Post: #51

Danish media: "IF it is a terror attack", "IF the person is a muslim"..

Danish politicians: "a single madman"..

Like the "single madman" in New York, Paris, London, Madrid and boston.

Like the "single madman" who ravaged the middle east for 1400 years.

Post: #52

Just another Mossad operation!

Post: #53

Killer was gang related, born and raised in Denmark.

Was known by danish police intelligence, PET.

Was released from jail 2 weeks ago for a stabbing in a train in november 2013..

http://ekstrabladet.dk/112/afsloering-he...en/5444324

Post: #54

(02-14-2015 01:12 PM)KC4 Wrote:  This is truly messed up how every politician keeps on defendin Islam. I have several Muslim friends that keeps on mentioning how the scripture is messed up. And unlike some they are not afraid of criticising the scriptures even though they have received death treats. How come our politicians keeps bending over to islamist. The only way to reduce the threat is to openly critize it but nobody haa the balls to do it

They are not really defending Islam. They are defending the grand experiment called multiculturalism which has given every European capital a direct link with the events in the Middle East.

Post: #55

Omar El-Hussein. 22 Years old. Born and raised in Denmark.
http://ekstrabladet.dk/112/afsloering-he...en/5444324

Post: #56

Islamic State releases video purporting to show beheading of 21 Egyptians in Libya

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/1...0D20150215

Holy-Shit. That's less than 200 miles from my house.

edit: you can find the video in youtube, but it's terrible if you decide to watch.

Post: #57

(02-15-2015 04:03 PM)almohajem Wrote:  Islamic State releases video purporting to show beheading of 21 Egyptians in Libya

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/1...0D20150215

Holy-Shit. That's less than 200 miles from my house.

edit: you can find the video in youtube, but it's terrible if you decide to watch.

Just watched it. One of the most fucked up things I've ever seen.

Post: #58

(02-14-2015 10:32 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  Those Amish are at it again...

Another "Asian Youth" (as the BBC would say) attack I guess.

Even Fox News still can't say the guy was Arab or Danish or whatever - in fact they can't say anything about it from what the police reported I guess and won't even release his name (on the US site at least):

"Copenhagen police said the 22-year-old man was born in Denmark and had a criminal record, including violence and weapons offenses. They didn't release his name."

Post: #59

(02-14-2015 11:36 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  But just remember folks, gun control works.

What does this have to do with anything? Gun control is fine in Europe the way it is. The problem is a mixture of excess immigration, multiculturalism and the Islamic state/people who fund terrorism.

Post: #60

(02-15-2015 01:36 PM)makaveli Wrote:  Killer was gang related, born and raised in Denmark.

Was known by danish police intelligence, PET.

Was released from jail 2 weeks ago for a stabbing in a train in november 2013..

http://ekstrabladet.dk/112/afsloering-he...en/5444324

The assholes in the France murders also had records, had been in jail, and were released.

I read a headline "Attacks start debate on Islam" Well, that's fine but you could start pretty easily by not letting guys with ADW (Assault with a Deadly Weapon) out in two years!! I've seen more rap sheets with ADWs that got these short sentences and even after years working in the system it never ceased to amaze me. 6 arrests, last one for an armed robbery and the guy got out in 1-2 years??!! ( This is a hypothetical case like many I've seen, not the particular case in Denmark) .

As someone who was working in the criminal justice system and looked at hundreds of rap sheets, this is the clearest failure point in both these cases. I've left the field, because no one will do the police state stuff needed to start locking up really fucked up kids when they're 16 or 17 for 30 years, and the cost savings needed to closely supervise assholes, with innovations like house arrest with bracelets you CANNOT CUT OFF are not here or not politically viable yet. People bitch about California being a police state, but I've seen the guys with long sentences and most aren't simply non-violent drug-dealers, they are major assholes and it's good they're in jail. They rape, carjack, set people's houses on fire, and mug people.

I've wondered for years in dozens of cases how people with a sequence of violent offenses , not just multiple offenses in one day or week, but an armed robbery in '94, illegal possession of a gun (with a felony record) in '98 ; commit a THIRD and MORE violent acts and get less than 3-5 years.

