^ The average American woman over aged 20 is 170llbs at 5 feet 3.

I would rather bench that on the incline in the gym.

Doesn't mampi territory start at 200. lol

(09-20-2018 05:20 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 07:04 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Fucking a tall girl is like wrestling. It's deeply fun and one hell of a time. Don't tell me you didn't enjoy that part atleast.

I more enjoy lifting up a petit chick, holding up in the air while I am standing and having sex with her.

The surprise look on her face is priceless.

I wouldn't try that with a tall chick, my back might give out.

Bruv, just because she's tall doesn't mean she could be a mampi. She could be tall and thin like a Romanian model hehehehe
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120-130 pound paper thin 5'10" ice queens.



Mmmmmmmmmmm. The stuff dreams are made of. I'm pretty sure you can find girls like that in Africa too I imagine.

He doesn’t impress me in the slightest. I think there’s a fine line between sounding educated and just down right sounding lame. He comes off ass lame and try hard. God bless the brother, but I wouldn’t want to hang out with him on the surface. I also thing like most RSD’ers he peppers a bit of real in field footage with a whole lot of frauding infield coverage

Not sure if your trolling/joking about girls covering skin

I've never seen anything like this and I'm a guy who relies heavily on girls showing signs of interest before I make a move.

My point is I'm kind of an expert at all the subtle ways girls show interest and I don't ever remember seeing anything like what you just mentioned with covering skin.

How old are you and how old where the chicks who had this type of reaction in your presence?

I’m 27. 180cm . Dark skin. Ripped.

Women 25 and over.

I see it most of the time.....

I've met Madison.
- Canadian
- not black American
- his use of race within his game is very "foreign"
- global idea of race.
- his game is good PUA, not flashy
- he has the "sense" Goldmund had the sense too.

From a African, Caribbean, Black American perspective living stateside, Madison is the cool black guy that joins the white boy fraternity and it never occurs to him that it might be a bad idea. Ross optimism serves him well.

The famous infield he has where he pulls an actual club glam girl, not one of these random smiley white chicks, is a real good sense of his game.

So he steps to a chick and her friend waiting on a cab. I forget the city, but these are the quintessential tall,, high heeled, long hair, white club bitches.

He goes in neutral, and the main chick is not having it. He sort of accuses her of racism and not liking black guys, and she basically calls his bluff. I don't think she's a fire breathing racist, but she says that he's playing the race card. I don't know if he was doing it on purpose, but he manages to turn it around, and get in the car with both of them. If this was faked, they need to give their casting director a bonus, cause most turbo hotties aren't this good.

For RSD infield, getting in the car counts as a pull.

The race thing, how he got her HOT, showed me his Canadianness. An American black dude that's good with this level of white girl doesn't ever use race like that. It was cringe. But he stayed on the chick and turned her around.

He also had this other infield with an Asian chick - and she basically gives him nothing (verbally) over the course of an hour. He pulls her in a cab for his place. You can see her body language change up. I asked him like why he stayed on this chick, and he was like, he knew.

A hallmark of good game is bagging the disinterested, the boring girl, the girl giving you zero feedback other than no negative feedback. If she is around, she wants to fuck. That's it. That goes deep into your inner game.

Cause I can make a bitch laugh, think, cry, get mad. If the chick is just kinda there, I pull out cause it starts to be like pulling teeth after a while. But I know that most people aren't robots, and girls really open up after you fuck them.

Am I screening out potential baby mamas? Lol

Back to Madison.

I would not have found myself in scenario 1. And I would not have seen scenario 2.

AMS doesn't do conversion.
Wayne is fake.
Locario comes off as a scammer.
Disruptive Male and Andrew Roger Currie are very middle class barbershop.
Beige Philip is slick.
Patrice is the god, but I can't see him dealing with these pseudo celebs.

Madison is probably the only coach that runs a good VIP style game. He could pretty much go into any kind of club and pull the Taylor Swift types.

