Post: #1

one of my early ages friend...he was just average guy...i saw him in the train and he talked to her couple of hours ...then banged her.

one of my knowing person picked a holy girl on the street and talked to her and banged her in a couple of hours.


i always wondered how they get into their pants so fast......and i never found the answer.

could someone please explain that how a guy can get ANY girl he wants while the other gets nothing.?

Post: #2

he cannot get any girl he wants, you just saw his successes, you never saw his shutdowns...
Go out and put in work and you will eventually become accomplished..it's all about numbers...and working those numbers the best way you can..but if you obsess about that one solo dime that you couldn't or COULD close, you are not doing yourself any justice...

Post: #3

great reply....thnks

Post: #4

Quote:i always wondered how they get into their pants so fast.....

The only way to do this (in her pants in a couple of hours, especially with no alcohol involved and with girls that aren't complete hookers), consistently, is to be upfront about what you want sexually from her. Beating around the bush with indirect game will get you laid, but not as fast as direct game will in the situation that you are talking about. However, you will also get a lot more rejections with direct game. So, it takes balls and no fear of rejection. But in the end you will get more of those quick lays. And you'll be surprised at the number of girls that will look at you like your the type of guy they've been waiting for. Or who won't react to you initially, but then who will offer for you to come to her place at the end of the night. Many, many girls won't flinch. Many, many girls will smile when you say some direct sexual game to her. Many girls love it.

Case in point: I had some girl (a friend of a friend) a couple of months ago show some interest. When she did, I wasn't expecting it and we were in a crowded bar. I must have looked overly surprised, because I was (and she was my weakness-tall and a natural blond) and she promptly left and didn't show interest for the rest of the night (show how psychologically precarious attraction in these these women is- lose the frame even for a second and they are gone). So we're riding home in the car with my friends and I'm in the backseat with her. She's yammering on to my friends (a guy and a girl) in the front seat non-stop. Loud and continuous. I'm in the back seat just enjoying being a little drunk and not really listening to anyone. Suddenly, I feel the loss of power. Suddenly I care. I know that she's about to get dropped off and I'm about to lose a lay. Its not going to happen. So I say THE ONLY thing that will turn things around for me at that point. I say THE ONLY thing that will put the power back in my favor, and therefore spark attraction again. Remember, at this point she thinks that she has the sexual power, that I want her, was too afraid to make that clear, etc.. She thinks that Im like every other indirect nice guy out there...

So I say "You know, if we were to fuck, I would fuck you absolutely retarded..."

She doesn't respond or acknowledge much, just s slight turn of her head to indicate to me that she heard what I said. She keeps going on with her yammering to my friends. We get to her house, and she invites me up... Situation saved.

Direct gives you the power, and takes the power away from her. Sometimes its the only thing that will save a situation, especially if you didn't play it perfect from the beginning. Once the power is shifted and she thinks that you are a nice guy (imperfect indirect game / no game) then it can be your only saving grace. And its powerful. You don't need to be perfect with it. You just have to send the message that you will fuck her, aren't afraid to let her know, and don't care what her response is. And it works with quick same day lays. I GUARANTEE that your friend is using some version of direct game to get two hour lays consistently.

Post: #5

(05-04-2011 10:27 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

Quote:i always wondered how they get into their pants so fast.....

Direct gives you the power, and takes the power away from her. Sometimes its the only thing that will save a situation, especially if you didn't play it perfect from the beginning. Once the power is shifted and she thinks that you are a nice guy (imperfect indirect game / no game) then it can be your only saving grace. And its powerful. You don't need to be perfect with it. You just have to send the message that you will fuck her, aren't afraid to let her know, and don't care what her response is. And it works with quick same day lays. I GUARANTEE that your friend is using some version of direct game to get two hour lays consistently.

Hydro is absolutely right. 100 percent. Once you gain that power, you've already won whether you get the pussy or not. When you get to that point, you'll realise that a lot of women don't have anything to barter with than their punanies. Take that away from them and you realise that they have nothing more to leverage with.

Post: #6

All of what Moma and Hydro said, plus it's about being in the right place at the right time. I've got quite a few SNLs, and it's because I put myself out there by going to a lot of parties in college, and by going to the bar a lot now. If your game is refined and you say the right things to a girl that's horny enough, there's a good chance you can bang her that night.

I'm not an advocate of going up to a girl and saying, "Hey baby, wanna fuck?" but there's been some studies done that you could literally do that with some success. Can't remember where I saw that, but a couple guys tried this on around 100 girls each, and IIRC banged 2-6 each. I think the slightly better looking guy (according to them) got 6 girls, and the other got 2 or 3.

The formula is simple: Catch the girl at the right time + You're somewhat her type + Don't say anything too stupid or get Cock-blocked = SNL

Post: #7

Yeah, I think the biggest obstacle is not the girl, it's YOU. Having the balls to put yourself out there for easy rejection is not easy. Girls reward a guy with balls by sucking them dry!

