(04-04-2015 09:30 AM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote: Yeah, just thought it was the best way to help educate them on their own foolishness. They like the idea of pushing their SJW ideas at the risk of other people's lives, but when you construct a situation where the consequences fall on them personally, it sets off a lightbulb. I'd like to think I did them a favor and maybe planted a seed Inception style.
You've got it completely backwards.
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TheLizardOfOz hints at my suggestion in this excellent post about rape. (I've repped him already, but if you haven't, his post deserves a rep-point.)
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Quote:LOL is there any female who was not raped? Maybe they are the ones who should start coming out, apparently there are very few of them so it would save everyone time.
As a previous poster mentioned, NYC in the 70s was a very intense and scary (and unspeakably glorious) place, one of the places and times in US history when violent crime of all kinds was not at all uncommon. So it is just possible that her story is true, although it's of course always more likely that she is lying.
But there is an interesting conclusion to draw from that. We are supposed to accept on faith the idea that rape is the most uniquely heinous and terrible crime of all -- worse somehow than murder, worse than anything one could possibly imagine. Yet in all these stories, the women who experienced this crime just shake it off, never report it to anyone, and go on to have perfectly normal and indeed in this case very successful lives.
Beside the fact that actual rape is extremely rare, indeed one of the rarest of all violent crimes, and that women lie about it all the time -- it is time to break the taboo and stop accepting the idea that rape is a uniquely terrible and indeed the most unspeakable of all crimes. It is not. It can be a serious crime, and very traumatic to a woman, for sure -- but in many many cases, it is not, especially if no one knows about it and hence there is no shame involved for the woman. In many such cases, they can shake it off very rapidly and move on with their lives as if nothing much happened.
Women are very rarely truly broken or traumatized by a purely physical experience, unless it is truly frightening or violent, and sometimes not even then. They do not experience anything like the sense of violation and a stain on their honor as a man would if raped -- and a man would feel that way even if he is the only one who knows, because it is his inner sense of honor and integrity that is violated. Whereas for a woman it is often only serious if others know; the same goes for all sorts of voluntary sexual antics -- there is no shame and no problem as long as no one knows.
These are not very popular truths but they are truths nonetheless. Men too often imagine that women share their sense of honor and integrity and that leads to them to have very wrong ideas about women's vulnerability. A woman can much more easily be broken and traumatized for life if a man she loves dumps her unceremoniously for another, than if a stranger fucks her for 10 minutes at knife point and lets her go. Again, this is not to say the latter is not a serious violent crime that should be punished -- but it is to say that it should not be sacralized and held up to be an unspeakable and irreparable violation that exceeds all others.
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The underline is the most important conclusion. "As long as no one else knows about it, and therefore there is no shame on the woman."
You
think you "planted a seed" because she unfriended you and facebook, because you think that the only possible emotional reason for the unfriend was, "Oooooh! I burned her so bad with my argument!" But the truth is that she doesn't want others to know how badly you burned her with your argument. Hence, she unfriended you to prevent you from making her look like an idiot
in front of her friends.
So my suggestion, as a troll, is to find twenty of her mutual friends: ten men and ten women. Then facebook-message them a screen shot of the argument you had with her, while opening with, "I thought this conversation was interesting; what do you think?"
The majority of people will take her side,
but the ensuing level of annoyance you will impose on her will be 100 times more than you can imagine. So you're trading less than 10 minutes of your time for something that will bother her for days (if not weeks).
This annoyance is the primary goal! You're not trying to convince her by winning the argument. You're making her pay a heavy price (social stress, and the threat of "losing a friend") for advocating such a stupid opinion. (You might even find a sympathetic male friend who needs a reference to a Red Pill website...)
This is "Each one, reach one", but in troll-from instead of Jesus-spreading. And as more and more men do this, more and more leftists will
voluntarily censor themselves to avoid being called out for their stupidity.
When this happens, you'll realize why Roosh named his website Return Of Kings.
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