The fact that he likes that skinny white girl look and has molded his game to that... Tyler, like most white guys, was saying that Madison's taste in white girls was boring. But Madison was going for chicks that would have been cheerleaders in high school and sorority chicks in college, the most basic of all basic bitches. Pumpkin spice latte bitches.

That's a skill.

Most white chicks aren't 100% Uggs and iPhones. Not the ones I meet.

I like dude, but his game is for a general (I.e white)-audience. If you were a black guy from the suburbs (66% of black dudes) Madison's game screams white boy. Madison, through no fault of his own, has an Obama like outlook.

The rest of black dudes that are hood (33%) would look at RSD as novel - but couldn't pull a Taylor Swift the way Madison does. They'd have to use a normal strategy.

He's an interesting case.

WIA

(09-20-2018 12:42 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  any thoughts on RSD Madison?

He seems to do pretty well for a guy who facially is at best mediocre and probably ugly by most standards.

He is actually an example of why i think its easier for black guys to get laid then any other race.

I dont think a white guy with a similarly mediocre/ugly face could fuck as many girls as madison seems to be pulling.

But being black comes with built in sexuality which is why most of the short and/or ugly guys i see with decent chicks are usually black guys.

I guess its also possible Madison looks much better in person then he does on camera

He doesn’t impress me in the slightest. I think there’s a fine line between sounding educated and just down right sounding lame. He comes off ass lame and try hard. God bless the brother, but I wouldn’t want to hang out with him from what i see on the surface. Him and I are just on two different tiers with respect to women. I also think like most RSD’ers he peppers a bit of real in field footage with a whole lot of frauding infield coverage

(09-21-2018 08:15 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  I've met Madison.
- Canadian
- not black American
- his use of race within his game is very "foreign"
- global idea of race.
- his game is good PUA, not flashy
- he has the "sense" Goldmund had the sense too.

From a African, Caribbean, Black American perspective living stateside, Madison is the cool black guy that joins the white boy fraternity and it never occurs to him that it might be a bad idea. Ross optimism serves him well.

The famous infield he has where he pulls an actual club glam girl, not one of these random smiley white chicks, is a real good sense of his game.

So he steps to a chick and her friend waiting on a cab. I forget the city, but these are the quintessential tall,, high heeled, long hair, white club bitches.

He goes in neutral, and the main chick is not having it. He sort of accuses her of racism and not liking black guys, and she basically calls his bluff. I don't think she's a fire breathing racist, but she says that he's playing the race card. I don't know if he was doing it on purpose, but he manages to turn it around, and get in the car with both of them. If this was faked, they need to give their casting director a bonus, cause most turbo hotties aren't this good.

For RSD infield, getting in the car counts as a pull.

The race thing, how he got her HOT, showed me his Canadianness. An American black dude that's good with this level of white girl doesn't ever use race like that. It was cringe. But he stayed on the chick and turned her around.

He also had this other infield with an Asian chick - and she basically gives him nothing (verbally) over the course of an hour. He pulls her in a cab for his place. You can see her body language change up. I asked him like why he stayed on this chick, and he was like, he knew.

A hallmark of good game is bagging the disinterested, the boring girl, the girl giving you zero feedback other than no negative feedback. If she is around, she wants to fuck. That's it. That goes deep into your inner game.

Cause I can make a bitch laugh, think, cry, get mad. If the chick is just kinda there, I pull out cause it starts to be like pulling teeth after a while. But I know that most people aren't robots, and girls really open up after you fuck them.

Am I screening out potential baby mamas? Lol

Back to Madison.

I would not have found myself in scenario 1. And I would not have seen scenario 2.

AMS doesn't do conversion.
Wayne is fake.
Locario comes off as a scammer.
Disruptive Male and Andrew Roger Currie are very middle class barbershop.
Beige Philip is slick.
Patrice is the god, but I can't see him dealing with these pseudo celebs.

Madison is probably the only coach that runs a good VIP style game. He could pretty much go into any kind of club and pull the Taylor Swift types.

