Post: #51

^Your last paragraph pretty much summed up what I said.

Roosh also wrote about two guys from the same country going to another country, one guy completely flops and the other guy kills it. Even though they have a similar look, I believe he used Spanish guys as an example going to Poland.

There could be other reasons why someone does well in a foreign country.

The big factor is how long you can spend in Czech or Poland or wherever you choose. I have been to certain countries in Europe and women just came up to me and asked me how long I am in town, no other question.

i am sure Poland is still good, but I have heard of people complaining that the attitude is changing quickly. Westernization spreading like a virus.

Post: #52

Yes, there are so many factors at play here that for one man one city in PL may be his paradise while for another it may be Zagreb or whatever. And it's not just a case of how the girls react, it's also about how comfortable you feel in the new environment, whether infrastructure you depend on is good, ad infinitum. So many factors.

I've read recently the repost of TD's "Secret Society" and now about the "Busted Dudes" post by Roosh, and it's almost as if they are treated as gospel, without any attention paid to the context and limitations of these various theories. TD for example at the time was an edgy coked up wide-eyed PUA going out 5-6 nights a week in Hollywood dressed in fluffy hats, so the world he based that article on was the LA club scene and the type of girl who would fuck a man wearing a fluffy hat or a man who just had some spare coke. The article made a valid point about non-judgmental attitudes etc. but people take it way too literally, as if there is some secret conspiracy consciously plotted by all women plus exactly 2% of men. There isn't.

Roosh's "Busted Dudes" post was a suggestion for one quick way (of many, you would hope) to possibly predict your likelihood of success in a certain country. But as we have discussed it's only a quick test. Ultimately how well you actually do boils down to:

1. everything about the place, including how favorable the SMP is (quality & quantity of girls available with reasonable time/effort)
2. everything about you
3. how long you are staying for

Roosh's BDT is one quick indicator of (1), but (2) and (3) are missing.

I added the length of stay because I definitely agree with you on this one. I've been in places where I was only there a few days, and it was just impossible to get the time to meet a girl and bang. And that's just on locals. If you're both just passing through either you both agree to do it right there and then (in train toilet, in an alley) or you're not getting any. Attraction doesn't matter, it fades quick as the next shiny thing on her trip appears. I've never got a bang when we are both in the city for 1-3 days, just impossible. So that leaves you with locals mostly, and you have to stay at least a couple weeks, realistically 1-2 months for dating, where the best quality girls are found. I think that's the best answer OP can hope for. We can try and predict how we're going to do on paper as best we can, but then it's just a matter of choosing location and sticking it out.

TLDR, in response to the OP's title, yes the UK is very likely the worst SMP in the EU, so GTFO. I suggest changing your username to "Pussy Refugee"

Post: #53

(02-12-2015 05:18 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(02-12-2015 04:29 PM)Luisaceo Wrote:  Just saw this picture on fb of a random Polish girl and her bf... I think this perfectly illustrates the typical busted guy with cute gf in Poland. It's not the norm but it is somehwat common compared to the UK or Spain for example (specially since these skin head looking guys don't take care of themselves and would do badly anywhere else).

I don't see what's so terrible looking about that Polish dude. He looks about average to me. That Polish girl is about a 6 tops to me. Without the long hair and makeup she'd be a 5.

I think they are about even or the guy is slightly dating up. The girl isn't that great and the guy is normal looking.