Post: #1

I've been picking up chicks in clubs for a long time. I enjoy partying and I enjoy the atmosphere. I usually average 4-8 chicks a month doing club pick-up game. I drink more than I should. I live in Denver. I typically roll with my friends who are former military also because we party and get along great. Well I met this group of guys who are into the PUA stuff on the internet. I have no clue what theory they follow. They aren't the best looking guys, they dress strange, talk to other dudes at clubs. and they're always giggling, jumping around and shit but they are genuinely good guys and come across as potential good friends.

Last night, one of the guys came up and asked if he could walk around with me and be my wingmen. What I do in clubs doesn't usually involve needing a wingman but I let him tag along with me outside while I was smoking a cigar. I was leaving the club last night with a chick and he sent me a message when we were getting in the taxi, asking if I could teach him some stuff tonight. I'm honestly not a good teacher and don't have the time explain what I do. The dudes I roll with are always cracking jokes about the guys and don't want to hang with them but I really like the guys and I want to help them. I thought maybe I would tell you all what I do and you can point me to some of the PUA guys that are similar and I can just tell them that I follow those guys theory and they should too. I tried looking on youtube but I don't have time to watch a 30 minute lecture in front of chalk board and some of that stuff looks fake and awkward.

This is what I do:

If I like a girl and she is showing me some tits, I walk up to her and tell he that she is sexy. If she is dressing conservative, I tell her she is hot and she is my type. I then ask her what she is doing for Valentines day. If she says nothing, I give her my phone and tell her to type in her number so we can go out on Valentines. I call her right away so she has my number. I ask her what she is doing in a few hours when the club closes. If I sense that she isn't down to fuck that night, I file her into the Sunday thru Wednesday fuck category since I already have her number and I split. If she is down to fuck, I get her out of the club or I tell her that I'll text her when the club closes and I'll giver her a ride home, take a cab together, or whatever. It really depends on if I want leave early or party more with my friends. I never spend more than 15-20 minutes with one girl unless it's around 1am or so

I focus on getting as many numbers as I can, in the shortest amount of time, without the women I have numbers from seeing this, and after two or three numbers I hit another club next door with new women. I have about 10 clubs I can go to in walking distance. I do this until I find a chick who is down to fuck. I must talk about 30 - 40 women every night and I get a lot of numbers, but not sure how many to be honest. If I am really drunk, I'll take a picture of her so I can remember what she looks like and these usually works well on kissing them for the picture. Usually around 2 am, I have multiple text asking me where I am and what I'm doing. I never have whiskey dick because I always carry two Viagra in my pocket. That's really all I know how to explain what I do. I'm trying to express to these guys that what you say isn't important, it's all about letting her know what you want, the tone you have when you say it, and doing as proactive as possible between 10:30- 1:30 until you find someone who is down to fuck.

Anyone know of any people on the Internet that are like this that I can point these guys to? I know this type of game isn't for everyone but these guys are never gonna get laid dressing like this or doing the things they do. I'll meet them in 3 hours so any help on where to point them is appreciated. It would also be good if the guys teaching the stuff didn't look like they just got done playing dungeons and dragons and watching star trek.

thanks guys

Post: #2

Bring them to the forum, we'll sort them out.

Post: #3

Do you use that valentines line year round or just at the moment?

From reading your posts and PMing with you man its easy to tell you have super direct natural game. It will be hard for you to teach guys consciously because you game unconsciously. Probably best to dress them sharper, get them to the gym and try keep them around to learn by osmosis.

Post: #4

(01-31-2015 08:51 PM)Atlantic Wrote:  Do you use that valentines line year round or just at the moment?

From reading your posts and PMing with you man its easy to tell you have super direct natural game. It will be hard for you to teach guys consciously because you game unconsciously. Probably best to dress them sharper, get them to the gym and try keep them around to learn by osmosis.

No, I just use it now since Valentines is coming up. I agree about the gym thing completely.

Post: #5

Your game won't work for these guys.