The fact that he likes that skinny white girl look and has molded his game to that... Tyler, like most white guys, was saying that Madison's taste in white girls was boring. But Madison was going for chicks that would have been cheerleaders in high school and sorority chicks in college, the most basic of all basic bitches. Pumpkin spice latte bitches.

That's a skill.

Most white chicks aren't 100% Uggs and iPhones. Not the ones I meet.

I like dude, but his game is for a general (I.e white)-audience. If you were a black guy from the suburbs (66% of black dudes) Madison's game screams white boy. Madison, through no fault of his own, has an Obama like outlook.

The rest of black dudes that are hood (33%) would look at RSD as novel - but couldn't pull a Taylor Swift the way Madison does. They'd have to use a normal strategy.

He's an interesting case.

WIA

I fuck with white chicks(I fuck all chicks, but white chicks especially they open their legs faster than sisters), but Madison's pulls are absolutely nothing special. Further, I don't consider merely getting a number success. Im not a true student of the game, like some of the academics on this site. I guess I'd be considered a casual observer more than anything, but I understand the defining principles. All things considered given how he looks(I don't think he's exactly a Idris or Boris Kodjoe) maybe his pulls are fucking outstanding. Maybe if I looked like him I couldn't get any snatch.

(09-19-2018 08:59 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 06:06 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  It's that time of year again my brothas.

The smell of pumpkin spice is in the air.

How will y'all be dressing this fall?

What are the new fall / winter fashions?

What are you throwing away?

Throw up some pictures and let's see what's up.

I'm currently in the process of donating a lot of junk... Time to buy some new everything and interesting is seeing some new and classic ideas.

(09-19-2018 08:59 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  Choice pieces from me:

These are great. I'm a visual person, so pictures help a lot.
I can go shopping and try to find similar gear to match up together.

I'm pretty much starting from scratch and throwing all my clothes out.

(09-20-2018 05:20 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 07:04 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Fucking a tall girl is like wrestling. It's deeply fun and one hell of a time. Don't tell me you didn't enjoy that part atleast.

I more enjoy lifting up a petit chick, holding up in the air while I am standing and having sex with her.

The surprise look on her face is priceless.

I wouldn't try that with a tall chick, my back might give out.

Bruv, just because she's tall doesn't mean she could be a mampi. She could be tall and thin like a Romanian model hehehehe
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Did this last night. new chick is about a foot shorter than me and 90 pounds lighter.
Could have tossed her like a rock across a pond.

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2...e.html?m=1

Good game lessons if you can read between the lines. Speaks on how the words we say (and don't say) reveal the truth of our motivations.

The dude is an expert "statement analyst". Women are intermediate statement analysts.

Anyone else streamlined their style as they've gotten older? When I was younger I would obsess over what I was wearing to a detriment.

These days I stick to a few simple and uniform styles; American Apparel raglan shirt (shows off muscles), 513 levis and vans slip-ons/onitsuka tigers; chukka boots chinos and maybe a jean button down or something. In the winter I like to wear cardigans, dark wash jeans with a v-neck. Realized that showing off muscles trumps dressing to the 9's, probably doubly if you're black.

Also realized when I would dress up I would have this expectation of how people would react to me and make me more passive almost like a female, whereas when I dressed a little down it felt more freeing as I had to rely on myself and mouthpiece.

Speaking of Black PUA's, curious what you guys think of TaySocial:

(09-21-2018 10:59 AM)the high Wrote:  Speaking of Black PUA's, curious what you guys think of TaySocial:

Seems like a cooler, more handsome version of Madison. Im sure based on his age he isn't as academic as Madison is, but Im willing to bet he does better because he's not as hampered by his looks. And yes, I believe looks absolutely matter. Be your bestself

I don't think Madison is academic, he usually comes off dumb to me actually. He's not the worst, but he's far from the sharpest.

Which pulls did you think were text book? I've seen 4, and two stood out to me as being unusual.

He did one AMOG pull that was par for the course. He stays on a chick and let's the threatened guy blow himself out.