With really bad guys, that stuff happens BEFORE they're 20 or 22!

Then I finally see them in prison, with a long sentence, at maybe 24 for their first murder-- FINALLY now with a long sentence.

These broken characters are now identifying with "Islam" when they run around doing their mindless shit.

By FAR your best predictor is these incidents seems "prior history of violence." There's millions of Muslims in France and Denmark, many of whom have no violent history at all and are full citizens, there is no legal method to deport them and it would take years to do it, whereas the obvious warnings in individual cases are available now, as well as changes to immigration policy which CAN be done soon.

When you let someone into a first world country you are letting them into a relative paradise of freedom and trust compared to a shithole like Iraq or Egypt. That's why you are not there-- they suck. It should be REALLY FUCKING HARD TO get into countries where people spent CENTURIES establishing a system where the cops have limited power and and you actually have to be guilty to get put in prison.

The first thing they should do is start with 5-20 year sentences for second violent acts., Yes, that includes the 17 year old who stabs someone, including the ethnically Danish kid--there are ethnically Danish psychopaths as well. Cost savings ideas, like strict house arrest if they just get in fistfights, with electronic bracelets etc so you know when they are really recalcictrant would help.

If this guy had been under house arrest and hacked off his bracelet, at least there would have been an alert on him. With facial recognition cameras he might have been spotted. You see, it's not so easy, everyone screams "get tough" , except when it's THEIR kid--many of you probably got in fistfights when you were kids right,? And you weren't psychopaths, you were just "kids" so there should be an EXCEPTION for you right? That's what all these guys' lawyers say about them.

If you scream "police state" you'd be right, maybe you prefer the outcome we're getting now? It's why I got out of the criminal justice field, you can't do what's necessary to solve the problem because of politics. There is some balance, you can't execute every 13 year old who shoplifts something, but a 20 year old with three assaults should not be getting probation.

You'd have to "track" the characters headed this way by early history of school violence at 10, 12 years old to really prevent it, put them in restricted environments with close supervision, but people here and everywhere would be screaming "police state" were anyone to do what's necessary to stop this. You'd have to have "camps" for kids who can't stop getting in fights,starting at like age 10 and everyone screams "They're just kids."

I've seen all this from the inside and honestly I don't see a solution. No one will rein in the fucked up kids early enough so they don't have the chance to really wreak havoc, the willingness to use the spoon-to-be-available technology isn't there and genocide isn't a solution either.

Post: #61

Only way to describe it...

Post: #62

"This emerging terrorist pattern of — Let’s go try to kill some people in the media and then go try to kill some Jews — is likely to increasingly get on the nerves of Jews in the media, which could have consequences."

http://www.unz.com/isteve/copenhagen-shootings/

Post: #63

(02-15-2015 09:37 AM)Feisbook Control Wrote:  +1 for the person who can find the mainstream news article/report that is quickest to blame Danes for this.

What do you think, twelve hours from attack to blaming Danes? Or maybe 24 hours?

This is a paper claimed to be blaming the free speech cartoonist, Lars Vilk, the very next morning of the attack. I can't verify because I don't speak Dutch, but I had to provide this for the sake of exposing the constant insanity.    

Post: #64

(02-15-2015 09:08 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  

(02-15-2015 09:37 AM)Feisbook Control Wrote:  +1 for the person who can find the mainstream news article/report that is quickest to blame Danes for this.

What do you think, twelve hours from attack to blaming Danes? Or maybe 24 hours?

This is a paper claimed to be blaming the free speech cartoonist, Lars Vilk, the very next morning of the attack. I can't verify because I don't speak Dutch, but I had to provide this for the sake of exposing the constant insanity.

I think that's Swedish.

Post: #65

I know neither language(or any Nordic language for that matter).

The important thing is that we may now know that Scandinavian mainstream media has no limit on self-flagellation.

Post: #66

(02-15-2015 04:37 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(02-15-2015 02:16 AM)TonySandos Wrote:  

(02-14-2015 07:29 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  For perspective, this would be a quiet day in Baghdad, Kandahar or Damascus over the last five - ten years.