Your game works for in shape lifter guys with strong frame and no care towards rejection.

They are better off doing daygame until they get their clothes and physiques sorted out.

Nice on carrying the Viagra, I've got some Cialis pills cut in half in a drawer if I think I'll get whiskey dick...

Best thing you can do other than gym and clothes advice is point out their poor posture, body language, giggling etc...

Make them watch some old Connery Bond movies or Steve McQueen and tell them to think when they are standing in a bar or talking to a chick they should do what they think these characters would do...

Post: #6

Quote:If I am really drunk, I'll take a picture of her so I can remember what she looks like and these usually works well on kissing them for the picture.

How do you frame this? Can this be framed to kiss them on the mouth?

Post: #7

^ If you are good looking and built being drunk can be a huge advantage girls will let you get away with much more by giving you a caveman drunk pass.

The intellectual sober type can't get away with groping a girl's ass in the first 2 minutes...

Post: #8

(01-31-2015 09:20 PM)Cheetah Wrote:  

Quote:If I am really drunk, I'll take a picture of her so I can remember what she looks like and these usually works well on kissing them for the picture.

How do you frame this? Can this be framed to kiss them on the mouth?

I don't really have a set phrase. I just hold the phone out in front and say here, give me a kiss or my bro says give him a kiss that won't let him forget you, If they don't kiss, I will usually keep kissing them on each cheek and get closer to their mouth until the give in. I learned a lot of it from watching the nightclub scene in Brazil. It took me a while to learn that chicks at clubs aren't there to ponder life and find some sort of esoteric meaning in existence. They are there to dress slutty and be stupid and they are gonna go for the guy who allows them to do that. Being drunk does have an advantage for sure. I even recommend acting drunk when your not and seeing what you can get away with.

A few nights ago I saw one of these Jewish kids with one of those hair things on his head, he wasn't good looking and must have been around 1.50m tall or so, He was trying to make out with this blonde who was smoking hot. She was turning him down left and right and everyone was laughing at him. Two hours later I saw him in the corner kissing the same girl with his hand on her ass and she was grinding him. The kid had balls and he got his wish while everyone around him doubted that he had a chance. It's all about persistence.

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Post: #10

This is an easy one.

Tell them that you're running Gunwitch Method (your method is almost word for word what he recommends).

If they learn GWM
- better target selection
- no more approach anxiety
- better sexual escalation
- deal with rejection much better.

Once they learn GWM, running Mystery Method/Indirect becomes much easier. (Indirect is useful in a lot more situations, but Direct is far more efficient at getting sex)

Indirect game tends to hurt new guys because they get a model of the world w/o context.

GWM and every form of direct game taps into a man's primal urges, and he finds a chick on the same wavelength.

But to go direct, when you've been hiding from girls all your life is like being tossed out of your warm and comfy bed into backyard pool in the early morning. You're gonna be shaking for longer than you think you should before you acclimatize.

Good stuff.

WIA

Post: #11

Thanks dude. I'll let them know.

Post: #12

Linux,

I lived in CO for 5 years about 6 months of that in Denver.

Do you have PTSD after coming back from Colombia? I was a torn up visiting back there chick-wise for a wedding coming from SoCal.

I don't know how you stay there man if you pull 7+ there consistently there hats off those chicks are rare.

Denver chicks are laidback and fun, but quality is busted. Lots of fun 6's that don't wear makeup drink beer, smoke weed, and will snowboard with you.

Post: #13

there is a youtube video that explains precisely what you do named.. "quadruple your women without quadrupling your game". This is like THE gameplan for the night.

ps. i dig that valentine's day line. it doesn't matter when that day actually is. it matters that it implies romance. that's the point. it's like saying "i want you to be my Christmas present" in summer. it's fine

Post: #14

Dude you just gave me an awesome epiphany, I've been doing mostly day game for about 1 year. Night game intimidated me a little bit, I've tried it but not consistently. I haven't seen it explained in such a logical way. Your night game sounds pretty cool, I always thought that you had to do more for night game and be like an RSD guy or something.