And another outside of the club race card pull, that was also an AMOG pull. Something about how she couldn't take mixed babies back home. That sort of edge is cornball to me.

WIA

I rate Alan Sinclair's game. He has a video with TaySocial where they play basketball and approach women and his game is way better than TaySocial (I think it might have been removed though as I can't see it). He's not a game guy though and doesn't teach. I'd say he has better game than Madison as well, and can get white and black women.

(09-21-2018 12:24 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  I don't think Madison is academic, he usually comes off dumb to me actually. He's not the worst, but he's far from the sharpest.

Which pulls did you think were text book? I've seen 4, and two stood out to me as being unusual.

He did one AMOG pull that was par for the course. He stays on a chick and let's the threatened guy blow himself out.

And another outside of the club race card pull, that was also an AMOG pull. Something about how she couldn't take mixed babies back home. That sort of edge is cornball to me.

WIA

I supposed i should have used encyclopedic as opposed to academic. Madison just has a shit load of knowledge. My problem with both these dudes is they do too much high effort approaching. Im not a full on AMSer in the sense that i only approach bitches that shoot me choosing signals, but i ain't going out of my way to approach a bitch. Those days are over. Im a fucking high value 39 year old male and if the bitch isn't in my radius or is walking too fast fuck her. Unless she's truly exceptional (8.5-9) and most of these infield chicks hover around a flat 7 or the occasional 7.5. I think these PUAs need to get out of the habit of encouraging men to take these not only high risk, but high effort approaches. Im all for risk, but im staunchly opposed to high effort.

I agree ^^

Once you are aware of your value, not unlike Neo in the Matrix when he realized he was the one, you simply expend little effort, if any, chasing low value broads.

My new favorite quote

(09-21-2018 01:28 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  My problem with both these dudes is they do too much high effort approaching. Im not a full on AMSer in the sense that i only approach bitches that shoot me choosing signals, but i ain't going out of my way to approach a bitch.

These first 38 seconds is the epitome of bad game to me.





I see a guy do this and know immediately the fucker doesn't get it. The fucking hop at the end is what really drives home how cornball this dude is. But he's popular as fuck.

Madison doing a street/direct interaction with skill





To me this is the right amount of effort, the proper social awareness, etc.

Now if a cat is like 19 or some shit, and so is the girl, that high energy thing can work - but I usually don't chop game with anything but grown ass men. My experience in really talking to game with young dudes is almost always online. I'm not going to go see Migos and shit, or talk to bitches with fake asses, colored hair, and septum piercings. (When is the Blac Chyna aesthetic going to end?)

I usually see the problem with mainstream guys in terms of mindset -

This is the title of this thing -

How To Attract A 10 (and MAKE HER STAY WITH YOU FOREVER)





Make her stay with you forever. The proper mindset is damn, this chick needs to keep doing shit to keep me interested. ...

The marketer/persuader/advertiser in me sees why the headline is effective - it speaks to both a desire and a fear.

A title and the following content is just stuff I can't agree with. I actually think it's harmful to be honest.

To resurrect the dead horse and continue to beat it - RSD definitely has a core technical side - but they keep changing the packaging. Sometimes the packaging within each instructor/within the brand - is contradictory or self defeating.

What that says to me is that they don't really have a philosophy. I"m 80% through Roosh's book, and agree or disagree - he has a consistent philosophy on women and life and on his own values.

The technical side of RSD is essentially put yourself in a good mood, and then when you interact with a chick, you transfer that mood to her.

Tyler is the best at it, and he adds a tweak. He doesn't put the girl in his mood, but the mood that she wants to be in. That's subtle, and I don't think the other guys around him get why that's so powerful - but for them to do that - they'd have to really have empathy for the girl. Of the 7 balls to juggle with a chick, the two hardest are empathy with the girl and knowledge of self.

Within the paradigm of "Attract/Comfort/Seduce" - the attraction is coming through emotional transfer. So that's the hyper little kid that Tyler is, or the Life of the Party/Source of the Drama that most of them do.

