Post: #1

Out at MacDinton's in Tampa. Great place for the US if any of you come out here. Just playing flip cup in my garbage kickball clothes, and this 7 seems to be hovering around. Leather pants, boring but cute and friendly. Barely remember opening her. Seems pretty easy, though. Game for a little bit, get the typical IOIs. There's this other guy with her, says they're not together, but that he's going through some things and she needs to help him out. Whatever, game on elsewhere.

So I'm pointing out to my friend that the girl to his left, the girl to his right, and this girl are the same identical 7, when she points to where she and this guy are going. Ok, freebie. Tough to balance a girl and a dude, but he's easier than some fat cockblocking chick, so it's not long until he's buying me a drink and I'm making out with her.

The three of us bounce to another bar, and she runs into an ex and totally focuses on this new guy. It's a good 15-20 minutes, and not ok. So here's the decision time. I can take this shit, let her get away with it, and easily bang her. Or I can run dread game, get the fuck out, be a man, and be respected. I choose the latter, and on cue she texts with her apologies, which I of course ignore, then calls. I finally answer, she tells me that she "really likes me" and she wants to get together tomorrow. I decide that's enough supplication and agree. So she hooks hard, respect in tact. But I'm typing on here tonight and not having sex.

The question is, better to endure the bullshit, take the lay, and pump/dump? Or play the dread game, get the respect you deserve, but have to wait to get laid?

tldr - Better to get laid or to get the upper hand/respect and wait to get the notch?

Post: #2

Dread game is more applicable when you are actually in a relationship with a girl and making sure the power shift is on your side

Meaning whatever game you ran on her to get her hooked, was maybe a very small type of dread, but in reality you just ran simple good game by ignoring her calls and texts etc. If you arent looking to date this girl, obviously get the notch and move on.

I would meet up with her on your terms though.

Post: #3

Not dread game.

Better for your ego to bang her on your terms. I don't mean this to be a dig or an insult. Preserving your sense of self/standards is very important and has ripple effects that make you more effective. Getting what you want on your terms is better than merely getting what you want.

In absolute terms, better to bang her quickly. Once she's given up sex, you've gotten everything that's valuable in a short term and the ball is in your court as to whether you stay in contact with her. Will you call her or not? Or did you just use her? Her self esteem, self confidence, and self worth are often impacted on what the man she's does after she's been at her most vulnerable.

By controlling your giving her attention, by making yourself a challenge, by challenging her, the idea is that the psychological component of attraction is achieved. Reasonable minds differ on whether that mental part is greater than the effect your visual appearance has on her.

WIA

Post: #4

Makes sense. Seems like traditional PUA would say AMOG it at all costs, but just didn't seem right.

Post: #5

Dread game is only useful in relationship scenarios. Example of dread game:

Woman: "Honey, would you leave me for a younger woman?"
Man: "Only if you keep asking me questions like that."

Dread game outside of a relationship setting is sorta pointless. Not a good way to build tension and comfort. Only knock it down once it's there.