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When to cut bait?
I opened up a cute girl at a bar a few weeks ago around closing time. Turned out she's Brazilian which is a great in for me since I've been to Brazil, speak a tiny bit of Portuguese and Brazilians tend to love men with blond hair.

Couldn't get her to come home with me at that moment, so I just got the # and ejected. Following Friday I meet her for drinks, and it's going really well. She invites me to a party that some of her Brazilian friends are throwing. Cue dancing, kino, meeting her friends, drinking, bla bla bla. Convince her to come home with me with her saying the whole time on the subway that she's not going to have sex with me, and at the same time I'm thinking "sure, yeah right."

But she made good on her promise and didn't put out, and besides some light hands stuff I couldn't get her to do anything else. I was fine with that, because I thought that the 1st meet went well enough that she'd hop straight on my dick the next time.

So I invite her over to watch a movie for the second date, and this time she emphatically says her clothes will be staying on the whole time. I say sure, whatever that's fine, but in the back of my mind I wasn't expected this much resistance. I try to get her more in to it but she's not allowing me to take off her clothes or put hands up shirt or down pants. She then decides to go home after the movie ends, which to me at that time was a clear indicator of disinterest since she'd rather ride the subway at 12:30 AM (She lives about 45 minutes away) then spend the night. Decided I wasn't going to text her again and pursue other leads.

Then, to my surprise, she drunk texts me the following Friday while I'm out with friends and she ends up meeting me at my place at 3:30 in the morning. I think it's finally on. But this encounter went very much like the first: just a lot of heavy petting, no sex, no bj. I was really just confused why she would be constantly putting herself in situations where she knew I'd try to have sex with her even though she didn't want to put out.

Anyways, we're talking the next morning and it turns out she's a virgin which makes her prior behavior make a little more sense. Is this worth my time? I don't care about the number of past partners a girl has had as much as other members of RVF, in fact it was a little disheartening when I found out she was a virgin since I realized it would be an uphill battle to get her to put out.
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03-03-2015 05:55 PM
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RE: When to cut bait?
1 date if she isn't hot enough

2 dates if she's hot and you are annoyed by her

3 dates if she's hot you can deal with her

4 dates if she's hot and you like her

5 dates if she's hot and you want to hate fuck her

The last option guarantees the best orgasm, yet is the most work like with anything in life.

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WestIndianArchie Wrote:Am I reacting to her? No pussy, all problems
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Is she reacting to me? All pussy, no problems
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RE: When to cut bait?
Exactly, IMO everything pivots around her leel if hotness. But it's finishing returns. I'd say
A. Introduce alcohol into the mix...wine..tapas who gives a shit
B. If by hangout #3 you aren't at the bj tell her f she wants to hang she has to bang because you are a high value individual who can be spending time actually banging with other ladies.

Virgin game does bring it's set of complications though and attachment. If you can keep it low effort an she is 8+ Id continue but you'll have t deal with attachment if you bone.

Good luck be curious to know what goes down
03-04-2015 02:33 AM
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RE: When to cut bait?
Shit like that is such buzz kill when a girl is saying that before you even get back to your place.

She gave you blue balls twice in a row and disrespected you on the second date by coming over for a movie, obviously knowing you will try and escalate and denies you again, not even getting farther than you did with her the previous time.

She then gives you blue balls for the third time. Listen, shes putting herself in these vulnerable positions with you because its an ego stroke and validation for her, not to mention she is obviously super prude. She has you exactly where she wants you, on her leash, where she can drag you in any direction she pleases. Its fun for her to tease you like that and see your frustration. Some girls get off more on that than sex itself.

Virgin or not, these kind of girls are a waste of time. You have seen her 3 times already and you haven't got passed 1st base. If she was progressively escalating with you then fine, but she's obviously not rewarding you for your unprecedented patience, even in the slightest form.

You don't have time for stupidity like that. There's hotter women out there who put out. I would have radio-silenced her drunken text message to you, get her hamster running a bit, make it seem like your slipping away a bit, hold her accountable for her childish behavior and see how she responds to it.

Would a celebrity, with 8's and 9's on a harem, give this girl the time of day? Would he wait until the 4th date to maybe get a hand down her pants? You know the answer. That's how you should conduct yourself with this girl, and all women.
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RE: When to cut bait?
Sounds like from my list she was a 2 date girl. Hot, but annoying.

Lotsa guys go for "clean up bangs" I honestly don't believe in that. I think you confidence is kept better by just blocking these girls and forgetting they exist.

Hot Yes Girls will always be the best. Go find them. If you can't you need to fix your life which is a great and rewarding challenge in itself.

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Is she reacting to me? All pussy, no problems
03-04-2015 02:32 PM
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RE: When to cut bait?
Find out shes a virgin on the first date and you would have saved a few dates. If she doesnt put out, find out the reason.

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03-04-2015 02:40 PM
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RE: When to cut bait?
I'd agree with Travesty eject this girl and next her.

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RE: When to cut bait?
(03-04-2015 02:32 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  Sounds like from my list she was a 2 date girl. Hot, but annoying.

Lotsa guys go for "clean up bangs" I honestly don't believe in that. I think you confidence is kept better by just blocking these girls and forgetting they exist.

Hot Yes Girls will always be the best. Go find them. If you can't you need to fix your life which is a great and rewarding challenge in itself.

Honestly the girl is hot and she'd be great if she would put out. Unfortunately that issue is a deal breaker so I'm likely going to do what everyone in this thread is suggesting.

The mistake I made was allowing the fact that I just moved to a new city (so I'm creating leads from scratch at the moment) influence how much I put up with from a girl like this.
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