This a big departure from the Mystery/Style external game. The attraction there came from being the entertainer. The routines were the thing that basically got the chick excited, because Mystery and Style weren't trying to whip themselves into an emotional tornado. Mystery in particular runs a set like he runs an audience. He doesn't react where other people react.

Being a comedian (like Style) - you can't laugh at your own jokes - you are the cause not the effect. That is part of the reason why a professional comedian is so much funnier than you and me.

The pick up scientist in me likes this stuff - cause I can go out and try it, and get different sorts of reactions on purpose. It's not luck. It's not by chance. It's I come at a chick one way, I say one thing, and I get a reaction/response that I'm expecting - a reaction that she thinks is natural.

By hook or by crook - the player just keeps setting things up that makes a girl "naturally" feel one thing or another. No different than a top salesman that brings up objections before the close, preacher giving a sermon and getting the congregation to repeat, or the girl who sends you a text "We need to talk".

I know how you behave. I know what you're going to do given a set of choices. And because I am the one picking the candidates, I control the election.

Bringing this back to Madison - and to a lesser extent Todd - Madison, despite being a Canadian/despite having different sensibilities on race because of his Canadianess - his emotional transfer isn't the super hyped up kid. He basically brings a party vibe. Where max/julien/tyler stuff looks like work - coming from a regular black dude perspective - Madison doesn't.

I could chop game all day though.

WIA

Well Mr. WIA let me ask you this.

I have a habit particularly during night game but a lot of the times doing day game of approaching chick; having a semi engaging conversation; getting her number; giving her a hug goodbye AND THEN slapping her on her ass. Not a hard slap, but a hey im running shit slap. The most negative feedback i've ever gotten might be a "hey, dont disrespect me" in a very meek voice, but absolutely no aggressive behavior. Now this is been a part of my pick up for maybe 5-6 years. It seems to have no effect one way or the other on me getting the box. Would you personally strike this little feature from your close or keep it.

Some subtle NLP anchoring, lol?

If it doesn't seem to hurt your results, don't drop it, but standard protocol is

- Same night lay for night game.

- Instadate for day game.

Mostly because a hot chick doesn't feel the same way over text. Whether the chick responds to text is more related to your overall value versus all the other stuff in her life.

I grab a number after a 3 minute chat versus Denzel.

Real value? Lingering value?

Now if I can spend 15 minutes with a chick and drop some insightful shit that has her thinking all day. That's a different way of thinking about the pull. Most guys are selling sex and fun. I sell meaning.

The PUA move is to add the chick to social media. it's a good move,.but it's a cleanup function.

WIA

(09-21-2018 10:59 AM)the high Wrote:  Speaking of Black PUA's, curious what you guys think of TaySocial:

Good find, more to consume.

But self amusement is one of those "I watch RSD videos" terms. Like I was saying about AMS, I'm wary of guys that use their IP.

WIA

Alpha Male Strategies just recently released an Ebook. Has anyone here had a chance to read it? The reviewers of the book love it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HDC...0bf9d5d95f

(09-21-2018 05:26 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  I’m 27. 180cm . Dark skin. Ripped.

Women 25 and over.

I see it most of the time.....

are you talking about white women mostly here?

also, what is your definition of ripped?

How much do you weigh?

At 180cm you are above average but not very tall so I'm even intrigued by this strange phenomenon of girls covering skin in your presence that you speak of.

Also, do (white) girls ever cold approach you in clubs? Meaning when you go clubbing, do random (white) girls ever approach you? If yes, how often does this happen to you?

(09-21-2018 08:55 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

(09-21-2018 08:15 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  I've met Madison.
- Canadian
- not black American
- his use of race within his game is very "foreign"
- global idea of race.
- his game is good PUA, not flashy
- he has the "sense" Goldmund had the sense too.

From a African, Caribbean, Black American perspective living stateside, Madison is the cool black guy that joins the white boy fraternity and it never occurs to him that it might be a bad idea. Ross optimism serves him well.