Post: #8

Hydro-
Did you say it with a grin or a straight face

Post: #9

(05-04-2011 03:44 PM)kickboxer Wrote:  Hydro-
Did you say it with a grin or a straight face

Just "matter of fact" - as far as I remember. So, a straight face. I just looked at her while she was talking to the front of the car, said it loud enough to be heard, kept my gaze on her for another second or so, and then relaxed for the rest of the ride back to her place. I get very laid back when I drink, and so I highly doubt that I smiled. Especially given the dynamic that I was trying to overcome. Smiling sort of sets you up to where you expect a response from her - a smile, and acknowledgment, something - I didn't care about her response and I wasn't joking: so no smile. Although, if she had smiled at me I would have smiled back I think.

Post: #10

oh ok, smooth

i think ill use that on the next girl that goes cold on me

Post: #11

Hydro,

That's interesting, back in LA when I first moved there, I joined an acting class to expand my social circle and do something different. One of the first lessons the teacher said when interacting, is if you feel the situation is getting weak, you better kiss or punch the person you're playing off of. It's a hail mary, but even if you were rejected, it was an act of strength if you frame it right, in your case matter of factly. If you gave it a joking frame it would come off as weak since it left room to act like you were kidding. Good move.

Post: #12

Yeah, also, it might have even helped the dynamic that we were positioned next to each other in a car, both looking forward.

If I was talking to her in a bar for instance, I would have been facing toward her most likely and may not have thought to to turn. So, I would have said it and would have been still facing her, seeming like I was awaiting a response. In the car, it was natural to not look at her after. So, when you try it, say it to a woman but don't wait for her response. Just go on to another topic (although not too quickly), unless she engages you about it, or say it while standing next to her but not facing her. You want her to think that you are letting her know "the facts" but don't give a shit about her response.

Or wait for the response if you want. Really, being upfront and alpha is about doing what you want to do and saying what you want to say. I think that you probably get my meaning and where I'm going with this. The only thing that you want to avoid is her thinking that your emotional state hinges at all on how she responds. Your letting the prey know what the predator would do if given the chance.

Post: #13

(05-04-2011 06:44 AM)sir_seducer Wrote:  one of my early ages friend...he was just average guy...i saw him in the train and he talked to her couple of hours ...then banged her.

one of my knowing person picked a holy girl on the street and talked to her and banged her in a couple of hours.


i always wondered how they get into their pants so fast......and i never found the answer.

could someone please explain that how a guy can get ANY girl he wants while the other gets nothing.?

I agree with most of the comments. I'll like the add though that every dog has his day. most women like sex just as much as men...some even more. think outside of the box and come with some crazy ish she hasnt heard before.

Post: #14

(05-04-2011 04:05 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  Really, being upfront and alpha is about doing what you want to do and saying what you want to say.

Exactly, this ties into that thread where I mentioned I start talking to girls about my dick like it's no big deal. If a girl is responsive to that, or anything else that's deliberately sexually suggestive, then you know damn well she's DTF. At that point if you don't bang her it's your fault.

I will also add a common LMR thing I've heard is, "I've never done this before." or "How many girls have you done this with?" and obviously "We're moving too fast!" or "We just met each other!" I'm not sure your response matters that much, but my typical corresponding responses are, "Neither have I, this is crazy!" For the second one some variation of, "Heh, not more than I can count on one hand." To the last two, "I know, this is crazy!"

I know there's a thing about lying, and an alpha can say what he wants or whatever, but so far those lines have only failed me once, and that was because of what I followed one of them up with.

Post: #15

By far one of the best threads I've read on this forum. The idea of direct game has always appealed to me more. I suppose its carry over from my job where beating around the bush has no place. I like to blunt, upfront, and open at all times, and at work I always am, come hell or highwater, but I have trouble conveying that sense when I'm out. Hearing stories of how this could/has work(ed) is good stuff.

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Post: #16

Most of my life I have played the indirect game...duh! And thatswhy my success rate has been super low.
In fact, when I joined this site, the first thing I realized was that most of my successes were result of the direct game itself!

Definitely a useful thread...would love to hear some more anecdotes from you guys!

Post: #17

When I was younger and taking the bus around town, there was a girl in the back with a skirt who looked pretty good. I glanced back a few times and decided to get off on her stop. I did and started doing my thing with my mouth piece. We ended up getting something to eat, checking out some stores and chilling at a park. I don't remember exactly what I was saying but we started talking about sex and her fantasies. She said she wanted to fuck in a library and get slapped and choked. There just happened to be a library close by so I told her let's do this. I fucked her like a dog in a library restroom stall.


It just depends on the bitch. If the girl is giving off that sexual vibe, make a sexual comment or try to touch on her a little

Post: #18

Good one!

Post: #19

Drunk girl: "Are you guys gay?"
My friend: "Nooo..."
Drunk girl: "You sure?"
I motion with finger for her to lean in.
Me: "I'm not gay and I'll prove it."
Then I kiss her. She's on me the rest of the night. Logistics and lack of will killed the notch chance tho.