes is a shill site. However the information quoted in this case is correct:

'Hillary Clinton did not use the term herself to describe Muslims; she forwarded an op-ed piece written by someone else that contained that phrase.'


Still, she obviously had no qualms about forwarding a racist article.

(10-11-2016 01:53 PM)Blaster Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 11:39 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  Sure, that's a fair and nuanced view. I just object to the promotion of this "Bill Clinton is a RAPIST" theme based on weak evidence - that is like Mattress Girl, etc.

So do I. But they started it. Losing honorably is still losing and when you're dead no one will care. In the most recent escalation Paul Ryan started it, but they have been hurling dishonest lying "misogynist" accusations at Trump from day one. It's hurting Trump, and going after the Clintons is a way to level the playing field.

Besides, it might have a positive effect in the big picture. If the left suddenly starts caring about the validity of rapists claims after seeing what happened to WJC, that helps men.

Exactly. The fucking Marquess of Queensbury rules are out the fucking window now.

We use rhetoric and we use it liberally. Let THEM argue that Bill's not a rapist. Good luck to them disproving that FACT. Along with the FACT that Cankles followed up the rapes with intimidation.

The media is publishing nothing. Every single news outlet talking about the leaks, are news outlets which will have zero effect on the election. They are news networks only viewed by people who already support Trump. We need to be flooding this stuff on mainstream social media.

(10-11-2016 09:58 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 09:40 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

Quote:From: Darnell Strom
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 3:13 PM
To: Tulsi Gabbard ([email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>)
Cc: Michael Kives
Subject: Disappointed
Representative Gabbard, We were very disappointed to hear that you would resign your position with the DNC so you could endorse Bernie Sanders, a man who has never been a Democrat before. When we met over dinner a couple of years ago I was so impressed by your intellect, your passion, and commitment to getting things done on behalf of the American people. For you to endorse a man who has spent almost 40 years in public office with very few accomplishments, doesn't fall in line with what we previously thought of you. Hillary Clinton will be our party's nominee and you standing on ceremony to support the sinking Bernie Sanders ship is disrespectful to Hillary Clinton. A woman who has spent the vast majority of her life in public service and working on behalf of women, families, and the underserved. You have called both myself and Michael Kives before about helping your campaign raise money, we no longer trust your judgement so will not be raising money for your campaign.

Darnell Strom with Jenna Bush

Holy Shit she's getting fat!

I thought upper class women were more likely to avoid this? She must be married to a beta.

(10-11-2016 07:14 PM)Rush87 Wrote:  The media is publishing nothing. Every single news outlet talking about the leaks, are news outlets which will have zero effect on the election. They are news networks only viewed by people who already support Trump. We need to be flooding this stuff on mainstream social media.

Whether it was the Twitter trend of - #WorldMentalHealthDay or today's trend of #DayOfTheGirl.

Leftists get mighty salty when you put forth some uncomfortable truths.

Such as - "Want war with Russia? Vote for Hillary! The war candidate!"

They get even more salty when you allude to Hillary having mental health issues.
Plus that she should be in jail.



Edit.
By using this .gif with several big Twitter trends, I've had well over 15000 'impressions' (views) so far.

(10-11-2016 05:26 PM)weambulance Wrote:  I wouldn't believe Snopes but I did read the email, it's an op-ed about an event that happened in Israel. Policemen left an injured illegal alien (who stole a car and crashed it) from Gaza on the side of the road and he died. So the "sand nigger" part is the author's reconstruction of the thought process the cops might have had when they decided to dump the guy.

It's a translation, though, so is there a "sand nigger" equivalent in the native (presumably) Hebrew? Or is that an invention? I am curious more than anything else, I don't really give a fuck about racial slurs no matter whom they're leveled against. It'd be convenient to find some coming straight from Hillary in light of this latest brouhaha, though.

I have definitely heard the term sand nigger, rag head, Haji, sack monkey. There are plenty of colorful terms for people of middle eastern heritage, who happen to be Muslim.

I'd say it's at least as offensive to the target group as saying it without the word 'sand'.

I'm somewhat apprehensive using this kind of language here, because I know there are plenty of woke dudes from these cultures on the site, and I respect these guys.

Apparently Hillary didn't have these concerns.

(10-11-2016 09:40 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

Quote:From: Darnell Strom
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 3:13 PM
To: Tulsi Gabbard ([email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>)
Cc: Michael Kives
Subject: Disappointed
Representative Gabbard, We were very disappointed to hear that you would resign your position with the DNC so you could endorse Bernie Sanders, a man who has never been a Democrat before. When we met over dinner a couple of years ago I was so impressed by your intellect, your passion, and commitment to getting things done on behalf of the American people. For you to endorse a man who has spent almost 40 years in public office with very few accomplishments, doesn't fall in line with what we previously thought of you. Hillary Clinton will be our party's nominee and you standing on ceremony to support the sinking Bernie Sanders ship is disrespectful to Hillary Clinton. A woman who has spent the vast majority of her life in public service and working on behalf of women, families, and the underserved. You have called both myself and Michael Kives before about helping your campaign raise money, we no longer trust your judgement so will not be raising money for your campaign.

Just an aside. Tulsi Gabbard is a serious WB for me. Glad she's not on team Shillary.

This is getting big traction on the Kelly Files. Catholics are a swing group as strong as the black population. Catholics have the numbers to swing an entire election.

This would be like Kelly Ann Conway saying 'nigger' or something similar. Trump MUST DRILL this home. This is BIG, but only Trump can make it big. It's worthy of a press conference alone.

He should pull something similar to the 'birther' stunt. Con the media into a press conference where he's going to 'Talk about Paul Ryan'... Have them [The MSM] come under the impression he's about to implode, and then pivot into the 'Catholic Emails'.

Suddenly old rape accusations with no significant evidence available should be treated skeptically according to The Kelly File. Funny how that works, now that a woman is in the crosshairs.

Slightly OT, but I had to share:

   

Weaponized Autism is serious business. Damn.