The famous infield he has where he pulls an actual club glam girl, not one of these random smiley white chicks, is a real good sense of his game.

So he steps to a chick and her friend waiting on a cab. I forget the city, but these are the quintessential tall,, high heeled, long hair, white club bitches.

He goes in neutral, and the main chick is not having it. He sort of accuses her of racism and not liking black guys, and she basically calls his bluff. I don't think she's a fire breathing racist, but she says that he's playing the race card. I don't know if he was doing it on purpose, but he manages to turn it around, and get in the car with both of them. If this was faked, they need to give their casting director a bonus, cause most turbo hotties aren't this good.

For RSD infield, getting in the car counts as a pull.

The race thing, how he got her HOT, showed me his Canadianness. An American black dude that's good with this level of white girl doesn't ever use race like that. It was cringe. But he stayed on the chick and turned her around.

He also had this other infield with an Asian chick - and she basically gives him nothing (verbally) over the course of an hour. He pulls her in a cab for his place. You can see her body language change up. I asked him like why he stayed on this chick, and he was like, he knew.

A hallmark of good game is bagging the disinterested, the boring girl, the girl giving you zero feedback other than no negative feedback. If she is around, she wants to fuck. That's it. That goes deep into your inner game.

Cause I can make a bitch laugh, think, cry, get mad. If the chick is just kinda there, I pull out cause it starts to be like pulling teeth after a while. But I know that most people aren't robots, and girls really open up after you fuck them.

Am I screening out potential baby mamas? Lol

Back to Madison.

I would not have found myself in scenario 1. And I would not have seen scenario 2.

AMS doesn't do conversion.
Wayne is fake.
Locario comes off as a scammer.
Disruptive Male and Andrew Roger Currie are very middle class barbershop.
Beige Philip is slick.
Patrice is the god, but I can't see him dealing with these pseudo celebs.

Madison is probably the only coach that runs a good VIP style game. He could pretty much go into any kind of club and pull the Taylor Swift types.

The fact that he likes that skinny white girl look and has molded his game to that... Tyler, like most white guys, was saying that Madison's taste in white girls was boring. But Madison was going for chicks that would have been cheerleaders in high school and sorority chicks in college, the most basic of all basic bitches. Pumpkin spice latte bitches.

That's a skill.

Most white chicks aren't 100% Uggs and iPhones. Not the ones I meet.

I like dude, but his game is for a general (I.e white)-audience. If you were a black guy from the suburbs (66% of black dudes) Madison's game screams white boy. Madison, through no fault of his own, has an Obama like outlook.

The rest of black dudes that are hood (33%) would look at RSD as novel - but couldn't pull a Taylor Swift the way Madison does. They'd have to use a normal strategy.

He's an interesting case.

WIA

I fuck with white chicks(I fuck all chicks, but white chicks especially they open their legs faster than sisters), but Madison's pulls are absolutely nothing special. Further, I don't consider merely getting a number success. Im not a true student of the game, like some of the academics on this site. I guess I'd be considered a casual observer more than anything, but I understand the defining principles. All things considered given how he looks(I don't think he's exactly a Idris or Boris Kodjoe) maybe his pulls are fucking outstanding. Maybe if I looked like him I couldn't get any snatch.

Yeah I'm intrigued by him because of the bold part.

For a guy with his face, I'm impressed with the few infields he has.

And it again confirms my theory that black guys have it the easiest by far when it comes to just fucking.

I dont know about long term stuff but when it comes to just sex its easiest for black guys by far i feel.

I challenge anyone reading this to post infield of a white guy with Madison's mediocre/ugly facial looks getting as much success.

No white guy of similar looks would do as well as he does; being black brings built in sexuality that overcomes bad looks and even height.

The only short guys i know who fuck a lot of (white) girls are all black guys.

Again, its hilarious to me that black guys see their race as something they need to overcome not understanding that its by far their biggest advantage.