Shia Muslims in Iraq are the victims of murderous bombings by Salafi/Wahabi extremists every day.

The extremism is funded and spread mostly by Saudi Arabia, with the Kuwaitis, Qataris, and Emiratis chipping in. They fund the extremist mosques and imams, worldwide.

We really did invade the wrong Arab country after 9/11.

You know damn well that was never a possibility, no matter how directly involved it could have been. If the US attacked Saudi Arabia, this would be the one true instance of seeing the entire Muslim world, from Indonesia/the Philippines to Dagestan, rise up in unison to fight the "crusader army" with a zeal like we've yet to see.

I'm saying that no non Islamic nation(and possibly other Islamic nations) could attack the home of Mecca and Medina without expecting widespread, savage warfare.

We could have stayed away from Mecca/Medina, just invaded the east coast, Dhahran, Riyadh, deposed the Al-Sauds, put the Hashemites back in charge. Do it mostly as an unconventional warfare campaign with whatever Bedouin we could get from the deserts and the Jordanians. Heck, we could have got Saddam to help us.

It might have turned out better than this slow-motion crusade Bush started.

My own idea for after 9/11 would have been more Michael Corleone-style: just a campaign of relentless raids, financial disruption and assassination against Al Qaeda and its financiers. If a few Saudi and Emirati princes got dead because they paid money to Bin Laden, good.

Why would we invade a nation over what a couple of it's civilians did? Unless there's proof that they were backed by the government or the house of Saud was sheltering them. The Saudis and Al Queda are sworn enemies. One of Bin Laden's goals was to topple the Saudi royal family.

Post: #67

(02-15-2015 10:12 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(02-14-2015 11:12 PM)GeroMeroHero Wrote:  Half of Danes support limiting Muslim immigration, the Danish gov has tried paying immigrants to leave, and the Danish People's Party (aptly named) had already been topping polls.

The only country which seems to be ignorant of the threat of Islam is Britain. Even Sweden's anti-immigrant party enjoy 20% support. Whereas UKIP is 'racist' for wanting a points system and opening the pool to all countries.

Don't buy into the rhetoric spouted by the MSM, liberal elites and their bloggers.

Business likes cheap migrant labour. UKIP will make that harder. Labour enjoys massive migrant support due to its policies, UKIP will make this harder.

Tories don't know what to do about UKIP and are in a difficult position because of the goldfish mentality the UK population has.

Believe me when I say this, only the people with a clue want UKIP and they're outnumbered. He who shouts loudest and most often wins the debate.

Oh I would vote UKIP. I would vote for all of those parties really. Even the ones with economic policy I disagree with (since, like in the case of the National Front, neither of the other two have good policies).
Labour wants cheap nannies, Tories want cheap labor for business interests. Both support multiculturalism a lot, not even just tokenly. This is probably to convince themselves they actually have respect for guests in their country, but they really don't. They don't even respect the native population.
UKIP wants Labour to win so they can screw things up even more and galvanize the country into voting for real change. Which shows real belief. And belief can make all the difference.

But, what is the rhetoric spouted by the MSM? I never thought UKIP was racist.

Post: #68

People need to start asking themselves, What would the Romans do?

Post: #69

(02-16-2015 02:18 AM)Pride male Wrote:  People need to start asking themselves, What would the Romans do?

Raze the cities and salt the Earth?

Post: #70

(02-15-2015 05:38 PM)Luisaceo Wrote:  

(02-14-2015 11:36 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  But just remember folks, gun control works.

What does this have to do with anything? Gun control is fine in Europe the way it is. The problem is a mixture of excess immigration, multiculturalism and the Islamic state/people who fund terrorism.

Step 1. Observe that the recent attacks happened in countries where guns are banned.
Step 2. Observe that the attacks used assault rifles.
Step 3. Contemplate how well the gun control laws 'controlled guns', and whether the perpetrators or the victims were 'more controlled in their use of guns'.
Step 4. Say 'aahhhh! I get it now, actually it's all just Leftist bullshit'

Post: #71

(02-16-2015 03:18 AM)GeroMeroHero Wrote:  

(02-16-2015 02:18 AM)Pride male Wrote:  People need to start asking themselves, What would the Romans do?