I'll definitely read up on the Gunwitch Method. Thanks WIA

Post: #15

You go to 10 different clubs ?? How much money are you spending per night on cover alone?

Post: #16

(01-31-2015 11:35 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  Linux,

I lived in CO for 5 years about 6 months of that in Denver.

Do you have PTSD after coming back from Colombia? I was a torn up visiting back there chick-wise for a wedding coming from SoCal.

I don't know how you stay there man if you pull 7+ there consistently there hats off those chicks are rare.

Denver chicks are laidback and fun, but quality is busted. Lots of fun 6's that don't wear makeup drink beer, smoke weed, and will snowboard with you.

Yeah. I've been depressed ever since I've returned. They women here are very easy but they bore me and never bring anything new that I haven't already experienced. I do miss Colombia and Brazil. I want to go back in may.

Post: #17

(02-01-2015 05:49 AM)Agreddor Wrote:  You go to 10 different clubs ?? How much money are you spending per night on cover alone?

It's denver bro. Most clubs are free or cost three bucks or so.

Post: #18

(02-01-2015 02:24 AM)XXL Wrote:  there is a youtube video that explains precisely what you do named.. "quadruple your women without quadrupling your game". This is like THE gameplan for the night.

ps. i dig that valentine's day line. it doesn't matter when that day actually is. it matters that it implies romance. that's the point. it's like saying "i want you to be my Christmas present" in summer. it's fine

I'll text the guy the video tomorrow. Thank you xxl

Post: #19

Ah. That explains it

Post: #20

The Denver PUA/ Denver Lair scene sounds like it has degenerated a bit. Back when I was in it and lived in Colorado (2008-2011) it was decent, we had some good Alpha leaders with good fashion, masculinity, and natural (seeming) charisma to set an example. But even within the span I was active a lot of people came and went. I don't know if any of the OG's are still there.

I did notice a bad habit of "chode-clustering" even back in the day among some members. It'd be cool of you to help them out.

Post: #21

I just read up on the Gunwitch method, its pretty fucking good. For its time it sounds revolutionary and even now in 2015, its relevant, I took a lot of pointers from it.

The guys history is a bit stained from shooting a girl in the face but it was in self defense from an ice junkie, prophetic name

edit- It does sound a bit advanced/intermediate but I think it should be mixed into a newbs repertoire, just for practice and variety

Post: #22

(02-01-2015 07:09 AM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:  I just read up on the Gunwitch method, its pretty fucking good. For its time it sounds revolutionary and even now in 2015, its relevant, I took a lot of pointers from it.

The guys history is a bit stained from shooting a girl in the face but it was in self defense from an ice junkie, prophetic name

edit- It does sound a bit advanced/intermediate but I think it should be mixed into a newbs repertoire, just for practice and variety

For guys doing PUA it's probably the best bridge to what Linux is doing.

Linux dropped the science of direct no nonsense game better than I could above

"I'm trying to express to these guys that what you say isn't important, it's all about letting her know what you want, the tone you have when you say it, and doing as proactive as possible between 10:30- 1:30 until you find someone who is down to fuck."

The fact that his handle is Linux I also find amusing in this context. Guys are on some roundabout MS Windows, when Linux is the stable and rock solid alternative.

+1 from me

WIA

Post: #23

^ It's really the Jersey Shore method which works for the right guy.

Go around jacked up, drunk, telling girls they are sexy and wondering if they are DTF in the back of your head constantly.

There is no building a connection, as club night life in 2015 isn't really conducive to that anyways.

Post: #24

Good thread. I'd forgotten all about Gunwitch. I used to try to do something like this when I had the big revelation and was figuring out daygame on 16th St Mall in Denver.

Place to start on here: /thread-20010-...#pid356563

Also, from the horse's mouth: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=46286



Can't wait for better weather. Want to try this again.