Raze the cities and salt the Earth?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_C...c._149_BC)

Post: #72

(02-16-2015 01:14 AM)GeroMeroHero Wrote:  UKIP wants Labour to win so they can screw things up even more and galvanize the country into voting for real change. Which shows real belief. And belief can make all the difference.

But, what is the rhetoric spouted by the MSM? I never thought UKIP was racist.

What a coincidence. That's the same reason I'm inclined to hope that Hillary Clinton is the prime democrat contender in the next election.

Over here in the US, the little of what's said about it, UKIP is painted as a racist party. I asked an English girl I keep in contact with(Bangladeshi background) what UKIP was about. Her verdict was that they're crazy and indeed bigots.

Seeing reasonable people surprised to hear such accusations makes me believe it's a farce.


Oh and BREAKING NEWS. COMPLETELY UNEXPECTED DEVELOPEMENTS!!!

-The Denmark cafe shooters weren't working alone. I know this is alarming for many of us to hear.

Post: #73

(02-16-2015 03:22 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(02-15-2015 05:38 PM)Luisaceo Wrote:  

(02-14-2015 11:36 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  But just remember folks, gun control works.

What does this have to do with anything? Gun control is fine in Europe the way it is. The problem is a mixture of excess immigration, multiculturalism and the Islamic state/people who fund terrorism.

Step 1. Observe that the recent attacks happened in countries where guns are banned.
Step 2. Observe that the attacks used assault rifles.
Step 3. Contemplate how well the gun control laws 'controlled guns', and whether the perpetrators or the victims were 'more controlled in their use of guns'.
Step 4. Say 'aahhhh! I get it now, actually it's all just Leftist bullshit'

Since when does Gun control=banning guns? In both France and Denmark, it doesn't seem that difficult to get a gun liscence provided you don't have a criminal record and you're mentally healthy:

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/france

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/denmark

Even this pro gun ownership article seems to support this:

Quote:The Sydney School of Public Health’s GunPolicy.Org lists Denmark’s gun regulations as “restrictive. (...) Part of getting that license includes justifying your need for firearm, and that is followed by stringent criminal background and mental health checks, among other things.

Europe is still safer than the US and the two terrorist attacks don't justify the need for more guns among civilians. Instead of thinking about dealing with the problem at it's end (i.e when the terrorist is already armed) it's better to deal with the problem at it's root: the radicalisation of muslims and the groups that finance the training and arming of such radicals.

Anyways, the annual number of Europeans killed by terrorist attacks is lower than the number of Americans killed each year by gun accidents. According to wikipedia:

Quote: Over 120 children 15 years old or younger were killed in gun accidents in 1998.

Post: #74

(02-16-2015 03:24 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

(02-16-2015 03:18 AM)GeroMeroHero Wrote:  

(02-16-2015 02:18 AM)Pride male Wrote:  People need to start asking themselves, What would the Romans do?

Raze the cities and salt the Earth?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_C...c._149_BC)

The three years siege/destruction of Carthage sounds truly horrific, 400,000 killed, (only 90,000 were military) and the 50,000 survivors sold into slavery.

The victorious Roman general cried and foresaw that Rome's own empire would end one day.

Does not sound like a optimal outcome.

Post: #75

(02-16-2015 08:05 AM)Luisaceo Wrote:  Anyways, the annual number of Europeans killed by terrorist attacks is lower than the number of Americans killed each year by gun accidents.

Well, we just feeeeeeel better with more guns around. We're Americans. I'm a pinko liberal, but there's no way to reverse the USA's love affair with guns.

It just functions as a distractor issue for more important economic/concentration of wealth issues, so the rich can keep raping the other 99.9, so I feel it's just better to let everyone buy as many as they want. Hey, I want a .50 cal sniper rifle!!!

I particularly like the idea of giving everyone who goes on a ferris wheel ride a fully automatic weapon with a loaded magazine. Now THAT would be some fun!!!